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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. But I don't think Russia will be the biggest beneficiary because getting bogged down in war is something no country wants. Because it will slow down their economy and their country will lag behind the rest of the world, it will take them years to recover everything. The country that benefits most is the country that is not directly involved in the war but continues to sell weapons to prolong the war and they do not want the war to stop because the longer it lasts, the more weapons it sells. Yes, of course the winner gets benefits. However, if you scale the benefits and loss, you'll find yourself wondering if the benefits found are even worth the loss accumulated. Recovery, as you said will take years and the mark it will leave will be remembered for good.
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July 29, 2023, 02:53:23 PM |
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War benefits different groups, but its overall impact is highly destructive. Some entities that historically gained from war include arms manufacturers and the military-industrial complex, profiting from increased weapon demand. Resource-rich nations or corporations can exploit conflicts to control valuable resources, securing economic advantages. Certain political leaders may use war to consolidate power or divert attention from internal issues. Additionally, wars can create opportunities for profit through post-conflict reconstruction efforts, benefiting some businesses. Geopolitically, countries might engage in war to expand influence or protect allies, potentially enhancing their position in the world order. However, it is essential to recognize that these benefits often come at an immense cost: loss of human lives, displacement of populations, destruction of infrastructure, and long-lasting psychological trauma. Pursuing peaceful resolutions and investing in diplomacy remains a crucial path towards a more stable and just global community.
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July 29, 2023, 04:37:10 PM |
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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. But I don't think Russia will be the biggest beneficiary because getting bogged down in war is something no country wants. Because it will slow down their economy and their country will lag behind the rest of the world, it will take them years to recover everything. The country that benefits most is the country that is not directly involved in the war but continues to sell weapons to prolong the war and they do not want the war to stop because the longer it lasts, the more weapons it sells. I agree that countries that benefit the most are countries that don't join the war but they get income from selling their merchandise to countries that are in conflict, but sometimes this also triggers conflict for countries that supply their goods because they are considered supporters. Yes, of course there are negative and positive sides to the position of war, but the advantaged position in the position of the warring countries is the victorious country, because they will get the spoils of war and expand the territory of their territory.
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July 29, 2023, 04:55:47 PM |
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China is a very closed country, we know very little about the intentions of the leaders of the Chinese Communist Party...
Are the Chinese really planning to take over Taiwan? Or do they have some alternative plans for the development of Chinese microelectronics (including military developments)? We do not know. Until recently, China pursued a very balanced foreign policy.
However, with the coming to power of Xi Jinping, the Chinese Communist Party has moved from collective management to an authoritarian management model.
Will this lead to a more aggressive Chinese foreign policy? Will China go to war? These questions are difficult to answer unambiguously.
But it is possible.
Throughout the history China always pushed others to go into war and that’s what they are doing till date. They will never ever be friends with anyone because they play safe. They play that way because of the same authority based administration which is deep rooted in them since very long. They just following the divide and rule strategy which used to be famous from British empire. If they do war they are doing this for business purpose only. They know they have biggest supply chain in the world. If world needs anything in the war situation then it’s china that cha manufacture and they can do it on mass level. Everything is tricky these days.
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July 30, 2023, 08:38:17 AM |
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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. But I don't think Russia will be the biggest beneficiary because getting bogged down in war is something no country wants. Because it will slow down their economy and their country will lag behind the rest of the world, it will take them years to recover everything. The country that benefits most is the country that is not directly involved in the war but continues to sell weapons to prolong the war and they do not want the war to stop because the longer it lasts, the more weapons it sells. Yes, of course the winner gets benefits. However, if you scale the benefits and loss, you'll find yourself wondering if the benefits found are even worth the loss accumulated. Recovery, as you said will take years and the mark it will leave will be remembered for good. What you say is just the thoughts of ordinary people like us, but politicians, they have different thoughts, even they will risk everything to achieve their goals. Moreover, sometimes war occurs but is not what the two warring parties want, but it can be manipulated by a third party to create a war in favor of the one pulling the strings behind it. In my opinion, every war has a division of interests between great powers, those countries that do not have a powerful army but are becoming warring parties are just chess pieces for the great powers to take advantage of to distribute benefits.
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July 30, 2023, 10:18:52 AM |
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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. You are missing something here and what you wrote is totally incorrect. None of the countries that are involved in a war benefit. Is it for the money lost or the casualty recorded? Is it of the sanctions, diseases and famine causes or famine that would still linger for years because of the war? None of them has a single thing to benefit from but losses and destruction. And it might surprise you that those people and countries that benefit might be external. This is because even if such countries engaging in war could produce their weapons, they might run short of it or other raw materials which they will need to import from other countries, thereby benefiting external countries that have nothing to lose.
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War can never bring peace to any country but war always causes unrest to every country. In order to maintain the peace of your country, you must make a peace agreement without war. The Russia-Ukraine war has been going on for almost a long time, and the outcome of this war has not gone in favor of either country. Due to the war between the two countries, the common people are in a lot of fear and many common people have already lost their lives. The impact of the war in Russia and Ukraine has directly affected the economy of various countries. Almost every country had economic relations with Russia, but due to the war, Russia's relations with many countries were damaged, as a result of which they could not export or import goods from different countries. The war between Russia and Ukraine has affected many countries around the world. Due to the war in these two countries, the prices of fuel oil or raw materials of different countries have increased so the war must be stopped.
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July 30, 2023, 12:23:19 PM |
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War can never bring peace to any country but war always causes unrest to every country. In order to maintain the peace of your country, you must make a peace agreement without war. The Russia-Ukraine war has been going on for almost a long time, and the outcome of this war has not gone in favor of either country. Due to the war between the two countries, the common people are in a lot of fear and many common people have already lost their lives. The impact of the war in Russia and Ukraine has directly affected the economy of various countries. Almost every country had economic relations with Russia, but due to the war, Russia's relations with many countries were damaged, as a result of which they could not export or import goods from different countries. The war between Russia and Ukraine has affected many countries around the world. Due to the war in these two countries, the prices of fuel oil or raw materials of different countries have increased so the war must be stopped.
It is true that the war between Russia and Ukraine is causing damage to many countries worldwide, but not all, there are still countries that profit by selling weapons and energy to allies at exorbitant prices or have the opportunity to create an economic crisis to export inflation. Not only Russia and Ukraine suffered losses, but many other countries also fell into the same situation, but besides that, there were also some countries that benefited, so they did not want the war to end soon. If war didn't bring any benefit, people wouldn't have maintained it for thousands of years.
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July 30, 2023, 03:34:15 PM |
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War is something that causes a lot of losses, but on the other hand war provides many advantages, countries that have a supply of food, daily needs, to weapons for war certainly get a lot of benefits from war, of course it is not easy to be able to supply to countries that are at war because it will impact the enemy country will try to break the supply chain.
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In terms of simple logic, the beneficiary in a war can be: 1. The country that started the war and won. as a result of the victory it gained for example new land, resources, population. However, such wars were more characteristic of the Middle Ages, where the size of the country, population and resources played an important role. In today's world, it is more likely to benefit from a change of government in the country that has been subjected to aggression, to a loyal and favorable to the aggressor. 2. any third party that uses the conflict for its own benefit. Whether purposefully or as a "by-product" of its some involvement in a war on one side of the conflict. This could be - profitable buying up of assets or resources. In today's situation, this is for example done by China and India in their relations with the aggressor country, Russia It can be the benefit of a "boost to the economy". For example, the financing and development of the military-industrial complex of the countries of the anti-Rashist coalition, which, in order to help the country subjected to aggression, are increasing the production of weapons, ammunition, etc.
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July 30, 2023, 06:19:52 PM |
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In terms of simple logic, the beneficiary in a war can be: 1. The country that started the war and won. as a result of the victory it gained for example new land, resources, population. However, such wars were more characteristic of the Middle Ages, where the size of the country, population and resources played an important role. In today's world, it is more likely to benefit from a change of government in the country that has been subjected to aggression, to a loyal and favorable to the aggressor. 2. any third party that uses the conflict for its own benefit. Whether purposefully or as a "by-product" of its some involvement in a war on one side of the conflict. This could be - profitable buying up of assets or resources. In today's situation, this is for example done by China and India in their relations with the aggressor country, Russia It can be the benefit of a "boost to the economy". For example, the financing and development of the military-industrial complex of the countries of the anti-Rashist coalition, which, in order to help the country subjected to aggression, are increasing the production of weapons, ammunition, etc.
Finally. I was waiting for anyone to mention the third party/ies. Admit it or not there will be a third party that will take the opportunity to gain something as chaos from war happens. It is a golden opportunity to gain without losing, to earn something without risking too much. Hence, I agree with you on that point.
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I am 100% always an advocate for peace but to answer the question arms manufacturers, defense contractors & the military industrial complex often profit financially from war.
Political leaders benefit by diverting attention away from domestic issues or rallying support. It’s crucial to note that certain individuals or industries may reap short term gains but the overall costs & consequences of war can be devastating for societies, economies & individuals.
The toll on human lives, infrastructure & the long term impacts on peace and stability far outweigh any potential benefits.
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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. You are missing something here and what you wrote is totally incorrect. None of the countries that are involved in a war benefit. Is it for the money lost or the casualty recorded? Is it of the sanctions, diseases and famine causes or famine that would still linger for years because of the war? None of them has a single thing to benefit from but losses and destruction. And it might surprise you that those people and countries that benefit might be external. This is because even if such countries engaging in war could produce their weapons, they might run short of it or other raw materials which they will need to import from other countries, thereby benefiting external countries that have nothing to lose. Do you mean participating in war does not bring any benefit? As I said that's our thinking, but politicians won't think so. If war does not bring benefits, then why did Nazi Germany want to annex the world, why did the US, French, and British empires in the 90s sent troops to invade countries and were ready to destroy them all? And do you see that the countries that specialize in invading other countries are now great powers? What politicians want is to show their power, want people to obey them, but they don't think about the safety of others. I agree that war will cause losses but if they win the spoils will be much bigger. I am not surprised that it is the countries that do not participate in the war that benefit the most because they are the arms sellers, the longer the war goes on, the higher their revenue is, and they are even the instigators of the war.
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July 31, 2023, 11:39:31 AM |
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The answer is very complex if it is only limited to who benefits, we can see with the naked eye that Russia comes out as the winner of the most profits. However, we must objectively assess that Russia's invasion of Ukraine has a long and complicated background to explain. What is clear is that the benefits in the war cannot be felt directly either by the country that wins the battle, expanding the influence of power and exploring Ukraine's natural resources is an advantage for Russia in the future.
However, economically the two countries spent a sizable amount of war money to carry out their mission, if it was used to develop the country it would produce significant progress. Apart from the notion that the two countries are in conflict due to the interference of other countries, I think peace is better for the two countries.
In war, whichever country wins or has an advantage, that country benefits, no war breaks out without benefits. You are missing something here and what you wrote is totally incorrect. None of the countries that are involved in a war benefit. Is it for the money lost or the casualty recorded? Is it of the sanctions, diseases and famine causes or famine that would still linger for years because of the war? None of them has a single thing to benefit from but losses and destruction. And it might surprise you that those people and countries that benefit might be external. This is because even if such countries engaging in war could produce their weapons, they might run short of it or other raw materials which they will need to import from other countries, thereby benefiting external countries that have nothing to lose. Do you mean participating in war does not bring any benefit? As I said that's our thinking, but politicians won't think so. If war does not bring benefits, then why did Nazi Germany want to annex the world, why did the US, French, and British empires in the 90s sent troops to invade countries and were ready to destroy them all? And do you see that the countries that specialize in invading other countries are now great powers? What politicians want is to show their power, want people to obey them, but they don't think about the safety of others. I agree that war will cause losses but if they win the spoils will be much bigger. I am not surprised that it is the countries that do not participate in the war that benefit the most because they are the arms sellers, the longer the war goes on, the higher their revenue is, and they are even the instigators of the war. You are mixing things together, are you talking about war or conquest, they are different things. You do not have to be at war to be a great power in the global sphere, once you build your economy and you build your recognition and power and your relationship with other countries concluded the rest, then it will happen, it doesn't have to be through the war that destroys. As for Nazi Germany's remarks, that's a crazy example just like what Putin is doing now, Nazis want more territory because of their hunger for power, but did it help them, no of course, it only relegated the country after losing money, people, power and their respect. This happened until current Germany made people believe they were sorry. Or what has Russia of now gained or will gain in its present war with Ukraine? Nothing my friend, they can't certainly benefit anything. And for the countries engaging in the war themselves no benefits, not even the winners. Politicians and military high rankings might gain truly, but when it comes to the countries involved as I said earlier, there is no benefit on any side that at war, they will both suffer catastrophe of the war. Only external countries supplying weapon and raw material benefits.
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July 31, 2023, 01:15:43 PM |
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I think, bad leaders are the one benefiting from war most because war always give them access to make a huge demand from the government resources that will affect the economy and the citizens of those two party, which they will not use the money to solve the problem in the land. Like the war that is going on between Ukraine and Russia government, if the world peace Makers can investigate the cause of the war very well, you will discover that the bad leaders in the two countries are the one looking for way to loot the government resources. I believe, very soon the war will be over, and those behind the war will be brought to book , and they will definitely vomit what they have consum from the war.
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July 31, 2023, 04:57:38 PM |
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I think, bad leaders are the one benefiting from war most because war always give them access to make a huge demand from the government resources that will affect the economy and the citizens of those two party, which they will not use the money to solve the problem in the land. Like the war that is going on between Ukraine and Russia government, if the world peace Makers can investigate the cause of the war very well, you will discover that the bad leaders in the two countries are the one looking for way to loot the government resources. I believe, very soon the war will be over, and those behind the war will be brought to book , and they will definitely vomit what they have consum from the war.
In the war between Russia and Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor, that is, the attacking side. Its bad and bloodthirsty leader Putin would have won if, as he expected, he would have captured Ukraine in a short time. But he miscalculated and Ukraine, with the support of other states, inflicted colossal material and human losses on the aggressor. This hit Putin's image very painfully, and he, and possibly the state itself, will not recover from this. I am sure that Putin is now very sorry that he attacked Ukraine, but it is already impossible to return to the position before the attack.
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July 31, 2023, 06:20:40 PM |
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I think, bad leaders are the one benefiting from war most because war always give them access to make a huge demand from the government resources that will affect the economy and the citizens of those two party, which they will not use the money to solve the problem in the land. Like the war that is going on between Ukraine and Russia government, if the world peace Makers can investigate the cause of the war very well, you will discover that the bad leaders in the two countries are the one looking for way to loot the government resources. I believe, very soon the war will be over, and those behind the war will be brought to book , and they will definitely vomit what they have consum from the war.
In the war between Russia and Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor, that is, the attacking side. Its bad and bloodthirsty leader Putin would have won if, as he expected, he would have captured Ukraine in a short time. But he miscalculated and Ukraine, with the support of other states, inflicted colossal material and human losses on the aggressor. This hit Putin's image very painfully, and he, and possibly the state itself, will not recover from this. I am sure that Putin is now very sorry that he attacked Ukraine, but it is already impossible to return to the position before the attack. I remember there was a quote that said: you may have won the battle, but we have won the war; but everyone lost.This quote really hits deep when you think about the consequences of war both in the winner and on the loser side. Sure, the winner may have won but at what cost? Money on ammunition, explosives, etc. have been used; lives were lost; and the economic impact which would therefore last for ages would soon hit the country. In war, the only one that benefits is actually no one. Everyone is lost during the war due to its overall impact to everyone,
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July 31, 2023, 07:13:55 PM |
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In terms of simple logic, the beneficiary in a war can be: 1. The country that started the war and won. as a result of the victory it gained for example new land, resources, population. However, such wars were more characteristic of the Middle Ages, where the size of the country, population and resources played an important role. In today's world, it is more likely to benefit from a change of government in the country that has been subjected to aggression, to a loyal and favorable to the aggressor. 2. any third party that uses the conflict for its own benefit. Whether purposefully or as a "by-product" of its some involvement in a war on one side of the conflict. This could be - profitable buying up of assets or resources. In today's situation, this is for example done by China and India in their relations with the aggressor country, Russia It can be the benefit of a "boost to the economy". For example, the financing and development of the military-industrial complex of the countries of the anti-Rashist coalition, which, in order to help the country subjected to aggression, are increasing the production of weapons, ammunition, etc.
Finally. I was waiting for anyone to mention the third party/ies. Admit it or not there will be a third party that will take the opportunity to gain something as chaos from war happens. It is a golden opportunity to gain without losing, to earn something without risking too much. Hence, I agree with you on that point. Third party is not an unambiguous concept either ! For example, the position of Poland is also a third party, but they are not the initiators of these events, they got involved because of the events. And their benefit was that by transferring Soviet-made airplanes to Ukraine, on the one hand they helped Ukraine to destroy aggressors, on the other hand they benefited from receiving new models of airplanes for arming. Or here is India - buys oil for pennies and earns on it perfectly well, forcing "friend" to fulfill all the whims of India ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Perhaps there are countries, "third party", which could push Russia to aggression against Ukraine, expecting to get their benefit - for example, losing all military potential, economy, etc., to get it, Russia, in their possession?! I assume (but this is only my personal assumptions) that there is such a country on the map, and it is it that started to buy grain in Russia and Ukraine directly and indirectly in 2020-2021.
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July 31, 2023, 10:46:18 PM |
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I think, bad leaders are the one benefiting from war most because war always give them access to make a huge demand from the government resources that will affect the economy and the citizens of those two party, which they will not use the money to solve the problem in the land. Like the war that is going on between Ukraine and Russia government, if the world peace Makers can investigate the cause of the war very well, you will discover that the bad leaders in the two countries are the one looking for way to loot the government resources. I believe, very soon the war will be over, and those behind the war will be brought to book , and they will definitely vomit what they have consum from the war.
In the war between Russia and Ukraine, Russia is the aggressor, that is, the attacking side. Its bad and bloodthirsty leader Putin would have won if, as he expected, he would have captured Ukraine in a short time. But he miscalculated and Ukraine, with the support of other states, inflicted colossal material and human losses on the aggressor. This hit Putin's image very painfully, and he, and possibly the state itself, will not recover from this. I am sure that Putin is now very sorry that he attacked Ukraine, but it is already impossible to return to the position before the attack. I remember there was a quote that said: you may have won the battle, but we have won the war; but everyone lost.This quote really hits deep when you think about the consequences of war both in the winner and on the loser side. Sure, the winner may have won but at what cost? Money on ammunition, explosives, etc. have been used; lives were lost; and the economic impact which would therefore last for ages would soon hit the country. In war, the only one that benefits is actually no one. Everyone is lost during the war due to its overall impact to everyone, The reality behind the war is perfectly said in the quote. Maybe one can claim that they've won the war. The same doesn't mean they're at the top and haven't affected by the war. It completely destroys the growth. Most of the time the war takes place in growing countries which is kind of hidden politics to down the growth of country. In a war everything is a loss, except the country who sells weapons to the war participants were the benefitting one.
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By the way, a cool nuance regarding official Russian data on Russia's GDP. I will not explain what this indicator means and how it is calculated. So here is what is interesting, in the realities of Russia. GDP is something that is consumed inside the country, for the population and economy of the country (this is very primitive). So in Russia 2023, about 50%+ of the budget goes to the military-industrial complex. That's shells, tanks, ammunition. All of which are soon to be destroyed in Ukraine. I.e. it only brings costs. But for beautiful statistics, the Russian Ministry of Finance counts it as "industrial production" and counts it in GDP. So ... count for yourself how "beautiful" everything is there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Ah yes. You will ask a question - where do such figures - 50% ? I agree, without argumentation is not very beautiful ! I correct ! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) 1. In the Russian Federation, the government has classified a quarter of all expenditures for 2023. This is all the expenses for a "2-3 week special military operation" 2. 25% is the official data on OPEN cost items from the budget. So irreversible degradation is exactly what is happening to the Russian economy now.
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