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July 28, 2023, 08:15:16 PM
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Max was near 1 second faster than the second guy Leclerc and I doubt that in the Sprint race of tomorrow to have any surprises,unfortunately it is true,the new upgrades from Redbull could not show their performance in a slow and short track like that in Hungary but in here they made and extreme difference and I doubt anything or anyone to change that,I see Max winning this race too and the only thing stopping him will not be the rain,nor the Safety Car but only a crash or a mechanical failure,in all other cases it will be a boring race dominated by Redbull.

Yeah the RBR is just insane.
When the FIA decided to open the DRS, the strength point of RBR they started to play another game.

Tomorrow we will have new qualify for the sprint race, the only way to stop MAX is with casualty with rain.

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July 28, 2023, 10:08:58 PM
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Verstappen was close to being dropped in Q2, where he only made position 10, so very lucky for him in the end.  Cheesy



Anyway, does anybody have some good value bets for the next race?  I'm all ears...  All I see is Stroll points finish at 1.95 and Alonso top 6 finish at 1.91.
Expecting 2 wet sessions today, where lap times are changing all the time and especially for Belgium, where one lap takes 1:45 + 2:00 minutes per lap depending on conditions, I've done 2 bets yesterday, one for FP1 and one for qualification:



Bets are not settled yet but gaps were 0.5 seconds for FP1 and 0.8 seconds for qualification.

Markets for tomorrow's sprint qualifying are not up yet but all odds above 2.20 would be a pretty good value bet in my opinion.
Tomorrow seems to be wet as well but how fast Verstappen is here we might also have a likely a big gap in normal conditions.



For Sunday's race, McLaren both cars top 6 finish @2.00 odds can be interesting, but in wet conditions, McLaren can also have some unlucky events and lose positions.


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July 28, 2023, 10:42:06 PM
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For Sunday's race, McLaren both cars top 6 finish @2.00 odds can be interesting, but in wet conditions, McLaren can also have some unlucky events and lose positions.

I think it is very risky to bet on the performance of both cars to be at the wanted level because of rain. We shouldn't overlook especially Ferrari's good performance in the qualifying as well.

In fact it would be much better if there is a bet to be opened like who wins the race except Verstappen.
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July 28, 2023, 10:59:44 PM
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Verstappen did a good work despite the five-place grid penalty. However I don't think it was worth exaggerating as I saw from some sources. Because the track was just drying up after rain so the lap times were getting much better in every lap for every driver. If some other drivers in Q3 had one more chance I believe at least one of them could have done better than Verstappen's lap time. This result is the best one Verstappen could have. Now he will be starting in 6th place which is very close to the lead for him.  Grin

Depending on track conditions the race might still be quite interesting. But it is still very challenging to deal with Verstappen's dominance. I wonder if we will watch Ferrari messing it up again after seeing especially Leclerc's great qualifying effort.

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July 28, 2023, 11:52:33 PM
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For Sunday's race, McLaren both cars top 6 finish @2.00 odds can be interesting, but in wet conditions, McLaren can also have some unlucky events and lose positions.

I think it is very risky to bet on the performance of both cars to be at the wanted level because of rain.
You are right, a rainy race is always very risky to have an unexpected outcome.

But especially McLaren has been doing well in rain, like in Monaco, where Norris and Piastri managed to pass Tsunoda on track and we know how difficult it is to overtake in Monaco.
In addition, McLaren has chosen a big rear-wing for this weekend.
Big rear-wing means a fast car in rainy conditions and McLaren showed a great performance when the track was wet (Q1 and Q2).

Probably odds of 2.00 for both cars top 6 are not enough to be a good value bet but I wouldn't be surprised to see McLaren doing well, both in rainy and dry conditions.

In fact it would be much better if there is a bet to be opened like who wins the race except Verstappen.
Such a bet would be interesting or in these conditions, a bet on a red flag as well.  Cheesy



I wonder if we will watch Ferrari messing it up again after seeing especially Leclerc's great qualifying effort.
Ferrari always finds a way to mess up, especially in changing conditions.
My personal expectation is on a bad strategy call due to changing conditions (rain / dry track), where at least 1 car is affected.  Cheesy

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July 29, 2023, 12:39:26 AM
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Fuck i go out later from work and i miss the practice and also the qualy, the worst part, i dont put any picks, because i wanted to see the practice and after that select my picks with that information, but was too risky, i forgot to leave at least any picks before.

As far as i can see another pole for Max.

Wait what happened to the grid penalty and all that?

Can't check the news just yet, commenting here on the fly and on the road but some comments above say he  starts in 6th anyway, as mentioned earlier from the gearbox change.

I like MvLaren double finish above 6 odds too, for funny money.

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July 29, 2023, 08:47:52 AM
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I wonder if we will watch Ferrari messing it up again after seeing especially Leclerc's great qualifying effort.
Ferrari always finds a way to mess up, especially in changing conditions.
My personal expectation is on a bad strategy call due to changing conditions (rain / dry track), where at least 1 car is affected.  Cheesy

Bad strategy is essential for Ferrari crew.  Grin  They are even more prone to making bad decisions under such weather conditions. If this happens I think the type of bad decision will be tyre strategies. Maybe they would call one of their drivers to pit early or late to change tyres which would cost him big time. Or maybe it would be another long pit just as they did in Hungary.

McLaren could have done better than this as well. Because Piastri and Norris seemed really good until Q3. But they couldn't have a good lap on their last attempt because of being slower in the first sectors if I'm not mistaken.

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July 29, 2023, 09:53:43 AM
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Fuck i go out later from work and i miss the practice and also the qualy, the worst part, i dont put any picks, because i wanted to see the practice and after that select my picks with that information, but was too risky, i forgot to leave at least any picks before.

As far as i can see another pole for Max.

Wait what happened to the grid penalty and all that?

Can't check the news just yet, commenting here on the fly and on the road but some comments above say he  starts in 6th anyway, as mentioned earlier from the gearbox change.

I like MvLaren double finish above 6 odds too, for funny money.

No matter where he starts is completely irrelevant in this track for Max as he still drives the best car on the grid which can make him win under the conditions of this weekend even if he starts last and in fact it would be very nice to see him starting far away under such conditions but that remains an utopia for now as I am sure in the Sprint of today he will end first.

For the McLaren double I won that bet last week at 2.20 odd and I was not at all expecting it so I placed little money,shame on me,this time though in a long track like this one they will have true chances of repeating that success again.

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2023 F1 Belgian Grand Prix - Sprint Shootout Results
Pos.   Driver   Nat.   Team   SQ1   SQ2   SQ3
1   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m58.135s   1m55.200s   1m49.056s
2   Oscar Piastri   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   2m00.056s   1m56.392s   1m49.067s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m59.414s   1m56.557s   1m49.081s
4   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m59.575s   1m56.265s   1m49.251s
5   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2m00.436s   1m56.828s   1m49.389s
6   Pierre Gasly   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   2m00.032s   1m56.137s   1m49.700s
7   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   1m58.939s   1m55.823s   1m49.900s
8   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Bull Racing   1m59.362s   1m55.878s   1m49.961s
9   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m59.884s   1m57.051s   1m50.494s
10   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team   2m00.475s   1m57.393s   1m55.742s
11   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   Scuderia AlphaTauri   2m00.177s   1m57.687s   
12   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m59.198s   No Time Set   
13   Logan Sargeant   USA   Williams Racing   2m00.031s   No Time Set   
14   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m00.460s   No Time Set   
15   Fernando Alonso   ESP   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m59.038s   No Time Set   
16   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    2m00.568s       
17   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   2m00.951s       
18   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   2m01.079s       
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Stake   2m01.430s       
20   Nico Hulkenberg   GER   MoneyGram Haas F1 Team   No Time Set

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1032345/1/f1-2023-belgian-grand-prix-sprint-shootout-results


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July 29, 2023, 12:17:49 PM
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I like MvLaren double finish above 6 odds too, for funny money.
I've also placed some BTC on this yesterday. Odds @2.00 are looking very promising.
McLaren is showing an impressive performance here and especially Ferrari, who were strong in qualifying are expected to have much worse tyre degradation.
In my opinion, it's an interesting bet, so good luck of course.



No matter where he starts is completely irrelevant in this track for Max as he still drives the best car on the grid which can make him win under the conditions of this weekend even if he starts last and in fact it would be very nice to see him starting far away under such conditions but that remains an utopia for now as I am sure in the Sprint of today he will end first.
Yes, Belgium has a long straight, where it's easy to overtake.
Last year, Verstappen won from starting on position 14 in a less dominant car, si I expect him to win easily. Only rain and a bad strategy call / mechanical issue can stop him in my opinion.

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July 29, 2023, 05:29:44 PM
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What a joke the FIA its becoming day to day, 5 seconds to Hamilton? lets race man (i dont see the driver camera), the delayed start was too much, man a lot of time, i know its about security but seems like we have better options or better communication to do.

And for last, Max Verstappen putting a gap of 6+ seconds in only a few laps, its in another league. Piastri making really good performance right now.

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Another easy win for MAX, at this point he can win all the remains races until the end of the season.

PIASTRI, is a top tier driver he will fight for titles soon.

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Perez's bad performance this season is giving really good things to social media users. Here is a post that I laughed at very much today.

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July 29, 2023, 09:35:21 PM
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Perez's bad performance this season is giving really good things to social media users. Here is a post that I laughed at very much today.


Riccardo is doing great for a driver who has been on break for a long time.

I think he will take Perez's seat the next year

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July 29, 2023, 09:55:38 PM
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We couldn't enjoy a full sprint race due to rainy weather but the part we watched was still nice. Seeing Piastri doing his best was good. He even took the lead for a short time. If he had a faster car it would have been really nice to watch a competition between him and Verstappen for the lead. But it was easy for Verstappen to overtake him again and have a comfortable finish.

It is still nice to see Piastri doing really well in his first year in Formula 1. He is lucky about one thing also that McLaren have got much more powerful after the recent upgrades. Now it depends on Piastri and Norris to carry their team to upper positions in the standings.

But it won't be easy for McLaren to catch up easily because the gap is quite big with their closest opponent now.

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July 29, 2023, 10:27:27 PM
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We couldn't enjoy a full sprint race due to rainy weather but the part we watched was still nice. Seeing Piastri doing his best was good. He even took the lead for a short time. If he had a faster car it would have been really nice to watch a competition between him and Verstappen for the lead. But it was easy for Verstappen to overtake him again and have a comfortable finish.

It is still nice to see Piastri doing really well in his first year in Formula 1. He is lucky about one thing also that McLaren have got much more powerful after the recent upgrades. Now it depends on Piastri and Norris to carry their team to upper positions in the standings.

But it won't be easy for McLaren to catch up easily because the gap is quite big with their closest opponent now.

It's unfortunate the rainy weather affected the full sprint race, but it's great that you still enjoyed watching Piastri's performance. It's impressive that he briefly took the lead, and a competitive battle with Verstappen would have been exciting. Piastri's success in his first year in Formula 1 is promising, especially with McLaren's improved performance. However, closing the gap with their closest opponent won't be easy, and it will depend on both Piastri and Norris's efforts to push their team higher in the standings. Racing can be unpredictable, so let's see how the rest of the season unfolds.
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July 30, 2023, 08:47:15 AM
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Leclerc is also one of the really good drivers when it comes to defending their opponents. The start can be quite delightful because of that. Perez will surely try to have his best start to hunt him down already. We can see a dive from him at the end of the start straight or maybe a serious attack in the fastest part of the track a short time after.

If Leclerc manages to defend well against Perez and creates some safe time gap he can at least postpone the overtake by Verstappen a little more. But sooner or later Verstappen would take the lead and disappear. I guess there might even be a team call for Perez to give up his place for Verstappen not to hold him behind much.

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July 30, 2023, 09:49:18 AM
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Perez's bad performance this season is giving really good things to social media users. Here is a post that I laughed at very much today.


Riccardo is doing great for a driver who has been on break for a long time.

I think he will take Perez's seat the next year

That depends on how he will perform in these remaining races,most likely he will do better than his team mate as he has more experience but will also depend on the Perez performance during these remaining races.Another factor is what Verstappen thinks and most likely he will feel much more confident having Perez as team mate as he will not see any real threat coming to him while Ricciardo if given a winning car maybe will perform better than Perez and as such I am sure Verstappen will vote with a big no for RIcciardo coming again in the team.

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Another easy win for Max, F1 is quite boring now.

Was much better with the previous generation of cars, but this generation ruined the competition.

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Another easy win for Max, F1 is quite boring now.

Was much better with the previous generation of cars, but this generation ruined the competition.

No one expected otherwise in this race and it is normal that a great driver which is now 3 times world champion as I doubt he will lose this one,he has no opponent,he pass his team mate like he is driving a Haas or Apha Tauri and not like the team mate is driving the same car as him,in this context is super boring the F1.This is super boring because the fault of all other manufacturers who are not keeping up with the Honda engine,yes the same engine we all made fun during 2015-2016 at McLaren which Alonso called GP2 yet now is winning Championships like crazy without removing anything to Redbull aerodynamics it is the engine power that wins you races.

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