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[1miau]

Sainz, what the fuck you do on the first corner, he ruined the Piastri race.

Sainz really wasn't to blame for that one as he was heading way ahead into the first corner and Piastri tried to go for a gap, which wasn't really there as it's usually a tight corner.

I have a very diferent view on that maneuver, for me its pure Sainz fault, he come to the turn really fast and he its gonna miss the turn so he put full breaks (destroying his tyres) and yes Piastri made the decision to take the inside line, much before but Sains breaking and turning so abruptly make him squeeze against the wall.

It's a known issue for turn 1 that going on the inside has a high risk of crash danger and Sainz couldn't really do much as he was in front driving his line.

In 2016, Verstappen went on the inside and had a crash with Raikkonen, who took the outside (like Sainz now):


2016



In 2019, Verstappen (again) went on the inside and had a crash with Raikkonen (again), who took the outside (like Sainz now):


2019

There's a nice summary of crash comparison for 2016, 2019 and 2023.


While it's a clear racing incident for me, I don't see how Sainz should be blamed here, while Raikkonen wasn't blamed in 2016 and 2019 as well.
First corner in Spa is just a place where it's always leading to crashes because even a big, existing gap in turn 1 will always disappear.

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[tokeweed]

Anyway, Dutch GP next.  Verstappen at 1.25.  Lol.  I feel like something unexpected is gonna happen.  

I am afraid you are going to wait some time as the Dutch GP is not near at all,it is after the holidays on 26 August and there is plenty of time until then  .I don't see any unexpected thing to happen here as he will be racing in front of the home fans,I doubt anyone else will be able to challenge him for the pole position which would in turn be an easy race win just like he did last time around.

The only thing stopping him this year are mechanical failures yet we have to see one as Redbull beside being super fast is also super reliable so that 1.25 may be a really big amount of odd seen from this perspective  .

Yup, good thing the EPL will be starting the next weekend after the coming one.    I haven't really been following a lot of football a lot as of late but with how boring F1 really has been going, I could get back into the EPL again.  It could be an interesting season with City being City, Poch at Chelsea and Klopp go try to get Liverpool back on track.  There's also Arteta and the Gunners and the dark horse with Eddie Howe and his boys at Newcastle United.  

United will end 6th or lower at the table.  Lmaooo.

For me though August is the most boring month considering there will be no races or just on race in the last weekend of it but I also know that drivers need to get their holidays done and August is the best month,I go on holidays too in the last 2 weeks of August.

For football is great that is coming back but the initial games I think we will see a lot of surprise which is always the case in the Premier League,I agree though Newcastle is truly the dark horse of the Premier League and I expect them this year to be fighting for the top spot.

To be really honest with you guys, the last couple of seasons has been very boring.  It would've been better if the FIA stuck with the 2021 specs until 2026.  I think it would've made the competition between Red Bull and Mercedes close and we'd have these iconic F1 moments.  But no, they had to change it cos for 'safety reasons'.  

And it's not only us that notice it has gotten a lot more boring...  A lot of people do as shown in the drop in viewing figures.

https://www.pitpass.com/74772/F1-reveals-drop-in-viewing-figures

[coinlocket$]

And it's not only us that notice it has gotten a lot more boring...  A lot of people do as shown in the drop in viewing figures.

RBR has a secret under his car, they are now discovering "new rumors" from the car when they have on board cam.
The noise of the car is pretty unique and they are investigating on why they are doing it.

[tokeweed]

^  Lol.    That's always the case almost every year with the dominant teams.  If Mercedes was leading, other teams would find an issue, if it's Ferrari it's the same case.  It's really getting pretty old.  I mean why would RBR deliberately cheat?  Adrian Newey prolly found a loop hole in the spec rules and designed the car around it.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it's Toto Wolff getting riled up with it if there really was an issue with RBR's car.    And if it's really nothing, it's prolly just some journos trying to get some rumor going as they need to eat.  The season is getting really boring.

[swogerino]

^  Lol.    That's always the case almost every year with the dominant teams.  If Mercedes was leading, other teams would find an issue, if it's Ferrari it's the same case.  It's really getting pretty old.  I mean why would RBR deliberately cheat?  Adrian Newey prolly found a loop hole in the spec rules and designed the car around it.

And I wouldn't be surprised if it's Toto Wolff getting riled up with it if there really was an issue with RBR's car.    And if it's really nothing, it's prolly just some journos trying to get some rumor going as they need to eat.  The season is getting really boring.

Season has already ended for me and many other fans so nothing boring anymore,I know that Verstappen in normal conditions can win all races without problems,not even Safety Car or heavy rain can stop him as we have seen during this time,the only thing which can stop him is a mechanical or electrical failure,which so far has not happened.

Other teams now are trying to find these "cheats" in Redbull car as they cannot otherwise fight against them and I have said this before,Adrian Newey has been in F1 from many years winning titles with McLaren and Redbull,so he is a great aerodynamics engineer and his experience in F1 is hard to match,pair it with a good driver like Verstappen and it is over the season  .

[ILuckyGuyI]

These days I'm interested in the speculations about drivers' future teams more. Because the championship has got really boring after Verstappen has made a huge point gap with the others in the standings.

Leclerc might sign a new contract with Ferrari soon for example. According to speculations it will be a 2-year contract and there might be an option to extend it much more also. Despite having serious issues with his team in terms of communication and strategies maybe he still loves to be a part of Ferrari. He might be believing in Ferrari's future. As a Tifosi I would also like to believe but it is quite hard for me now.  

[boltz]

And it's not only us that notice it has gotten a lot more boring...  A lot of people do as shown in the drop in viewing figures.

RBR has a secret under his car, they are now discovering "new rumors" from the car when they have on board cam.
The noise of the car is pretty unique and they are investigating on why they are doing it.

It's exactly how Vettel's RedBull sounded a decade ago. Just search videos on youtube and listen to the engine and you will find out that the sound is almost the same and I do think there is something irregular with RedBull engine but we will never know for sure.

Also , last friday there was an FIA investigation about RedBull car and guess what...a few hours after that , there was nothing to investigate because Redbull changed those 2 important parts and they got a grid penalty instead...so I don't know , I really don't like and never liked to see a long domination from a car or a driver.

[darxiaomi]

1miau thanks for taking the effort to collect the images and level up the discussion.

For me still the same, in all examples you show, its fault of the driver behind, i agree with you, but in Sainz case, for me he go really far outside so Piastri in a milisecond take the interior, but in that same milisecond Sainz knows he was passed and breaks so heavy and cut for the inner.

Sorry if my explanation its not so accurate but my english its not quite good.

But well in the end are all point of views.

[coinlocket$]

It's exactly how Vettel's RedBull sounded a decade ago. Just search videos on youtube and listen to the engine and you will find out that the sound is almost the same and I do think there is something irregular with RedBull engine but we will never know for sure.

Also , last friday there was an FIA investigation about RedBull car and guess what...a few hours after that , there was nothing to investigate because Redbull changed those 2 important parts and they got a grid penalty instead...so I don't know , I really don't like and never liked to see a long domination from a car or a driver.

Yeah, it was called Blowing Effect and it has been banned in F1 cause its overpowered effect.

It will be interesting to know if RBR has found a way to use this effect in another way or it is a similar effect.

[CLS63]

After the break began we started to have speculations about drivers right away.

Leclerc is speculated to be signing a new contract with Ferrari soon. It is reported to be at least two years and there might be an option to extend it more as well. Despite all that problems at Ferrari he still wants to fight for Ferrari's success seemingly. I don't know if he is doing the right thing to be honest. Because it is really difficult to predict if Ferrari would change in the future. They need to take important steps to put an end to this nonsense mistakes once and for all.

[swogerino]

After the break began we started to have speculations about drivers right away.

Leclerc is speculated to be signing a new contract with Ferrari soon. It is reported to be at least two years and there might be an option to extend it more as well. Despite all that problems at Ferrari he still wants to fight for Ferrari's success seemingly. I don't know if he is doing the right thing to be honest. Because it is really difficult to predict if Ferrari would change in the future. They need to take important steps to put an end to this nonsense mistakes once and for all.

I don't think it will be the right choice for him,or he will be another "sacrificed" driver of the so many who have been doing the same thing and I can name big names here like,Irvine,Vettel and Alonso who spent several years at Ferrari when Ferrari was even better than now and could not win the title.I think it would be the best for him to wait and to just extend for one year more with Ferrari and not two years while by doing so he will have more opportunities for him as he is still a relatively young driver and having chances to move to a better car is always to have so I would suggest him that.

[CLS63]

After the break began we started to have speculations about drivers right away.

Leclerc is speculated to be signing a new contract with Ferrari soon. It is reported to be at least two years and there might be an option to extend it more as well. Despite all that problems at Ferrari he still wants to fight for Ferrari's success seemingly. I don't know if he is doing the right thing to be honest. Because it is really difficult to predict if Ferrari would change in the future. They need to take important steps to put an end to this nonsense mistakes once and for all.

I don't think it will be the right choice for him,or he will be another "sacrificed" driver of the so many who have been doing the same thing and I can name big names here like,Irvine,Vettel and Alonso who spent several years at Ferrari when Ferrari was even better than now and could not win the title.I think it would be the best for him to wait and to just extend for one year more with Ferrari and not two years while by doing so he will have more opportunities for him as he is still a relatively young driver and having chances to move to a better car is always to have so I would suggest him that.

Maybe he can't imagine himself at any other team on the grid now. That might be why he is seeing Ferrari as the best option for himself. He will be the number one driver at Ferrari if he extends his contract as well. Because Sainz is very likely to join Audi by 2026 season as it has been all over the news.

In this situation Leclerc will most probably have a companion which won't have the same status with Sainz. I mean there is going to be a hierarchy once again. I'm afraid this really seems like the best idea in this sport otherwise it makes things more difficult for a team to have a driver being the champion.

[coinlocket$]

RBR is already thinking about the next years.

Yesterday they did an interview sayng the are not working anymore on this year's car.

Now we understood they are looking for a new driver for 2025 and it can be one outside Perez and Riccardo.

[Ulven]

RBR is already thinking about the next years.

Yesterday they did an interview sayng the are not working anymore on this year's car.

Now we understood they are looking for a new driver for 2025 and it can be one outside Perez and Riccardo.

RBR is already looking ahead to the future like a team with a crystal ball. In a recent interview, they spilled the beans that they've parked their wrenches when it comes to this year's car. It's like they're playing F1 chess, scouting for a new driver for the 2025 season, and it's anyone's guess who will slide into the cockpit – could be someone other than Perez or Ricciardo, maybe they're secretly summoning a Formula 1 unicorn!

[tokeweed]

RBR is already thinking about the next years.

Yesterday they did an interview sayng the are not working anymore on this year's car.

Now we understood they are looking for a new driver for 2025 and it can be one outside Perez and Riccardo.

Who tho?  All I can think about that's not Perez and Ricciardo is the other Alpha Tauri boy which seems to be a long shot of getting in the first team imho.  A possbility is somebody who's unhappy with Ferrari who might be looking for an out...  Leclerc. 

And just wondering...  If it's to be Ricciardo moving up to RBR, would the Vettel clout come into play and get Mick Schumacher at Alpha Tauri?  I heard he was trying to get Mick in Aston Martin after he left.

[CLS63]

I really want to see Leclerc at a good team except Ferrari very much. I trust him for his showing us what he can do under pressure and how he can challenge with Verstappen while he has also a good car. If Red Bull bring a driver like Leclerc in Perez's place I'm wondering how Verstappen would react to this as well. Many people must still have the incidents happened in Webber/Vettel time in mind.

[coinlocket$]

I really want to see Leclerc at a good team except Ferrari very much. I trust him for his showing us what he can do under pressure and how he can challenge with Verstappen while he has also a good car. If Red Bull bring a driver like Leclerc in Perez's place I'm wondering how Verstappen would react to this as well. Many people must still have the incidents happened in Webber/Vettel time in mind.

Besides RBR all the other teams are at the same level, all the cars are fast or slow depending on the track they are running.

I can't see really who is the second-best option after RBR.

[swogerino]

I really want to see Leclerc at a good team except Ferrari very much. I trust him for his showing us what he can do under pressure and how he can challenge with Verstappen while he has also a good car. If Red Bull bring a driver like Leclerc in Perez's place I'm wondering how Verstappen would react to this as well. Many people must still have the incidents happened in Webber/Vettel time in mind.

Besides RBR all the other teams are at the same level, all the cars are fast or slow depending on the track they are running.

I can't see really who is the second-best option after RBR.

I think right now it is McLaren and in the last race they made an error in the setup as they wanted to win the race if there would be enough intense rain,they aimed for that and that is why it looked like they were struggling,they designed the car setup to be a winning one if heavy rain would have been possible in Belgium.

You will see in this track in Netherlands if it does not rain and they make a normal setup of the car,they will definitely be after Redbull and most likely they will be beating all the other teams.This does not mean though that the things will continue this way,this may change but so far only McLaren has worked much better than the other teams in this direction.

[darxiaomi]

I really want to see Leclerc at a good team except Ferrari very much. I trust him for his showing us what he can do under pressure and how he can challenge with Verstappen while he has also a good car. If Red Bull bring a driver like Leclerc in Perez's place I'm wondering how Verstappen would react to this as well. Many people must still have the incidents happened in Webber/Vettel time in mind.

Besides RBR all the other teams are at the same level, all the cars are fast or slow depending on the track they are running.

I can't see really who is the second-best option after RBR.

I think right now it is McLaren and in the last race they made an error in the setup as they wanted to win the race if there would be enough intense rain,they aimed for that and that is why it looked like they were struggling,they designed the car setup to be a winning one if heavy rain would have been possible in Belgium.

You will see in this track in Netherlands if it does not rain and they make a normal setup of the car,they will definitely be after Redbull and most likely they will be beating all the other teams.This does not mean though that the things will continue this way,this may change but so far only McLaren has worked much better than the other teams in this direction.

The problem with McClaren its you never know how really well they are, seems like now they are more solid than before, but i see them walking backwards after good reaces. But yes right now seems like the only team who found a path to the correct upgrade and develop of the car for the future and next races.

[coinlocket$]

I think right now it is McLaren and in the last race they made an error in the setup as they wanted to win the race if there would be enough intense rain,

Yea, but all the teams are close, with just a single update gaining 2-3 tens of a second you can change from eight to the second team.

Look at Aston Martin at the start of the season and now, they were the second team now they are the 5th or worse.