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January 05, 2024, 06:20:24 AM |
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IMHO it should be up to the donator to decide if they want to take funds back or not, it’s been too long and it even feels a big negligent to even put it to a vote, but I assume that would be better than voting on anything else. My 2.
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YodasRedRocket (OP)
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January 05, 2024, 12:28:52 PM |
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IMHO it should be up to the donator to decide if they want to take funds back or not, it’s been too long and it even feels a big negligent to even put it to a vote, but I assume that would be better than voting on anything else. My 2.
Ok! Let’s let donators decide! @MinerJones ??
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minerjones
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January 05, 2024, 12:34:53 PM |
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IMHO it should be up to the donator to decide if they want to take funds back or not, it’s been too long and it even feels a big negligent to even put it to a vote, but I assume that would be better than voting on anything else. My 2.
Ok! Let’s let donators decide! @MinerJones ?? It's really not my choice, but I will send out PMs to all the donators and see what they say. Apparently I had missed out on adding krogothmanhattan to the list as they held a separate auction for the victims as seen here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5438277.0This would add 0.007 to the total for payback New total would be 0.4028 btc 0.0031 2STOUT 0.0016 AOLUAIN 0.0193 CARIBBEAN_TREASURES 0.0160 CLAYCASTCRYPTOS 0.0014 DAVEF 0.0200 EST2013 0.0280 FRANK ALPENCOIN 0.0020 GEOPHPHREIGH 0.0055 HENKCRYPTOTANK 0.0190 HOOKZUP1 0.0017 HUMBLE BITCOINERS 0.0070 KROGOTHMANHATTAN 0.0041 KRYPTOWERK 0.0016 MBITR 0.0011 MINERJONES 0.0100 MOPARMININGLLC 0.0200 MRCRYPTHODL 0.0081 MRMOJORISING26 0.0019 POLYMERBIT 0.0072 QUAKERBULL 0.0200 RARITYCHECK 0.1479 SMOOTHIE 0.0021 STEELEY 0.0200 SWEETEYE 0.0195 TGBEX 0.0141 THENOVEMBERMAN 0.0006 WHEELZ1200 0.4028 TOTAL**I will wait until everyone has responded or at least within a set time frame of say maybe 1 month to let the donators decide what they want to do **Refunds will be sent as 1 batch transaction to save on transaction fees
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aoluain
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January 05, 2024, 12:46:32 PM |
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who needs to make a decision? Should this not be smoothie who decides?
as for someones loss being bigger than someone elses? that should not matter.
Set a guideline - pay those who lost funds from being swept. (and pay cygan for those he reimbursed)
if there are any funds after paying those - pay for undelivered orders and unfunded cards.
if anything after that (probably wont be) then look at paying those who loaned funds maybe.
The only issue I see is that with some of the "swept" ones. Many are very clearly swept - when 30-40 cards all went to one address.
However, there were a few I question are the ones where 1 or 2 cards were swept but went to a different address and not an address any other cards went to - those I feel might be people who swept their own cards and are trying to get double paid.
No, I would not say that it's up to smoothie to decide how funds are distributed at this point. If it was I imagine he'd have already made that decision. It's up to the community and clearly the community can't come to an agreement on how the funds should be distributed. IMO the only thing that should be done at this point is every donator should be refunded. I wouldn't even leave an option for saying just keep it and donate when things get decided, they should get funds back and if they decide to re-donate funds once there is a clear and precise decision of action, then sure they can donate back. This is my 2 and I think the majority at this point. We all have our ideas on what should be distributed where and it was a great /generous idea, but it's a complete mess that's no where near coming to a decision where to place these funds. Hence the only options being refunds for all sales as MinerJones has layed out above. Fuck you Yogg. What a mess you created (not to mention friendships destroyed) To cast my opinion and get things moving a bit, I endorse this idea. Its such a pity that the donations, hard work and time has amounted to nothing. However, there were a few I question are the ones where 1 or 2 cards were swept but went to a different address and not an address any other cards went to - those I feel might be people who swept their own cards and are trying to get double paid.
an here, if that was the case thats low and very petty.
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Kialara
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January 06, 2024, 04:27:01 AM |
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After a complex discussion with ChiBitTy regarding this whole situation, I’ve provided MJ with an address to return my donation. Despite my hopes for a swift resolution, the problem lingers on a year later, and it's nobody's fault but Yogg's.
To those here with integrity, I appreciate you. To the charlatans: is the enduring burden on your conscience truly worth it?
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krogothmanhattan
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January 08, 2024, 11:36:59 AM |
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I also have provided a BTC addy for the return of my auction funds. I did try last year creating a poll to see what to do with the money and that really went nowhere. POLL- What to do with auction proceeds for ScamKey victims
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Frank AlpenCoin
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January 08, 2024, 12:37:28 PM |
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Hello,
I also have provided a BTC address for the return.
I wish the community a wonderful 2024. Stay tuned for a free raffle...
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OgNasty
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January 08, 2024, 08:30:03 PM |
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Is there a total list of victims somewhere? How much would it cost to make this situation right?
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January 08, 2024, 11:57:18 PM |
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Is there a total list of victims somewhere? How much would it cost to make this situation right? [/quote Very crazy to see this thread still alive. I lost over .28 in cards that got swept by yogg before i got to them, I loaned him .5 to keep coldkey going a few months before he lost his mind, I had over 40 cards paid for that never got sent to me, and I don't even want to think anymore about the premium I lost on my over 200 coldkey collection almost all funded :-/
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Bitcoin is a real life cheat code to gain financial freedom 😉 the future is going to be fun
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minerjones
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January 12, 2024, 01:08:18 PM |
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All right... I have heard back from all 28x donors
26x opted for a refund 1x said to use for tx fees 1x said for me to keep
If the light is green with the go-ahead, refunds will be sent later this weekend
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krogothmanhattan
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January 12, 2024, 05:56:28 PM |
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All right... I have heard back from all 28x donors
26x opted for a refund 1x said to use for tx fees 1x said for me to keep
If the light is green with the go-ahead, refunds will be sent later this weekend
Great to hear...so yes please do send the funds and thanks for going thru all of this. I am glad you were compensated for your time and effort as well. Lets put this all past and behind us.
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MoparMiningLLC
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January 12, 2024, 06:06:43 PM |
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agree with putting it behind us - sad though as this did nothing to benefit any of the victims.
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OgNasty
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January 12, 2024, 07:50:37 PM Last edit: January 13, 2024, 02:24:13 AM by OgNasty |
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All right... I have heard back from all 28x donors
26x opted for a refund 1x said to use for tx fees 1x said for me to keep
If the light is green with the go-ahead, refunds will be sent later this weekend
Great to hear...so yes please do send the funds and thanks for going thru all of this. I am glad you were compensated for your time and effort as well. Lets put this all past and behind us. I'll admit that I'm a little sad that the victims won't get something out of this. I do hope that these types of situations grow us as a community so we don't continue falling into scams like this or allowing makers to take advantage of buyers with long preorder times for products that don't have funding yet, etc... While probably not the greatest deal I wanted to offer SOMETHING to the victims... I'm offering... 1) Free US shipping and a 20% discount to any effected users (who don't distrust me) that want to purchase Bitcoin Binary Rounds or Litecoin Binary Rounds. PM me to order. (20% discount for up to 2 coins per effected user) 2) A free ounce of silver and nasty t-shirt (while supplies last) for any new NastyShop orders. Just place your order and message me that you were effected by this and information so I can identify your order along with your preferred shirt size. (1 order per effected user) This offer is good for 1 week from this post and all discounts come out of my pocket personally. Effected users can take advantage of both deals at the same time, but limits are in place.
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Oh fun, realised I've lost $1k of bitcoin and 2 sets of my favourite collectibles. Thanks for flagging this in the scams master thread, I wouldn't have realised until much later otherwise.
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MoparMiningLLC
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thank you - I wish there had been a way that the funds got disbursed to the victims but that seems like it was impossible to quantify or distinguish who the victims were or what even qualified them as a victim.
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krogothmanhattan
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January 15, 2024, 05:03:39 PM Last edit: January 15, 2024, 05:31:57 PM by krogothmanhattan |
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Thanks MJ...can confirm I have received my donation back! Its a shame we couldn't come to a consensus and give it to the victims. Thanks again to all who have donated....at least we tried.
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January 15, 2024, 05:20:02 PM Last edit: January 16, 2024, 02:21:19 PM by CARIBBEAN_TREASURES |
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Donation received! On a positive note this means more free giveaways to the community! I'm about to release a new 2024 piece (He's Coming Back As A Lion) and during production I always make test strikes. On this new 2024 piece there was only 3 test strikes made in 999 copper. Keep an eye out for the free giveaway! This will most likely be the rarest piece in your collection or next to it. Cheers!!
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