🏁🏎️ Sportsbet.io🏁 FORMULA 1 2024 Season🏁🏎️Prediction Pool Discussion Thread

[darxiaomi]

I missed badly the qualy, im so busy so i cant put so much attention into anything. I also dont put my pick in the Superbru.

Well in the end nothing change Verstappen and RedBUll keeps dominating, Ferrari seems like they found something, but you know its Ferrari never trust in them so much.

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[CLS63]

The upgrade has really worked for Ferrari very much seemingly.    Leclerc could have nearly captured pole position from Verstappen's hands. Taking 2nd and 3rd places is still great for Ferrari to reach their targets for this race. Leclerc has surely a chance to be competitive for being the winner. But it is still difficult to say that he can do this during the whole race.

Because Verstappen still hints it shouldn't be forgotten how fast he is. Ferrari will need a solid strategy to be able to improve their chance of beating Verstappen for the victory.

Besides I predicted Perez to take pole position but he couldn't even make it to Q3.    Many times his lap time was removed due to pushing too hard at the same turns. Red Bull must be running out of patience for him after another failure.

[1miau]

Besides I predicted Perez to take pole position but he couldn't even make it to Q3.    Many times his lap time was removed due to pushing too hard at the same turns. Red Bull must be running out of patience for him after another failure.

Yes, it's really sad to see Perez having such bad luck again. On his Q2 laps, he has been really quick but why didn't he get a safe lap in to qualify in Q2? He had 3 laps, all of them getting deleted due to track limits, so I would expect him, after getting 2 laps deleted to set a safe lap but no, on all his Q2 laps, he pushed too much in the same corner and got track limits for this.
Verstappen had his first lap deleted as well but Verstappen managed it much better.

Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here: 



In my opinion, the odds are very nice because it'll be very difficult for Perez to get a podium here. He's starting from P15 and would need to overtake Russell, Hamilton, Alonso, one Ferrari and a whole bunch of midfielders to get a podium unless no crash happens. Odds are really good in my opinion.

And speaking about good odds: Ferrari both cars podium finish is at @8.00 odds currently. Considering Leclerc and Sainz are starting from 2nd and 3rd position, while only Norris is behind them, who will be blocking traffic for a while, these odds are looking really valuable:



I've not taken the second bet so far, because we all know how Ferrari is struggling sometimes but @8.00 is really interesting odds.
Opinions?

I wonder how will the bookies interpret it,will they raise the odd for Verstappen,I highly doubt it as if I were them I would still give him that 1.39-1.45 that he has had during all these last races.

Sportsbet.io is having a Verstappen race win @1.22 
So, bookmakers don't see any real chance for Leclerc to win, unless Verstappen has a mechanical issue or a very bad start.

[casperBGD]

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In my opinion, the odds are very nice because it'll be very difficult for Perez to get a podium here. He's starting from P15 and would need to overtake Russell, Hamilton, Alonso, one Ferrari and a whole bunch of midfielders to get a podium unless no crash happens. Odds are really good in my opinion.

agree here, it is basically odds for Perez not to finish on podium, and it is really good, can't see him overtaking that many cars during the race, he will need 10+ laps just to overtake mid teams, and then will have some non-negliglibe time to recover against top3, or to say 3 driver

1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know

[coinlocket$]

Perez can easily get a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.


The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.

[Ulven]

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In my opinion, the odds are very nice because it'll be very difficult for Perez to get a podium here. He's starting from P15 and would need to overtake Russell, Hamilton, Alonso, one Ferrari and a whole bunch of midfielders to get a podium unless no crash happens. Odds are really good in my opinion.

agree here, it is basically odds for Perez not to finish on podium, and it is really good, can't see him overtaking that many cars during the race, he will need 10+ laps just to overtake mid teams, and then will have some non-negliglibe time to recover against top3, or to say 3 driver

1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know

Well, it seems like you've analyzed the situation thoroughly and have a clear opinion on Sergio Perez's chances. Betting odds can be quite intriguing, and sometimes they do make you wonder if the bookies know something we don't. But hey, in Formula One, anything can happen, so let's see if Perez surprises us all and makes a miraculous climb up the ranks. In the meantime, enjoy the excitement of the race and may the odds be ever in your favor!!!

[CLS63]

Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here: 

I think it is quite a sensible bet to make. Perez is really unstable here as well. He seemed way better in the sprint race today though but this is still not changing the fact that he is starting from way back of the grid. It is too difficult for him to climb until reaching podium. Even if they get very close to it I don't think he would comfortably overtake a Ferrari driver.

It will again depend on Ferrari's preparing the right strategies just as they did in Canada. If there is no issue there then both Ferrari drivers seem quite likely to finish on podium.

The sprint race was lovely by the way thanks to wet track. But I'm afraid the track will be dry tomorrow according to weather report.

[boltz]

I missed badly the qualy, im so busy so i cant put so much attention into anything. I also dont put my pick in the Superbru.

Well in the end nothing change Verstappen and RedBUll keeps dominating, Ferrari seems like they found something, but you know its Ferrari never trust in them so much.

Yep , Ferrari found a way to improve qualifying times but as soon as the race starts , the cars still lacks pace , performance and a lot more so I think Ferrari is trying to maximize their qualifiers and then try to have a different strategy in race than Mercedes or Aston that could bring them podiums and tomorrow we will see if this strategy will work and Sainz will manage to keep his 3rd position against both of Aston Martin. 

[1miau]

1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know

Maybe bookmakers expected Perez to be a bit better, at least close to Max because today, we have seen how impressive Red Bull can perform (but only Max). Perez still managed to score 2nd place in Sprint race but Verstappen had a huge lead, over 20 seconds, while Sainz was still close behind Perez. Perez didn't manage to create a gap to Sainz, so overtaking for him in traffic tomorrow will be difficult. Maybe we'll get some rain and Perez can make up more places by a chaotic race but right now, it's looking dry for tomorrow.

At least, we had a fantastic sprint race today. Amazing performance from Hulkenberg one more lap and he gains even more positions but still great result for him.

And yes, I agree, odds of 1.60 are more reasonable, maybe even 1.50.
Now, after Sprint race, odds are down to 1.52:



Still very good odds in my opinion because I don't see Perez making a podium here and then, there's always a possibility for a Verstappen DNF due to a collission or technical issues.

Perez can easily get a podium here.

Perez is in a RedBull but he's not Verstappen. 
So far, Perez never has achieved a podium this season, when he started outside of the top 10:
Canada = started P12, finished P6
Spain = started P11, finished P4
Monaco = started P20, finished P16
Australia = started P20, finished P5

So, I don't expect an easy podium for him in Austria.
He will need a really god performance and a bit luck to achieve a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.

It's probably his best chance but he also needs to get some early overtakes or he's stuck behind midfielders while Ferrari, Aston Martin and Mercedes will pull a gap quickly. Without Safety Car or red flag, it'll be very unlikely to get past P5.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.

And overtake. 

Well, it seems like you've analyzed the situation thoroughly and have a clear opinion on Sergio Perez's chances. Betting odds can be quite intriguing, and sometimes they do make you wonder if the bookies know something we don't. But hey, in Formula One, anything can happen, so let's see if Perez surprises us all and makes a miraculous climb up the ranks.

Yes, I've still Perez on Superbru on podium, not sure if changing it is a good move but I'll decide tomorrow, if changing picks is a good idea or not.

Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here: 

I think it is quite a sensible bet to make. Perez is really unstable here as well. He seemed way better in the sprint race today though but this is still not changing the fact that he is starting from way back of the grid. It is too difficult for him to climb until reaching podium. Even if they get very close to it I don't think he would comfortably overtake a Ferrari driver.

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I can agree here 100%. Today, Perenz finished 2nd but he also started 2nd.
Despite having clean air and no spray due to rain (Verstappen was way ahead of him), Perez struggled to create a gap to Sainz. I just can't see how he's fast enough to overtake 11 cars tomorrow, unless no big crash happens, where for example both Ferraris and Hamilton are involved in. Instead of a Perez podium, a Perez disappointment seems to be more likely. 
Austria doesn't seem to be a track, Perez likes to drive at.

[CLS63]

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

For now McLaren can do a solid work in only qualifying sessions. But this is still progress for them. Now they need to focus on maintaining a high performance during a whole race. Today will be another chance for them to make it work in the race as well.

[casperBGD]

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Perez is in a RedBull but he's not Verstappen. 
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this is a point, going good is one thing, car is really important, but you have to be good driver too

one can see that especially now in RB with Max and Perez, but also with Alonso and Stroll, same car, performance completely different, Alonso looking for top3 on each race, Stroll can't reach point spot, finishing outside top10

nevertheless, Alonso don't have much chances to reach podium here, it was a tight last minutes in qualifying session, when Ferrari's good their spots

[boltz]

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

For now McLaren can do a solid work in only qualifying sessions. But this is still progress for them. Now they need to focus on maintaining a high performance during a whole race. Today will be another chance for them to make it work in the race as well.

That's what I'm hoping for today CLS! McLaren can show some big potential and great race pace today and my guess is that Piastri will have the best race in his F1 so far and already took a bet with him winning group 3 against Albon , Gasly and Ocon with a total of x11 odds.

I'm also thinking right now to place a bet with McLaren @both cars to finish in points at x4 odds because I do have faith in them today especially on this track.

[swogerino]

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

For now McLaren can do a solid work in only qualifying sessions. But this is still progress for them. Now they need to focus on maintaining a high performance during a whole race. Today will be another chance for them to make it work in the race as well.

That's what I'm hoping for today CLS! McLaren can show some big potential and great race pace today and my guess is that Piastri will have the best race in his F1 so far and already took a bet with him winning group 3 against Albon , Gasly and Ocon with a total of x11 odds.

I'm also thinking right now to place a bet with McLaren @both cars to finish in points at x4 odds because I do have faith in them today especially on this track.

I think that you have made the right bet and I don't know where these odds were as the best odd I got was to go for Ferrari most team points during the race of today at 6.00 which is not that bad.McLaren truly has upgraded their car every race more and their management have said that by the race of Silverstone they would show a completely new car,I think we are near that race and I am ready to see such wonderful performance,who knows just a bit of rain despite the weather not showing it in forecast can make the race really chaotic.

[1miau]

That's what I'm hoping for today CLS! McLaren can show some big potential and great race pace today and my guess is that Piastri will have the best race in his F1 so far and already took a bet with him winning group 3 against Albon , Gasly and Ocon with a total of x11 odds.

I'm also thinking right now to place a bet with McLaren @both cars to finish in points at x4 odds because I do have faith in them today especially on this track.

I agree, your bets really look like great value bets. Lando likes Austria but had a lot of bad luck in Sprint yesterday, where he lost many positions during RedBull's incident. I expect him to do much better today. McLaren  looks strong here, so maybe you can win at least one of your bets.
Good luck of course, it'll be an interesting race hopefully. 

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

Spain was very unfortunate for Lando, where he got damage on his car in the first corner and had to make a pit stop.
Maybe if he doesn't get damage early in the race, he could have scored nice points.

Lando really had some bad luck recently, also yesterday in Sprint race...

[swogerino]

A not so boring race,I was expecting a more boring one yet the fight in the lower levels made it somewhat not boring,this track thanks to being run half part of it in DRS means that it gave everyone a chance,of course Redbull is still on another planet as even a mediocre Perez who had a lot of difficulties to overtake Sainz who by the way for me is the driver of the day today for all those 5 laps that defended against the top car in a track where DRS as I said is open half of it.Ferrari had just some small upgrades from last time around while Aston Martin and Mercedes seem like they are losing ground with each passing race.Norris made also a super great race today.

[boltz]

Once again my loyalty towards Oscar doesn't pay off  and I've lost my bets but I still trust him and I still think that he will find a way during this season to get important points or who knows , maybe even having a podium out of nowhere but today the luck really passed him and it's well known for not having great starts but he is well known for making almost 0 mistakes and also have a strong race pace.

Ferrari instead have a strong race but once again their strategies lost a chance to actually let Sainz in front of Leclerc to fight Max but I really cannot understand what Ferrari is doing during the races.  

[Koal-84]

I would have seen Mercedes further ahead this race, but I was wrong, Mercedes was rather disappointing until Friday. The updates at Ferrari worked really well as already mentioned here, congratulations to cls63 and 1miau for a very strong 16 points each, Top

Ferrari instead have a strong race but once again their strategies lost a chance to actually let Sainz in front of Leclerc to fight Max but I really cannot understand what Ferrari is doing during the races. 

As I have mentioned here before, if the car works, Ferrari makes mistakes with the pit stops or with the strategy.

[rdbase]

Perez can easily get a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.

Holy cow! How did you know?
He was P12 or something like this when the race began. Crazy prediction on knowing he would of gotten pole.
I had Alonso on the predictions but both Mercedes and Aston Martins had problems with the car. Even Toto mentioned this on the radio to Hamilton during the last 16 laps but Lewis shrugged it off during the post-race interviews of course because the next venue is Silverstone!
Also, why aren't you on posting on the F1 thread for SB lately?
We miss your insight before the race there mate.

McLaren's upgrade has really worked and they are getting better in time. Norris is of course benefiting from the situation a lot. Qualifying session went great for him as he will start in 4th place. But the problem is that McLaren still can't reflect this development onto the race exactly yet. For example he started in 3rd place to the Spanish GP but the end of the race was horrible for him.

For now McLaren can do a solid work in only qualifying sessions. But this is still progress for them. Now they need to focus on maintaining a high performance during a whole race. Today will be another chance for them to make it work in the race as well.

Funny thing is that McLaren only had upgraded Norris car and not Piastri's which is why he hasn't improved any on the leaderboard.
If I were him I would be right pissed that they play favorites for each and every race.
He might want to get traded to another team by the year's end because of this determining factor.

1.8 on that is really value bet, maybe it will not pass, but odds should be 1.6 or even lower for NO, 1.8 looks as a gift, or bookies know something that we don't know

Maybe bookmakers expected Perez to be a bit better, at least close to Max because today, we have seen how impressive Red Bull can perform (but only Max). Perez still managed to score 2nd place in Sprint race but Verstappen had a huge lead, over 20 seconds, while Sainz was still close behind Perez. Perez didn't manage to create a gap to Sainz, so overtaking for him in traffic tomorrow will be difficult. Maybe we'll get some rain and Perez can make up more places by a chaotic race but right now, it's looking dry for tomorrow.

At least, we had a fantastic sprint race today. Amazing performance from Hulkenberg one more lap and he gains even more positions but still great result for him.

And yes, I agree, odds of 1.60 are more reasonable, maybe even 1.50.
Now, after Sprint race, odds are down to 1.52:



Still very good odds in my opinion because I don't see Perez making a podium here and then, there's always a possibility for a Verstappen DNF due to a collission or technical issues.

Perez can easily get a podium here.

Perez is in a RedBull but he's not Verstappen.  
So far, Perez never has achieved a podium this season, when he started outside of the top 10:
Canada = started P12, finished P6
Spain = started P11, finished P4
Monaco = started P20, finished P16
Australia = started P20, finished P5

So, I don't expect an easy podium for him in Austria.
He will need a really god performance and a bit luck to achieve a podium here.

The best strategy for him is to start with the hard tires, wait until is possible, and then when the time comes and the others already did a pit (or a safety car come), change his tires and be aggress to the others.

It's probably his best chance but he also needs to get some early overtakes or he's stuck behind midfielders while Ferrari, Aston Martin and Mercedes will pull a gap quickly. Without Safety Car or red flag, it'll be very unlikely to get past P5.

The wheater will be sun according to google so he just needs to stay on track to be able to recover.

And overtake.  

Well, it seems like you've analyzed the situation thoroughly and have a clear opinion on Sergio Perez's chances. Betting odds can be quite intriguing, and sometimes they do make you wonder if the bookies know something we don't. But hey, in Formula One, anything can happen, so let's see if Perez surprises us all and makes a miraculous climb up the ranks.

Yes, I've still Perez on Superbru on podium, not sure if changing it is a good move but I'll decide tomorrow, if changing picks is a good idea or not.

Starting from P15, it'll be a hard race for him once again and when having a look how he has performed recently, I've decided to make a bet because I beleive, RedBull won't be able to get a double podium here:  

I think it is quite a sensible bet to make. Perez is really unstable here as well. He seemed way better in the sprint race today though but this is still not changing the fact that he is starting from way back of the grid. It is too difficult for him to climb until reaching podium. Even if they get very close to it I don't think he would comfortably overtake a Ferrari driver.

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I can agree here 100%. Today, Perenz finished 2nd but he also started 2nd.
Despite having clean air and no spray due to rain (Verstappen was way ahead of him), Perez struggled to create a gap to Sainz. I just can't see how he's fast enough to overtake 11 cars tomorrow, unless no big crash happens, where for example both Ferraris and Hamilton are involved in. Instead of a Perez podium, a Perez disappointment seems to be more likely.  
Austria doesn't seem to be a track, Perez likes to drive at.

Perez getting 2nd just shows you how dominate the Red Bull cars are and I don't see any other car no matter what upgrades they do will change this fact of F1 now until the next 11 races left of the season.
No holds barred here.

Congratulations to you @CLS63 & @1miau for both achieving the yellow caps for the Australian Austrian Grand Prix!

[jeremypwr]

Congratulations to you @CLS63 & @1miau for both achieving the yellow caps for the Australian Grand Prix!

boltz won the Yellow Cap for the Australian GP in April
CLS63 and 1miau win the Yellow Cap for the Austrian GP that just finished
There's a lot going on; let's try our best not to confuse everyone here  

[buwaytress]

Nice call on the podium finish for Perez, coinlocket$! And I think CLS63 getting the winner wrong but making up for it with that fantastic podium bonus is well worth the 2 extra points for yellow cap.

I slipped down a ranking, 2 points off the leader yet again so I'm just hanging on here, thought I was actually being smart mixing it up with Hammie and Alonso on podium, and Ocon not in top 10 took precious points off me. Not a single position bonus this round too.