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are people treading lightly & treating yogg as some kind of victim here? Leave him negative trust, distrust him in your trust list & more importantly, if you are affected by this financially contact the police so he can be prosecuted & hopefully jailed. Police Nationale Police department in Rouen, France Address: 44 Bd de l'Yser, 76000 Rouen, France Closed ⋅ Opens 8:30 AM Phone: +33 2 35 07 85 70
Can somebody who had funds stolen please start a type 3 flag & let us know here so we can support it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=140827As far as we know, YOGG HAS SCAMMED people and everyone has a right to be angry naturally. But in my experience if you back people into corners they don’t react well, if there is any way of getting people any kind of recompense it’s worth talking first if possible?? This is by no means condoning what yogg has done and please do report him for this horrendous shit show !
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MrMojoRising26
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January 13, 2023, 08:05:36 AM |
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Shout out and a big thank you to yoda being on top of his addys and catching it for everyone! He found this app awhile back, and has been inputing all his physical bitcoin addys to keep track of his holdings the app is called bitcoin address tracker. The app refreshes on its own so thats how he caught it. If you all have time use the app or something similar to it to be able to catch something like this in the future. I know its on apple products not sure about android. you can label your addys to know what is what scan addresses, or manually input them. He told me what happened while I was at work I rushed home to peel the CC cards I did have.. I was fortunate others were not so lucky my heart goes out to them stuff like this ruins our hobby! it is unacceptable to be morally bankrupt, and do this to people that trusted you karma will play itself out in the end to those responsible.
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MoparMiningLLC
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Saw this - appears to be from yogg - was given to Lucho
Hello, This is a short update about the situation. It's 100% my mistake, there has been no hack. You don't need to break any Coldkey. The serie affected is the 3rd Halving Coldkey Silver edition and the AP sets. Gold and Bronze sets are unnafected.
I'm at a loss of words regarding my actions and I need to clarify what happened.
This release was to be funded in the halving block but the artwork wasn't ready at that moment. Keys were generated and kept securely to be applied to the final release. To prevent any hardware failures, I have made an encrypted USB backup of the keys because these keys were funded all along since the halving.
This is NOT how the rest of the Coldkeys keys have been generated. I have no reason to keep a privkey as it gets funded only upon receipt.
I have deleted the key files afterwards and totally forgot the backup.
This USB backup I found at my place. In a moment of weakness, I didn't realized what I was doing. Then, I started panicking and didn't know what to do at all.
I did a big mess, which turned into a bigger one as I tried to fix it. Funds are gone.
I wanna give up. I'm unable to chat with people. I'm unable to handle the project funds. I'm unable to do things in time. I'm unable to organize myself.
I'm unable. I'm not fit for life.
I am a failure and as such I deserve every inch of what I get.
Sorry for disapointing you all. That has never been my attention. I would make a lousy scammer, kinda unable to scam, or just unable.
I am devastated by my own actions. I feel lost here on bitcointalk, I feel lost at my place.
What devastates me even further is having betrayed your trust.
I know no words to express how I feel towards cygan, owlcatz and hookzup but I feel my heart getting uptight like never when I think of them.
So, I think of selling the project hardware to raise funds and give them back to their owners.
I'm lost. I don't know what to do and feel awful for failing you.
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January 13, 2023, 09:11:09 AM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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Realistically what can the police do? I don't see how they could help in this situation
They will go to his place and confront him. It's stolen money after all I hope it's that simple and that the police take BTC seriously I know from talking to Yogg that France takes the crypto business quite serious. He had to jump through hoops to get his business properly registered, so I would assume that suing Yogg shouldn't be too hard.
The thing that confuses me most right now is that the funds on ` 3BZDT1rhf7vnabzASuiLzDBBbgDfHivdRd` still haven't been moved. An exchange usually doesn't keep funds in a customers deposit address for this long.
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are people treading lightly & treating yogg as some kind of victim here? Leave him negative trust, distrust him in your trust list & more importantly, if you are affected by this financially contact the police so he can be prosecuted & hopefully jailed. Police Nationale Police department in Rouen, France Address: 44 Bd de l'Yser, 76000 Rouen, France Closed ⋅ Opens 8:30 AM Phone: +33 2 35 07 85 70
Can somebody who had funds stolen please start a type 3 flag & let us know here so we can support it - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;addflag=140827As far as we know, YOGG HAS SCAMMED people and everyone has a right to be angry naturally. But in my experience if you back people into corners they don’t react well, if there is any way of getting people any kind of recompense it’s worth talking first if possible?? This is by no means condoning what yogg has done and please do report him for this horrendous shit show ! I never mentioned that YOGG was a victim. There should be consequences for him for what he did. I hope he has remorse for what happened, it certainly reads that way. I hope he makes amends and gets funds reimbursed buy it won't pay for the value of the product or the betrayal people have felt.
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January 13, 2023, 09:47:03 AM |
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Really sucks to learn of this… it’s a sad day for all affected, both directly and indirectly - the collectors, the creators... Lucho.
I’m now in my tenth year in this space, and I’m unsure of where to go from here… but it’s a near certainty that I won’t be releasing any more artworks in the future where I’ve generated the keys. It feels like those days are nearing an end.
If anyone wants to fundraise or similar to help make victims whole, I am willing to donate/auction some art to help make this a reality.
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January 13, 2023, 11:00:35 AM |
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Really sucks to learn of this… it’s a sad day for all affected, both directly and indirectly - the collectors, the creators... Lucho.
I’m now in my tenth year in this space, and I’m unsure of where to go from here… but it’s a near certainty that I won’t be releasing any more artworks in the future where I’ve generated the keys. It feels like those days are nearing an end.
If anyone wants to fundraise or similar to help make victims whole, I am willing to donate/auction some art to help make this a reality.
With you on this, if I can help out. Situation is bad for collectors, makers and associated artist(s). Clay
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January 13, 2023, 11:15:15 AM |
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Saw this - appears to be from yogg - was given to Lucho
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i have also received this message... will publish my own statement in a few minutes
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January 13, 2023, 11:20:09 AM Last edit: January 13, 2023, 02:59:57 PM by PreciousMetapsICT |
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Unfortunately none of us can be made whole. Literally impossible. Our collections are forever diminished and our trust of highly vetted members of this crypto space is altered. I lost way more than that paltry .0125 btc that got swiped. I lost thousands in premiums paid. I lost trust and respect for Coldkeys, which pours over to every new producer out there. My beautiful artworks are now thrown in the back of my closet - put away like trash.
I get that you guys like BTC, but I truly love collectibles. Having btc locked away isn’t so much about storing btc for me, but enjoying the art that has gone into each piece. The funding is comparable to an artist working with gold or silver - it locks away value in a unique way. I will never shy away from funded collectibles, but will def need some time to process this loss.
If someone could please post a picture of any other set besides a Coldkey Silver that was swiped - with holo intact, we can at least stop this narrative that it was a one off deal and only affects the silver halvings (and the raffle funds).
I personally do not feel sorry for Yogg. I feel sorry for you guys who had trust and friendship with someone for years and he threw it all away. What a shitty way to treat your friends. Also Cygan and Owlcatz - I feel for you guys a ton. Owlcatz for helping the rebuild and Cygan for getting pulled into this mess right before the rug was pulled. And I don’t believe Yoggs narrative a single bit. If you find a usb that has keys stored on it, the first thing ANY reputable maker would do is destroy it. He kept it and I would assume others as his personal piggy bank. Sad sad day in the physical crypto space.
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Imagine being so lame, you have to bump your own sales posts. Damn lying leviathans
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January 13, 2023, 11:29:00 AM |
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I rarely visit "Collectibles" board, but it's surprising to find out there are still many people buy pre-funded wallet/card where they have to trust the creator. That's why many Bitcoiner keep mentioning proverb "Don't trust, verify".
Funnily enough, I think it's actually written on some collectibles. trolol Unfortunately none of us can be made whole. Literally impossible. Our collections are forever diminished and our trust of highly vetted members of this crypto space is altered. I lost way more than that paltry .0125 btc that got swiped. I lost thousands in premiums paid. I lost trust and respect for Coldkeys, which pours over to every new producer out there. My beautiful artworks are now thrown in the back of my closet - put away like trash.
I get that you guys like BTC, but I truly love collectibles. Having btc locked away isn’t so much about storing btc for me, but enjoying the art that has gone into each piece. The funding is comparable to an artist working with gold or silver - it locks away value in a unique way. I will never shy away from funded collectibles, but will def need some time to process this loss.
If someone could please post a picture of any other set besides a Coldkey Silver that was swiped - with holo intact, we can at least stop this narrative that it was a one off deal and only affects the silver halvings (and the raffle funds).
I personally do not feel sorry for Yogg. I feel sorry for you guys who had trust and friendship with a someone for years and he threw it all away. What a shitty way to treat your friends. Also Cygan and Owlcatz - I feel for you guys a ton. Owlcatz for helping the rebuild and Cygan for getting pulled into this mess right before the rug was pulled. And I don’t believe Yoggs narrative a single bit. If you find a usb that has keys stored on it, the first thing ANY reputable maker would do is destroy it. He kept it and I would assume others as his personal piggy bank. Sad sad day in the physical crypto space.
Man, I feel you 100%. This is a cluster-fuck causing some waves affecting many collectible projects in the long run. The only silver-lining I see in this, is that the focus will go back to self-custody. DIY coins will increase in interest and value. Makers will have to adjust their strategies. But let's see. In "real" crypto, massive exchanges get hacked every year or so. Then you see people shouting "not your keys, not your coins" for a few months just to be back at storing them in some shady CEX a few months later again. Saw this - appears to be from yogg - was given to Lucho
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i have also received this message... will publish my own statement in a few minutes Can't wait to read it.
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Thanks to Yodas first of all. What a mess and personal tragedy. Really loving this community here and chatting personally with many of you.
I'm sure we have all learned from that & hope that a single person can't bring down what got built here
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January 13, 2023, 12:12:46 PM |
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Both were swiped 12 hours ago! I wouldn’t have known if I didn’t have a bitcoin tracker app.
I know this is a total nightmare and that you guys are most likely busy dealing with this, but I was wondering, what kind of app do you use that tracks individual addresses? I'm thinking it may be time to do the same over here... Thanks!
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January 13, 2023, 12:19:27 PM |
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Both were swiped 12 hours ago! I wouldn’t have known if I didn’t have a bitcoin tracker app.
I know this is a total nightmare and that you guys are most likely busy dealing with this, but I was wondering, what kind of app do you use that tracks individual addresses? I'm thinking it may be time to do the same over here... Thanks! You may want to read this previous post Shout out and a big thank you to yoda being on top of his addys and catching it for everyone! He found this app awhile back, and has been inputing all his physical bitcoin addys to keep track of his holdings the app is called bitcoin address tracker. The app refreshes on its own so thats how he caught it. If you all have time use the app or something similar to it to be able to catch something like this in the future. I know its on apple products not sure about android. you can label your addys to know what is what scan addresses, or manually input them. He told me what happened while I was at work I rushed home to peel the CC cards I did have.. I was fortunate others were not so lucky my heart goes out to them stuff like this ruins our hobby! it is unacceptable to be morally bankrupt, and do this to people that trusted you karma will play itself out in the end to those responsible. For what it counts I don't buy the "one degen's night" story Yogg is spreading by PM : too many things don't match, the USB appearing magicly out of nowhere, seamingly ( but waiting for confirmation) not only silver cards were swiped, the raffle, resignation from CEA, not to mention he already defaulted on a loan supposed to be repaid last October. Really sorry for all the collectibles sector actors who are going to bear the real damage from this situation: unfortunately having Btc stolen here is the smallest damage. Just to make an example I was approaching collectibles thanks to a coldkey card that Cygan had generously gave out in a giveaway and that am now really sceptic about. Wonder why some people mess up things this way.
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January 13, 2023, 12:22:15 PM Last edit: January 15, 2023, 12:19:11 AM by YodasRedRocket |
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Shout out and a big thank you to yoda being on top of his addys and catching it for everyone! He found this app awhile back, and has been inputing all his physical bitcoin addys to keep track of his holdings the app is called bitcoin address tracker. The app refreshes on its own so thats how he caught it. If you all have time use the app or something similar to it to be able to catch something like this in the future. I know its on apple products not sure about android. you can label your addys to know what is what scan addresses, or manually input them. He told me what happened while I was at work I rushed home to peel the CC cards I did have.. I was fortunate others were not so lucky my heart goes out to them stuff like this ruins our hobby! it is unacceptable to be morally bankrupt, and do this to people that trusted you karma will play itself out in the end to those responsible. Thanks for posting this Mojo. There’s also a version for Android I was made aware of… https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samourai.sentinelEdited with correct link to android tracker app!
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As for Yoda, I intend to block you on Twitter. Please be mindful of your language, as using terms as "bitchh" reflects poorly on you. ~ MrHoDLUrFuNdZ
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Frank AlpenCoin
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January 13, 2023, 12:46:05 PM |
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What a bad news for collectors, artists, makers, and our amazing community. So sad... Coldkey wanted to make a new 'Tangible Bitcoin ColdKey edition' with all the makers of the forum..... I share this app (Bitcoin address tracker, never used it, but could make sense for my collection) made in Switzerland by a famous swiss bitcoiner ( https://twitter.com/ZLOK ) SATPILE https://satpile.com/https://twitter.com/SatpileTake care.... Hope Yogg will find a way to refund everyone... Really sucks to learn of this… it’s a sad day for all affected, both directly and indirectly - the collectors, the creators... Lucho.
I’m now in my tenth year in this space, and I’m unsure of where to go from here… but it’s a near certainty that I won’t be releasing any more artworks in the future where I’ve generated the keys. It feels like those days are nearing an end.
If anyone wants to fundraise or similar to help make victims whole, I am willing to donate/auction some art to help make this a reality.
With you on this, if I can help out. Situation is bad for collectors, makers and associated artist(s). Clay With you, If I can donate something.
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MoparMiningLLC
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January 13, 2023, 01:26:46 PM |
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For me my loss is the value in the cards that I had to cut up and sweep myself, the .05 loan I made to yogg (you have this proof already) and the 25 cards yogg owed me - 23 for myself and 2 for another collector here that had me purchase them (those are now worthless)
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krogothmanhattan
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January 13, 2023, 01:40:19 PM |
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For me my loss is the value in the cards that I had to cut up and sweep myself, the .05 loan I made to yogg (you have this proof already) and the 25 cards yogg owed me - 23 for myself and 2 for another collector here that had me purchase them (those are now worthless) Aye the cards collectable value is now zero...that is also a BIG LOSS
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