Another side of Sports betting you may not know about

[YOSHIE]

Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

As far as I know, NFL type sports betting is not the only type of sports game that is used as a sacrifice or negative business by many companies to make big money for them or the sports betting mafia.

America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling

Companies and mobsters who bet on sports betting as I mentioned, that they know there are billions of dollars to be made, are clearly violating, fraudulent effective ways to reach those billions of dollars. gambling used to legalize all means, negative action is a powerful way to take the coffers of $, for those who want to do it.

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[aioc]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

 My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Public perception is powerful sports organizations expect a high level of competition for the public to enjoy, if players are involved in sports betting, they will think that players are betting for the other teams, so while the players or fighters are still active, they should refrain from being involved in sports betting, it will corrode confidence in the whole sports organizations.
This is just right the sports organizations just want to protect their integrity, sports organizations will be ruin if there are reports of game fixing.

[monedauno]

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pjc50
It's a bit of a misnomer. The NFL doesn't have a ban on sports betting. In fact, it's an
exception to the U.S. Supreme Court's ruling in Citizens United v. Federal Election
Committee, which was struck down by the NFL.

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dangrossman
I'm going to start by saying that I have no problem with sports betting. I've
already dealt with it a few times in the past, but I can't help but feel that
it's time to get serious about it.

I don't know how to play sports, but I do know that I'm not the only person who
wants to bet on sports. I've come
across a few that I feel are worth a shot.

I'd like to make a point of not having to worry about it at all. I'm not
entirely looking for a job, I'm just trying to get my head around the concept
of sports betting.

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craigbass
> I've been to a few sports betting events and

[Yatsan]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling

2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html

To all sports I guess but depends on each of the player whether they would be taking part of the gambling side. Quite related with fixed matches but sort of not. Simply shows how powerful money is which could even influence an industry. I'd say such thing is not new in any field of sport and is existing for years. As I've said, it does depend on the player or fighter whether he would choose to be bought. We all have our own reasons on doing things. Ofcourse what is ideal is for players to not be involved with such acts but things does not simply work that way. This is because factors are affecting ethics. What happened with jameson williams have been done by other fighters as well, but ofcourse proving such thing would be hard to achieve.

[uneng]

America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling

That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.

There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues' officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why to use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with its public.

[Cling18]

America, England, Australia and many other countries, it is known that from ancient times the people there have implemented sports betting as a tradition that is often at stake, do not be surprised if in the betting process many negative things happen, for this reason, it's not surprising that we often see sports betting such as: Rugby, WWE, cricket, Boxing, UFC, Golf and many others, being found to violate some of the rules and policies that have been determined in gambling

That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.

There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with the public.

Gambling has been a part of most European country's culture and traditions and anywhere that gambling exists, cheating and corruption also exist simply because it is their way to make money. New regulation policies might exist each day but stopping people from gambling will always be a big challenge to them. Nowadays, they are also implementing and trying to apply different strategies to stop people from gambling but I don't think their strategies would last because no matter what they do, gamblers will always find ways to bet and gamble.

[deepblue01]

That is correct, and it is also the reason why sports betting can't simply vanish from the daily life of those people. It's already part of their tradition and culture along several generations, therefore it's not easy to stop it from existing through a brand new created regulation. The negative side of betting on sports isn't enough to forbid it right now, because it's not something new in sports.

There have always been corrupt athletes, coaches, referees and leagues' officials who attempted to profit from betting by cheating on the results of the matches for all this time. But why to use this excuse only now to prevent people from betting? Isolated cheating attempts have never prevented sports betting from working and being successful with its public.

well, you don't know how hard to be an athlete.
It's just like a job for you, especially the one who need money for living. The winning price is not much to sustain your living expenses.
they will cheers for you when you win and they leave you when you lose. Unless you have been bought and accepted the agreement.

[Silberman]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

1. https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/23501236/supreme-court-strikes-federal-law-prohibiting-sports-gambling

2. https://www.google.com/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/10073237-lions-jameson-williams-among-nfl-players-suspended-for-violating-gambling-policy.amp.html

In almost every sport that I know there are regulations about the athletes making any bets on the games in which they are participating, and those regulations even extend up to their family members, some sports are even more strict and forbid any kind of gambling on their particularly league or even the whole sport, so if an athlete also enjoys gambling they can choose the gamble at casino games like poker or they can choose to gamble in a sport different than the one they play professionally, or they could suffer heavy repercussions by doing so.

[Casdinyard]

I don't think sportsbetting is to be blamed here. This is clearly the fault of the player iteelf. Insider betting is a deliberate offense and an insult to the integrity of the game they undoubtedly invested years and years of professional training for. And it's not like he's jot getting paid well, from the looks of it the guy's a pretty well/known athlete in his sport and is probably getting paid more than enough to keep his business with the team running. This is just a classic case of suooting yourself in the foot. Also, it's not like there's no other way for him to bet. You can literally gamble with anything.

[sunsilk]

If someone who's a professional player, there should be some contract that they're not allowed to gamble. They could be allowed to advertise or have a sponsor that's a bookie and have it as their icon somewhere on their jersey.

That's just about ethics of a professional player and they should know all about it. The thing is, we don't know if all of them are following that rule and just as Jameson.

The prohibition of them to get involved in gambling because that can affect their performances if they've got bets even if it's just a penny, it shouldn't be allowed.

[SFMHodler]

I would not want to watch a rigged game. I remember a few years back there where a bunch on scandals in the german bundesliga, where a referee was working together with a bookie.

[alastantiger]

I think other sports and soccer are not innocent of these. In soccer for instance, a particular player may be paid to commit a certain foul  that will make his team loose just because of money or the player him self placed a bet and by doing so it becomes a kind of fixed game just like the WWE game which the winner is already known befor the start of the game.
When the NFL's bet on a particular game, it drastically affects the player's performances know that they placed a bet on the game. Most sports game are been compromised because of money. I think is quit unfair to some other gamblers.

[wiss19]

This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.

[slapper]

The honesty of competitions? Essential. Credibility with the general populace? Crucial. The example of Jameson Williams demonstrates how sports betting may rock that confidence. Let's take a step back, though. Putting all the blame on gambling on sports? Unfair. Bets have been placed for centuries. Sportsbooks, as well as office pools and fantasy leagues, have become commonplace.

Where did we go wrong? As of late, people seem to be really worried about the negative aspects of gambling. One possible explanation is the media's focus on high-profile instances, such as Jameson's. There is no denying the fact that sports betting is here to stay. What's the catch? The excitement of betting while maintaining the credibility of sports. Come on, then!

[tusandii]

In fact, betting behind a sporting event is something that has happened since ancient times and many people understand this. In fact, many people in the sports industry are also part of a group of bettors so that by betting on a sports match will not affect anything including public trust.
Whether this is only for the NFL or not, I don't know, but for sports like football and others, betting is a natural thing, and many gambling sites even sponsor and partner with them.
To be honest, I myself do not agree with this policy.

[coin-investor]

This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.

I guess it has something to do with public perception and integrity, and it will convert to public support and eventually profit for all stakes holders, the last thing sports organizations want is to get involved or even get a buzz about game fixing so the rules may be harsh for any players but they have to follow these rules however rubbish it may seem.
Players have conduct and ethic to follow so whether they like it or not they have to do this, maybe when they are out of the sports they can bet all they want.

[Taskford]

But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

It can somehow affect the integrity of the game since by having that we can possibly see a game fixing which is happening on other league. And it affect the public confidence especially when they see it happening since they would provably think that the game is cook already and there's someone fixing the game for the benefit of big bettor. But most of the time we can only see this happening on minor leagues only since on leagues there are to many eyes watching them and cameras are all over the place so its hard for them to execute this cheating.

Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted?

This is not only happening on NFL but rather on other big sports but we can see it on minimal situation since we are now on digital days and everything can expose easily.

[deepblue01]

In fact, betting behind a sporting event is something that has happened since ancient times and many people understand this. In fact, many people in the sports industry are also part of a group of bettors so that by betting on a sports match will not affect anything including public trust.
Whether this is only for the NFL or not, I don't know, but for sports like football and others, betting is a natural thing, and many gambling sites even sponsor and partner with them.
To be honest, I myself do not agree with this policy.

we are talking about cheating. it reminds me of Luna and the true story behind it. what if someone in the top rank wanted that to happen?

This is not only happening on NFL but rather on other big sports but we can see it on minimal situation since we are now on digital days and everything can expose easily.

Thats true. It's very hard to cheat a big sport and it depends on the manager too.

[Silberman]

This is the first time I'm hearing about something like that, I've never known that there are gambling policies that a player or a team needs to follow in a game of sport and if they violate them, they are suspended. However, I don't understand why this has anything to do with sports betting and how it is evil in the scene.

If there are policies that need to be followed, make the players or teams follow them, and if they fail, it's their fault and not the fault of sports betting. Everything in the world has a positive and a negative side, you can just shut down or close everything that exists.

I guess it has something to do with public perception and integrity, and it will convert to public support and eventually profit for all stakes holders, the last thing sports organizations want is to get involved or even get a buzz about game fixing so the rules may be harsh for any players but they have to follow these rules however rubbish it may seem.
Players have conduct and ethic to follow so whether they like it or not they have to do this, maybe when they are out of the sports they can bet all they want.

Correct, the sport entertainment industry is huge all around the world, however if the fans begin to question the integrity of the participants and they believe match fixing is taking place then this will take away a great deal of the legitimacy of the league or sport in question, as then there is no point for the fans to watch the matches as the winner has been decided already, I remember that during the 2012 Olympic games 8 players were disqualified at Badminton for losing games on purpose as this would give them access to an easier path to the final, and while what they did made sense for them, this was still a huge scandal as this is not what the spirit of any sport is about.

[mindrust]

I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.