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July 27, 2023, 01:15:13 PM
Last edit: July 28, 2023, 02:35:23 AM by wwzsocki
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Today I will go to CG to file the complaint. Also will create a flag for Rollbit's main account. This was discussed previously and wasn't sure if I had to take down the initial flag on Razer's account or not to make sure I follow the rules properly.
You keep both flags, no need to remove Razer's flag because both are working for same company and representing Rollbit.

I have created the flag for Rollbit account here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3194

If I have not followed a procedure or did something wrong please let me know. Thank you!
Looks good and supported this one too.

Add the flag in the main post next to the flag link of Rollbit Razer. Make both text format bolder so that everyone can easily notice it.

same here supported your flag OP,

i will be happy to delete it when Rollbit will provide solution or fully answer to questions regarding this matter

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why you haven't supported any of these flags so far? don't you agree with?

I thought that maybe you are not DT1, so i checked and have seen many other flags created, so why no support for this one, if you know this topic so well and I am allowed to ask?

I am just curious this will be my first supported flag in many years because i accidentally started to read this thread and it caught my attention,
answer from such experienced in this field member can be valuable

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July 27, 2023, 08:12:55 PM
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why you haven't supported any of these flags so far? don't you agree with?

I thought that maybe you are not DT1, so i checked and have seen many other flags created, so why no support for this one, if you know this topic so well and I am allowed to ask?

I am just curious this will be my first supported flag in many years because i accidentally started to read this thread and it caught my attention,
answer from such experienced in this field member can be valuable

I've been considering about it several times in the past, but from where I stand and see this case, both parties have contribution to the situation; Rollbit for having a promotion without any countermeasure to prevent abuse and, OP, for --probably-- abusing the bonus, as explained by Rollbit Razer1.

I think --in my personal opinion, of course-- we need more materials and information to add to the scale, which, unfortunately, with Razer's stance that Rollbit will not attend to this case anymore, it's quite unlikely to be achieved. Thus, I PMed Razer several times to get a middle way, which came in form of escalating it to the licensor, where Razer commited their full cooperation and GC will ask evidences that's became the basis of their accusation that OP cheated, and from it, make a decision.

This is the only way right now to get more weight to be put on the scale --a huge and heavy weight, if I may say. So, I am waiting for that ruling. In case GamingCuracao said OP is not considered abusing bonus and Razer --or Rollbit-- doesn't honor that decision, I will support the flag as, when and if that happen, the clause on the flag is fulfilled, namely, to best of my knowledge I am affirming that Rollbit violates an agreement with OP that resulting in damages.

I hope you can see and understand why I am refraining from supporting the flag. Simplified, it's not because I agree or disagree with OP, it's because there's not much evidences to support [or oppose] the flag.


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Hey there,

Firstly, thanks to holydarkness for letting us know about this thread!

This one is a pretty standard Sportsbook abuse case that was flagged to us by our Sportsbook provider. Specifically, they were prolifically abusing bonus features that we offer alongside our Sportsbook offering.

As OP has more or less included, they were told the same via our on-site support. This was not at the expense of the player as they finished in profit on Rollbit.

Thanks,
Razer

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July 28, 2023, 02:34:26 AM
Last edit: July 29, 2023, 06:32:45 PM by wwzsocki
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why you haven't supported any of these flags so far? don't you agree with?
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answer from such experienced in this field member can be valuable

...I think --in my personal opinion, of course-- we need more materials and information to add to the scale, which, unfortunately, with Razer's stance that Rollbit will not attend to this case anymore, it's quite unlikely to be achieved. Thus, I PMed Razer several times to get a middle way, which came in form of escalating it to the licensor, where Razer commited their full cooperation and GC will ask evidences that's became the basis of their accusation that OP cheated, and from it, make a decision...

This is the only way right now to get more weight to be put on the scale --a huge and heavy weight, if I may say. So, I am waiting for that ruling. In case GamingCuracao said OP is not considered abusing bonus and Razer --or Rollbit-- doesn't honor that decision, I will support the flag as, when and if that happen, the clause on the flag is fulfilled, namely, to best of my knowledge I am affirming that Rollbit violates an agreement with OP that resulting in damages.

I hope you can see and understand why I am refraining from supporting the flag. Simplified, it's not because I agree or disagree with OP, it's because there's not much evidences to support [or oppose] the flag...

Thank you very much for this answer, helped me to understand this hall process much better. I agree with you and also will delete my flag support for now, I will keep watching closely this thread and wait for final decision, replies, rulings to have more information and then again decide if support it or not,

like i said this is something new for me, never supported flags and haven't read this board if I didn't had to, so i am total newbie in this field, happy to have you around and truly appreciate this detailed explanation,

patience is a virtue and looks like i have to learn it when decide to support flags

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November 26, 2023, 11:43:59 PM
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RLB holder here. Was a solution found for this, or is Rollbit just a huge scam? it really looks bad that they refuse to go into details. It makes it look like they know that what they are saying is total bullshit and that they just want to keep the money.
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