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January 14, 2023, 08:09:30 PM
Last edit: May 14, 2023, 05:04:53 PM by krogothmanhattan
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Coldkey Scam Reference




  Very well done my friend....Please post this in its glory when read on my scams thread!

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3315347.0

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January 14, 2023, 08:13:15 PM
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Or ScamKey

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January 14, 2023, 08:42:55 PM
Last edit: January 14, 2023, 09:29:30 PM by Saint-loup
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Do we know approximately the amount of btc that have been scammed ?
LoyceV is tracking 140 addresses starting with bc1qhalved into a watch-only wallet. As we can see in his screenshot the balance was 862.5mbtc before january 12 and 143.75mbtc after the last transaction tracked last night. It means 718.75mbtc (0.71875 btc) could have been withdrawn by him up to now.
Even after the recent bull run it doesn't represent a very large amount (about 15k$). Victims can hope recovering their funds one day IMO.

This is exactly what a scammer would say, if he doesn't want people to sweep their other Coldkeys. It's more than just a cliché: it looks like the scammer is no criminal mastermind, otherwise he would have emptied all addresses at once to prevent anyone from sweeping them before he can. I imported all 140 addresses starting with bc1qhalved watch-only into Electrum (including the ones that were emptied earlier) to check sweeping times:
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January 14, 2023, 09:20:01 PM
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Or ScamKey

  I like that very much!!  SCAMKEY!  COLDSCAM!  Keep em rolling

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January 14, 2023, 09:41:13 PM
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Really sucks to learn of this… it’s a sad day for all affected, both directly and indirectly - the collectors, the creators... Lucho.

I’m now in my tenth year in this space, and I’m unsure of where to go from here… but it’s a near certainty that I won’t be releasing any more artworks in the future where I’ve generated the keys. It feels like those days are nearing an end.

If anyone wants to fundraise or similar to help make victims whole, I am willing to donate/auction some art to help make this a reality.

With you on this, if I can help out.

Situation is bad for collectors, makers and associated artist(s).

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Sweet, thanks Clay! Will get back to your PM shortly.

Really sucks to learn of this… it’s a sad day for all affected, both directly and indirectly - the collectors, the creators... Lucho.

I’m now in my tenth year in this space, and I’m unsure of where to go from here… but it’s a near certainty that I won’t be releasing any more artworks in the future where I’ve generated the keys. It feels like those days are nearing an end.

If anyone wants to fundraise or similar to help make victims whole, I am willing to donate/auction some art to help make this a reality.

Great idea Max.


ColdKey charity auction for victims of the apparent theft
LINK: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434623.msg61590179#msg61590179

Feel free to add an item to the list.

And thanks for getting the ball rolling, Smoothie.

After reflecting on this today, I would like to offer up a Diamond Builder to the recovery fund. Only three of these remain.

Rather than an auction, it would be nice to find a buyer for this at the same retail price others purchased these for - and I will donate the entire $10k. Anyone needing some emotional glow??


https://kialara.com/product/special-edition-2022-builders/


Let me know if you would like to add your item to the auction list whether you would prefer to sell it at the full retail price of $10k or not. I could also list it as a saleable item or if you prefer you could make your own sale thread.

Up to you. Either way, let me know.

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January 14, 2023, 09:49:43 PM
Merited by krogothmanhattan (1)
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Coldkey Scam Reference




  Very well done my friend....Please post this in its glory when read on my scams thread!

    https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3315347.0
Don't forget to update your thread [INFO] All ABOUT COLDKEY CARDS too.
BTW were you aware of his gambling addiction? Because it's the first time I hear about that. Does anyone know on which games he was gambling precisely? He was a pocker player, a sport bettor or just a casino gambler? Trading could also be a kind of gambling activity so I hope no other reputed and famous escrow will fall like that again for an (supposed) addiction issue.

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January 14, 2023, 09:53:44 PM
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Or ScamKey
Yogg should have just called them HotKeys from the start, he knew he had a file of the private keys to carry out a future scam.
There was nothing cold about this scam
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January 15, 2023, 12:01:29 AM
Merited by MrMojoRising26 (3)
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Hey KW, thanks for the combined info thread.

Here is the IOS app that alerted me to the rug pull to add to your references…

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/bitcoin-address-tracker/id1465853490

I asked the developer to look into a feature that will send you an alert if your balance drops… I’ll let you know if he’s able to make that happen.

Thanks!
Wow, such a feature would be DOPE.
Still, I never wanna face such an alarm. Ever.

Hey KW

Please update the link to the android tracker app.  The one I had originally was a wallet, here’s the tracker…

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samourai.sentinel

Sorry, I don’t have an android & a buddy just informed me of the error ✌🏼

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As promised, here is the last time I spoke with yogg via sms (The morning yoda noticed it, right after that)! - I wiped some personal stuff, but you can tell:

1. He's lying about the gold keys
2. He lied about never peeling anything in his life, he told me over a year ago that he has been desperate enough to peel his own cards. Roll Eyes
3.. The last part is about me threatening to sue him. Roll Eyes

https://i.imgur.com/hqgoGvd.jpg (click the pic to zoom in to read it). Tongue

Lastly, I've sms'ed him for his attorney's name and address and to phone cygan asap.

I don't know his location or his mothers name or address either.

He conveniently  moved a month or so ago and never gave me the new address, however he is still renting the old place and receiving mail.

I will not post any of that info unless it's in the investigations board, so if anyone has a link to that thread (If it exists yet) I can and will Dox him if people like, but i'm sure i"m not the only one with that address... Huh

Edit - pardon my typos in the screenshot, I was using google voice to text. Tongue

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Hey KW

Please update the link to the android tracker app.  The one I had originally was a wallet, here’s the tracker…

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samourai.sentinel

Sorry, I don’t have an android & a buddy just informed me of the error ✌🏼

Oh wow, thanks man, I was wondering if there was an android version but haven't had time to look yet. Thanks again to you for alerting us all that day..., VERY VERY MUCH!!!


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As promised, here is the last time I spoke with yogg via sms (The morning yoda noticed it, right after that)! - I wiped some personal stuff, but you can tell:

1. He's lying about the gold keys
2. He lied about never peeling anything in his life, he told me over a year ago that he has been desperate enough to peel his own cards. Roll Eyes
3.. The last part is about me threatening to sue him. Roll Eyes

https://i.imgur.com/hqgoGvd.jpg (click the pic to zoom in to read it). Tongue

Lastly, I've sms'ed him for his attorney's name and address and to phone cygan asap.

I don't know his location or his mothers name or address either.

He conveniently  moved a month or so ago and never gave me the new address, however he is still renting the old place and receiving mail.

I will not post any of that info unless it's in the investigations board, so if anyone has a link to that thread (If it exists yet) I can and will Dox him if people like, but i'm sure i"m not the only one with that address... Huh

Edit - pardon my typos in the screenshot, I was using google voice to text. Tongue

Thanks/Sorry,
Owl


Hey KW

Please update the link to the android tracker app.  The one I had originally was a wallet, here’s the tracker…

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samourai.sentinel

Sorry, I don’t have an android & a buddy just informed me of the error ✌🏼

Oh wow, thanks man, I was wondering if there was an android version but haven't had time to look yet. Thanks again to you for alerting us all that day..., VERY VERY MUCH!!!







I think the part where he tells you he has the keys to the Gold halvings as well should have been shared as well - as obviously he isn’t trustworthy
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As promised, here is the last time I spoke with yogg via sms (The morning yoda noticed it, right after that)! - I wiped some personal stuff, but you can tell:

1. He's lying about the gold keys
2. He lied about never peeling anything in his life, he told me over a year ago that he has been desperate enough to peel his own cards. Roll Eyes
3.. The last part is about me threatening to sue him. Roll Eyes

https://i.imgur.com/hqgoGvd.jpg (click the pic to zoom in to read it). Tongue

Lastly, I've sms'ed him for his attorney's name and address and to phone cygan asap.

I don't know his location or his mothers name or address either.

He conveniently  moved a month or so ago and never gave me the new address, however he is still renting the old place and receiving mail.

I will not post any of that info unless it's in the investigations board, so if anyone has a link to that thread (If it exists yet) I can and will Dox him if people like, but i'm sure i"m not the only one with that address... Huh

Edit - pardon my typos in the screenshot, I was using google voice to text. Tongue

Thanks/Sorry,
Owl


Hey KW

Please update the link to the android tracker app.  The one I had originally was a wallet, here’s the tracker…

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.samourai.sentinel

Sorry, I don’t have an android & a buddy just informed me of the error ✌🏼

Oh wow, thanks man, I was wondering if there was an android version but haven't had time to look yet. Thanks again to you for alerting us all that day..., VERY VERY MUCH!!!



    I read this and only one truth I can see in what he said....

     Since my name came up in that convo

      The halving cards were my idea to have two cards and together make one image.

      And yes idea was to have them all loaded on the first block of the halving. So that part is the only truth.

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January 15, 2023, 12:54:14 AM
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I read this and only one truth I can see in what he said....

     Since my name came up in that convo

      The halving cards were my idea to have two cards and together make one image.

      And yes idea was to have them all loaded on the first block of the halving. So that part is the only truth.

Thanks for confirming, I figured it was some lame excuse like that to deflect from himself... Fucking degenerate POS... Still so mad  Angry

No replies since my last messages ofc... I am not sure if he called Cygan yet or not either. 🤷‍♂️

May he burn in the 🔥 of karma I guess. Not much I can do anymore but try and call the cops

Also, I think his business registration was phony/faked by some rando dude in Ukraine who just sells his ID for owning shell companies. I'll see if I can find the file on that.

I also have the full DB of ALL cards in the Mongo DB without the customer info. I'll re-scan that next and post it. There are a lot of weird card names in there, so not sure if they were real or test etc.. Huh

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January 15, 2023, 12:55:06 AM
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How fucking disappointing.

I know yogg's had his problems over the last few years but never thought it'd end up like this. Almost can't believe it.
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January 15, 2023, 01:16:32 AM
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How fucking disappointing.

I know yogg's had his problems over the last few years but never thought it'd end up like this. Almost can't believe it.

I just took a look at the messaging he had with owlcatz and the complete disregard on the situation he manages to express makes me wonder whether he was going through a depressive episode.

I do not know yogg, I have never talked to him and probably after this noones cares about him here on the forum, however, do you think he will try to end his life?

He is giving mixed messages. While talking about ending it all at the same time all this looks so premeditated: the termination of the business, the change of address, the fact he continued sweeping even gold sets. What is going on?

Is this actually a person in the run?  Huh


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January 15, 2023, 01:26:27 AM
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https://web.archive.org/web/20230115011659/https://coldkey.medium.com/the-past-the-present-and-the-future-26b9e884173


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January 15, 2023, 01:41:18 AM
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Let me know if you would like to add your item to the auction list whether you would prefer to sell it at the full retail price of $10k or not. I could also list it as a saleable item or if you prefer you could make your own sale thread.

Up to you. Either way, let me know.

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Thanks smoothie, yea perhaps you can just list it as for sale in your thread for me? If it's still available when you begin the auctions I'll reach out to you to discuss options.  Cool
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ALL CARDS FROM THE SITE DB (NO CUSTOMER INFO!!) as of Feb/March this past year. Sorry nothing newer.  Roll Eyes

cards_-_cards.csv]https://turb.pw/lt2vauei4nqj.html]cards_-_cards.csv

Edit - if you cannot download free, lmk - changed the link to safer service.

If someone has time, can they try and find any unpeeled cards left, so maybe I can try and email the customer if I can/have to?

Thanks!
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January 15, 2023, 03:43:19 AM
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    I read this and only one truth I can see in what he said....

     Since my name came up in that convo

      The halving cards were my idea to have two cards and together make one image.

      And yes idea was to have them all loaded on the first block of the halving. So that part is the only truth.

my whole problem with his explanation about keeping keys to fund them with the first block - you dont need pk's to do funding , addresses can do that.

so wtf have copies? and then after they were funded why then not destroy the keys?Huh then he said oh I found the gold keys too...

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January 15, 2023, 03:59:52 AM
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my whole problem with his explanation about keeping keys to fund them with the first block - you dont need pk's to do funding , addresses can do that.

so wtf have copies? and then after they were funded why then not destroy the keys?Huh then he said oh I found the gold keys too...

I agree but he claimed the artwork wasn't ready yet to print at that time, so that's why those were stored until later which makes a bit of sense actually since the history series he would just print, shread and then spend day's sticking holos etc..

Since all PK's were/are actually printed on the cards not on a slip of paper behind the holo, he had a special python program that would just print them, then delete thm on an air-gapped pc. Then he had a special (expensive) film shredder to shred the special (large) film rolls after printing. (Why do that if you are keeping PK's, right? Tongue ) ....

That said, these are my own speculations, because he told me he just had to delete the keys, because he did not trust himself or anyone else. Maybe for some series that is true, since some of my low-value history cards have not been swept.... Again, don't trust me, just my own observations here again... 

Looking back, I really don't think any of this was actually premeditated. He seemed to be really proud of his creation(s), often told his family about how happy he was with it even tho he was often stunned by the support he had back after the first round of fuckups .. I know he's back on shitty anti-depressants again and has been drinking and smoking lots of hashish, but IDK what else he may be into. He never talked about any other drugs that I recall.


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January 15, 2023, 04:05:24 AM
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I agree but he claimed the artwork wasn't ready yet to print at that time, so that's why those were stored until later which makes a bit of sense actually since the history series he would just print, shread and then spend day's sticking holos etc..



yes ok then shred once done - again no need to save once project is done.

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