Another side of Sports betting you may not know about

[deepblue01]

I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence.

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.

I think the International Sports Federation knows about that. As long as the price to win the game exceeds the risk&bet amount, there would be no point in worrying.
Everyone has their own number. if that is a big game, the players know it will cost their own carrier

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[iv4n]

Is it about sports betting or people who tried to abuse sports betting and make a fortune by fixing games? Are they the first or the last? They are not, this is just on a higher level. I guess that the amount of money involved represents the level... When people are ready to abuse a few dollar bonuses we can imagine what some people are ready to do for some very high amounts.

Nothing new in this crazy world!

[Fortify]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.

[Findingnemo]

Fixing the game or cheating in your own team against least favourite for big chunk of money isn't new and many athletes lost their sports career after they found guilty of doing such immoral activities. But for someone who bet few dollars won't take it that much but there also players who bet in millions will take it seriously and turn their life upside down so never trust anything because nothing is 100% perfect.

[South Park]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.

This happens because many sport associations hide the majority of those cases as they do not want to gain a negative reputation, even when there is evidence which can be inferred from the results of the matches nothing is done, and example of this happens at Sumo, in that sport there are tournaments in which each fighter needs to fight 15 times, once each day, and if they have a winning record then they can escalate the rankings and earn more money, this means they need 8 victories to go up in the rankings or at least to remain where they are, and there is conclusive evidence the majority of the Sumo fighters cheat when one of them has already reached the 8 victories they need while they fight an opponent with 7 victories and defeats during the last match of the tournament, basically they let the fighter that needs that 8 victory win and then during the next tournament they get that win back, has something ever be done about this even when it is clear the majority of the Sumo fighters cheat? Not that I am aware.

[Pierre 2]

I think this sounds pretty normal. (I mean suspension of players who bet on their own games). They are part of that competition so they shouldn't be allowed to gamble in that tournament. Not only their matches even. There were claims of match-fixing in our local football league years ago. When players start to speak about it you see that how dirty it can become. For nfl I don't think its that much different.  Players probably benefit financially from gambling on. Its something shouldn't happen.

[AmoreJaz]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

Any time bet rigging is found the consequences should be very severe (and often are) because it is such a devious way to defraud, but also very hard to gather evidence on. We only hear about the successful prosecutions, sometimes based on atrocious or completely unexpected playing patterns, but there will have been plenty of bet rigging involving sport participants that has gone undetected in the past. It can make all parties quite rich if done very subtly and often only betting companies see the major red flags but might still not have enough proof to escalate.

this kind of cheating can be found in almost all sports, however, as you said, most were undetected and people already moved on. i think this kind of act won't be totally eliminated as there are athletes that you can still bribe with tons of money or promoters accepting huge sum of money. we can't totally eradicate this practice. and for sure, there are a lot of these athletes who are also in sportsbetting. maybe betting not using their names but someone outside so as not to create red flags.

[passwordnow]

This has long gone happened on the esports side. The integrity of some players has been wasted and gone when they've been caught betting particularly with their matches.
It's gonna cause them to either sell their game or not perform well because they've got a bet on their opponent's team for those matches. Until now, in some lower leagues and even some with close to the top tier online leagues, this does happen specifically on Dota 2. I know that there's no exemption on this one because we're aware that probably this is also being done in other sports. There's always been the dark side of gambling for these sports.

[DoublerHunter]

Fixing the game or cheating in your own team against least favourite for big chunk of money isn't new and many athletes lost their sports career after they found guilty of doing such immoral activities. But for someone who bet few dollars won't take it that much but there also players who bet in millions will take it seriously and turn their life upside down so never trust anything because nothing is 100% perfect.

^ That is a serious offense that can have severe consequences for athletes and their careers. It is not just the large sums of money involved, but also the integrity of the sport itself that is at stake. Even for those who may only bet a few dollars, it is important to remember that every action has consequences, and there's always a risk of getting caught and facing serious penalties. We should always strive for honesty and fair play in all aspects of our lives, both on and off the field.

[dothebeats]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

[cabron]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

If rooting on their own team I think will not compromise the game. It will motivate them to win aggressively and do their best.
It is however going to be compromising when the athletes know they are not going to win against the other team. And when they have this feeling that they'd just be dominated, there will be a desire to bet for the other team.  

It could be the matchmaker's fault if it's a tournament like the NFL but in other sports like boxing, the promotions already have the idea of the odds.

[danherbias07]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

That's correct and it's actually a part of their contract so they have no valid reason to fight this in court or wherever he finds he can win it because he agreed to the said contract. This is the problem with players that are also gamblers, and most of the time they are doing it for profits and not for other good reasons like supporting the gambling site.
There are a lot of games they could play and gamble, why pick the ones you are a part of? I am sure they didn't forget about it, it's just greed that took over. They are just making a big mistake in ruining their career, especially those players who are making millions of dollars every year.
Casino games are wide open, they should forget about sports betting unless they are retired.

[Weawant]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

It doesn't apply to only the NFL, we can see this happening in soccer as well. It mightn't happen to the professional league but the minor league get affected easily since things can be done in those league and be gotten away with like match fixing and other illegal officiating.

I think anyone who's caught for match fixing in any of the sports should be punished severely so others can learn. Match fixing takes out the integrity of the game and also reduced fans attendance which makes the clubs lose money.

This is also the reason it's prohibited for those involved with sports to place bets. Imagine if a coach bets on his side to lose and the payout would be big. He'll intentionally sabotage the game with wrong tactics so it goes in his favor and he wins.

[swogerino]

Congress has long-recognized the potential harms posed by sports betting to the integrity of sporting contests and the public confidence in these events.

This topic stems from the suspension of Jameson Williams for 6 games because he violated the gambling policy. I dug a little and found out the reason for the policy. My understanding of this is that there are two sides to sports betting, the gambler's side and then sports contest games. But this is the first time I am reading that sports betting can affect the game negatively and results in reduced public confidence. Does this apply to the NFL only? What about soccer and other sports? Are they exempted? Let's talk about this.

It doesn't apply to only the NFL, we can see this happening in soccer as well. It mightn't happen to the professional league but the minor league get affected easily since things can be done in those league and be gotten away with like match fixing and other illegal officiating.

I think anyone who's caught for match fixing in any of the sports should be punished severely so others can learn. Match fixing takes out the integrity of the game and also reduced fans attendance which makes the clubs lose money.

This is also the reason it's prohibited for those involved with sports to place bets. Imagine if a coach bets on his side to lose and the payout would be big. He'll intentionally sabotage the game with wrong tactics so it goes in his favor and he wins.

I strongly agree for the minor leagues,especially from what I have read in the past and even seen one of such thing first hand is that Denmark lowest divisions together with Norway who has a lot of lower divisions can easily be fixed as no one cares for what is going on there from UEFA/FIFA I believe.Funny how such games are rarely up for betting in the reputable casinos but in the shady ones who can as well not pay you at all these are all there.

I saw a person playing a correct exact score on Denmark 7th division in a local lotto club many years ago and that game ended exactly with that result,I don't know if it were fixed but surely raised a lot of doubts in my head.

[tusandii]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

But I believe that in reality many athletes, players and members of sports teams also participate in several bets because there are several cases that we can see about winning or losing bets made by players or team members in the sports industry even they will definitely bet on the team themselves if it is seen from the start they will win the game, it's just that the bets they make are hidden.
Betting cannot be avoided by anyone even though there are restrictions that regulate it.
Actually this can have a negative impact but somehow they want big money so the bet is still made.

[Apocollapse]

But I believe that in reality many athletes, players and members of sports teams also participate in several bets because there are several cases that we can see about winning or losing bets made by players or team members in the sports industry even they will definitely bet on the team themselves if it is seen from the start they will win the game, it's just that the bets they make are hidden.
Betting cannot be avoided by anyone even though there are restrictions that regulate it.
Actually this can have a negative impact but somehow they want big money so the bet is still made.

It will not last long, you forget if casino is a centralized site and they will collect your information.

If the athlete, player or team participate in gambling, they will be monitored and the casino would report them if they're able to identify it. Yeah they can ask their friends or someone that willing to place bet for them, but sooner or later they will get busted due to transaction history and anything else connected.

[wiss19]

Sports betting may affect the game negatively only if the player has also made bets on the game he is playing in and that's already forbidden. What if the player's distant relative made the bet though? That would complicate things. Stuff like that indeed happens and the public would indeed lose their confidence in the games because of those incidents.

Let's say I am the goalkeeper of Team A. In the last minute right before the game, my brother told me that he wagered on the Team B's win against my team. That might affect me in a negative way. It shouldn't normally but we are humans... When people learn about that story, they will question my professionalism righteously.

I think the International Sports Federation knows about that. As long as the price to win the game exceeds the risk&bet amount, there would be no point in worrying.
Everyone has their own number. if that is a big game, the players know it will cost their own carrier

Most of the time, fixers pay way more than the winning amount or the match fees to a certain player that they want to involve in match-fixing, and though some of them refuse and don't take the risk of losing their career and deceiving their team and the nation if it's an international match, some actually take the risk and the money.

And when that happens, it sometimes doesn't get caught and the players get away with it so do the fixers, but, sometimes they are caught and the careers of the players involved get over right at that time. It's basically a very big gamble and isn't worth taking.

[piebeyb]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

Are you sure about not allowing athletes and players, let alone team members, to be prohibited from betting, whereas they can do that by asking their family or friends to bet on it, after all, dirty methods like this are mostly practiced in sports gambling and we cannot avoid it because everything returns to its purpose. respectively, namely money, sometimes money will be the main factor for people to cheat.

I never thought this was anything out of the ordinary because even consciously we all know that any practice of cheating in sports betting is not a figment of the imagination and it has been happening for a long time it's just not too widely publicized, moreover there is this thread to discuss it too

[Taskford]

This is why athletes, players, and team members aren't allowed to make bets on the sports that they are a part of themselves. It removes the integrity on the sport because they're making it look like they're profiting off of each other and the incentive isn't to get better at the game or entertain people but rather just for the monetary gains. It also removes the people's trust on the league that the sport belongs to, which will reduce viewership and will surely affect the league in a lot of ways = may affect the gambling aspect of the sport as well.

But I believe that in reality many athletes, players and members of sports teams also participate in several bets because there are several cases that we can see about winning or losing bets made by players or team members in the sports industry even they will definitely bet on the team themselves if it is seen from the start they will win the game, it's just that the bets they make are hidden.
Betting cannot be avoided by anyone even though there are restrictions that regulate it.
Actually this can have a negative impact but somehow they want big money so the bet is still made.

Hard to get a proof regarding on this claims since in first place they are paid huge just to play the sport so provably participating on this kind of betting is not part of their concern. Maybe there are insiders are part of this and they give tips regarding on issues that's why other take this as good indicator to place their bets or not. Overall its hard to say that your claim is true but let see if there's a case like this will be expose since thi is really a big story revealed on the league.

[Aikidoka]

I believe that sports game odds can have an impact on teams and players at some point, especially when they realize that the bets are against them to win the game. This could slightly affect their performance, which is not a good thing, but it is an unavoidable aspect of sports betting since its inception.

Unfortunately, in some low-divisions and unknown football leagues, there are cases where teams and players are involved in match-fixing. I mean when the odds are quite tempting they sell the game and involve themselves in the gambling procedure, using various weird tactics to win or lose the game and make a lot of money through betting. These are commonly known as fixed matches.

These fixed correct score games are sold for a lot of money on the dark web, and people can place maximum bets and win a lot of money. This kind of behavior is unfair and significantly reduces the integrity and fairness of the game.