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January 14, 2023, 01:39:41 PM
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Fifa already made the draw for the matches yesterday.


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Participating Teams

Al-Hilal SFC
Wydad AC
Seattle Sounders FC
CR Flamengo
Auckland City FC
Real Madrid
Al Ahly SC

The championship starts on February 1st and ends on February 11th

Do you think it will be easy for Real Madrid to win another world cup?
I always hope to see a team outside Europe to win, but it will be hard, maybe Flamengo can play in a high level to try.

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January 14, 2023, 03:25:13 PM
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Fifa already made the draw for the matches yesterday.


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Participating Teams

Al-Hilal SFC
Wydad AC
Seattle Sounders FC
CR Flamengo
Auckland City FC
Real Madrid
Al Ahly SC

The championship starts on February 1st and ends on February 11th

Do you think it will be easy for Real Madrid to win another world cup?
I always hope to see a team outside Europe to win, but it will be hard, maybe Flamengo can play in a high level to try.

European clubs have been dominant in this competition for the past 10 years or more because the difference in quality between the top European and South American clubs is too great.
South American clubs simply cannot keep up with European clubs financially and organizationally, and their best players leave early to play in the best European clubs.
Honestly, I don't know how strong Flamengo is right now, but I'm sure that Real will be the favorite in their final match.
It seems to me that in the last few years we have even had cases where South American clubs were eliminated before the finals?

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January 14, 2023, 05:50:35 PM
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European clubs have been dominant in this competition for the past 10 years or more because the difference in quality between the top European and South American clubs is too great.
South American clubs simply cannot keep up with European clubs financially and organizationally, and their best players leave early to play in the best European clubs.
Honestly, I don't know how strong Flamengo is right now, but I'm sure that Real will be the favorite in their final match.
It seems to me that in the last few years we have even had cases where South American clubs were eliminated before the finals?


Pretty hard to beat Europeans, and in my opinion it's not fair to start at semi-finals.
But talking about south americans, the last champion was Corinthians in 2012 against Chelsea, it's 10 years without any title for South America

Take a look, since 2013:

  • 2013 - Winner - Bayer / 2nd place Raja Casablanca
  • 2014 - Winner - Real Madrid / 2nd place San Lorenzo
  • 2015 - Winner - Barcelona / 2nd place River Plate
  • 2016 - Winner - Real Madrid / 2nd place Kashima Antlers
  • 2017 - Winner - Real Madrid / 2nd place Grêmio
  • 2018 - Winner - Real Madrid  / 2nd place Al Ain
  • 2019 - Winner - Liverpool / 2nd place Flamengo
  • 2020 - Winner - Bayer / 2nd place Tigres
  • 2021 - Winner - Chelsea/ 2nd place Palmeiras

So, in, 2013, 2016, 2018 and 2020 South Americans were eliminated in Semi Finals


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January 14, 2023, 08:48:10 PM
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Fifa already made the draw for the matches yesterday.

Al-Hilal SFC
Wydad AC
Seattle Sounders FC
CR Flamengo
Auckland City FC
Real Madrid
Al Ahly SC

The championship starts on February 1st and ends on February 11th

Do you think it will be easy for Real Madrid to win another world cup?
I always hope to see a team outside Europe to win, but it will be hard, maybe Flamengo can play in a high level to try.
The format gives too much of an advantage to the European teams as there is almost no competition and they only have to win two games to be crowned champions, now I am not denying their quality is many times above their competitors due to the huge amount of money paid by European clubs, but I think this is something FIFA should actually look to improve, and personally I hope that at some point in the future the FIFA world cup for clubs get the same format as the regular world cup, the European clubs will still dominate but at least the tournament will be way more exciting.
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January 15, 2023, 11:11:28 AM
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The format gives too much of an advantage to the European teams as there is almost no competition and they only have to win two games to be crowned champions, now I am not denying their quality is many times above their competitors due to the huge amount of money paid by European clubs, but I think this is something FIFA should actually look to improve, and personally I hope that at some point in the future the FIFA world cup for clubs get the same format as the regular world cup, the European clubs will still dominate but at least the tournament will be way more exciting.

Not only Europeans but South Americans, both starts at semi finals, while other teams need to play 1 or 2 more matches, this is not fair.
But FIFA will change that, not only the number of matches but the whole World Cup, this is probably the last one in current format.

To 2025 Club World Cup FIFA will probably do the same format as World Cup, with 32 teams and each 4 years, and of course Europeans will have more spots, followed by South Americans.
Maybe with this new format the European clubs will value the World Cup more, because besides being more difficult and more desired, it will certainly have a higher prize pool than now.



I tried to find the odds for the championship, but there's nothing yet, of course Real Madrid is favorite, followed by Flamengo.
If there is a final between Flamengo and Real, I'll probably bet on Flamengo, depending on the odds.

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January 15, 2023, 11:22:52 AM
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Participating Teams

Al-Hilal SFC
Wydad AC
Seattle Sounders FC
CR Flamengo
Auckland City FC
Real Madrid
Al Ahly SC

The championship starts on February 1st and ends on February 11th

Do you think it will be easy for Real Madrid to win another world cup?
I always hope to see a team outside Europe to win, but it will be hard, maybe Flamengo can play in a high level to try.
Among all the teams listed in the OP , I only know about Real Madrid, the other names are all strange to me, Maybe this is because i am not actually that much into football games that are outside the normal world cup, like the one that just ended in Qatar last year..

Real Madrid being a popular team and one I've watched several of their matches, I would definitely agree that the cup might be an easy win for them, this is personal opinion though, like I said, I've never watched other teams on the list play, except for Real Madrid, I do have limited knowledge and also limited view to predict accurately .

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Of course, Real Madrid is the undisputed favorite to win the club WC, for him this year, it seems to me there are no problems to win the trophy for the fifth time if you just look at the list of participating teams.
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Of course, Real Madrid is the undisputed favorite to win the club WC, for him this year, it seems to me there are no problems to win the trophy for the fifth time if you just look at the list of participating teams.
it doesn't seem like there are even opponents that are on par, there aren't even any seeded clubs on that list, yes, of course, real madrid can dominate this WC event, although we also don't need to underestimate all the existing clubs, but everyone is sure that real madrid is the most favored to win the WC  Wink

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January 16, 2023, 04:51:58 PM
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Among all the teams listed in the OP , I only know about Real Madrid, the other names are all strange to me, Maybe this is because i am not actually that much into football games that are outside the normal world cup, like the one that just ended in Qatar last year..

Real Madrid being a popular team and one I've watched several of their matches, I would definitely agree that the cup might be an easy win for them, this is personal opinion though, like I said, I've never watched other teams on the list play, except for Real Madrid, I do have limited knowledge and also limited view to predict accurately .

I don't know about your whole knowledge of football, but I think you may have heard of Flamengo, the most popular team in Brazil with more than 40 million fans  Shocked
Zico is the most famous player of Flamengo. I think Flamengo is the second favorite.


Of course, Real Madrid is the undisputed favorite to win the club WC, for him this year, it seems to me there are no problems to win the trophy for the fifth time if you just look at the list of participating teams.

In my opinion, Flamengo has real chances to play at the same level of Real Madrid.

it doesn't seem like there are even opponents that are on par, there aren't even any seeded clubs on that list, yes, of course, real madrid can dominate this WC event, although we also don't need to underestimate all the existing clubs, but everyone is sure that real madrid is the most favored to win the WC  Wink

You guys only believe in Real Madrid hahaha, but I don't blame you, just give a chance to see Flamengo and you can be surprised.



Some news:
It is confirmed now the Club World Cup will take place in these two cities: Rabat and Tangier
Source: https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/president/news/draw-determines-seven-sides-paths-to-fifa-club-world-cup-glory

It's weird to not chose Marrakech

And here's a table for you guys to become more familiar with the teams and their home countries



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Op please put more highlights on this thread, I am really confused about the
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2022 FIFA Club World Cup - Morocco
, you are talking about world cup but I am seeing teams in club side.

Well let me still answer your question. As for Real Madrid, they would not win the game because their team in this season is not encouraging but they will go far and not the final of the tournament. Really I have not seen this tournament before.

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Op please put more highlights on this thread, I am really confused about the
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2022 FIFA Club World Cup - Morocco
, you are talking about world cup but I am seeing teams in club side.

Well let me still answer your question. As for Real Madrid, they would not win the game because their team in this season is not encouraging but they will go far and not the final of the tournament. Really I have not seen this tournament before.

What's wrong with the title?
I checked again, but it's all right  Cheesy

This is the World Cup for Clubs, it's the official tournament organised by FIFA

Look: https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/tournaments/mens/fifa-club-world-cup/morocco-2022

This is the official title too:


Source

Here you can find more info about: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_Club_World_Cup
If you don't know it yet, it is worth to check, the semi-finals and the grand finale are very exciting to watch.

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January 16, 2023, 05:31:23 PM
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Of course, Real Madrid is the undisputed favorite to win the club WC, for him this year, it seems to me there are no problems to win the trophy for the fifth time if you just look at the list of participating teams.
madrid and Flamengo don't need to play from the start, both are special and will play directly in the semifinals, while for the other teams have to play from the beginning to be able to advance to the next round and challenge last year's club world cup champions

I also agree with you, they will not be able to beat Real Madrid and it has been a long time since a club from Europe has continued to win the World Cup between clubs

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I think based on the names there it won't be that difficult for Real Madrid to win this FIFA Club World Cup this time,the only difficult team if I can call it like that maybe is Flamengo but they did not excel in their Brazilian Serie A if I recall correctly.All other teams like Seattle from the USA,Al Ahly from Egypt and the others I think are no match for Real Madrid.

I think that they don't need to be that extra motivated,the team difference in quality with all other team is big and the only one as I said who can give Real problems is Flamengo,nevertheless I am not expecting them also to not be a big deal for Real Madrid,if Real Madrid does not win this it would be a real shame for them.

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To 2025 Club World Cup FIFA will probably do the same format as World Cup, with 32 teams and each 4 years, and of course Europeans will have more spots, followed by South Americans.
Maybe with this new format the European clubs will value the World Cup more, because besides being more difficult and more desired, it will certainly have a higher prize pool than now.
This caught my attention as I never heard about it before. Just googled it a bit and this news is confirmed, which the very first edition likely would be played in the US in 2025, a year before the world cup there. But since arranging schedule for clubs is much harder and more complicated than for national teams, I think FIFA will need longer time to arrange it properly. It would also make the world cup for national team loss its value a little bit, because the player will have two options to win a world tournament.

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I think based on the names there it won't be that difficult for Real Madrid to win this FIFA Club World Cup this time,the only difficult team if I can call it like that maybe is Flamengo but they did not excel in their Brazilian Serie A if I recall correctly.All other teams like Seattle from the USA,Al Ahly from Egypt and the others I think are no match for Real Madrid.

I think that they don't need to be that extra motivated,the team difference in quality with all other team is big and the only one as I said who can give Real problems is Flamengo,nevertheless I am not expecting them also to not be a big deal for Real Madrid,if Real Madrid does not win this it would be a real shame for them.
No doubt European teams have been dominant in this competition for more than a decade and Real Madrid are surely going to be winners but football sometimes can be unpredictable and history might just repeat itself eleven years ago. It was 2012, i last saw a winner from a different continent in this competition which was the final between Chelsea and Corinthians when a winning goal came when the Corinthians player paolo guerrero headed the ball into the net and secure a win for the South American champions. This was their second titles and they claim it in the hands of an European team. So i just wish the competition would get a little more interesting  by seeing another team winning the trophy this time around and the only team i feel can challenge this Madrid side is only flamengo but they too have not been in their best form recently so i think the title is just going to come back to Europe.

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To 2025 Club World Cup FIFA will probably do the same format as World Cup, with 32 teams and each 4 years, and of course Europeans will have more spots, followed by South Americans.
Maybe with this new format the European clubs will value the World Cup more, because besides being more difficult and more desired, it will certainly have a higher prize pool than now.
This caught my attention as I never heard about it before. Just googled it a bit and this news is confirmed, which the very first edition likely would be played in the US in 2025, a year before the world cup there. But since arranging schedule for clubs is much harder and more complicated than for national teams, I think FIFA will need longer time to arrange it properly. It would also make the world cup for national team loss its value a little bit, because the player will have two options to win a world tournament.
The current format leaves a lot to be desired as there is not really too much of a competition taking place as the sole European club has too much of an advantage over the rest of the teams, and it is because of this that it does not garner too much attention at all as the quality of play is also low, however with the change in the format in the tournament planned for 2025 it is going to become way more interesting, but while FIFA is ready to support this format it seems it has not been approved yet by the confederations, however I would suppose Infantino would not have made this proposal without having enough support within FIFA to get the necessary approval.
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I think based on the names there it won't be that difficult for Real Madrid to win this FIFA Club World Cup this time,the only difficult team if I can call it like that maybe is Flamengo but they did not excel in their Brazilian Serie A if I recall correctly.All other teams like Seattle from the USA,Al Ahly from Egypt and the others I think are no match for Real Madrid.

I think that they don't need to be that extra motivated,the team difference in quality with all other team is big and the only one as I said who can give Real problems is Flamengo,nevertheless I am not expecting them also to not be a big deal for Real Madrid,if Real Madrid does not win this it would be a real shame for them.

Just like Flamengo, Real Madrid doesn't seem to be in the best form either, but they are undoubtedly the favorite.
But it's nice to see different clubs playing, South American vs Europe.

This caught my attention as I never heard about it before. Just googled it a bit and this news is confirmed, which the very first edition likely would be played in the US in 2025, a year before the world cup there. But since arranging schedule for clubs is much harder and more complicated than for national teams, I think FIFA will need longer time to arrange it properly. It would also make the world cup for national team loss its value a little bit, because the player will have two options to win a world tournament.

Sometimes the best news are here hehehe. As far as I know this is the last championship before the new format in 2025, so it's 2 years to prepare and FIFA is already doing the modifications on calendar to fit it.
It is a very difficult task to synchronize all football calendars worldwide.

No doubt European teams have been dominant in this competition for more than a decade and Real Madrid are surely going to be winners but football sometimes can be unpredictable and history might just repeat itself eleven years ago. It was 2012, i last saw a winner from a different continent in this competition which was the final between Chelsea and Corinthians when a winning goal came when the Corinthians player paolo guerrero headed the ball into the net and secure a win for the South American champions. This was their second titles and they claim it in the hands of an European team. So i just wish the competition would get a little more interesting  by seeing another team winning the trophy this time around and the only team i feel can challenge this Madrid side is only flamengo but they too have not been in their best form recently so i think the title is just going to come back to Europe.

Corinhians won the Fifa club world cup twice  Grin
In 2000 and 2012 - (in 2000 Corinthians played against Real Madrid and the match ended in a draw 2x2)
It's the only south american to win twice.

The current format leaves a lot to be desired as there is not really too much of a competition taking place as the sole European club has too much of an advantage over the rest of the teams, and it is because of this that it does not garner too much attention at all as the quality of play is also low, however with the change in the format in the tournament planned for 2025 it is going to become way more interesting, but while FIFA is ready to support this format it seems it has not been approved yet by the confederations, however I would suppose Infantino would not have made this proposal without having enough support within FIFA to get the necessary approval.

European clubs usually don't like to play the Club World Cup, they give more value to UCL than World Cup, they prefer and focus all on national championship and UCL, while south americans like to dispute all championships available.
Some years ago in Brazil, clubs disputed something like 6 championships in a year. Now it's 4.
Like I said above, Fifa is trying to sync the calendar.



The champion of the World Cup will earn US$ 5 million, while the second will earn US$ 4 million
Conmebol said if Flamengo win the cup, they will receive another US$ 5 million from the confederation, so there's a lot in play to Flamengo, I suspect they are more motivated than Real Madrid hahaha.

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Op please put more highlights on this thread, I am really confused about the
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2022 FIFA Club World Cup - Morocco
, you are talking about world cup but I am seeing teams in club side.

Well let me still answer your question. As for Real Madrid, they would not win the game because their team in this season is not encouraging but they will go far and not the final of the tournament. Really I have not seen this tournament before.

I can see you are very confused here lol. At first you said you have not heard of this tournament before. I am just imagining the confusion in your head Grin. You saw fifa World Cup and saw Morroco and then saw club like real madrid.  And then your confusion rose again.

Now you have understood what fifa club World Cup means, will you still say that Madrid will perform well?

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January 19, 2023, 05:20:34 PM
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The current format leaves a lot to be desired as there is not really too much of a competition taking place as the sole European club has too much of an advantage over the rest of the teams, and it is because of this that it does not garner too much attention at all as the quality of play is also low, however with the change in the format in the tournament planned for 2025 it is going to become way more interesting, but while FIFA is ready to support this format it seems it has not been approved yet by the confederations, however I would suppose Infantino would not have made this proposal without having enough support within FIFA to get the necessary approval.
Well I dont think it will get more attention by changing the format, because the winner will always be from europe. Beside that, it will impact the players themselves, which their risk to get injured would be much higher. I think FIFA only trying to get more monies from sponsorship, after seeing UEFA able to create Nations League and Conference League.


Sometimes the best news are here hehehe. As far as I know this is the last championship before the new format in 2025, so it's 2 years to prepare and FIFA is already doing the modifications on calendar to fit it.
It is a very difficult task to synchronize all football calendars worldwide.
Yeah but 2 years is still not enough I suppose lol. They still need to think about the qualification and playoff system for the teams besides the tournament itself, which it would take another schedule for teams to play that. The shortest way is to take 4 teams that played in the semifinal of their main competition in each confederation. But it will be unfair to UEFA that have many high quality teams if they are allowed to send 4 clubs only. Uhm there is a lot things to do for FIFA and I dont think 2 years is enough Embarrassed

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January 19, 2023, 06:50:56 PM
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Fifa already made the draw for the matches yesterday.


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Al-Hilal SFC
Wydad AC
Seattle Sounders FC
CR Flamengo
Auckland City FC
Real Madrid
Al Ahly SC

The championship starts on February 1st and ends on February 11th

Do you think it will be easy for Real Madrid to win another world cup?
I always hope to see a team outside Europe to win, but it will be hard, maybe Flamengo can play in a high level to try.
Sure, Real Madrid is formidable, and they probably will win another Club World Cup. The last nine tournaments have all been won by European teams. It would be refreshing to see a team from another continent win for a change. Who doesn't enjoy an underdog triumph? Perhaps if teams like South America's Flamengo or North America's Seattle Sounders FC improved, they could challenge Spain's Real Madrid. It's fascinating to witness the skills and abilities of teams from all around the world as they battle against one another. Let's hope it's a thrilling and close tournament! Europe needs to be destroyed

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