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March 26, 2023, 05:14:43 PM
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The causes of poverty are not solely caused by external factors such as war or global economic conditions, but are also the result of systemic problems such as inequality, corruption and inadequate governance.
I think what you say is quite right, because the cause of poverty does occur through a number of things as you mentioned and I think there is one more thing that can cause poverty to easily increase. This is a lack of jobs for young people with a certain level of education who have already graduated from college. They often find it difficult to find jobs that can generate money, so most of them also fall into poverty very easily.

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Regarding the problem of poverty, in my opinion, this is a complex problem, and cannot be solved by the government alone or by individuals alone. This requires a collective effort and a multi-faceted approach involving government policies, private sector initiatives and individual action.
This is indeed a very complex matter, so to eradicate it requires special action from several parties which do not only involve the government, because community parties and the private sector who have the ability to fix this also need to move to reduce the poverty rate so that in the future there were no more difficulties among the common people. So clearly this is not only a special task of the government alone.

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March 26, 2023, 05:42:23 PM
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Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
Correct. we have to trust ourselves more to change our life to a better financial situation.
and when talking about the role of the government which is currently disappointing its people a lot, I think that is also happening in my country. But I see that the central government has done its best. but it's the local level government down that sometimes can't satisfy the people. often even an aid from the central government does not reach its true purpose for the poor. and even more assistance is received by people who have a fairly stable economic condition and are even rich.

but of course we can't blame the entire government because I believe there are still people who are honest in the government. but unfortunately I personally also consider that the majority of them cannot be trusted at all.

then we cannot entrust the change in our life to the government. we do have to fight for ourselves. and we must get used to not expecting any help from other people or even the government.

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March 26, 2023, 09:43:43 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I know the government has its responsibility to end poverty, but I don’t think they will eventually put an end to it if also the people are not doing their part. Both should help each other so that poverty if not totally gone, at least it’s reduced or controlled. But take note that we should not rely completely from the government, we should also learn to work on our own and find a stable source of income so that we can provide for our family, and not just being dependent on what the government can give to us.

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March 26, 2023, 10:07:16 PM
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We can't blame the current war, because we can see the condition of the country before the war, didn't it experience difficulties?
actually the poverty of one country was seen before the war with the fluctuations in the prices of food, oil and natural gas, before but we didn't realize it early on because we still had money and when our funds were low we just realized it and always blamed the government,
actually how much money do we have if to live will be enough,

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March 26, 2023, 10:34:20 PM
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Depends on the government. If corruption is a very big deal, like how Mona Sahlin was prosecuted for buying a single toblerone bar with her government credit card, then yeah then that type of government can figure out all the issues, including poverty to health to education and everything else, no problem will happen in that nation. Why? Because the citizens and the government branches have the culture and the power to do that, and they know that's the right thing to do. But unfortunately in most parts of the world, we have people stealing billions from the taxes and nobody does anything about it, and citizens still vote for those people because "the other guy is evil". So you can steal 10 billion dollars from taxes of those people and same people you stole from will elect you again if you scare them enough about the other candidate. That nation won't be ending poverty, impossible.

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March 26, 2023, 11:16:40 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
It's very obvious and understandable that any country having a crisis always experience hardship, because they will be blockage of boarder so importation and exportation of goods and services will not moving frequently in the country, so therefore i believe that will contribute almost thirty five percent (35%) of increment of items in the country and it will look like salary's is too low for human to survive.

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March 27, 2023, 09:04:34 AM
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Poor people will continue to exist on earth so long as life exists. Those who think it can be ended don't sincerely understand the dynamics. It's not going to change. From centuries ago, poor people existed and I don't think it's going to be any different now. Everyone can't be rich even if government provides for all what is required to become rich. Poverty shouldn't be seen as something abominable. It should be recognized as a major part of life.

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March 27, 2023, 01:43:36 PM
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Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.

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March 27, 2023, 01:56:14 PM
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When self-interest is affected, some people always find a way to blame the happenings around it, and here I don't completely agree with the OP on seeing that as the cause of their poverty. a country. Where the government can play an important role in poverty reduction and hunger eradication by implementing social and economic support policies and programs for low income people and impoverished areas. And if you only look in one direction of the problem, it is not fair to all that the people and the leaders are trying to overcome the common predicament.

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March 27, 2023, 02:15:14 PM
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Poverty is already on there before the war happened. It just make things worse. I think if the individual have a chance to make his financial better maybe it can end poverty. Plus the goverment is support their people by open jobs and make some regulations that benefit people.

Jobs and education really are the keys. I am just glad right now here in our country that there are a lot of projects here about roads to improve our economy as well as generate jobs for people, which is very helpful, and also with education, it is free tuition here, which means it can ease the burden on the parents. It doesn't mean that it will end poverty, but some of those families could improve their lives.
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Lucky are those who have honest and hard-working governments who want to solve primary economic issues that a country has been facing. Unfortunately, we have a different type of government here in our country. They take advantage of the crisis to push corruption and to make money from it. They even make the crisis a business where they could generate more profit from their citizens who are aching because of the continuous increase of primary goods. So relying on the government will only drag us more into poverty. As much as possible, we better grind on our own so we could deal with the situation without asking for help from the government.
That is the reality. Most of the government are not pro-people even when they are expected to be. Maybe because that will not satisfy their personal desires so instead of working to alleviate poverty, they are making the people poorer and poorer. Reality sucks. The reason why people should never completely rely on the government to solve the problem with poverty. People should be more responsible to work on their own, so they can raise their own family and give them the necessities in life.

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March 27, 2023, 07:26:03 PM
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it becomes funny when people always debate about how the government solves poverty in a country.
But we don't realize that in the world there must always be a balance, between rich and poor, between night and day, and good and evil and so on.
Do we not understand what if we live without balance, we have created this world with full balance. Let's imagine if we all became rich people, then who would be called rich, who would do what people do, such as farming, gardening and so on.
So I think it's destiny in this world between rich and poor.



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March 27, 2023, 08:16:00 PM
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Someone here can explain to me - why do people think that the government SHOULD provide a comfortable life, and the citizens of the country themselves should only sit, wait, and until the state has solved the problem FOR THEM, suffer? Smiley
It actually sounds very funny. At least because the majority does not understand how the state and the state economy work. And they do not understand where the eradication of poverty, for example, can come from. For starters, one simple word - TAXES! If everyone pays them, as in Switzerland, for example, then they live like in Switzerland. Do you know that the population there opposed the increase in the introduction of an unconditional basic income? Which would provide everyone with an even higher standard of living? They probably didn't know. Do you know why? Think!
And remember an even simpler thing - the state - does not print money to distribute! It collects taxes and in proportion to taxes, according to priorities, divides them into pensions, and provides a minimum living standard, and medicine, and much more. Those. forms an acceptable standard of living! But at the expense of taxes and adequate distribution. And if the government that the population chooses itself is corrupt, and the population does not pay taxes, then it is stupid to dream of "solving the problem of poverty"!

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March 27, 2023, 08:23:18 PM
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We can't blame the current war, because we can see the condition of the country before the war, didn't it experience difficulties?
actually the poverty of one country was seen before the war with the fluctuations in the prices of food, oil and natural gas, before but we didn't realize it early on because we still had money and when our funds were low we just realized it and always blamed the government,
actually how much money do we have if to live will be enough,

War will contribute to poverty irrespective of how the country situation has been, it can get from good to bad and it can get from bad to worse, don't ignore war because it can destroy what country has been building for yearss even if the country has riches in aboundant.
Bad governant is another point, when a country has bad governing, nothing will prosper in that country irrespective of what they do, it may lead to curruption and people will start stealing wealth for them selfs while the rest of the people so far without good food and high inflation.

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March 27, 2023, 08:28:23 PM
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I think the government alone cannot end the poverty.  It needs the participation of its citizen.  The government may lead the drive to end the poverty but the citizend are the major actor on this one.  Government can make programs, projects and information drive for ending poverty while the citizen are the one participiating, maintaining and accomplishing these projects.  After all, the program of the government needs its citizen to make the program realized. 

So, IMHO, Government and citizen working together can really make a way to end the poverty.  No man is an island so cooperation and collaboration between the government and citizen is the best answer to end poverty.
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Poor people will continue to exist on earth so long as life exists. Those who think it can be ended don't sincerely understand the dynamics. It's not going to change. From centuries ago, poor people existed and I don't think it's going to be any different now. Everyone can't be rich even if government provides for all what is required to become rich. Poverty shouldn't be seen as something abominable. It should be recognized as a major part of life.
Correct. If it's about poverty that will always exist in every country then of course it will always exist. even in developed countries we will always be able to find homeless people.

but the problem is about the majority and minority in the country. if a country is managed honestly by its government I believe the level of prosperity of a country will be more guaranteed. because state revenues such as from taxes and others will be returned to the development of the country itself. In contrast to a country that is dominated by a corrupt government, most of the money generated from state revenues from taxes and so on will probably only return to the pockets of officials. and the rest is then used for the development of the country.

So the government's role is still very important. but that does not mean that every poverty suffered by the people is caused by a corrupt government. no, I don't think so. because actually everyone is responsible for their own condition. even every year there will always be people who are originally rich and experience bankruptcy until they fall into poverty. and conversely there will always be poor people who succeed in changing their lives for the better and even become rich. and it is indeed part of the cycle of life that we cannot get rid of. and of course the government can do nothing about the cycle either. but talking about the prosperity of a country, it is clear that the government plays an important role. because after all they have been trusted by their people to make the country more advanced. but the contribution of society is also very much needed. so the people and the government must work together in this matter. namely in building a more developed country.

if it talks about poverty individually then it is very unwise if there are people who even blame the government. because actually he is responsible for himself. everyone should have their own motivation, inspiration and innovation. keep working hard, keep learning and keep improving themselves.

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March 27, 2023, 09:02:27 PM
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In my country we've got separate category as poverty line. Even from that politicians does corruption. Based on the category of poverty line, anyone who is able to spend 0.4$ in urban area and 0.3285$ per day in the rural areas were considered as poverty. Even with such a calculation my country stands at the 107th position among the entire countries on Global Hunger Index. Government along with the people should've have better plans and execution to eradicate poverty which won't happen overnight.

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Government is can not stop poverty from what I'm seeing so far, I believe that government only care for provision of what is relevant in the country not to eliminate poverty,  but a government that have the people in mind will directly, care for the people and create employment opportunities for them.

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March 27, 2023, 09:59:31 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
In my country, I would say the government is really making its obligation to help the citizens particularly those who are poor people. But even so, I cannot say that they can put an end completely to poverty. There’s always a need for cooperation between the people and the government to fight against poverty. Otherwise, if only the government will act on it, leaving the people completely dependent on the government, we will never come to alleviate poverty.

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Government is can not stop poverty from what I'm seeing so far, I believe that government only care for provision of what is relevant in the country not to eliminate poverty,  but a government that have the people in mind will directly, care for the people and create employment opportunities for them.
And that's the direct impact to the people and can be seen if the government really does something for the sake of the people.

But to eliminate poverty, you just can't ask them to do it on every single life and person that's on their country. That's a personal matter that everyone has to deal with.

They're there as a guide and if they've got aide that's being assigned to their citizens, that's better.

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