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[arallmuus]

It would be cool to sell shares and percentage of club ownership, so we can share profits together if I own 51% of club I receive 51% of reward and other owner receives 49% reward.

Well things like this would be pretty cool actually but I think this could only be done if you know the other owner personally otherwise it would be quite a hassle especially when determining which one of you would answer the questions for the round

I am never selling my glorious club for anything less than 100 mBTC.

Mine for atleast 50 mbtc lol

I hope I dont get relegated next season after I wrote this 

Based on the feedback on this club selling thing, I guess I am in minority and we might actually see it implemented from the next season. 

Why dont you like this ? I personally think its great addition though

[buwaytress]

Happy to consider fixed term club swaps. As in, swap clubs for a fee but only for one, or two seasons. So if it's a one season deal, you get my spot in Div1, I get your spot in whichever Div you're in. At the end of the season, we swap back our clubs. If CRO2 allows that kind of deal of course heh.

This means a cheaper fee -- and perhaps a way for you to promote anyway (if I manage to get your team promoted). It's a risk to me too, since you might get relegated

Anyone with offers, please let me know.

Im tired of see a lot of "tipsters" who are pure fraud for sure and they dont have any back up to real show us if they are really good in waht they are doing, we have something like that here, but we dont capitalized that i thing. I know im going some little out of the main topic but i think is correlated.

About the divisions, for me the div 4 needs to be set up asap.

I don't think it's off topic. I personally have asked "tipsters" to participate in our contests, pools and BSFL. And in my mind, it's a no-brainer. If you're really that good, you should have no problem competing with regular gamblers.

In fact, I think it's a great advertisement for tipsters to come in and do well, proof of their supposed abilities.

[ralle14]

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I still can't believe the team wasted so many points in the second half of the season. 

Why dont you like this ? I personally think its great addition though

Same, I had mixed feelings about the idea after reading it the first time, then the more I think about it the more it doesn't sound as bad.

[Trofo]

Happy to consider fixed term club swaps. As in, swap clubs for a fee but only for one, or two seasons. So if it's a one season deal, you get my spot in Div1, I get your spot in whichever Div you're in. At the end of the season, we swap back our clubs. If CRO2 allows that kind of deal of course heh.

First of all club selling isn't alowed yet. It will be implemented in Season 6 if the vote goes that way. Vote will be part of question form.

I don't see a problem with what you wrote if you trust the person.  But we will probably not take care of those details. Meaning we have no problem with you selling and buying back spot after one season but if that person doesn't want to sell back to you that is your problem. And both clubs will have higher league fees.

Could be we give more details about this to vote if first vote goes in favour and our idea changes over the season.

[Trofo]

Season 4 - Archival post

Division 1

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	Slissy	15	10	2	3	64	55	9	32
2	vd309	15	9	3	3	62	43	19	30
3	cls63	15	9	3	3	61	46	15	29
4	jayce	15	8	2	5	58	52	6	26
5	mv1986	15	8	2	5	54	42	12	24
6	chi20	15	7	3	5	52	45	7	24
7	notblox1	15	7	3	5	51	48	3	24
8	Trofo	15	7	2	6	59	52	7	23
9	darxiaomi	15	7	2	6	55	52	3	23
10	Harkorede	15	6	3	6	50	51	-1	21
11	buwaytress	15	6	2	7	55	55	0	20
12	leea-1334	15	6	1	8	44	50	-6	18
13	strongkored	15	4	4	7	56	63	-7	16
14	mitchr4	15	5	0	10	47	60	-13	15
15	slackovic	15	4	2	9	49	58	-9	14
16	casperBGD	15	0	0	15	0	45	-45	0

Division 2

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	Saint-loup	15	9	3	3	67	55	12	29
2	arallmuus	15	8	2	5	61	53	8	26
3	LTU_btc	15	8	2	5	50	46	4	26
4	slaman29	15	8	2	5	48	44	4	25
5	vivekdkhyani	15	7	3	5	60	53	7	24
6	imarios	15	7	3	5	55	53	2	24
7	cryptofrka	15	6	5	4	60	49	11	23
8	Jinetics1111	15	7	2	6	58	51	7	23
9	ralle14	15	6	4	5	50	50	0	22
10	jeremypwr	15	7	2	6	52	55	-3	22
11	ulven	15	7	1	7	57	54	3	20
12	hakan2217	15	5	3	7	53	52	1	18
13	Renato297	15	4	5	6	52	54	-2	17
14	Hhampuz	15	5	2	8	54	68	-14	17
15	Igebotz	15	4	1	10	48	63	-15	13
16	dbshck	15	1	2	12	37	62	-25	3

Division 3A

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	Kokee44	11	8	1	2	44	29	15	24
2	entebah	11	7	3	1	41	30	11	24
3	Rikafip	11	8	0	3	41	31	10	24
4	B1g4udge	11	6	2	3	46	31	15	20
5	Dittoup	11	6	1	4	35	34	1	19
6	execijutiere	11	5	2	4	48	34	14	17
7	Omikifuse	11	4	2	5	33	35	-2	14
8	Kara.aa1	11	4	1	6	31	39	-8	13
9	yassinmanai	11	3	3	5	34	35	-1	11
10	CharafChenina	11	3	2	6	25	37	-12	9
11	BitcoinHunt3r	11	2	3	6	27	37	-10	7
12	navidart	11	0	0	11	0	33	-33	0

Division 3B

•POS•	••Username••••	•PLD•	•W•	•D•	•L•	•SF•	•SA•	•SD•	•PTS•
1	shogun47	10	8	0	2	33	20	13	23
2	Patikno	10	7	0	3	40	29	11	21
3	goodpunt	10	6	1	3	35	26	9	19
4	bullrun2020bro	10	6	1	3	34	31	3	19
5	MAAManda	10	4	3	3	28	22	6	14
6	ILuckyGuyI	10	5	0	5	30	29	1	14
7	Spack17	10	4	1	5	29	27	2	12
8	Woodie	10	4	1	5	27	30	-3	11
9	LFC_Bitcoin	10	3	2	5	31	37	-6	10
10	famososMuertos	10	3	1	6	32	38	-6	9
11	Placeholder B	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0
12	PedroCunhaYori	10	0	0	10	0	30	-30	0

W - Games Won, L - Games Lost, D - Games Drawn
POS - League Position, SD - Score Difference, SF - Score For
SA - Score Against, PLD - Games Played, PTS - Points Earned



Penalty Points and VAR table
-all penalty points are already added to main league tables



Season 4: Rounds 1-8 Results


Season 4: Rounds 9-15 Results


Spreadsheet with your answers can be found here.

We will keep track of all the questions here.

League:

Round 1 questions - deadline Mar 5th, 18:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 2 questions - deadline Mar 12th, 18:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 3 questions - deadline Mar 19th, 18:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 4 questions - deadline Mar 26th, 18:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 5 questions - deadline Apr 2nd, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 6 questions - deadline Apr 9th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 7 questions - deadline Apr 16th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 8 questions - deadline Apr 30th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 9 questions - deadline May 7th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 10 questions - deadline May 21st, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 11 questions - deadline May 28th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 12 questions - deadline Jun 4th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 13 questions - deadline Jun 11th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 14 questions - deadline Jun 25th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 15 questions - deadline Jul 2nd, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED

______________________________________________

Cup finals:
Dittoup - execijutiere

3rd place Cup playoff:
Harkorede - Ulven

Division 1 playoff:
strongkored - slaman29

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Cup:

Qualifiers and Round 1 questions - deadline Apr 23rd, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Round 2 & Round 3 questions - deadline May 14th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Semifinals - deadline Jun 18th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Finals - deadline Jul 9th, 17:00 GMT (forum time) - CLOSED
Finals extra questions - deadline Jul 13th, 20:00 GMT (forum time) - OPEN

Cup schedule will be updated here.

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Full league schedule for Season 4 can be seen here (2 posts in a row).

[Igebotz]

Happy to consider fixed term club swaps. As in, swap clubs for a fee but only for one, or two seasons. So if it's a one season deal, you get my spot in Div1, I get your spot in whichever Div you're in. At the end of the season, we swap back our clubs. If CRO2 allows that kind of deal of course heh.

First of all club selling isn't alowed yet. It will be implemented in Season 6 if the vote goes that way. Vote will be part of question form.

I don't see a problem with what you wrote if you trust the person.  But we will probably not take care of those details. Meaning we have no problem with you selling and buying back spot after one season but if that person doesn't want to sell back to you that is your problem. And both clubs will have higher league fees.

Could be we give more details about this to vote if first vote goes in favour and our idea changes over the season.

Nothing was mentioned about the position prize - if I swap a team with you and finish in a good position who takes the prize money? The original club owner or the rentee ? This could be very interesting addition and I'm honestly looking forward to it. Looks like we're going to have a lot of modifications and New Rules in season 6.

[Trofo]

Happy to consider fixed term club swaps. As in, swap clubs for a fee but only for one, or two seasons. So if it's a one season deal, you get my spot in Div1, I get your spot in whichever Div you're in. At the end of the season, we swap back our clubs. If CRO2 allows that kind of deal of course heh.

First of all club selling isn't alowed yet. It will be implemented in Season 6 if the vote goes that way. Vote will be part of question form.

I don't see a problem with what you wrote if you trust the person.  But we will probably not take care of those details. Meaning we have no problem with you selling and buying back spot after one season but if that person doesn't want to sell back to you that is your problem. And both clubs will have higher league fees.

Could be we give more details about this to vote if first vote goes in favour and our idea changes over the season.

Nothing was mentioned about the position prize - if I swap a team with you and finish in a good position who takes the prize money? The original club owner or the rentee ? This could be very interesting addition and I'm honestly looking forward to it. Looks like we're going to have a lot of modifications and New Rules in season 6.

It is not renting it is buying. You buy or sell the club and that is it. New owner pays all the fees and collects all rewards. Club isn't yours anymore.

But we are not actually selling clubs, we are selling league positions since clubs are same as our usernames.

[cryptofrka]

About the divisions, for me the div 4 needs to be set up asap.

Although I do agree it would be better to have it immediately, it would not be totally fair to some people we would have to relegate to Div4 in this season.
We feel it's better to have one transitional season before we start with the new rules.

I understand that you see it as a sort of amateur league, but the f2p model and minimal reward system will probably lead to people taking the competition too lightly, missing submission deadlines, and eventually getting kicked out and this will ultimately create more work for you. Then again, I am sure that you are aware of that.

Yeah, it's like that in every game/competition though. No real way to tackle it for people that don't have a long-term outlook.
We're thinking about the club selling as a good way to maybe keep them interested. Imagine that you are in Div3 and you get kicked out - would you pay 1mBTC for a Div3 club? Well, maybe - so hopefully some guys will farm for that. There is also LMS and the Cup, not much more we can do with the reward pool that we have, which is quite significant for a 3-4 month competition when you take it all into account.

As always, we'll track what happens down there. But even if Division 4 gets dismantled, we'll still have 3 full paid leagues with 56 players - so we're almost there with what we planned when we started BSFL.

It would be cool to sell shares and percentage of club ownership, so we can share profits together if I own 51% of club I receive 51% of reward and other owner receives 49% reward.

You can make all kinds of individual deals, just be careful that there is nothing we can do if things go south. This would be too much work for us but if you trust the guy on the other side of the deal - sure, no problem for us.

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Regarding the swaps - we need to see how it would work. As Trofo said, let's see the votes first and then we have a full season to make the best possible method of selling/renting/swapping clubs.

[Harkorede]

Now that’s some real buzz and activity going on here, and actually it’s beginning to feel like the two weeks break is actually too short, I’m already getting overwhelmed by the fact hat I’ll on a race against time very soon again. 🥴🥴🤒

[notblox1]

Well things like this would be pretty cool actually but I think this could only be done if you know the other owner personally otherwise it would be quite a hassle especially when determining which one of you would answer the questions for the round

I have to think more about this but we can use trusted escrow to lock funds until release date, so I am not afraid on anyone scamming me.
If anyone is willing to pay the money than they are putting their reputation on the line, and I am not doing any business with newbies.
Another interesting idea is for someone to own more than one club 

You can make all kinds of individual deals, just be careful that there is nothing we can do if things go south. This would be too much work for us but if you trust the guy on the other side of the deal - sure, no problem for us.

Now we dont have official sheriff to monitor everything, but you hire some cheap workers to do all the hard work for you 

[Igebotz]

Nothing was mentioned about the position prize - if I swap a team with you and finish in a good position who takes the prize money? The original club owner or the rentee ? This could be very interesting addition and I'm honestly looking forward to it. Looks like we're going to have a lot of modifications and New Rules in season 6.

It is not renting it is buying. You buy or sell the club and that is it. New owner pays all the fees and collects all rewards. Club isn't yours anymore.

But we are not actually selling clubs, we are selling league positions since clubs are same as our usernames.

The Cro2 team can actually do the change of team name after purchase? This way the seller can restart again from Div 4. Rinse and repeat.

[CLS63]

I think that selling spots is going to increase the interest in lower leagues as well. For example if I sell my team next season I'm going to try to be competitive when I start from the lowest league as well. In this way I think that the quality in lower leagues will also increase. If we look at the comments on the thread, I guess the majority is leaning towards this idea quite much. 

[Slissy]

@Slissy and @Trofo sidebetting, who wants 0.5 mbtc similar to that? Above me win, below me lose.

This must be free money😁 Are you still accepting? If I lose, you win 1 mbtc and if you lose, then i win 0.5 mbtc! good deal for you😁 I have faith in my team 😁

I like this new opportunity to sell our spots, I hope everyone votes for this😁

I think jeremypwr will come higher than slackovic in the table on season 5.. Anyone down for a 2 mbtc side bet on that?😁

[Harkorede]

I think that selling spots is going to increase the interest in lower leagues as well. For example if I sell my team next season I'm going to try to be competitive when I start from the lowest league as well. In this way I think that the quality in lower leagues will also increase. If we look at the comments on the thread, I guess the majority is leaning towards this idea quite much. 

It will drive competition to its peak imo, and I don't imagine some paying 30-50 mBTC failing to make a submission, I understand there are always unforeseen circumstances in play, but it is going to reduce a lot where there is lot at stake and then like some mentioned it is going to make a BSFL team rather more like an asset and would drive more value across to the entire league or even forum imo.

[Woodie]

Feeling pretty good about this season to come, no more late entries that cost me alot in S04

Selling your spots?

Will this have restrictions like only selling a spot to users of the same division or will this be open to all?

By the way once a place is sold to a player on the log does that mean the league will run with a man down throughout??

Still on the selling of a spot, will users be allowed to trade places

Anyway, let's wait for the POll to decide on the future of season 5...

[cryptofrka]

I think jeremypwr will come higher than slackovic in the table on season 5.. Anyone down for a 2 mbtc side bet on that?😁

Wanna bet against me? You say jeremypwr, I go with myself. 2mBTC sounds ok

Selling your spots?

Will this have restrictions like only selling a spot to users of the same division or will this be open to all?

By the way once a place is sold to a player on the log does that mean the league will run with a man down throughout??

Still on the selling of a spot, will users be allowed to trade places

Anyway, let's wait for the POll to decide on the future of season 5...

No restrictions, we want to make it easy for all members that want to buy their way up be able to do so.
Stuck in Div 3 for a while? Pay and up you go. Wanna join but don't want to go to Div4? Sure, you can do that too.

The league wouldn't have a guy less, the highest placed one from the league below that didn't earn promotion would be promoted.

Trading places is something we have to thoroughly discuss, we will do that if the poll says yes - which seems likely.

[Trofo]

Ok guys, this is it. Sign ups for season 5 are closed. Anyone else that signs up from now on will be playing with us from Season 6 and will be placed in Division 4.
I will be making leagues and random draw of Divison 3 during the day and then it will be public.

Season 5
Div 1 & 2 - 16 teams
Div 3 - 30 teams split in two subdivisions

[slaman29]

My club selling price is 5 mbtc, but I need to speak about different terms.

If you are selling I want to buy it for 5 mbtc right away. It sounds nice to invest in BSFL with the money came from fantasy last year.

I would sell for this price yes but I wanted 50% of any profits for first 3 years:P It's the cheapest pricetag among everybody, but that is also my extra term I want.

Anyway thou that for Season 6 now as I read all the responses. But it seems everyone agrees so lets see again next season @Spack17

[jeremypwr]

I think jeremypwr will come higher than slackovic in the table on season 5.. Anyone down for a 2 mbtc side bet on that?😁

LOL, I see what you did there 

[buwaytress]

I think jeremypwr will come higher than slackovic in the table on season 5.. Anyone down for a 2 mbtc side bet on that?😁

LOL, I see what you did there 

How about a sidebet. I will take any Div4 player to finish better than casperBGD (sorry bro).

Only got free money from Trofo and cryptofrka on promotions of LFC_Bitcoin and Igebotz. Need more guaranteed satoshi to celebrate Season 5