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January 15, 2023, 09:02:58 PM
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My knowledge about collectibles are zero. Always saw cool guys in the collectible sections, love each others and collect things from each others. They do free raffle, giveaway and many more things. One of the reason I never found the section interesting is because even if I buy anything I will need to provide my postal address to someone (I trust or not). I don't know if I should feel better for myself while I see many of you lost your coins because you trusted a trusted guy who had years of positive history on the forum.

But I defiantly feel better that I did not have to trust anyone and later to regret. Isn't bitcoin thought us to verify not trust?

For all who are in the collective section, this should be a lesson. You did not pay much for the mistake though.

So after all these years, yogg decided to sell his reputation for money. Sad as fuck.
And that's for $50k (I read it somewhere). What a fucking cheap price.
The conclusion of your post is a bit provocative IMO. I think most of them are already fully aware of the risks they take by trusting one people and I don't think many of them were using a Coldkey to store all of their funds. But when they bought their Coldkey they didn't buy a kind of physical wallet, they bought a nice collectible that could increase in value in the coming years. Unfortunately with what has happened this potential value had been severely hurt, that's why they are so angry, so I don't think we can say they didn't pay much for their so-called mistake. They are the victims, not the ones to be blamed.

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January 15, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
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My knowledge about collectibles are zero. Always saw cool guys in the collectible sections, love each others and collect things from each others. They do free raffle, giveaway and many more things. One of the reason I never found the section interesting is because even if I buy anything I will need to provide my postal address to someone (I trust or not). I don't know if I should feel better for myself while I see many of you lost your coins because you trusted a trusted guy who had years of positive history on the forum.

But I defiantly feel better that I did not have to trust anyone and later to regret. Isn't bitcoin thought us to verify not trust?

For all who are in the collective section, this should be a lesson. You did not pay much for the mistake though.

So after all these years, yogg decided to sell his reputation for money. Sad as fuck.
And that's for $50k (I read it somewhere). What a fucking cheap price.
The conclusion of your post is a bit provocative IMO. I think most of them are already fully aware of the risks they take by trusting one people and I don't think many of them were using a Coldkey to store all of their funds. But when they bought their Coldkey they didn't buy a kind of physical wallet, they bought a nice collectible that could increase in value in the coming years. Unfortunately with what has happened this potential value had been severely hurt, that's why they are so angry, so I don't think we can say they didn't pay much for their so-called mistake. They are the victims, not the ones to be blamed.

I'm stating the obvious when I add that gamblers also assume a certain amount of risk.
I would personally rather extend my trust to an individual with a track record than a *casino - better odds.
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January 15, 2023, 10:47:58 PM
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My knowledge about collectibles are zero. Always saw cool guys in the collectible sections, love each others and collect things from each others. They do free raffle, giveaway and many more things. One of the reason I never found the section interesting is because even if I buy anything I will need to provide my postal address to someone (I trust or not). I don't know if I should feel better for myself while I see many of you lost your coins because you trusted a trusted guy who had years of positive history on the forum.

But I defiantly feel better that I did not have to trust anyone and later to regret. Isn't bitcoin thought us to verify not trust?

For all who are in the collective section, this should be a lesson. You did not pay much for the mistake though.

So after all these years, yogg decided to sell his reputation for money. Sad as fuck.
And that's for $50k (I read it somewhere). What a fucking cheap price.
The conclusion of your post is a bit provocative IMO. I think most of them are already fully aware of the risks they take by trusting one people and I don't think many of them were using a Coldkey to store all of their funds. But when they bought their Coldkey they didn't buy a kind of physical wallet, they bought a nice collectible that could increase in value in the coming years. Unfortunately with what has happened this potential value had been severely hurt, that's why they are so angry, so I don't think we can say they didn't pay much for their so-called mistake. They are the victims, not the ones to be blamed.

I think the 50k comment is directly to Yogg. I’ve done the same calculations. Assuming all halvings are swept (1.6 btc by my calculations) and raffle funds (.2?) - and no other series get swept (again - we will see!!!!) —- it seems a ridiculous low amount of money to sell out your company, friends, and livelihood for. Kind of offensive to us collectors who had such trust in him. What a POS -
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January 15, 2023, 11:23:44 PM
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My knowledge about collectibles are zero. Always saw cool guys in the collectible sections, love each others and collect things from each others. They do free raffle, giveaway and many more things. One of the reason I never found the section interesting is because even if I buy anything I will need to provide my postal address to someone (I trust or not). I don't know if I should feel better for myself while I see many of you lost your coins because you trusted a trusted guy who had years of positive history on the forum.

But I defiantly feel better that I did not have to trust anyone and later to regret. Isn't bitcoin thought us to verify not trust?

For all who are in the collective section, this should be a lesson. You did not pay much for the mistake though.

So after all these years, yogg decided to sell his reputation for money. Sad as fuck.
And that's for $50k (I read it somewhere). What a fucking cheap price.
The conclusion of your post is a bit provocative IMO. I think most of them are already fully aware of the risks they take by trusting one people and I don't think many of them were using a Coldkey to store all of their funds. But when they bought their Coldkey they didn't buy a kind of physical wallet, they bought a nice collectible that could increase in value in the coming years. Unfortunately with what has happened this potential value had been severely hurt, that's why they are so angry, so I don't think we can say they didn't pay much for their so-called mistake. They are the victims, not the ones to be blamed.

I think the 50k comment is directly to Yogg. I’ve done the same calculations. Assuming all halvings are swept (1.6 btc by my calculations) and raffle funds (.2?) - and no other series get swept (again - we will see!!!!) —- it seems a ridiculous low amount of money to sell out your company, friends, and livelihood for. Kind of offensive to us collectors who had such trust in him. What a POS -

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January 16, 2023, 04:51:44 AM
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I'm still reading my way through this thread, but can I make a small suggestion to those posting negative trust feedback on yogg's trust feedback wall, please?

If you are placing negative trust feedback and have previously placed positive trust feedback, then can I suggest you either remove your positive trust feedback entirely, or change to neutral trust feedback?  To me it makes no sense to post a positive trust feedback saying you had a great experience buying a product, then posting a second, negative trust feedback that says you were robbed by the same person.




To any mods/admin - can the thread [CLOSED] 🌠 yogg's escrow service ⭐ BTC & Alts ⭐ Fast ⭐ Reliable ⭐ Secure 🌠 be locked, please?  It was last edited on 13 June, 2022 and the last actual post was 2021-01-24, 00:19:20




@LoyceV can you recall if yogg and or cygan ever posted in the numerous vanity wallet generation threads at all?

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I think everyone is missed with yogg alt account yogg_alt since no one have left negative feedback yet except me.

His last active was January 15, 2023, 05:09:10 AM, it means he's really aware and keep watching this mess for sure, I don't see any chance he will resolve this case since he's not making any reply.

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January 16, 2023, 05:17:02 AM
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I think everyone is missed with yogg alt account yogg_alt since no one have left negative feedback yet except me.

His last active was January 15, 2023, 05:09:10 AM, it means he's really aware and keep watching this mess for sure, I don't see any chance he will resolve this case since he's not making any reply.

thanks for pointing this out.... I added a neg as well. he comes online AFTER the bullshit with his alt and sees the mayhem and does nothing still - man is digging a bigger hole.


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January 16, 2023, 07:29:37 AM
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I think everyone is missed with yogg alt account yogg_alt since no one have left negative feedback yet except me.

His last active was January 15, 2023, 05:09:10 AM, it means he's really aware and keep watching this mess for sure, I don't see any chance he will resolve this case since he's not making any reply.

I'm definitely getting rusty. I forgot I'd interacted with the alt.

Hang in there @yogg - don't ever let this place get the better of you.

Viewing BPIP shows the alt has never woken up in the last five years which means the alt has been used often enough that it hasn't been considered to have become inactive.  (and was last active <24 hours ago)

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I think everyone is missed with yogg alt account yogg_alt since no one have left negative feedback yet except me.

His last active was January 15, 2023, 05:09:10 AM, it means he's really aware and keep watching this mess for sure, I don't see any chance he will resolve this case since he's not making any reply.

I'm definitely getting rusty. I forgot I'd interacted with the alt.

Hang in there @yogg - don't ever let this place get the better of you.

Viewing BPIP shows the alt has never woken up in the last five years which means the alt has been used often enough that it hasn't been considered to have become inactive.  (and was last active <24 hours ago)

You can be 100% sure that he is reading the whole story in this thread. I would now just wish that he just had the balls in his pants, to make a clean sweep and be really honest.
Statements that only silver sets were effected, for example, have also been proven to be lies. That just makes me even angrier  Angry

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He also borrowed money from me, and still owes me $1500 (+ interest). I had no idea he borrowed money from so many different people.
Sorry to hear that...I wonder how many more are out there! You should ask Loyce as he might have the answer to this.
Sorry, I have no data on loans. Common practice to avoid taking multiple loans is leaving neutral feedback until it's paid back, but in yogg's case, there's nothing.

To me it makes no sense to post a positive trust feedback saying you had a great experience buying a product, then posting a second, negative trust feedback that says you were robbed by the same person.
By leaving the positive feedback, it shows a timeline of events. Some people have removed their positive feedback already, yogg dropped from +33 to +24.

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I don't recall, and can't easily check that.

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Going slightly offtopic with this: Yogg was able to take multiple loans from different users unbeknownst to each other.
If everyone, as already told by LoyceV, had left a track here in lending section posting just for reference and, even better, leaving a neutral trust until loan was repaid that would have allowed to raise a big red flag on Yogg.

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He also borrowed money from me, and still owes me $1500 (+ interest). I had no idea he borrowed money from so many different people.
Sorry to hear that...I wonder how many more are out there! You should ask Loyce as he might have the answer to this.
Sorry, I have no data on loans. Common practice to avoid taking multiple loans is leaving neutral feedback until it's paid back, but in yogg's case, there's nothing.

To me it makes no sense to post a positive trust feedback saying you had a great experience buying a product, then posting a second, negative trust feedback that says you were robbed by the same person.
By leaving the positive feedback, it shows a timeline of events. Some people have removed their positive feedback already, yogg dropped from +33 to +24.

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@LoyceV can you recall if yogg and or cygan ever posted in the numerous vanity wallet generation threads at all?
I don't recall, and can't easily check that.
Why there is no type two and type three flag yet? I suggest anyone who was involved in the direct trade to create a flag type 3. Currently it is showing the yellow warning and created by someone who is not directly effected by the scam. Yogg needs a bright red warning flag on his profile and every topics he created in trading sections.

A scam accusation topic is also needed. I am sure there are many users who do not visit the section don't know about it yet. If fact, I would miss it if I did not see a link in a gambling discussion topic.

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Last edit: January 16, 2023, 09:40:41 AM by Mitchell
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Both addresses that were swept to (`3BBNmksdPw63ghuNEeFsfPkwXaiqYJH9e7` and `3BZDT1rhf7vnabzASuiLzDBBbgDfHivdRd`) are now confirmed HitBTC addresses, as both were transferred to the HitBTC cold wallet. Looks like Yogg is going to cash it out/has actually sold it.



I've messaged their legal team, which probably won't help, but it should at least get his account shutdown. Feel free to contact them as well. The more the better IMO. Smiley

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@LoyceV can you recall if yogg and or cygan ever posted in the numerous vanity wallet generation threads at all?

i can tell you 100% that yogg was all alone in the control of all the hardware (which included making the public/private keys, printing the cards, etc.)
my task was to send the finished ck cards sent to me by yogg and to get more editions and artists for the upcoming history series

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Last edit: January 16, 2023, 12:16:28 PM by krogothmanhattan
 #295

Both addresses that were swept to (`3BBNmksdPw63ghuNEeFsfPkwXaiqYJH9e7` and `3BZDT1rhf7vnabzASuiLzDBBbgDfHivdRd`) are now confirmed HitBTC addresses, as both were transferred to the HitBTC cold wallet. Looks like Yogg is going to cash it out/has actually sold it.



I've messaged their legal team, which probably won't help, but it should at least get his account shutdown. Feel free to contact them as well. The more the better IMO. Smiley
   

    Thanks for doing this Mitchell I will report as well.

      You mentioned that he now has sodl the BTC ...Thats how SORRY HE IS Roll Eyes

      All just an act to gain sympathy from us....what a piece of shit Angry

     I am sure he was crying when he sold the STOLEN BTC as well.  Roll Eyes

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I have 4 sets of cards
I just realized that no one has ever been funded  Angry
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I have 4 sets of cards
I just realized that no one has ever been funded  Angry

Sorry Dernoste 😕

What series were they? Gold, silver, copper or combo?

All 4 sets were never funded?  Would you mind sharing the public addresses?

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I have 4 sets of cards
I just realized that no one has ever been funded  Angry

Sorry Dernoste 😕

What series were they? Gold, silver, copper or combo?

All 4 sets were never funded?  Would you mind sharing the public addresses?

mine are not set halving
Now I'm going to eat later I'll add info!
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January 16, 2023, 03:17:26 PM
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I think everyone is missed with yogg alt account yogg_alt since no one have left negative feedback yet except me.

His last active was January 15, 2023, 05:09:10 AM, it means he's really aware and keep watching this mess for sure, I don't see any chance he will resolve this case since he's not making any reply.

Well, on this same page there's also the account Coldkey, also (according to the trust feedback) acknowledged as alt of yogg.
It's an account inactive since 2021, but who knows, maybe yogg finds the credentials on another forgotten USB stick...

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when i read here now for a few days, from how many users (including me) yogg has borrowed high amounts and has not paid until today, then this develops with me even more anger, because i have worked together with this person and we wanted to achieve something together.
the fact that some history cards from the past have not been funded by yogg speaks only for his failure and that the whole thing has been developing negatively for a long time.
i am totally pissed at him and don't want to have anything more to do with this person.
the only thing i still want from him is that he calls me personally and apologizes for all this shit.

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