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April 08, 2023, 08:11:34 PM
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To be sincere have you seen any Government solve any situation, what they do is make it worse and create more problems, Poverty is a very good tool in the hands of the Government to keep people under control, just look at the amount they claimed they have spent to eradicate poverty and after spending this ridiculous amount, Poverty keeps increasing. The thing is that we have more dump voters than sensible voters that keep voting for this set of politicians. Just look at France, they voted for Macron, he came to power then stab them in the back to keep his friends in high places happy, can you imagine, his country is burning but decided to go to China just to make business people in this country happy. Government can solve poverty if they want, but to be rich is in the hands of individuals


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April 08, 2023, 08:22:20 PM
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IMO governments are usually the cause of poverty because they want to control everything and on that road to total control there are impossible choices to be made.

An example of such control was the US covid lockdown, that turned into a chain of bankruptcies, so the government stepped in to fix it by printing money, which increased inflation and weakened the dollar. Now they want to fix that mistake by increasing rates, but this cannot possibly work because rate hikes work only when people are scared of it. When you're in deep shit and people see it, they aren't scared, they expect you to pivot soon, so they won't suddenly start hoarding the dollar because you could turn on them at any moment, but if they keep spending you, the government are in trouble. At this point the US FED is compromised, no matter what happens.

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April 08, 2023, 08:40:55 PM
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Actually I don't fully agree with your opinion because basically the government also has a responsibility to improve the economic standard of its citizens. While governments may never reach every individual, they have played an important role in reducing the percentage of economic problems to the lowest status in society.

The government's task is a complex task to regulate everything in such a way that it reaches a good level, but it will greatly depend on how strong the country's economy is. Don't compare developed and developing countries with third world countries in the process, but look at it case by case. However, individual independence and good human resources will help reduce the percentage of poverty.
Of course you don't have to completely agree with some of the ideas I want to convey, because as far as I know we are used to not being completely dependent on government policies. Even in terms of regulations, the government has the responsibility to provide guarantees for the welfare of its people. My question is how far can the government reach all levels of society? Did you know that most countries are currently experiencing almost the same problem, inflation and recession are problems facing the world, including the OP's country, you and me, depending on varying degrees of severity.

What can we do and what solutions are offered by the government? I believe that each country has its own way of managing this problem and the point is to find a solution to the problem at hand. The role of the individual is also very important to raise awareness of each other in finding solutions. If the presence of the government cannot fully cover basic needs, you can find solutions to meet these needs. One way might be to apply the following steps?

  • Utilizing vacant land to plant basic needs for life support, such as rice, vegetables or adapted to staple foods in their respective countries.
  • Take advantage of existing resources to meet all needs, even if the scope is small, at least for each individual led in the household.
  • Look for a special formula to get out of the problem of inflation and recession, don't think too far because the most important thing is the availability of opportunities for each individual's life.

Basically all problems have a solution to be solved, even though the scope is small or different, the presence of each individual is also seen as important to prevent the problem from becoming more complicated and the government will also take its role in solving this problem. If everyone is moving and according to their respective abilities, then I'm sure this problem will be resolved slowly. Developed countries and developing countries are indeed very different when viewed, but there are patterns that can be applied where the point is to find solutions and be able to overcome them.

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April 08, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
To sum it up, it has to be said that the war between Russia and Ukraine is largely responsible for the consequences of the entire world economy. However, it will also not be correct to blame this war only for the worse economic condition of another country. In many cases, those who are in the government management of that country can also be responsible because of their corruption system. And in order to remove this predicament, it is very necessary to keep the government management correct and free from corruption, as well as to play the effective role of the citizens.


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April 08, 2023, 08:48:15 PM
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In my opinion, poverty occurs apart from the conflict between Ukraine and Russia because it has contributed to rising gas prices which have resulted in rising prices of basic commodities.  Poverty cannot be solved only by the efforts of one party, be it the government or the people. Collaborative and synergistic efforts from both parties are needed to achieve the goal of overcoming poverty.

Governments have an important role to play in expanding access to the resources and services needed to overcome poverty, such as access to education, health, clean water, sanitation, and decent jobs.  However, the people also have an important role in reducing poverty in society.

As people, we can contribute by helping people in need, such as providing financial support or taking part in volunteer programs that help reduce poverty and improve the social and economic conditions of society.  In addition, we can strengthen our own capacity by increasing education, skills and work experience to increase job opportunities and increase personal economic well-being.

In overcoming poverty, the roles of the people and the government are interrelated and mutually reinforcing one another.  By working together and contributing in our respective capacities, we can achieve the goals of overcoming poverty and improving the social and economic conditions of society as a whole.
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April 08, 2023, 09:12:14 PM
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The government that the interest of the people at heart will provide the service that will make life easier for people through the provision of social amenities, economic growth, and empower people through job creation but no government can end poverty.
Ending poverty depends on us.

I concur with you that the government cannot eradicate poverty, but it can take some actions to lower the rate of poverty in the nation. I don't think many people will take their lives seriously if the government entirely eliminates poverty by providing for individuals' needs. Since the government can only support us through better economic conditions,standard education, good hospitals etc.it is now up to us to end poverty by working hard and find thing reasonable doing for survival.

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April 08, 2023, 09:23:31 PM
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The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.

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April 08, 2023, 09:58:25 PM
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The government is obliged to provide the means to eradicate poverty but its in the hands of the people if they will do their part as citizens of the government which will help them to be one step away from poverty. So I believe everything still relies from the decision of the citizens. Otherwise, if they chose not to move and not doing any job that will provide them source of income, they will never get rid of poverty and will never experience changes in their lives.
The government can only oblige to eradicate poverty but they can not do it alone, they still need the collaboration of international aid agencies and non-governmental organizations (NGOs) to provide assistance that will eradicate poverty. Therefore people also need to create some that will increase job availability.

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April 09, 2023, 09:40:07 AM
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Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
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April 09, 2023, 02:38:37 PM
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Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
Government can't do anything about poverty you yourself have to think about eradicating  it and solve it . In today's tough time where there is immense financial burden on everyone you have to work out your expenses , your earnings and spending.
Government can do 0.1% for your ease rest Is your problem.

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April 09, 2023, 05:11:07 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


The population is increasing and government is unable to provide the jobs to all of them. Food is scare therefore its cost is increasing regularly so I think that government should take such step to make the condition of country better for living.

Government cannot keep eye on everyone and there are some people who just pretend that they are poor just to accumulate the things which government provides to the poor people. One mistake that government make is that they cannot reduces the price of things, i can understand that the country is facing difficulties in order to complete the necessaries of each and every individuals but by increasing cost the poor man only faces trouble, there is no benefit of increasing price for a country.

The poverty is enhances due to the increasing population so government should keep notice on increasing population and then do some proper work to increase the commodities that can subsequently distributed to everyone.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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Of course, all countries have made their best efforts to get their citizens out of poverty, but all of these efforts will certainly not be 100% successful and poverty is still very high. This is what makes us think rationally. Too often blaming the state is a waste of time. keep trying our best so that we and our families are not poor.


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April 10, 2023, 12:40:18 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.


The population is increasing and government is unable to provide the jobs to all of them. Food is scare therefore its cost is increasing regularly so I think that government should take such step to make the condition of country better for living.

Government cannot keep eye on everyone and there are some people who just pretend that they are poor just to accumulate the things which government provides to the poor people. One mistake that government make is that they cannot reduces the price of things, i can understand that the country is facing difficulties in order to complete the necessaries of each and every individuals but by increasing cost the poor man only faces trouble, there is no benefit of increasing price for a country.

The poverty is enhances due to the increasing population so government should keep notice on increasing population and then do some proper work to increase the commodities that can subsequently distributed to everyone.
You are not the only one who notices those problems in their respective countries. Even here, everyone is having a hard time searching for jobs alone, not only poor people can hardly participate on job fairs, even college graduates are having a hard time competing in this survival of the fittest economy. It takes a man to really have that strong mindset to change your life. Escaping poverty is not the government's responsibility, but providing opportunities are.

From poverty to achieving a decent amount of money, it is very hard to reach that point and you have to think as always that "you can never afford to lose".

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April 10, 2023, 02:03:07 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.
Listen up, people love to play the blame game and be all like "ugh, government, why you gotta make everything so damn expensive?" But like, let's not be ignorant, the recent drama between Ukraine and Russia caused the price of gas and crude oil to go up, and that ain't the government's fault entirely. It's way more complicated, and we all gotta do our part.

Our society's gotten all sorts of addicted to non-renewable resources, like oil and gas. That shizz has caused all kinds of drama, from trashing the environment to making the global economy all wack. We gotta understand the bigger picture when it comes to gas prices, it ain't just Ukraine and Russia. There are all sorts of global economic and political forces at play, and if we educate ourselves, we can come up with better solutions than just blaming the government.
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April 10, 2023, 03:08:07 PM
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In my country i observed so many people doing rally and blame the government why the basic needs price rise and the salary is still very low and not enough for daily expenses, is this the effect of the Ukraine and russia war that makes the gas or crude oil so high at price and they pass the gas expenses to the product and it ends to very high price of the basic needs that make us very poor, I see government has a move to resolve the problem but many people are still blaming the government.

Well we ought to know that war is a major contributors to economic recession?.
I guess you do now and I really don't know why the recession last got so high last year but I know that the war between Russia and Ukraine was also a major factors as well.

Also on the long run, I think we also have a very big role to play when it come to poverty elimination because there is a saying that charity begins at home and most times I also don't have to blame the presidency for most poverty cases because there are public reading of the the country's expenditure and there are allocations for each state and constituency, so I believe we just ask our local government and state and federal representatives what's really going on.

I think we individuals aren't ready for the positive growth, hence were responsible for the most poverty cases.

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April 10, 2023, 03:35:22 PM
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I don't think the country will be able to make us rich, poverty can disappear as long as we have the determination to be rich, there are many ways to get rich, starting from work or business, it is proven that many of the world's millionaires were once poor, but because they worked hard and were always optimistic they could become rich people .


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Poverty will never disappear as long as this world has not ended, poverty is an important part of life because many things in this world are the result of the work of poor people, many efforts have been made by countries to reduce poverty, but it will never eliminate 100% so poverty will always exist.
It is natural that poverty will never disappear in this world because it is about everyone eliminating poverty on their own and when there is a comparison of the number of assets owned by one person with another, that is where it will be seen who is poor and who is rich. Because it will always be easier to measure when everyone knows how many assets he has and what other people have, it is clear in this case that poverty is very difficult to eradicate. Although each country also never stops trying to eradicate this so that all its citizens can live more comfortably and more decently because this is also the duty and effort of the state.

Government can't do anything about poverty you yourself have to think about eradicating  it and solve it . In today's tough time where there is immense financial burden on everyone you have to work out your expenses , your earnings and spending.
Government can do 0.1% for your ease rest Is your problem.
The government can only try to do good things to eradicate poverty. Because actually this is everyone's duty to keep themselves from being in poverty by continuing to make as much effort as possible, so everyone doesn't need to fully rely on the government to eradicate this. Even though this is also part of the government's duties, everyone also needs to think about this for himself without having to involve more people because this is the basic task of each individual.
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Depending on us, they will only help a little to create jobs in various ways, one of which is bringing in foreign investors. The government is also only tasked with regulating the circulation of the local currency to prevent inflation. The government will also only regulate security and order for everyone who wants to run a business. So the main actors to end poverty are ourselves and the government is just the people behind the scenes.
True. The government will only provide opportunities and temporary security for us, it’s up to us how we will manage to take them and take advantage of the opportunities so that it will be profitable for us. If we can deal with them positively, probably it could lead us getting a job and secure the source of income, but if we turn them down, then opportunities will be gone forever and we will stay jobless and unproductive, which means poverty will be more prolong.

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The duty of the state is to reduce poverty and make its citizens rich, there are many sources of income that can be obtained by the state to create prosperity, for example, there are very many natural products that if managed properly and without any corruption can make people prosperous.

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I think poverty depends on us, many government programs have been carried out but failed because residents cannot accept the program, as long as we do our best, for example from school to doing business, we can get out of poverty, unfortunately many people blame the government so much that they die poor .


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