Another side of Sports betting you may not know about

[Gozie51]

But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Such act for a player to embark on betting on themselves or their team is going to have an effect on the performance at the end of it all because there will be a level of biase to the activity of the players and those who are influenced. Some team have it as a rule not to do that and there are penalties for that if caught.

This should not surprise you and it is not only NFL that is involved in this kind of policy. The league actually started investigating the allegation a month before finally coming to the conclusion and suspending 5 players which include:

Sources: NFL suspended 5 players, including #Lions WR Jameson Williams, for violations of NFL gambling policy. #Lions’ CJ Moore & Quintez Cephus, plus #Commanders' Shaka Toney, are suspended indefinitely (at least 1 year). Williams & DET’s Stanley Berryhill are suspended 6 games.

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This is also part of the regulation that some casinos or gambling companies stipulate for their employees not to embark on betting for themselves but only to focus on staking or betting done by customers. Most times, if the employees are found to be violating such conditions, they are sacked instantly. This is happening in gambling companies in Nigeria.

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[Findingnemo]

Fixing the game or cheating in your own team against least favourite for big chunk of money isn't new and many athletes lost their sports career after they found guilty of doing such immoral activities. But for someone who bet few dollars won't take it that much but there also players who bet in millions will take it seriously and turn their life upside down so never trust anything because nothing is 100% perfect.

^ That is a serious offense that can have severe consequences for athletes and their careers. It is not just the large sums of money involved, but also the integrity of the sport itself that is at stake. Even for those who may only bet a few dollars, it is important to remember that every action has consequences, and there's always a risk of getting caught and facing serious penalties. We should always strive for honesty and fair play in all aspects of our lives, both on and off the field.

But "We can't say that everything is happening fairly in any sport because it has become a money-making business in the 21st century. Therefore, even those who are conducting the game, such as the sports board along with sponsors, may take it in the direction of making money, and do anything for it to happen.

This is one of the reasons why I don't get much involved in sports betting and I have also started to lose interest in my favorite sports. I'm not sure if this is happening only to me or if there are others too."

[maydna]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

Are you sure about not allowing athletes and players, let alone team members, to be prohibited from betting, whereas they can do that by asking their family or friends to bet on it, after all, dirty methods like this are mostly practiced in sports gambling and we cannot avoid it because everything returns to its purpose. respectively, namely money, sometimes money will be the main factor for people to cheat.

I never thought this was anything out of the ordinary because even consciously we all know that any practice of cheating in sports betting is not a figment of the imagination and it has been happening for a long time it's just not too widely publicized, moreover there is this thread to discuss it too

Perhaps, the player won't be betting on the sports that the player is a part of, but they can give clues to those closest to them to bet on the team that has a chance of winning. And those closest to him can follow the lead because they think he is an experienced athlete who can tell which team has a higher chance of winning than the other team. And money is a tool to do that because people are very interested and want to know how to make money from gambling. And perhaps, it wasn't cheating because the player was able to prove that he doesn't bet on the sport he is a part of. Meanwhile, if the people closest to him win, the player can get money too.

[Slow death]

in my opinion players of any sport should not be prevented from placing sports bets, I say this because technology is currently very advanced to the point where one or two or even people do it on purpose and manipulate the result during the game just because they bet on it same game, the teams fight to win the games because with that they have more media attention and with more media attention they manage to sell more their right to broadcast, they manage to have more sponsors which would make them much more money than going to play a fixed game mainly because in casinos there are betting limits, it doesn't even make sense for teams to play fixed games nowadays

That's why, in my opinion, players should have the right to place sports bets, and we must not forget that sports betting or any game of chance can be harmful if it is exaggerated, if it is played with the objective of obtaining profits, the person can become become addicted, you may lack concentration and attention during the game in the real world, that's a fact, but you can't generalize and think that it will happen to everyone and that for that reason it has to be forbidden for players to somehow sports make sports betting, I think this is not the path that should be followed

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But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.
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This is very true in the football industry, due to the large influence of gambling platforms, many people are skeptical and think that some of the games are regulated by gambling platforms. We cannot say that all gambling platforms are like that, but big players usually intervene in games and this has often happened in my country where many football clubs here have stumbled on bribery cases involving gambling platforms. Regulation and supervision also don't seem to apply to this, because we know how big the influence of gambling platforms is, especially in important matches, they certainly don't want to lose.

[Silberman]

in my opinion players of any sport should not be prevented from placing sports bets, I say this because technology is currently very advanced to the point where one or two or even people do it on purpose and manipulate the result during the game just because they bet on it same game, the teams fight to win the games because with that they have more media attention and with more media attention they manage to sell more their right to broadcast, they manage to have more sponsors which would make them much more money than going to play a fixed game mainly because in casinos there are betting limits, it doesn't even make sense for teams to play fixed games nowadays

That's why, in my opinion, players should have the right to place sports bets, and we must not forget that sports betting or any game of chance can be harmful if it is exaggerated, if it is played with the objective of obtaining profits, the person can become become addicted, you may lack concentration and attention during the game in the real world, that's a fact, but you can't generalize and think that it will happen to everyone and that for that reason it has to be forbidden for players to somehow sports make sports betting, I think this is not the path that should be followed

I think most leagues do not care if their players make some sport bets on a sport different than the one they compete, however as soon as they make some bets on the same games or the same league then this can affect the confidence of the fans on the games, and without that trust then the whole thing comes crashing down, so in my opinion it makes sense that leagues around the world are at least very strict when it comes to any behavior which may incite any form of match fixing among their players.

[nara1892]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

Are you sure about not allowing athletes and players, let alone team members, to be prohibited from betting, whereas they can do that by asking their family or friends to bet on it, after all, dirty methods like this are mostly practiced in sports gambling and we cannot avoid it because everything returns to its purpose. respectively, namely money, sometimes money will be the main factor for people to cheat.

Even though such a thing is likely to happen and is like an open secret, on the other hand, when an athlete who is directly involved seems to have a bigger influence in terms of integrity.
Actually betting by the athlete himself or maybe his family is not much different, the problem is when something like this happens and then it is published, so this allows for image and performance. Even though the goal, as you said, is only money, but when athletes are involved themselves and are not in a condition to use a third person, such as family or friends, this might be another consideration.

I never thought this was anything out of the ordinary because even consciously we all know that any practice of cheating in sports betting is not a figment of the imagination and it has been happening for a long time it's just not too widely publicized, moreover there is this thread to discuss it too

Agree with this because indeed conditions like this are still very common to be carried out especially in gambling even though it is not published but something like this definitely exists and it is sometimes seen especially for some matches where the caste are not very well known.

[wiss19]

But "We can't say that everything is happening fairly in any sport because it has become a money-making business in the 21st century. Therefore, even those who are conducting the game, such as the sports board along with sponsors, may take it in the direction of making money, and do anything for it to happen.

This is one of the reasons why I don't get much involved in sports betting and I have also started to lose interest in my favorite sports. I'm not sure if this is happening only to me or if there are others too."

Well, nothing always happens fairly in any sport or even outside sports, in any sector or industry, there will always be some people who would do almost anything for money, and even if that makes a bad name about the sport or whatever they are involved in, it isn't necessary for us to blame the whole department just because of some people.

Cricket is my favorite sport, and though I know that there can be people who fix matches or take the money and agree to do anything even cheat their own team, that doesn't make me hate the sport itself, I will hate those people for doing such things.

[Johnyz]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

Definitely right, they should be strictly prohibited because they are part of the team and this can affect the integrity of the sports, and if this will expose I’m sure that team and that player will not be on a good position. Though the gambling site should already have the restrictions with regards to this one, the problem here is that if you are a real gambler I’m sure you will let someone place a bet for you just to avoid this restrictions.

[livingfree]

Definitely right, they should be strictly prohibited because they are part of the team and this can affect the integrity of the sports, and if this will expose I’m sure that team and that player will not be on a good position. Though the gambling site should already have the restrictions with regards to this one, the problem here is that if you are a real gambler I’m sure you will let someone place a bet for you just to avoid this restrictions.

I am not sure if there's a contract written that they should avoid gambling as well related to their sports or they're not allowed to gamble no matter what type of games they do.

But in order for them to protect their integrity, this is a good rule that should be apply to all the professional athletes as most of their games can be found in sportsbook.

Let the gamble happen on the fans and not with these professionals that do cast their bets on their own.

[goaldigger]

Definitely right, they should be strictly prohibited because they are part of the team and this can affect the integrity of the sports, and if this will expose I’m sure that team and that player will not be on a good position. Though the gambling site should already have the restrictions with regards to this one, the problem here is that if you are a real gambler I’m sure you will let someone place a bet for you just to avoid this restrictions.

I am not sure if there's a contract written that they should avoid gambling as well related to their sports or they're not allowed to gamble no matter what type of games they do.

But in order for them to protect their integrity, this is a good rule that should be apply to all the professional athletes as most of their games can be found in sportsbook.

Let the gamble happen on the fans and not with these professionals that do cast their bets on their own.

This is the practice already where the players are not allowed to take participate on any bet in relation to their sports and to the team, but some are still ignoring the rules and now they have to pay for the price of it especially if they will be caught in action. Betting on your own team or sports might already kill the integrity of the players, as a player you should avoid doing this. I’m pretty sure they are not restricted to gamble at all, but there are limitations.

[livingfree]

I am not sure if there's a contract written that they should avoid gambling as well related to their sports or they're not allowed to gamble no matter what type of games they do.

But in order for them to protect their integrity, this is a good rule that should be apply to all the professional athletes as most of their games can be found in sportsbook.

Let the gamble happen on the fans and not with these professionals that do cast their bets on their own.

This is the practice already where the players are not allowed to take participate on any bet in relation to their sports and to the team, but some are still ignoring the rules and now they have to pay for the price of it especially if they will be caught in action. Betting on your own team or sports might already kill the integrity of the players, as a player you should avoid doing this. I’m pretty sure they are not restricted to gamble at all, but there are limitations.

Those athletes that don't know how to honor their contracts or sporting rules that they're part of should learn the hardest way.

Those fines that shall be imposed on them should be a lot of money for them to never do that again and will start honoring their contract and rules that's being placed upon each of them.

They'll never stop and learn until there's a big chunk of money deducted on their salaries and contracts, that will make them meek and obedient.

[Mauser]

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Also the first time I am reading about people complaining about the integrity of the sport itself due to gambling. Usually the critics of sports betting and gambling in general see a risk for the public due to gambling addiction and not for morally corrupting the players. In my opinion this is not really the case as most of the top athletes would never risk their job for gambling on their own matches. If you already have a contract to earn millions by playing the game, why would you risk it all for some small profit? It's also surprising that something like that would happen in NFL, where you have so many players per team that the impact of one individual is much smaller. The same goes for football, there are so many viewers and cameras covering the match that it's hard to deliberate throw a game in your favour. It's common that in all competitive sports the players are not allowed to bet on their own matches and I would expect to most player follow that rule. 

[fullhdpixel]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

Are you sure about not allowing athletes and players, let alone team members, to be prohibited from betting, whereas they can do that by asking their family or friends to bet on it, after all, dirty methods like this are mostly practiced in sports gambling and we cannot avoid it because everything returns to its purpose. respectively, namely money, sometimes money will be the main factor for people to cheat.

I never thought this was anything out of the ordinary because even consciously we all know that any practice of cheating in sports betting is not a figment of the imagination and it has been happening for a long time it's just not too widely publicized, moreover there is this thread to discuss it too

If they do that, they only prove that they can't follow a simple instruction. Their morals are already destroyed but it's not a problem if they already did it before. There is a big chance that who does this are also involved in a match-fixing.

There is a way to avoid it if we knew it will happen because it affects our betting experience but if you are also dishonest like the players and you know if which team will win, you will be glad to ride it. Topics like this are regularly being discussed in this board but people can easily moved on. We don't focus on it because we know that there are still lots of positive side of sports betting and they are more worthy to talk about.

[dezoel]

I think most leagues do not care if their players make some sport bets on a sport different than the one they compete, however as soon as they make some bets on the same games or the same league then this can affect the confidence of the fans on the games, and without that trust then the whole thing comes crashing down, so in my opinion it makes sense that leagues around the world are at least very strict when it comes to any behavior which may incite any form of match fixing among their players.

I wonder how would team management know if a player has actually placed a bet on the match they are participating in since they can always do it anonymously, especially in such times when many cryptocurrency sports betting platforms let you place bets without any inquiries if the bet amount isn't too high and some even allow bigger bets since they don't ask for KYC.

And they would obviously not care if a player is generally gambling and placing bets on another sport or even on the same sport but on a different team, that shouldn't be a violation since they cannot have any influence on those matches.

[Silberman]

I think most leagues do not care if their players make some sport bets on a sport different than the one they compete, however as soon as they make some bets on the same games or the same league then this can affect the confidence of the fans on the games, and without that trust then the whole thing comes crashing down, so in my opinion it makes sense that leagues around the world are at least very strict when it comes to any behavior which may incite any form of match fixing among their players.

I wonder how would team management know if a player has actually placed a bet on the match they are participating in since they can always do it anonymously, especially in such times when many cryptocurrency sports betting platforms let you place bets without any inquiries if the bet amount isn't too high and some even allow bigger bets since they don't ask for KYC.

And they would obviously not care if a player is generally gambling and placing bets on another sport or even on the same sport but on a different team, that shouldn't be a violation since they cannot have any influence on those matches.

It is known that a great deal of the criminals end up outing themselves as they like to brag about what they did, so while you are right and some of those players could remain anonymous by gambling with cryptocurrencies on matches in which they participate, they will eventually tell someone, which in turn will tell to someone else, until all the team knows what they are up to and eventually someone which is willing to do something about it finds out and then those players receive the sanctions they deserve.

[TimeTeller]

I think most leagues do not care if their players make some sport bets on a sport different than the one they compete, however as soon as they make some bets on the same games or the same league then this can affect the confidence of the fans on the games, and without that trust then the whole thing comes crashing down, so in my opinion it makes sense that leagues around the world are at least very strict when it comes to any behavior which may incite any form of match fixing among their players.

I wonder how would team management know if a player has actually placed a bet on the match they are participating in since they can always do it anonymously, especially in such times when many cryptocurrency sports betting platforms let you place bets without any inquiries if the bet amount isn't too high and some even allow bigger bets since they don't ask for KYC.

And they would obviously not care if a player is generally gambling and placing bets on another sport or even on the same sport but on a different team, that shouldn't be a violation since they cannot have any influence on those matches.

I believe that's already happening. If the athlete is very discreet with his gambling activities.
We can't say that they are not totally participating as we don't know them what they are doing 24/7.
They can easily place bets by letting his friends, family or other close friends to do such betting for them.
So we can't say they are not doing it because there are so many options how to execute it silently.
So long they are not fixing the game to favor their bets, and just let the game flow in natural way, I think there won't be any problem.

[peter0425]

I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.

I think the International Sports Federation knows about that. As long as the price to win the game exceeds the risk&bet amount, there would be no point in worrying.
Everyone has their own number. if that is a big game, the players know it will cost their own carrier

Players that willing to be part of rigging doesn't really care about that though indeed that it is their career that will be burn yet it is about how much they can get before the burning .
so caring is not the first priority but how much is involved.
lesson here is never bet in a game that is prone to being rigged and there are rumors that Basketball and boxing is mostly affected by this but of course there are other sports that has this now.

[South Park]

Players that willing to be part of rigging doesn't really care about that though indeed that it is their career that will be burn yet it is about how much they can get before the burning .
so caring is not the first priority but how much is involved.
lesson here is never bet in a game that is prone to being rigged and there are rumors that Basketball and boxing is mostly affected by this but of course there are other sports that has this now.

Unfortunately you cannot know which matches are rigged or not beforehand, there are some boxing matches in which it has been quite obvious the judges were favoring one of the fighters, and yet despite the fact the whole world watched one fighter win the match the judges give the match to the other fighter, and while sometimes the argument about the fans not being very knowledgeable about the sport may make some sense, there have been many instances in which even the experts complain about it, showing very clearly those judges were bought before the fight and as such the whole thing was rigged.

[madnessteat]

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In any area where there is a lot of money, and sports betting is just one of those areas, there will always be people seeking every possible way to cheat the system and make money on it. So just build into your analytics some probability that any match can be fixed. Understanding this is not so disappointing when the team that was supposed to win suddenly los