do you lose on slots?

[zuzie]

Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

I agree with you, that most slots are self-defeating if we can't manage the money we use to play slots and I see around me that most people who play slots lose and the money they risk is not small.
In my opinion, people who play slots at first are just curious, but over time they become addicted to the game, and don't realize that in fact they will only lose, but it is unlikely that anyone will win compared to the results they get. 90% lose and 10% win.
And the impact of slots is that they are ready to accept defeat and lose the money we have and this will have an impact on ourselves and our own families.

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[swogerino]

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Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.

If we only knew before hand how this algorithm,or better the algorithm of each slot works as one thing is sure,they all operate differently,some slot machines like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonaza and fruits related operate much differently from Big Bass slot series,their game play mechanics is quite different.Sure most slot machines look a lot alike as in the end they only do one thing,in the long run they drain our money in the fastest possible way.Even other providers like Play n Go and Relax Gaming do the same,they keep you rollin a bit and then boom money is gone,so in the end as I said before slots are programmed to drain our money.

[Lucasgabd]

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Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.

If we only knew before hand how this algorithm,or better the algorithm of each slot works as one thing is sure,they all operate differently,some slot machines like Fruit Party,Sweet Bonaza and fruits related operate much differently from Big Bass slot series,their game play mechanics is quite different.Sure most slot machines look a lot alike as in the end they only do one thing,in the long run they drain our money in the fastest possible way.Even other providers like Play n Go and Relax Gaming do the same,they keep you rollin a bit and then boom money is gone,so in the end as I said before slots are programmed to drain our money.

would be awesome to talk with some of the programmers and engineers that work on these algos and on building these machines

or even getting a machine and reverse hacking it to figure it out
so many things to discover

do you things physical slots can be gamed?

[len01]

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I agree with you. The probability of winning in slots is roughly equal to the probability of winning in dice. This can be confirmed by the fact that these gambling games have approximately the same RTP. Naturally, the RTP for each individual gambler will be different so someone is more lucky in slots and someone dais. Personally, I have more luck in slots, so I prefer them over dice. But of course all of this is very subjective.

yep, thats true. in terms of RTP every gambler will have different returns, even though RTP has almost the same opportunities in every game, what I know is that sometimes RTP does not work according to these rules. I mean for example a dice game or slot game has an RTP of 96% but when it is played it does not match that 96% because everyone returns to the initial discussion about luck in gambling which will be the end of all that.

Its natural that you prefer slot games because slot games have an attractive appearance and sounds that seem to provide comfort or interest in betting there, even though dice games are also interesting but seem boring.

[BITCOIN4X]

Of course, I have a higher percentage of losses on slots than on other games such as sports betting. Game slot is interesting, but one thing that I have the most difficulty avoiding in slot games is the feeling of wanting to win jackpots and scatters to get big bonuses. This has caused me to lose a lot of money without even realizing it, but it's a consequence I've considered even though I'm never happy about the loss.

I'm not sure whether my slot playing pattern is wrong or whether slots are really the games that drain gamblers' money the most, but slots are the most fun game for me besides sports betting.

[nullama]

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would be awesome to talk with some of the programmers and engineers that work on these algos and on building these machines

or even getting a machine and reverse hacking it to figure it out
so many things to discover

do you things physical slots can be gamed?

Every system has vulnerabilities, so in theory even physical slot machines can be hacked.

Also some people have managed to create fake token to feed the machines, etc. People are always going to try to cheat, in every possible way.

[LUCKMCFLY]

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Why do you think your perception is wrong. Each of us playing the same game will get a completely different perception and it is quite normal as the algorithm works with some degree of randomness.

In general, I always thought that in the algorithm of many slots programmed that get into the bonus round can only after a certain number of spins, but in some slots I still managed to knock out the bonus after a few spins.

I think all these slot machines have basically the same algorithm in the end, they just change the icons and the sounds, lights, etc.

They need to pass certification to operate, so I don't think they have too many different ones.

You know, I've also had that doubt, I really don't know if what I'm going to say is infallible, but sometimes I feel that when you play slots in a place, whatever it is, at first everything tends to look so spectacular. , free spins are won, there are good multipliers, and one as a player is careful to bet a little so that the entire balance does not go away and thus be able to enjoy a little more, so sometimes I have that perception that in the first shots that you do it in the slot machine because you have a better chance of winning, I don't know if it happened to you, but I have sent that, I don't know if they are silly ideas, but of course, after a while has passed, well, that kind of luck doesn't come out so well Second, in fact the slots may make you still win but little.

Slots are great attractions that are now very popular among players, as I have said before, it seems that now players prefer slots more than the poker game itself, 21, among others that are very classic and that above they are all in casinos and they are very good games.

Now about losing losing, yes , it could be that slots are that, some very Specialized games to be able to have options of winning little and losing a lot, this makes any player see how feasible it is, with respect to slots and roulette, I think that roulette has more chances of winning than slots, only that in slots if you win by making a good bet, well you win a lot of money, then that is not so bad, especially for the little players who may be playing in slots and Suddenly, well , they make a good profit, which is not bad either, I personally am fascinated by slots, I would love to have a lot of money to play slots for at least one full day, because it seems very exciting to me, the adrenaline it increases a lot and the emopcones are very large, of course it is my criteria, I don't know if there is another way of seeing things, but I think that this way is better.

[Lucasgabd]

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would be awesome to talk with some of the programmers and engineers that work on these algos and on building these machines

or even getting a machine and reverse hacking it to figure it out
so many things to discover

do you things physical slots can be gamed?

Every system has vulnerabilities, so in theory even physical slot machines can be hacked.

Also some people have managed to create fake token to feed the machines, etc. People are always going to try to cheat, in every possible way.

interesting, yes, fake tokens is a way, you could create lots of it and attack it in a way you play until you win
that would be a cool experiment, to check how many rolls you need to have a win

probably there are other ways like plugging an usb like stuff with some code and kaboom

[famososMuertos]

Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

I agree with you, that most slots are self-defeating if we can't manage the money we use to play slots and I see around me that most people who play slots lose and the money they risk is not small.
In my opinion, people who play slots at first are just curious, but over time they become addicted to the game, and don't realize that in fact they will only lose, but it is unlikely that anyone will win compared to the results they get. 90% lose and 10% win.
And the impact of slots is that they are ready to accept defeat and lose the money we have and this will have an impact on ourselves and our own families.

The RPG determines how much you are going to lose, so finding slot machines that have that percentage as much as possible hight reduces losses, they tell you, it's there, and that's the game, you know you're losing and you're looking to beat the house.

You go to the  movie theater, buy popcorn, then the cost of the entrance ticket plus the cost of the popcorn... and if you want to go deeper into the cost of gasoline, that will determine how much you spent to go to the movies, today in my country, going to the  movie theater  without adding gasoline costs about $25-$30 and on average the time is 90 minutes, that's it, I ask you, what is the profit?

Then, if I go to the movies every day of each month, it is surely an expense to consider, but the fact that I go every day does not mean that I am addicted, no, if I manage to consolidate that entertainment time in a suitable time, once per week etc With slots there is no difference, when you lose money and when you hit 10,000x it's like when that person you went to the movies with turned out to be the love of your life, not much happens but it happens, now I don't know if that love has a value of 10,000x.  

[nullama]

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interesting, yes, fake tokens is a way, you could create lots of it and attack it in a way you play until you win
that would be a cool experiment, to check how many rolls you need to have a win

probably there are other ways like plugging an usb like stuff with some code and kaboom

Yeah, if I remember correctly there was a long time ago a coin forger that was so good that there was no way to tell the difference between the real coins and the forgeries, and the coins basically continued in circulation.

I think they found out about him eventually because he continued to replicate his experiment multiple times, and something happened. I think if he just stopped at some point no one would have catched him.

[Betwrong]

Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

Sorry, I don't think it's true. Where did you get those numbers from? Slots indeed have a big house edge, but not as big as you put it. I think the average house edge for online slots is about 5%. You can lose all your balance on  slots, it's possible, but it's not guaranteed that you'll lose "minimum 10%". In fact, you can win. No one would play slots if it were like you said.

[dimonstration]

Losing on slots is common and this is much experienced by the addictive ones. Slots were mostly of the higher house edge game and this is really the easiest money melting game. When we spend on slots we should be careful enough to spend with the low amount possible. Slots will result in atleast 80% losing and it is assured that minimum 10% of the amount wagered gets lost.

Sorry, I don't think it's true. Where did you get those numbers from? Slots indeed have a big house edge, but not as big as you put it. I think the average house edge for online slots is about 5%. You can lose all your balance on  slots, it's possible, but it's not guaranteed that you'll lose "minimum 10%". In fact, you can win. No one would play slots if it were like you said.

I agree that his number is kinda a bit exaggerated and the word guaranteed is not true since this is a game of pure luck which means the house edge is just the guarantee lose here while the slot volatility might intensify the losses in the long run.

I believe you can lose more than 10% even with huge number of spin since some slot games have a very tough volatility that will surely drain the bankroll even with just 5% house edge. It’s important to consider volatility and hit ratio since this is the real killer. It’s a high risk high reward.

[swogerino]

I believe you can lose more than 10% even with huge number of spin since some slot games have a very tough volatility that will surely drain the bankroll even with just 5% house edge. It’s important to consider volatility and hit ratio since this is the real killer. It’s a high risk high reward.

That is definitely true in most slots from the world most famous providers,high risk high reward and the slots tell you in their info page the level of volatility,if it is 5 star or 5 lightnings meaning the highest level it means that it is the most extreme level of volatility and in these kind of slots from what I have seen from other people,not personal experience,you either hit the max win in the first 100-200 spins on your session or if you continue most likely you end up losing everything.

There is a way to continue playing longer and that is using all your balance set aside for slots play to use that to buy the bonus with the lowest bet or second lowest bet and as such you will have a really slow long session which can result in you losing less money,again this is my personal theory,nothing proved here.

[Hirose UK]

Of course, I have a higher percentage of losses on slots than on other games such as sports betting. Game slot is interesting, but one thing that I have the most difficulty avoiding in slot games is the feeling of wanting to win jackpots and scatters to get big bonuses. This has caused me to lose a lot of money without even realizing it, but it's a consequence I've considered even though I'm never happy about the loss.

I'm not sure whether my slot playing pattern is wrong or whether slots are really the games that drain gamblers' money the most, but slots are the most fun game for me besides sports betting.

All types of casino games have a faster and greater risk of losing money compared to sports betting because in casino games including slots you feel pleasure in every spin and the money at stake is calculated from each spin which is faster losing money in contrast to sports where money is risked sporting events that last up to tens of minutes to determine victory.
However in gambling there are a lot of risks and loss of money so the best way to save money while at the casino is to manage all the finances used for gambling yourself.

Regardless of the excitement you get you still have to consider every loss and do your best to ensure that your balance doesn't run out in just one game session so that you can still have a lucky chance of winning in other games or bets.

[nullama]

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Sorry, I don't think it's true. Where did you get those numbers from? Slots indeed have a big house edge, but not as big as you put it. I think the average house edge for online slots is about 5%. You can lose all your balance on  slots, it's possible, but it's not guaranteed that you'll lose "minimum 10%". In fact, you can win. No one would play slots if it were like you said.

I believe each slot machine has a different standard, so it's hard to generalize.

I mean, type of machine really, let's say game type A has a different standard of game type B, specially true when going overseas as they have different regulations.

Online might be more homogeneous, but I'm not sure.

[cloudfir3e]

I'm not sure whether my slot playing pattern is wrong or whether slots are really the games that drain gamblers' money the most, but slots are the most fun game for me besides sports betting.

It's true that playing slots is fun and exciting, especially when you get scatters, but if you haven't won the jackpot, you will definitely play continuously so that without realizing it, you have spent a lot of money on slots. Therefore, in order to minimize losses, namely by determining the amount that will be spent, playing slots has a greater risk of losing than sports betting and despite the excitement, you still have to consider every loss and be able to control your finances so you don't experience many losses.

[swogerino]

Online might be more homogeneous, but I'm not sure.

That is a sure thing that online is more homogeneous and I say this from personal experience.I have played slots from a long time now online and I can say with 100% precision accuracy that almost all the different slot providers offer almost the same game play mechanics,not in themes,music or bonus games but in the sense that with every such provider as soon as you raise your bet you start losing money in the fastest way possible,something which with all of them does not happen when you play with the minimum bet.So yeah they are a lot homogeneous in the online arena.

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I agree with you, that most slots are self-defeating if we can't manage the money we use to play slots and I see around me that most people who play slots lose and the money they risk is not small.
In my opinion, people who play slots at first are just curious, but over time they become addicted to the game, and don't realize that in fact they will only lose, but it is unlikely that anyone will win compared to the results they get. 90% lose and 10% win.
And the impact of slots is that they are ready to accept defeat and lose the money we have and this will have an impact on ourselves and our own families.

It's true that people who play slots are usually initially curious about this game, maybe they see their friends playing and earning money from it. But indeed this slot is a game that has been designed with a low probability of winning, so when playing this it is the players who will definitely be at a disadvantage. So there is no need to be surprised that quite a lot of people end up losing money when playing this game because the probability of winning is low and only a certain percentage of people can win from this game.

[zuzie]

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I agree with you, that most slots are self-defeating if we can't manage the money we use to play slots and I see around me that most people who play slots lose and the money they risk is not small.
In my opinion, people who play slots at first are just curious, but over time they become addicted to the game, and don't realize that in fact they will only lose, but it is unlikely that anyone will win compared to the results they get. 90% lose and 10% win.
And the impact of slots is that they are ready to accept defeat and lose the money we have and this will have an impact on ourselves and our own families.

It's true that people who play slots are usually initially curious about this game, maybe they see their friends playing and earning money from it. But indeed this slot is a game that has been designed with a low probability of winning, so when playing this it is the players who will definitely be at a disadvantage. So there is no need to be surprised that quite a lot of people end up losing money when playing this game because the probability of winning is low and only a certain percentage of people can win from this game.

It's no wonder that what I see is that slots are very popular with the public, that's the sophistication of a gambling game that's been well designed and makes many people curious to play it. Even though without realizing it, the person will suffer losses and even lose their money.
I once heard a story from a slot player, that he had won 1 or 2 times in that game and the results were quite a lot, then he kept playing and playing without setting the money he would bet, then after a while he was addicted, and without realizing it was lost a lot of money even work money he also spent playing slots, it's really sad to see someone like that, it will probably have an impact on him and his family.

[ethereumhunter]

I'm not sure whether my slot playing pattern is wrong or whether slots are really the games that drain gamblers' money the most, but slots are the most fun game for me besides sports betting.

It's true that playing slots is fun and exciting, especially when you get scatters, but if you haven't won the jackpot, you will definitely play continuously so that without realizing it, you have spent a lot of money on slots. Therefore, in order to minimize losses, namely by determining the amount that will be spent, playing slots has a greater risk of losing than sports betting and despite the excitement, you still have to consider every loss and be able to control your finances so you don't experience many losses.

That's the point of having self-control so we don't spend much money chasing the jackpot. Maybe we can just play and hope to get a win and even if the win is not big, it is enough for us. Playing slots is fun and exciting and if we can't control ourselves, we can lose track of time and not know when we should stop. Apart from that, we also have to limit the amount of money we can use to gamble, let alone play slots because this gambling game can make us experience big losses if we can't limit ourselves. That is why many gamblers still lose after playing slots and most lose self-control after playing slots for a while.