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June 26, 2023, 09:11:28 AM
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I have not tried slots as it is more of a luck game than a skill one. I would never try it in the future too as I am not able to control the outcome of this game.

Some will prefer slot because they liked it that way to take the lick its made of, you can't show your skill i playing slot to make you win but rather your luck get you on the winning chance, we have individual preference when it comes to gambling because you will discover how some prefer one over the other.

Thinking about not being able to control the outcome makes me more nervous. Rather than losing a good amount of money with slots I would prefer a lottery if it is all about chance.

Those that gamble on slot don't really place a huge amount of money on it because they know and understand the risk involved, but that of giving lottery an attempt is another thing that requires it's own luck as well even though money is not that involved unlike in gambling

A lot of users of online casinos have now shifted to sports betting as it is easy to understand than poker. In the future, there might be a lot of casinos focusing on skill gambling.

I also think that many of the gamblers will prefer sport betting than many other types because it requires personal skills and experience to enjoy playing it unlike slots or plinko games in betting.

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June 26, 2023, 09:50:19 AM
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4. avoid playing slots from Pragmatic and Gamomat as they tend to have low payout percentages and are not as likely to result in big wins.
What would you recommend? I have been playing games from pragmatic play with 98% RTP and won my biggest wins on them. I wouldn't chase those insanely big multipliers anyway as they are once in a lifetime changes.
IMO in this case I don't think it's about the existing RTP problem because indeed sometimes what we can't win someone else can do it.
We of course realize this just comes back to a matter of luck regardless of advice or not doing it at an RTP I don't think it will be very useful for everyone.
We have our own perspective for that and confidence for ourselves to play wherever we like and not to play with an RTP that we don't like but that won't affect other people because everyone has their own luck.

It would be better if we really returned to the context of fun at any RTP we play, of course it's good if we feel comfortable and happy to be there.

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June 26, 2023, 03:53:10 PM
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4. avoid playing slots from Pragmatic and Gamomat as they tend to have low payout percentages and are not as likely to result in big wins.
What would you recommend? I have been playing games from pragmatic play with 98% RTP and won my biggest wins on them. I wouldn't chase those insanely big multipliers anyway as they are once in a lifetime changes.
IMO in this case I don't think it's about the existing RTP problem because indeed sometimes what we can't win someone else can do it.
We of course realize this just comes back to a matter of luck regardless of advice or not doing it at an RTP I don't think it will be very useful for everyone.
We have our own perspective for that and confidence for ourselves to play wherever we like and not to play with an RTP that we don't like but that won't affect other people because everyone has their own luck.

It would be better if we really returned to the context of fun at any RTP we play, of course it's good if we feel comfortable and happy to be there.
Your take on luck's part in shaping gambling results is captivating. It demonstrates a profound respect for fate's whims, integral to gambling
Still, this perspective could bypass a pragmatic truth: the large numbers principle. The RTP suggests long-term winning probabilities. Short-term results might flirt with fortune, but over time, they gravitate towards the RTP.

Bear in mind that the house always holds the upper hand, ensured by RTPs. While gambling should remain enjoyable, the stark realities mustn't be forgotten. Fortune may smile on the brave, but not on the uninformed

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June 27, 2023, 04:27:31 PM
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You must be kidding to choose lottery than slots if the main idea is about chance.
Both are pure luck based game but the chance to win is better in slot than in lottery, I have no idea why do you prefer lottery than slots tbh.

I meant with a lottery you won't indulge in constant purchase. You get either one or a few opportunities to participate. With a slot you can continue unless you are out of you investment. Lottery does not give you that opportunity. You can only invest in it to a certain amount and that doesn't hurt my finances. For example, I won't be allowed to buy multiple tickets in a lottery unles they have other criteria. I still would not be able to buy all the numbers at once if they allow. That is what I meant.


It depends on yourself, you can buy bunch of lottery tickets till you out of money, lottery gives this opportunity unless you are talking about lottery which platform that give you limit on how many tickets you can buy in single draw but I doubt there is lottery platform that has such limit.
Since you say that you are not allowed to buy multiple tickets, I'm curious what kind of lottery you are referring to because most of lotteries that I know is allowing people to buy multiple tickets.

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June 27, 2023, 09:35:53 PM
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    -  I agree with what you said that we should only have a budget for slot games so that we can limit ourselves gambling in any casinos online, and in this matter we can also apply control to ourselves. playing slot games.

So these are good reminders that you made it OP for all the players who gamble in this crypto gambling. And this is really what all players should be doing although there are some who don't really do it in reality.

I'd say that a limited budget or a time constraint (I'll play for 20 minutes and then stop) is probably the best way to go

have you heard that resisting urges strenghten the moral character?
many philosophers in history talked about it
I think that some of us have certainly crossed the line including the capital that was spent excessively while playing for a long time in front of the computer and that is what cannot get used to because no one controls it, now everything has become experience so there we have to be able discipline with the bankroll that is owned and of course the desired game time so this will not lead to big losses.

Sometimes the moral character is still very difficult to receive good support, but if that behavior is not changed then we will always be in the wrong in the sense that spending profits on gambling will remain out of control.

yes, this is a good point
it's also much harder to control yourself with digital money than "real" one
if you have to hand someone else hundreds of physical bills you'd probably spend less than nowadays where spending is just one click away

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June 27, 2023, 10:21:07 PM
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4. avoid playing slots from Pragmatic and Gamomat as they tend to have low payout percentages and are not as likely to result in big wins.
What would you recommend? I have been playing games from pragmatic play with 98% RTP and won my biggest wins on them. I wouldn't chase those insanely big multipliers anyway as they are once in a lifetime changes.
IMO in this case I don't think it's about the existing RTP problem because indeed sometimes what we can't win someone else can do it.
We of course realize this just comes back to a matter of luck regardless of advice or not doing it at an RTP I don't think it will be very useful for everyone.
We have our own perspective for that and confidence for ourselves to play wherever we like and not to play with an RTP that we don't like but that won't affect other people because everyone has their own luck.
It would be better if we really returned to the context of fun at any RTP we play, of course it's good if we feel comfortable and happy to be there.
I was hoping that someone would name actual alternative games or game providers better than pragmatic play. But i am not sure if i should stare at RTP or not. I just tried something with highest RTP long time and just kept losing. Maybe it was my bad luck or maybe i am missing some obvious point about RTP, like the fact that i should just play longer in order to probability kick in. Least if i understood correctly my changes at least would be higher with high RTP.

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Slots are rough but I've noticed that Stake has prizes for users who hit certain milestones on their games.  That's pretty cool.  Between that and rakebacks, bonuses, I can see how people get addicted to playing slots.  Especially with all the cool graphics and sounds...  Personally, I prefer sports betting, but slots are more of an instant gratification thing.  When you get a big win on a tiny amount, it starts to make sense why those old folks spend so long at the penny machines in casinos.  It does seem like slots could use some innovation and be a little more interactive and arcade like than watching an animation.

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June 28, 2023, 01:37:50 PM
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IMO in this case I don't think it's about the existing RTP problem because indeed sometimes what we can't win someone else can do it.
We of course realize this just comes back to a matter of luck regardless of advice or not doing it at an RTP I don't think it will be very useful for everyone.
We have our own perspective for that and confidence for ourselves to play wherever we like and not to play with an RTP that we don't like but that won't affect other people because everyone has their own luck.
It would be better if we really returned to the context of fun at any RTP we play, of course it's good if we feel comfortable and happy to be there.
I was hoping that someone would name actual alternative games or game providers better than pragmatic play. But i am not sure if i should stare at RTP or not. I just tried something with highest RTP long time and just kept losing. Maybe it was my bad luck or maybe i am missing some obvious point about RTP, like the fact that i should just play longer in order to probability kick in. Least if i understood correctly my changes at least would be higher with high RTP.
Like i said before because in the end it comes down to game and luck.
Even if the RTP is good but when we are unlucky there it will still make us lose but on the other hand even if the RTP we are playing is bad in terms of rate but when we have to be lucky there still nothing can stop that luck.
I actually for slot gambling don't really pay attention to when the RTP is good or not but my comfort in visuals and several other conditions such as when I like the game then I will be there because even a high RTP will not guarantee we will always be lucky because this is gambling and we cannot expect to win every game.

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June 28, 2023, 01:58:48 PM
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Slots are rough but I've noticed that Stake has prizes for users who hit certain milestones on their games.  That's pretty cool.  Between that and rakebacks, bonuses, I can see how people get addicted to playing slots.  Especially with all the cool graphics and sounds...  Personally, I prefer sports betting, but slots are more of an instant gratification thing.  When you get a big win on a tiny amount, it starts to make sense why those old folks spend so long at the penny machines in casinos.  It does seem like slots could use some innovation and be a little more interactive and arcade like than watching an animation.

interesting
having prizes for certain progress reached (like 1000 slots games played let's say) can be a good incentive for users to keep playing
but as you mentioned, it's tricky, this can help trigger addiction

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interesting
having prizes for certain progress reached (like 1000 slots games played let's say) can be a good incentive for users to keep playing
but as you mentioned, it's tricky, this can help trigger addiction
You always need to remember that chasing victory will only make you suffer losses and of course you need a large capital if you have to play 1000 slots in a certain period of time.
Even though the prize is attractive, you also have to take everything into account, is it worth it and is it worth the risk that you can accept at any time.
But actually it's not difficult if you have more money and are able to accept all the risks.

I once entered a slot game contest to get a prize but in reality I lost more than my set amount and in the end got nothing because I lost to those who could play longer to have the biggest multiplier.

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June 28, 2023, 06:19:10 PM
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Slots are rough but I've noticed that Stake has prizes for users who hit certain milestones on their games.  That's pretty cool.  Between that and rakebacks, bonuses, I can see how people get addicted to playing slots.  Especially with all the cool graphics and sounds...  Personally, I prefer sports betting, but slots are more of an instant gratification thing.  When you get a big win on a tiny amount, it starts to make sense why those old folks spend so long at the penny machines in casinos.  It does seem like slots could use some innovation and be a little more interactive and arcade like than watching an animation.
It's no wonder you prefer sports betting with a bigger chance of winning by predicting and analyzing consistently which brings you closer to victory compared to slots. It's really very interesting and fun when you hear beautiful sounds and graphics and get wins quickly if you're lucky. because slots will not always depend on luck.
compared to the type of sports betting, slot games are addictive faster because they will quickly use up the balance (depending on the amount of the bet) and with instant or faster wins that make a person more addicted because sometimes big wins from slots can trigger a person to find it difficult to leave slot games.

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IMO in this case I don't think it's about the existing RTP problem because indeed sometimes what we can't win someone else can do it.
We of course realize this just comes back to a matter of luck regardless of advice or not doing it at an RTP I don't think it will be very useful for everyone.
We have our own perspective for that and confidence for ourselves to play wherever we like and not to play with an RTP that we don't like but that won't affect other people because everyone has their own luck.

It would be better if we really returned to the context of fun at any RTP we play, of course it's good if we feel comfortable and happy to be there.

Regardless of the individual, the result will always be the same, it is governed by that randomness and it is what gives the sensation that some are luckier than others, but in reality It is about spins, more spins and you will see different phases, 0x, 1x, 3x, 500x, etc.

Indeed the fun you mention is measured in spins and not in luck based on the RTP.   Smiley

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June 28, 2023, 07:30:39 PM
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Most slot machines have a jackpot that gamblers who prefer to gamble based on luck are chasing. As we all know from real-life stories, the jackpot has nothing to do with the number of spins or hours of play at the slot machine. There have been cases where the jackpot has been hit on 2 or 3 spins, so the likelihood of the jackpot being hit is entirely dependent on luck. Small winnings are designed to keep the player in the casino, so they are managed by an algorithm that works on the principle of RTP.

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June 29, 2023, 05:32:22 AM
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It's no wonder you prefer sports betting with a bigger chance of winning by predicting and analyzing consistently which brings you closer to victory compared to slots. It's really very interesting and fun when you hear beautiful sounds and graphics and get wins quickly if you're lucky. because slots will not always depend on luck.
compared to the type of sports betting, slot games are addictive faster because they will quickly use up the balance (depending on the amount of the bet) and with instant or faster wins that make a person more addicted because sometimes big wins from slots can trigger a person to find it difficult to leave slot games.

With slots your outcome is already decided the moment you start the slot. The few seconds that pass are just some entertainment for you, and casinos actually study the perfect balance between spinning the slot longer or shorter to get the best bang for their buck.

The shorter spin, the quicker they get your money, but you might feel bad. The longer it spins, the happier the gambler feels, but it takes longer for the casino to take your money.

It's all just a fantasy, it's best to treat it as a game, and consider paying it for entertainment.

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June 29, 2023, 08:03:32 AM
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The shorter spin, the quicker they get your money, but you might feel bad. The longer it spins, the happier the gambler feels, but it takes longer for the casino to take your money.



That is 100% correct.Nowadays though most casinos do not take your money quickly because you will feel bad,sad and bored and you will not come back playing there.At least this is the behavior of us most of the time when this happens,many cases that have come out of addiction it has been because of money dried up super quick and they felt really bad and stopped completely,rarely happens but it happens.

When the casino let's you play longer means that they are leaving you to deceive yourself that soon you will hit that big win or max payout while you are under the effect of dopamine which our brain emits during gambling and even if you lose all your balance during a long time you say to yourself,"ah it kept me playing this long,most likely next session I will hit it big" and so we come back to the casino.It is much better for the casino to keep the gambler playing as long as possible before taking his money because if they get it super quick they have a huge risk of losing a returning customer.

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June 29, 2023, 09:11:48 AM
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Most slot machines have a jackpot that gamblers who prefer to gamble based on luck are chasing. As we all know from real-life stories, the jackpot has nothing to do with the number of spins or hours of play at the slot machine. There have been cases where the jackpot has been hit on 2 or 3 spins, so the likelihood of the jackpot being hit is entirely dependent on luck. Small winnings are designed to keep the player in the casino, so they are managed by an algorithm that works on the principle of RTP.
Those who chase the jackpot will lose a lot of money if they do not have self-control and rely only on luck. But that's how slot games are, where gamblers have to have luck while we don't know when that luck will come. If we can get the jackpot, it's because our luck comes at the right time and can provide bigger winning opportunities so we can win a lot of money. Meanwhile, small wins only make gamblers keep playing gambling so they keep chasing the jackpot. And this is where self-control prevents us from continuing to play because we will realize that chasing the jackpot will require more money.

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June 29, 2023, 09:17:56 AM
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Most slot machines have a jackpot that gamblers who prefer to gamble based on luck are chasing. As we all know from real-life stories, the jackpot has nothing to do with the number of spins or hours of play at the slot machine. There have been cases where the jackpot has been hit on 2 or 3 spins, so the likelihood of the jackpot being hit is entirely dependent on luck. Small winnings are designed to keep the player in the casino, so they are managed by an algorithm that works on the principle of RTP.

I've seen gamblers who don't even rely on slot games alone but have a combination of other games to complement their gambling experience not to be limited to slot, if we are to consider the mature of slot games while gambling, we can deduce that it's a one way direction that strictly goes by luck, some may landed on this same luck and hit a jackpot unplanned for, there's nothing like the RTP is being manipulated or not it's something that is well programmed to run a randomized selection under precision.

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June 29, 2023, 05:45:33 PM
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Slots are rough but I've noticed that Stake has prizes for users who hit certain milestones on their games.  That's pretty cool.  Between that and rakebacks, bonuses, I can see how people get addicted to playing slots.  Especially with all the cool graphics and sounds...  Personally, I prefer sports betting, but slots are more of an instant gratification thing.  When you get a big win on a tiny amount, it starts to make sense why those old folks spend so long at the penny machines in casinos.  It does seem like slots could use some innovation and be a little more interactive and arcade like than watching an animation.
Indeed they are but that is you are unlucky which can happen most of the times but in the event your luck came in, slots are also one of the most rewarding game out there. Stake is a big casino and has different promotions so what you are saying there is right but apart of it, there are also certain promotions which came solely from the gaming providers. One example is the 'Drops and Win' by Pragmatic Play.

Rakeback is on the side of the casino but this isn't the reason for one to get addicted on slots. Rakeback only gives you a tiny amount of money compared to other forms of bonuses but it's better than nothing. Maybe if we will stack our rakebacks for a while, and claim it after some time, maybe we can be able to accumulate a much better amount.

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June 29, 2023, 09:10:40 PM
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Most slot machines have a jackpot that gamblers who prefer to gamble based on luck are chasing. As we all know from real-life stories, the jackpot has nothing to do with the number of spins or hours of play at the slot machine. There have been cases where the jackpot has been hit on 2 or 3 spins, so the likelihood of the jackpot being hit is entirely dependent on luck. Small winnings are designed to keep the player in the casino, so they are managed by an algorithm that works on the principle of RTP.

Based on my experience, winning the jackpot usually doesn't take long. usually, in one spin or up to 100 spins. when luck is on our side, it won't be long before we win the betting session of slot games. even though the actual wins we get vary, but when we are lucky, in a short time we achieve something we hope for, namely winning the jackpot. and I personally, quite often experience it.

On the contrary, playing with a long duration even takes hours. In most cases, the end result is that we lose the game session, although we don't rule out the possibility, we can also win if luck finally comes. for the second point, what you say is quite reasonable. that small wins are designed to keep players at home in the casino, and this system runs according to an algorithm that works on the RTP principle.
the point is, every gambler who likes slot games can be sure that they always hope to get the sensation of winning the Jackpot. but sometimes, we forget that sometimes there is a portion to play for fun and where it's time to stop the game session if the game doesn't go well.

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June 29, 2023, 09:41:44 PM
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I always failed when I tried, which is why I prefer dice over slots. I followed this guy called "That's Profit" on TikTok, and most of his uploads are a loss. Even when Eddie is playing on Saturday. The majority of his plays are likewise negative. The only good thing about slots is that it is entertaining to watch while others play. I tried Pragmatic slots a few months ago since I saw someone mention their slots are good, and the outcomes were the same, negative.
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