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June 19, 2023, 01:01:59 PM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.

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June 19, 2023, 03:56:42 PM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.
For me winning 50x from your capital is a good win for a day. Usually I stop my gambling session if I hit 10x of my initial capital. I don't have capital that you can consider big but making it 10x is where I find a satisfaction and I'll wait for my next gambling session to come. I don't play slots usually that's why I don't experience such big multiplier profits. Even if you have a $1 as a capital and won x1500, for me it's big enough to not gamble for a week and enjoy the money to something. I also don't see myself staying that long in making a x1500 win. Maybe we have different standards on the minimum to take home.
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June 19, 2023, 04:07:13 PM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.
For me winning 50x from your capital is a good win for a day. Usually I stop my gambling session if I hit 10x of my initial capital. I don't have capital that you can consider big but making it 10x is where I find a satisfaction and I'll wait for my next gambling session to come. I don't play slots usually that's why I don't experience such big multiplier profits. Even if you have a $1 as a capital and won x1500, for me it's big enough to not gamble for a week and enjoy the money to something. I also don't see myself staying that long in making a x1500 win. Maybe we have different standards on the minimum to take home.

I do not know how you people are making money on slot games.  If I tell you my experience, I lose a lot on slot games and they are just not my type of game. Maybe I am not that type of lucky to win the slot games. I am more suited to gamble on sports betting and get better results.
However, in sports betting, you may bet 2x or maximum 3x earnings but these slot games can really make you rich as the multipliers like 100x or 1500x are huge and attractive.

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June 19, 2023, 05:36:40 PM
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85 year old Grandma knows where its at, experience beats enthusiasm.  Most people quit but clearly an 85 year old has the gravitas to know just how long it takes to win.   The slots have changed over the years some, its possible your grandma had benefited from seeing all the various aspects to the games.  The cycle theory to wins etc.   I've mentioned before one of the craftiest players I saw was a bar man who would hop on machines after people quit having put in alot of money but won little.  He no doubt considered it a job bonus, literally he is there for 12 hours a day and is forced to watch the full cycle of win/loss and I think this gives the perspective to win; my theory.

haha haven't thought about that before
do you think casino odds are changing over the decades and starting to get harder? or at least different

well, buying a house is definitely harder now than it was for our grandparents due to inflation and the difference in real wages / buying power.
There is no relationship at all with how much a slot machine has already paid off and the chances you have to win, if this was true then no sane gambler will want to become scapegoat and try the slot machines before anyone else, besides each event on the slot machines is independent and the machine does not remember what happened on the past, unlike other games like poker in which once a card is dealt that card cannot be dealt again to other players until the current round ends.

A slot machine will always make a difference in physical casinos, we will always find people and most of them are older adults playing and gambling, there are some who would like to wake up playing, and they do, they do not rest, it is clearly a vice and an addiction there, but This is something that games of chance produce, when we play in online casinos it can cause the same effect, but if we take into consideration that slot machines have no strategy, rather the only strategy is knowing how to distribute the money, it is something that already depends on each player , but in a slot machine, like it or not, everything will always be given to luck.

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June 19, 2023, 05:53:31 PM
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i play slots hoping to win 'big win' or 'jackpot' but many times it don't hits and my balance get drained after betting many times in one slot machine. i play more bets hoping it already took my so much balance it will definitely going to hit this times, but it never happens, and my balance becomes "0".

so i am sharing some tips to avoid this type of losing streak or bad luck in slots.
here it starts:

1. always set a budget for playing slots and stick to it. do not chase losses or try to win back what you have lost by playing more.
2. if a slot machine does not hit in 7-10 spins, consider trying a different machine. this can help you avoid getting stuck on a losing streak and losing more money.
3. if you have been playing a slot machine for 50 spins and have not gotten any free spins or big wins, consider switching to a different machine.
    this can help you avoid wasting money on a machine that is unlikely to pay out.
4. avoid playing slots from Pragmatic and Gamomat as they tend to have low payout percentages and are not as likely to result in big wins.
5. be careful when playing slots from Belatra and Spinomenal as they can be unpredictable and may not always pay out as expected.
6. if you do hit a big win, consider tipping any nearby players who may have been unlucky or busting. This can help spread good karma and keep the atmosphere positive.
7. avoid getting "slot psychosis" where you get stuck on one machine for too long. remember that slots are based on random chance and there is no guaranteed way to win.
    so, take breaks, switch machines and remember to have fun!
8. first check the RTP (reward to player) and RTP should between 96%-100%

Have you ever seen a "professional slot player" who consistently makes a profit across different casino's? Nope, I didn't think so. Slots are a completely rigged game and the best you can hope for is a baiting algorithm after you've just registered at a new casino which tries to hook you in by throwing some larger wins your way on the first deposit. After that you are just throwing away your money with the occasional win in a sea of disappointment. They use lots of psychological tricks to keep you hooked as well, including cashback and even the background noises that are meant to train your brain to indicate "fun" activity.

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June 19, 2023, 06:11:31 PM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier to consider it a good day and a good win.
Slot despite being a luck base game,  so for that it not a one-way thing even though you have some basic slot skills you still rely much on the luck factors to make a winning, but also if you are on a particular game trend like winning it won't be easy to just quit even though the gambler wins a lot of money.

Winning 50x of your staking won't come easy like that unless you hit a jackpot and even if you hit the jackpot the excitement of winning will trigger the gaming intrigue that can lead you to more bets and possibly becoming an addict.
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June 20, 2023, 06:13:42 AM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.
Basically, if we take everything into account, gambling only brings losses, so it's impossible to have wins in excess of what we have lost, so if you really don't want to experience losses, it's better to avoid gambling.
Who can win up to 50x the bet because there will always be defeats.
I can also immediately stop gambling when I get a win of up to 50x the bet, it's just that anyone can guarantee that win.

It's better to play with a happy heart and play a few game sessions for fun.

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June 20, 2023, 07:51:26 AM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.
Basically, if we take everything into account, gambling only brings losses, so it's impossible to have wins in excess of what we have lost, so if you really don't want to experience losses, it's better to avoid gambling.
Who can win up to 50x the bet because there will always be defeats.
I can also immediately stop gambling when I get a win of up to 50x the bet, it's just that anyone can guarantee that win.

It's better to play with a happy heart and play a few game sessions for fun.

How is gambling a source of bringing losses to us when we are also taking the effective use of their services in playing slots on the gambling platforms having fun forgetting that money is being involved on everything you do while gambling, we should be the ones you exercise moderation in whatever thing we are doing while gambling because it has no limit to how far we can go but we can choose or decided to limit everything for moderacy purpose.

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June 20, 2023, 09:28:01 AM
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1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.

I agree with your first point as that can be very dangerous if people continue to go further south and the risk of addiction is exactly there.While for the second point I found it very difficult for me to just quit for 50x my bet but if your bet is big enough then I may agree with it too,personally when I play if I don't hit over x1500 my bet it is very difficult for me to stop,I do not play for x50 my bet as that is not substantial amount for me because I play with lower bets,usually the minimum one and with such bet I need at least x1500 multiplier in order to consider it a good day and a good win.
Basically, if we take everything into account, gambling only brings losses, so it's impossible to have wins in excess of what we have lost, so if you really don't want to experience losses, it's better to avoid gambling.
Who can win up to 50x the bet because there will always be defeats.
I can also immediately stop gambling when I get a win of up to 50x the bet, it's just that anyone can guarantee that win.

It's better to play with a happy heart and play a few game sessions for fun.

How is gambling a source of bringing losses to us when we are also taking the effective use of their services in playing slots on the gambling platforms having fun forgetting that money is being involved on everything you do while gambling, we should be the ones you exercise moderation in whatever thing we are doing while gambling because it has no limit to how far we can go but we can choose or decided to limit everything for moderacy purpose.

That is exactly what most people miss and that for a good reason as I have said before,the reason is that our brain emit dopamine a hormone that makes us feel good and as such we lost count of what we are really doing and how much money are we losing.We have to be extremely vigilant during the phase in which we are playing slot machines to check the balance every now and then before it empties out and we think then how come that we lost all that money during such a short time,in fact it is no short time,it is dopamine that makes it look short.

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June 20, 2023, 11:13:27 AM
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That is exactly what most people miss and that for a good reason as I have said before,the reason is that our brain emit dopamine a hormone that makes us feel good and as such we lost count of what we are really doing and how much money are we losing.We have to be extremely vigilant during the phase in which we are playing slot machines to check the balance every now and then before it empties out and we think then how come that we lost all that money during such a short time,in fact it is no short time,it is dopamine that makes it look short.

Same sentiments. I really think gambling brings cheap dopamine to fuel you into gambling and playing more. There's this kind of thrill and excitement gambling gives off to those people who do it. Especially to those people who already live with it and do it regularly. If they can't gamble, then they will most likely do things just to be able to. Otherwise, they'll seek it continuously because they love the fun and basically, it just become a part of their system wherein they can't easily remove or set aside. It's not something that you can instantly cut off the moment you enjoyed it and the moment you let it consume you. It'll take a long process to be able to quit and to be able to bounce back from healthy gambling habits when you are used to doing it excessively.
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June 20, 2023, 11:52:44 AM
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Winning 50x of your staking won't come easy like that unless you hit a jackpot and even if you hit the jackpot the excitement of winning will trigger the gaming intrigue that can lead you to more bets and possibly becoming an addict.
Yeah, sometime it can be hard to win even just 50x, let say we can win 50x after few spins, from here we can't withdraw our money since we  need 1x TO for minimum. After we are trying to made another spins to complete our 1x TO, we can lose all of our money. This can made gambler to playing more and after we play getting our first jackpot or max-win, we will play for other. Slow but sure, without our control, we will stuck to playing more and getting addicted.

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June 20, 2023, 01:52:57 PM
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That is exactly what most people miss and that for a good reason as I have said before,the reason is that our brain emit dopamine a hormone that makes us feel good and as such we lost count of what we are really doing and how much money are we losing.We have to be extremely vigilant during the phase in which we are playing slot machines to check the balance every now and then before it empties out and we think then how come that we lost all that money during such a short time,in fact it is no short time,it is dopamine that makes it look short.

Same sentiments. I really think gambling brings cheap dopamine to fuel you into gambling and playing more. There's this kind of thrill and excitement gambling gives off to those people who do it. Especially to those people who already live with it and do it regularly. If they can't gamble, then they will most likely do things just to be able to. Otherwise, they'll seek it continuously because they love the fun and basically, it just become a part of their system wherein they can't easily remove or set aside. It's not something that you can instantly cut off the moment you enjoyed it and the moment you let it consume you. It'll take a long process to be able to quit and to be able to bounce back from healthy gambling habits when you are used to doing it excessively.
Losing money in slot games is natural because we can gamble at the minimum limit, press the roll button, or buy features that will give us Free Spins. That's what makes many of us lose a lot of money because we think in another 5-10 spins, we will get lucky and win. But we can also experience defeat in those 10 rounds so that we lose, especially if we use big bets.

And supported by the image display on the slot machine that makes us curious to keep trying until we can get a win. Even if we count how much we have used, the amount will be more losing money than winning money. Only luck can help us to win, so we must be aware that we don't have many chances to win.

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Winning 50x of your staking won't come easy like that unless you hit a jackpot and even if you hit the jackpot the excitement of winning will trigger the gaming intrigue that can lead you to more bets and possibly becoming an addict.
Yeah, sometime it can be hard to win even just 50x, let say we can win 50x after few spins, from here we can't withdraw our money since we  need 1x TO for minimum. After we are trying to made another spins to complete our 1x TO, we can lose all of our money. This can made gambler to playing more and after we play getting our first jackpot or max-win, we will play for other. Slow but sure, without our control, we will stuck to playing more and getting addicted.

If you hit 50x after few spins but you have not wagered 1x from the deposit, you can stop and try it again later if you worry that you will lose it back.
Although it wont change the luck but at least you will not lose it instantly after you hit the 50x.
Basically hitting max win or jackpot will not make you addicted, even if you have never hit jackpot/max win, there is still a chance to be addicted.
Addicted comes from our own mindset, not come from the result of our gambling session.

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Winning 50x of your staking won't come easy like that unless you hit a jackpot and even if you hit the jackpot the excitement of winning will trigger the gaming intrigue that can lead you to more bets and possibly becoming an addict.
Yeah, sometime it can be hard to win even just 50x, let say we can win 50x after few spins, from here we can't withdraw our money since we  need 1x TO for minimum. After we are trying to made another spins to complete our 1x TO, we can lose all of our money. This can made gambler to playing more and after we play getting our first jackpot or max-win, we will play for other. Slow but sure, without our control, we will stuck to playing more and getting addicted.
Gambling regularly can expose us to some certain things having some crazy experience. When I bet I don't like to include greed because it does make me to lose more money than I expected. Gambling is supposed to be what we can afford to lose and if we add greed then we can lose money. Even though we don't bet with big amount of money, it is very important for us to keep winning that is why we need to make sure that we reduce the risk of losing the bet.

I would prefer to gamble for a winning of 5× than to go for 50× to 100× that can be very hard to accomplish. Winning is what we want to be seeing not taking big risk and not having winnings.

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June 20, 2023, 04:31:29 PM
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Take any result calmly, dont be greedy when you are on winning time (stop at the right time) and dont be over thinking when you are on losing.

To me the right time to stop is either of these two cases:

1. I see that I've lost more money than I could easily afford to lose. Just a bit more, and I stop.

2. If I win a good amount, more than 50x of my bet, I stop for the day, right away.
That's the right strategy, stop when you are either constantly losing or have won something significant. I suppose by 'bet' you mean your betting bankroll, right? 50x is a lot for me, I would even stop if I hit 10x or 15x of the bankroll I'm using for gambling at that specific time and come back with the same amount that I was using initially to try my luck again and have some fun.

I'm a kind of a gambler who wouldn't gamble away everything after winning something, and I don't add my winnings to my next bankroll only to make it bigger. For example, if I usually gamble with $50, and if I one about $200 on top of that, I wouldn't have $250 as my initial bankroll in the next session, I will keep $200 and have $50 and if that is lost, I stop right there.

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June 20, 2023, 09:33:41 PM
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Thanks for sharing your experiences and tips on playing slots. It can be frustrating when luck doesn't seem to be on our side, but remember, it's all part of the unpredictable nature of slot machines.
Slots machines are the craziest of them all, there is nothing left to rely on but your luck, I kinda enjoy games like this, because I don't use money I can't afford to lose, and if you are lucky you will be surprised how rewarding your luck could get.

You can make rolls with less than 20$ on many slots games online and I don't understand how many people use a lot of money playing slots, and they ruined their day, I kinda look at slots like it's way easier to control, because you can set your number of rolls per day and the amount you plan to use per day.

Since all casino games are wired to be manipulative and unpredictable, there is no point looking for a strategy, just play in a way that you won't get hurt in the end because there is a big chance you won't make money. 

depends on the game, there are some strategy games like poker
one can also use strategy for bankroll management and emotional awareness when gambling
but you're right, sometimes it's better to simply chill and enjoy it.

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Good words! That's how one should play slots, I can confirm from my own experience. And you, @Bitinity, must be an experienced slot player to come up with this elegant wording.

I cant say that I'm well experienced slot player but I play slot for years now so I have experienced many things and I learn many things as well. The one I said previously is also based on my own experience. I wont lie that I was frustrated many times years ago when I got bad result in slot continuously. This experience give me a lesson on how to deal with my own gambling habit.

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June 22, 2023, 09:35:50 AM
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That is exactly what most people miss and that for a good reason as I have said before,the reason is that our brain emit dopamine a hormone that makes us feel good and as such we lost count of what we are really doing and how much money are we losing.We have to be extremely vigilant during the phase in which we are playing slot machines to check the balance every now and then before it empties out and we think then how come that we lost all that money during such a short time,in fact it is no short time,it is dopamine that makes it look short.

Same sentiments. I really think gambling brings cheap dopamine to fuel you into gambling and playing more. There's this kind of thrill and excitement gambling gives off to those people who do it. Especially to those people who already live with it and do it regularly. If they can't gamble, then they will most likely do things just to be able to. Otherwise, they'll seek it continuously because they love the fun and basically, it just become a part of their system wherein they can't easily remove or set aside. It's not something that you can instantly cut off the moment you enjoyed it and the moment you let it consume you. It'll take a long process to be able to quit and to be able to bounce back from healthy gambling habits when you are used to doing it excessively.
Losing money in slot games is natural because we can gamble at the minimum limit, press the roll button, or buy features that will give us Free Spins. That's what makes many of us lose a lot of money because we think in another 5-10 spins, we will get lucky and win. But we can also experience defeat in those 10 rounds so that we lose, especially if we use big bets.

And supported by the image display on the slot machine that makes us curious to keep trying until we can get a win. Even if we count how much we have used, the amount will be more losing money than winning money. Only luck can help us to win, so we must be aware that we don't have many chances to win.
The reference to "cheap dopamine" effectively encapsulates the process through which gambling stimulates the reward system of the brain, giving rise to a sense of euphoria that the person may subsequently seek to replicate

However, the depiction of gambling as a habit that once developed cannot be easily discarded may inadvertently foster a sense of fatalism. Addiction, while indeed a severe and pervasive condition, is treatable. Interventions such as cognitive-behavioral therapy, for instance, have been shown to be effective in alleviating gambling addiction.

As for the remarks about slot games, the illusion of control – in this case, the belief that a win is imminent after successive losses – is a well-established cognitive distortion among gamblers. While one may indeed win occasionally, in the long run, the house always has the edge. Thus, the assertion that "only luck can help us to win" paints an overly simplistic picture and neglects the inherent bias against the player in gambling games

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June 22, 2023, 10:29:12 AM
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depends on the game, there are some strategy games like poker
one can also use strategy for bankroll management and emotional awareness when gambling
but you're right, sometimes it's better to simply chill and enjoy it.

For non-slot games, we can set a strategy to play. However, playing slots with varied jackpots and luck which has a bigger impact than non-slot games makes gamblers not have any strategy. Regardless of the strategy, because winning is determined by the symbols that appear on the reels, it will be difficult to carry out the strategy. What can be done is limited to refraining from gambling continuously. this is the one an only strategy when we are playing any slots games. No matter its a real slots gambling or mobile-app based game (hidden gamble in the game).

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