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April 03, 2023, 10:53:47 PM
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
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April 03, 2023, 10:58:37 PM
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
the government of current days does not care for the survival of the Citizens the only thing they are after is for embezzlement of fund that will be used for infrastructure and the development of rural area and that the graphical environment so government now does not even create job opportunity for the Citizens to have a good life that is why corruption has taken all over countries

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April 04, 2023, 03:12:57 PM
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I'm sure the presence of bitcoin will not be too helpful for the poor, most investors are rich people so when bitcoin becomes more popular the rich get richer, whatever the government does it will be difficult to eliminate poverty.
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April 07, 2023, 08:03:25 PM
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I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.

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April 07, 2023, 10:37:49 PM
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I think nothing can change poverty other than ourselves the government will only pave the way and we will walk there don't depend too much on people we have to start from ourselves at least our intention is there.

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April 07, 2023, 10:51:01 PM
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I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.

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April 07, 2023, 11:42:53 PM
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I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.
You are right, we cannot depend on the government or anyone but enough to rely on ourselves to work hard to get decent results to improve our economy, but I think that the government has an important role to play in opening job vacancies to the community because after the pandemic it has been difficult to get jobs. if the government opens job vacancies, more the economy will be improved so that data from that country shows that economic welfare conditions have improved.


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April 08, 2023, 01:33:33 AM
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I still remember my government studies which say some of the roles of the government is to provide security for its citizen and basic social amenities among many, this shows that government has a role to play as well as a private institution and individual. The government won't do your role.
Private institutions and individuals only belong to civilians who have no government involvement in them except for the owner himself who wants to make cooperation with the government in his own country. Meanwhile, such as providing security and public facilities and other infrastructure is indeed the role of the government, but when there are residents who are not satisfied with one of the facilities from the government.

It would be nice for him to find a solution and submit suggestions to the government if it could be useful for many people because the government does not guarantee the satisfaction of just one person in his country. So you really have to be able to consider this and also sort it out properly so that there are no misunderstandings between the citizens and the government.


I think nothing can change poverty other than ourselves the government will only pave the way and we will walk there don't depend too much on people we have to start from ourselves at least our intention is there.
Poverty can indeed be changed, but poverty cannot be eradicated because when you feel that you are already richer than other people, you also have to make sure that no one else is richer than you and that is a very difficult thing so that the rich and the poor will always be exist in this world even though you can live comfortably and luxuriously according to your own version. Because usually people are easier to count because there are not too many, but this is precisely the case for the poor, who on average are always more than the rich in most countries.
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April 08, 2023, 02:20:42 AM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
The most you can depend on the government is some minor assistance during emergencies or help during the short term. In the long run, you'd still need to rely on yourself. The government is simply there to support after all, and possibly answer some immediate problems that crop up in case of emergencies but that's it. As for salary raise idrk how it works but I think only in drastic cases would the government ask private companies (if it was possible even) to increase the minimum wage?

Tbf though, it also doesn't help that the society we have only pushes the idea of the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.

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April 08, 2023, 04:32:11 AM
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When it comes to salary, you can't really feel that the government is taking action on it, or if it has, it is just small because raising a salary is very costly, even if it is just a few cents, and they don't have a budget, and mostly government prioritizes physical projects like roads and ETC. But if the government really wants to raise the salary, they can, but mostly they will sacrifice other things. Even the best president that we've got in the country was able to increase some salary, but still we are struggling. It is better to rely on yourself than mocking the government, as it is still useless.
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April 08, 2023, 04:51:01 AM
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in the end it all depends on ourselves. The government can indeed help but only as a facilitator. while how the result is depending on ourselves personally. if we work hard and not be wasteful people. then of course we improve the tarap of our lives. but if we don't work hard and waste a lot of time then of course we can't possibly change the tarap of our own life. government has its own role in building a country and maintaining national security. but regarding poverty in each individualism it will depend on the individual itself.

Working hard only can't get us the solution to end poverty in our society but working smart will. If you noticed most hard workers like labourers and repair guys don't earn much wages compared to the office workers that uses their brain for the works. When we work smart we invent things that'll help humanity and in return we get cash rewards and become comfortable because we can now provide for ourselves.

Using China as an example, they're one of the world must advance nation and that's because majority of them are technology minded, they constantly invent things that can be used to make life easier and they have the world best economy with lot of them been millionaires due to their involvement in technology.

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April 08, 2023, 03:04:12 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
I believe the government has a very big role in  poverty eradication. In fact, they are proposing a lot of programs if not to end but at least to lessen poverty, but the question is when will these programs be put into action? And can they be sustainable enough to eradicate poverty in the long run? The clear answer to this is that no one can help the people but only theirselves. If they won’t search for a job and work, they will forever remain poor and continue struggling to make a living. Though government provides assistance but they’re just good temporarily, at the end of the day the people should be responsible to get to work so they can provide the basic needs of their family even without relying from the government.
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April 08, 2023, 03:26:56 PM
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.
Poverty will always exist in every country, even countries that are said to be the most developed countries, they can only reduce the poverty rate from the average number of poor people with services and facilities as you say. Each country has a minimum income for its citizens, which can be said that the standardization of poverty in each country is different so it would be quite difficult to say that poverty can be eliminated in various ways.
For example, in your country, people who are said to be poor are people whose income is below $500 in one month, and in my country, people who are said to be poor are those who have incomes below $300.
Yes, basically it is ourselves who are able to change poverty, but if the opportunity and development of your abilities are not facilitated by the government it will be quite difficult for some people to make progress, as an example in my country where there are lots of young people who are smart and successful in making products. feasible for the benefit of the community but always being hit by the government and banning the circulation of products made by youth, I mean it is not easy if there is no support from the government.
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April 08, 2023, 03:32:37 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.

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April 08, 2023, 05:01:30 PM
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Review the shrimp laws they made and believe that all of them are for the benefit of certain party groups that occupy their respective positions. The demonstrations seemed as if they had never been heard of and most of what they proposed was not implemented properly. Only false promises that the rich will remain rich and the poor will remain in poverty. Raising food prices, high taxes but the proceeds go into the pockets of officials. That is the picture in any country, if we don't have an income sector, we will still be oppressed, the jobs they promised will not really be fulfilled. The democratic state is only a mask for the oligarchs to carry out their goals.
What you said above is the reality of certain countries, the oligarchs only act on behalf of the people to carry out their strategy, so don't expect promises from the government to eradicate poverty but instead they emphasize paying taxes for reasons of infrastructure development and the interests of the people, instead of actually that they use tax money for their interests and we have been oppressed from tax costs. I'm fed up with seeing their actions that actually don't care about the level of poverty increasing, even many officials commit corruption when the people's economic conditions are worst. so don't expect government promises because so far nothing has materialized for the welfare of the people, it's better to focus on your current job even though you are paid below the minimum but it is enough for daily needs.

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Once again, I want to ask everyone a question:
- What is your confidence or expectations based on that the state is OBLIGED to guarantee a comfortable life for everyone?
- where do you think the state takes money for the formation of social benefits?
- what does your position look like on the other side of the state - its citizens and their obligations - taxes, respect for the law, etc. ?

And let me remind you again - "the state does not have its own money, the state only has money in the form of taxes that it receives from citizens and businesses." And this means that all citizens of the country themselves form the level of well-being in the country, and it is the citizens who, with their taxes, help to ensure a comfortable life for other citizens who cannot independently provide for themselves at an acceptable level. This is an axiom, this is how any state works!

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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Do you know how many people live in your country of residence? then try to calculate whether the government's presence can reach all citizens to solve the problem of economic inequality individually. Setting the price of basic needs is their responsibility and the government must have a way to solve it and the state has regulations stipulated in the law to regulate basic prices in the market, the government under the power of the president has the responsibility to maintain continuity of basic commodities on the market through related agencies . Inflation and recession cause a lot of problems, making it difficult for most countries to find a solution formula, so that they will affect basic needs and other needs.

It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.

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April 08, 2023, 07:46:56 PM
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The government pretty much has the allocation and the resources to. But corruption and greed often take over and fucks with what is otherwise a good plan. For instance, it is a universal fact that a high quality education is something that would almost equate to success in the future, and there are miltiple avenues that the government can takento improve upon the current education system and give even the marginalized community to fight against the modernized world, yet as it stands today countries that are supposed to be rich are still poor, with very low state of education systems.

So yes the government plays a larger role in all of this than we expect, we were iust conditioned to think that the government has nothing to do eith our success when in fact, from the moment we are born in this world we are being controlled by the invisible hand of the Aristocrats.
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It's useless to hope that the government is fully present to help each individual, because there are many problems that they have to deal with to ensure the continuity of a country. If people don't have a better lifestyle and don't have a way to get out of the economic gap, then the chaos will increasingly bring them to the stage of distress, moreover recession and inflation will continue to increase from time to time.
Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.

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Using China as an example, they're one of the world must advance nation and that's because majority of them are technology minded, they constantly invent things that can be used to make life easier and they have the world best economy with lot of them been millionaires due to their involvement in technology.
I think this is Japan. They're like living advance to the most nations like 10 years afar. And their government is playing a huge role for the policies that they do and how they've made every citizen there to be dedicated to their work.

So giving Japan as an example, look at the mindset of most people there. They don't even want to get married and just want to focus on their jobs. When we say focus, they really are focused on it and dedicated up to the point that they only get a single job and company and stays there until they get old.

Looking at the poverty rate there isn't that much and they're making laws like in every or some prefecture where they'll be giving money just for the people to move there and live there for certain period of time to help them economically and that's how the government intervenes with people's lives there.

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