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March 21, 2023, 03:57:47 PM
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.

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March 21, 2023, 05:31:46 PM
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I am currently even on a few of the altcoins I hold and thinking of moving them into Bitcoin so that I can make Bitcoin around 50% of my portfolio.
Even if i don't do this sort of diversification (Bitcoin and Altcoins), i think this moves makes more sense, it would mean in my own view that the 50% of your portfolio in Bitcoin is somewhat safe, whilst the other 50% in altcoins is unpredictable, if they pump and you are quick enough to sell, then good for you, but if they dump or do not appreciate, then your bad. But at least you've already secured 50% of your portfolio in an asset that has an actual utility.
I think Bitcoin will hit around $120k in 2025 but that will not be enough for me to sell I would rather accumulate more to the point where I own almost one full Bitcoin and then sell it in the 2029 bull run when I think will the price will be around $350k or more.
2029 is quite a long time from now, but we can just speculate and wait for what is ahead (if we are alive by then), but you are bullish on Bitcoin and so are many other people and myself as well, so we'd just continually accumulate and sell when we think is the right time to do so.

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March 21, 2023, 05:52:45 PM
 #43

Yea I agree with your synopsis un_rank, Altcoins are a gamble whereas Bitcoin is not
a gamble.
Bitcoin is a a gamble as well cause there is still some level of risk involved, for it to no longer be a gamble then there needs to be guaranteed profit at anytime you plan to sell.
Bitcoin is much safer than all altcoins out there, but bears some risk.

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March 21, 2023, 06:12:22 PM
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What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?

I guess it depends what you mean by a Bitcoin bull-run. In 2019 price increased by more than 4x, but ultimately came back down to re-test near the lows in 2020. So in the short-term then maybe a 2x from here could be seen as realistic this year, but really I think it will be about 2024/2025 bull market that will see the real increase as well as ATH. At so far based on 4 year cycles this would be the prediction post halving.

It therefore completely depends on your time-frame. If you are looking for a "quick flip" 2x in value, then that may well be achieved this year already. But if you are hoping for something more like 10x then that could take many years, quite likely more than just a few imo. At least Bitcoin's "old ATH to new ATH" % gains have been decreasing since existence, so for 10x it may take many more years to come, even a decade.


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March 21, 2023, 06:14:45 PM
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Bitcoin is a a gamble as well cause there is still some level of risk involved, for it to no longer be a gamble then there needs to be guaranteed profit at anytime you plan to sell.
Bitcoin is much safer than all altcoins out there, but bears some risk.
It's great to be familiar with investment risks, but at least it shouldn't make you too frustrated. Investing is all about planning long term returns, but if you are planning short term returns then you have to trade.

Investing is all about how long you can hold, while you also need to plan for returns. Plan now, I think you will reap the return of that patience and optimism in the long term. Do not think of investing as a gamble, even though prices fluctuate and the risk of loss is very real.

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March 21, 2023, 06:16:29 PM
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In the next bull run, I am expecting Bitcoins to reach a new all time high price, so if we measure the price from the current price, then definitely it will be like almost 3x of the price. But as I said earlier, if we greed for more profits then definitely we gonna take any wrong step and for that reason we will make mistakes also, so don’t expect too much from the Bitcoins now. Observe the market and graph and invest accordingly. Set a lower withdrawal target and make a withdraw instantly when you reach that target.
I wouldn't really suggest the same thing but everyone has their own approach. I usually buy and hold as long as possible, I do not have a goal or a target because I believe that it should be going as high as possible and I wouldn't be really dealing with anything like that.

It is smart to do it this way because it allows people to have some sort of understanding that bitcoin goes up no matter what in the future. Of course people can think differently, I believe in this but I am not against anyone else having any other plans, if you want to put out a goal or a target price then you should do that, maybe yours is better and you could make more profit that way, I wouldn't know.

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March 21, 2023, 06:32:29 PM
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.
After halving it won't automatically gonna pump the market yet, it depends on the trend or hype of the market that's why it will pump. Although, the market is unpredictable but you can make your speculation analysis based on the previous bull run. Bitcoin price will make a new ATH record that's for sure but the last bull run it took 1 year before Bitcoin reach a new ATH so the price might be changing in constant depending on the market condition.

People should do their own research if they want to make a huge profit during the bull run.

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March 21, 2023, 06:41:24 PM
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In the next bull run, I am expecting Bitcoins to reach a new all time high price, so if we measure the price from the current price, then definitely it will be like almost 3x of the price. But as I said earlier, if we greed for more profits then definitely we gonna take any wrong step and for that reason we will make mistakes also, so don’t expect too much from the Bitcoins now. Observe the market and graph and invest accordingly. Set a lower withdrawal target and make a withdraw instantly when you reach that target.
I wouldn't really suggest the same thing but everyone has their own approach. I usually buy and hold as long as possible, I do not have a goal or a target because I believe that it should be going as high as possible and I wouldn't be really dealing with anything like that.

It is smart to do it this way because it allows people to have some sort of understanding that bitcoin goes up no matter what in the future. Of course people can think differently, I believe in this but I am not against anyone else having any other plans, if you want to put out a goal or a target price then you should do that, maybe yours is better and you could make more profit that way, I wouldn't know.


OP is just expecting 2x growth which he will be selling his BTC. It got to be bad if a short-term investor expects this gain but not got it. Maybe he needs the money fast unlike you who hold it for a long period of time.

Not everyone has the patience to wait long til the bull market. With the current situation where jobs are rare and there is inflation, I also keep my trading strategy going for there is a chance that I might be able to accumulate more. I think OP should just do the same if he ain't needing the money for something.

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March 21, 2023, 07:46:51 PM
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.
After halving it won't automatically gonna pump the market yet, it depends on the trend or hype of the market that's why it will pump. Although, the market is unpredictable but you can make your speculation analysis based on the previous bull run. Bitcoin price will make a new ATH record that's for sure but the last bull run it took 1 year before Bitcoin reach a new ATH so the price might be changing in constant depending on the market condition.

People should do their own research if they want to make a huge profit during the bull run.
People do really get the wrong idea about halving on which they do really expect that there would be some immediate pump on the time it do happens without even trying to look back on what happened on

previous halving which it did really take some several months before the price starts to kick in.This is why we should really be anticipating that similar scenario on this upcoming halving,although we cant

really be sure on what it would looks like but its better to have that way rather than on minding about some immediate pump.This isnt how the market behaves or works because
it could pump without having any reason at all.

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March 22, 2023, 01:34:05 AM
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I'm sure if March can touch $30k then April can go up 2x or close to the ATH that happened at the end of 2021, of course all of these things can happen if there are no obstacles like what happened in 2022, namely the many scam cases including top exchanges FTX.

But it looks like obstacles will continue to appear as time goes by and no one can forbid that there will be very good price increases in the months to come. but what are you going to do with all of this because profits or losses will always haunt you.

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It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.
You have to hold all the assets in the portfolio until the price increases again. Fluctuating movements are always unpredictable, it takes mental strength and patience when the value of your investment goes down.
I don't expect much in the 2024/25 bull run, as long as my investment value increases, it will be enough for me.

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I'm sure if March can touch $30k then April can go up 2x or close to the ATH that happened at the end of 2021, of course all of these things can happen if there are no obstacles like what happened in 2022, namely the many scam cases including top exchanges FTX.
Bad news for the crypto space is the biggest barrier that will very clearly affect the price of Bitcoin and if in the next two months there is no bad news that can affect the movement of Bitcoin in the market then surely an increase in price to $ 30K is a possibility because there is not much panic that arises in people who already hold Bitcoin now and who will try to buy into holding it long-term.

But it looks like obstacles will continue to appear as time goes by and no one can forbid that there will be very good price increases in the months to come. but what are you going to do with all of this because profits or losses will always haunt you.
Those who are used to profit or loss will never be afraid of any market conditions as long as they still really believe in Bitcoin and will never pay attention to obstacles that will occur because there have been many examples in the past where when there were obstacles in the market, Bitcoin was still able to overcome them. increases after certain constraints are resolved properly.
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It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.
You have to hold all the assets in the portfolio until the price increases again. Fluctuating movements are always unpredictable, it takes mental strength and patience when the value of your investment goes down.
I don't expect much in the 2024/25 bull run, as long as my investment value increases, it will be enough for me.


I like 70% for bitcoin and 30% for altcoins, which ensures both the profit and safety of our investment. But I'm a bit skeptical when you say you don't expect too much of the upcoming bull run. We all invest in bitcoin, the cryptocurrency, simply because it can give us greater returns than any other traditional investment. We have taken a high risk when investing in bitcoin, so there is nothing wrong with expecting high returns. It's well worth it for what we trade, I still expect high returns but am not too delusional.

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March 22, 2023, 10:51:16 AM
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.
The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.
The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.

We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.
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It would be more lovely if you won't try to calculate it every year, just keep on holding it, the bigger returns will surely come to us someday.
We are not even sure if there is a bull run that will happen, so don't expect too much. It will still rely on how the demand will increase so in short, it will be up to us on how strong our hands will be at keeping all the Bitcoin that we have. As long as we can keep it at this kind of phase, many investors will be forced to buy at the same price and will not wait for a bear market anymore, which means value increasing.
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It's not a bad idea to keep 30% of the total 100% in Bitcoin. How about the other way around, 70% in Bitcoin and the rest in different Altcoins. Of course your portfolio will be very cool, imagine if on a bull you get more than 3x profit.
This is intended as asset diversification. If you only have one asset in your portfolio, it means that you will only consider one risk of profit fluctuation as well as one possible profit. Meanwhile, if you have two or three different assets in your portfolio, the risk of profit fluctuations can be minimized.

You can consider an asset diversification strategy to maintain profit stability and also minimize risk. That's fine of course, but only if you choose good assets in your portfolio. Apart from being able to minimize the risk of fluctuations in profit, you should also be aware that diversification can increase your losses if the main assets that dominate market capitalization experience dumps. You can see the correlation when bitcoin goes down, it definitely affects the altcoins. So choose altcoins to diversify assets wisely and consider your risks.

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March 22, 2023, 02:58:38 PM
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Of course the hope of many people in Bullrun will have great returns. However, it is very difficult to predict how much return on the next Bullrun. But, I am sure that when the next Bitcoin Halving the price of Bitcoin will again set a new ATH record. So holding Bitcoin until Halving occurs is a good step to get big profits.
The next halving is indeed possible for a better price increase in Bitcoin, but to reach a new ATH again I think it is also still uncertain because considering that the price of Bitcoin is still below $ 30K so Bitcoin needs more increases to reach a new ATH in next bull run. But I am also still optimistic that there is Bitcoin for this because there is a possibility of a much bigger increase in Bitcoin this year.

We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.
Yeah, $30k is possible within this month or at least next month April. And with all the negative things happening on the banking system, people are now into crypto specially bitcoin.

So I will not be surprised to see that at least at the end of the year, we can reach $50k. And that momentum will carry over till next year because that's when the bull run will start right after bitcoin halving. For now, let's just hope that nothing will happen in 2023, no black swan event that will cause the price to falter once more.

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We are only a few thousand away from $30k which we could hit in a matter of days/weeks.

I think by the end of the year Bitcoin will be at least $40k and once we start to gain momentum going into 2024 won't take long for us to reach $50k and then from there pushing onto the all time high.
But it's not easy to reach the price of $30k because as we know, bitcoin price goes up and down and even touched $27k some time ago. But fortunately, now the price has started to increase again to $ 28k and there is a tendency to go higher. Hopefully, the $30k price can be reached shortly, opening up more opportunities to continue bitcoin's long rally.

But once it hits $30k, the bitcoin price will go through many ups and downs, which can send many people into a panic if they are not properly prepared. So from here onwards, we need peace of mind to see an opportunity to continue to increase the amount of bitcoins as our investment.

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Have been in crypto just over a year now so have yet to experience a bull market and up till now I have just bought and held.

Currently my portfolio is 10% down and am not planning on selling any until I 2x at least.

Bitcoin takes up 30% of my portfolio with the rest in altcoins.

What is everyone expecting in 2024/25 bull run? Is a 10x a good return or should we be hoping for more?
It determined on what you have in mind, if you are into short term investment, its obvious that you have make some reasonable profit depending on the fraction you invested,  but long term investors want the increment to continue to accelerate so that they can make more profits,  so what long term investors concentrate is to ensure we have continuity acceleration of market so that mega profits can be realised. The decision is determined by you if you are running for long-term or short-term.
The OP looks like he is into longer-terms because he said he is into crypto for more than a year now. If he managed to wait this long, then I think it's better to increase his target. He shouldn't sell at 2x or 3x only but over 5x might be a reasonable one.

As much as long-term investors want the price to rise, they must also ensure that they constantly increase the coins in their bags. They can achieve this by mostly doing a DCA without minding the price. Maybe some are waiting for a correction or a short dip in the price before they invest because this is also possible because cryptos are still unstable or volatile in other words.

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