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May 17, 2023, 09:32:49 PM
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It's applied in every league...
But why would they create a diversified betting strategy and still say the game is fair enough?? Wouldn't that mean they already know what the game will end as, so for that reason, a ban is placed against the players themselves??...
I don't even know how the terms of operation looks like, but I do know that shit's happening in smaller league of the European football game and they admins do alot to cover 'em Traces... Even if I Begin to gamble today, I can't bet on smaller games.

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May 17, 2023, 10:27:02 PM
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In any area where there is a lot of money, and sports betting is just one of those areas, there will always be people seeking every possible way to cheat the system and make money on it. So just build into your analytics some probability that any match can be fixed. Understanding this is not so disappointing when the team that was supposed to win suddenly los

Most of the time we can see the game fixing on important games like playoffs since businessman want to stretch up the series since they want to get more ticket sales and earn from sponsorship so we also need to watch that since giving out a win to favor on a team is really happening. And we also need to look at this scenario since this is happening on sports, to many manipulation happen since there's huge money involve and some want to take advantage on big games since this could generate them more profits.

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May 17, 2023, 11:10:35 PM
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Sports betting affects the game,  and anything that affects the game, affects both ways, both positively and Negatively.
Sports Gambling can be regulated, instead of out rightly banning it.
It affects the game when players of that particular sport also gambling. Players, owners of clubs, coaches, technical crew and every other people involve in a particular sports should not gamble in that particular sport. This way, they wont have any ulterior motive to affect the game.
In soccer there are strict penalties for involving in gambling as a player.
There may still be match fixing and all but it is very reduced to the lowest part of the spot where there is no much scrutiny.

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May 18, 2023, 10:39:41 AM
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It's applied in every league...
But why would they create a diversified betting strategy and still say the game is fair enough?? Wouldn't that mean they already know what the game will end as, so for that reason, a ban is placed against the players themselves??...
I don't even know how the terms of operation looks like, but I do know that shit's happening in smaller league of the European football game and they admins do alot to cover 'em Traces... Even if I Begin to gamble today, I can't bet on smaller games.

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I agree with you. I think match fixing tend to happen in lower leagues. I guess people who operate such kind of rings like to be undercover. Who would watch a match in like 3rd league of some eastern European country? Probably noone. Anyways, its definitely strange to observe a player gambling himself/herself. I wish influence of gambling on our lives was far lowered so we could both have fair sports games and fair gambling. Its obvious that gambling's mere existence effects everything.
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May 18, 2023, 12:19:32 PM
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Sports betting affects the game,  and anything that affects the game, affects both ways, both positively and Negatively.
Sports Gambling can be regulated, instead of out rightly banning it.
It affects the game when players of that particular sport also gambling. Players, owners of clubs, coaches, technical crew and every other people involve in a particular sports should not gamble in that particular sport. This way, they wont have any ulterior motive to affect the game.
In soccer there are strict penalties for involving in gambling as a player.
There may still be match fixing and all but it is very reduced to the lowest part of the spot where there is no much scrutiny.

What you've mentioned are likely existing rules in certain leagues. Players and coaches should not be allowed to gamble on their own games because it would raise suspicions among fans that they might be involved in manipulating game outcomes. Considering the enormous size of the sports betting industry, which is worth billions of dollars, there is a risk that a player could place a large bet against themselves or their team and deliberately lose in order to make easy money without being detected. Such actions would greatly undermine the credibility of the league as a whole, and that's something we definitely want to avoid.



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May 18, 2023, 12:54:50 PM
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Sports betting affects the game,  and anything that affects the game, affects both ways, both positively and Negatively.
Sports Gambling can be regulated, instead of out rightly banning it.
It affects the game when players of that particular sport also gambling. Players, owners of clubs, coaches, technical crew and every other people involve in a particular sports should not gamble in that particular sport. This way, they wont have any ulterior motive to affect the game.

Soccer has betting regulations yet we still have the players that are defaulting, all players, coach and other coaching staff should be banned from gambling. They should only be allowed to bet when they have retired officially from the sport they're involved in.

Fans should be allowed to bet as it bring entertainment for some fans and also gives them an opportunity to earn money for their knowledge on their favorite sports. Betting should only be banned for those that can influence the results of the game

If sport betting were to be banned it means many sportsbook will run out of business and many clubs both those in soccer and other sports will lose a lot of money. They'll lose sponsorship and partnership and that'll make clubs run ot of money to manage the clubs.

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May 18, 2023, 03:42:06 PM
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Sports betting affects the game,  and anything that affects the game, affects both ways, both positively and Negatively.
Sports Gambling can be regulated, instead of out rightly banning it.
It affects the game when players of that particular sport also gambling. Players, owners of clubs, coaches, technical crew and every other people involve in a particular sports should not gamble in that particular sport. This way, they wont have any ulterior motive to affect the game.
In soccer there are strict penalties for involving in gambling as a player.
There may still be match fixing and all but it is very reduced to the lowest part of the spot where there is no much scrutiny.

What you've mentioned are likely existing rules in certain leagues. Players and coaches should not be allowed to gamble on their own games because it would raise suspicions among fans that they might be involved in manipulating game outcomes. Considering the enormous size of the sports betting industry, which is worth billions of dollars, there is a risk that a player could place a large bet against themselves or their team and deliberately lose in order to make easy money without being detected. Such actions would greatly undermine the credibility of the league as a whole, and that's something we definitely want to avoid.
But there may still be some betting from those players and coaches, especially if the match is not in their region and a different league. Especially if the match comes from another country, it is unlikely that they will know the final result, which a group of people may arrange. And as long as the surveillance isn't too strict, they can still bet and will stop when the surveillance starts again, so they won't be able to be tracked by the regulatory agency. But I don't know, we don't know or it's hard to know the truth, and we can only guess.
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What you've mentioned are likely existing rules in certain leagues. Players and coaches should not be allowed to gamble on their own games because it would raise suspicions among fans that they might be involved in manipulating game outcomes. Considering the enormous size of the sports betting industry, which is worth billions of dollars, there is a risk that a player could place a large bet against themselves or their team and deliberately lose in order to make easy money without being detected. Such actions would greatly undermine the credibility of the league as a whole, and that's something we definitely want to avoid.
But there may still be some betting from those players and coaches, especially if the match is not in their region and a different league. Especially if the match comes from another country, it is unlikely that they will know the final result, which a group of people may arrange. And as long as the surveillance isn't too strict, they can still bet and will stop when the surveillance starts again, so they won't be able to be tracked by the regulatory agency. But I don't know, we don't know or it's hard to know the truth, and we can only guess.
There is no doubt in my mind that this is already happening, what we do not know is the extent of this practice, if we are talking about only a few people doing this then that is within the acceptable limits, as it is probable those which are doing that are players which are not the very best and as such their influence over important games is limited, however if this practice is widespread then this could spell doom to any sport, as the moment this was revealed fans will become incredibly disappointed this was the case, and some of them may give up on the sport for good.
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What you've mentioned are likely existing rules in certain leagues. Players and coaches should not be allowed to gamble on their own games because it would raise suspicions among fans that they might be involved in manipulating game outcomes. Considering the enormous size of the sports betting industry, which is worth billions of dollars, there is a risk that a player could place a large bet against themselves or their team and deliberately lose in order to make easy money without being detected. Such actions would greatly undermine the credibility of the league as a whole, and that's something we definitely want to avoid.
But there may still be some betting from those players and coaches, especially if the match is not in their region and a different league. Especially if the match comes from another country, it is unlikely that they will know the final result, which a group of people may arrange. And as long as the surveillance isn't too strict, they can still bet and will stop when the surveillance starts again, so they won't be able to be tracked by the regulatory agency. But I don't know, we don't know or it's hard to know the truth, and we can only guess.
There is no doubt in my mind that this is already happening, what we do not know is the extent of this practice, if we are talking about only a few people doing this then that is within the acceptable limits, as it is probable those which are doing that are players which are not the very best and as such their influence over important games is limited, however if this practice is widespread then this could spell doom to any sport, as the moment this was revealed fans will become incredibly disappointed this was the case, and some of them may give up on the sport for good.
I think this practice has been around for a long time, and not many people know about it, so it makes people who do it feel safe. After all, activities like this may have gotten bigger because there is no strict supervision from the authorities, so they can still do it outside their league. And it's true that if this gets out and the public finds out about it, there will be a huge wave of demonstrations demanding that those involved with the activity be punished. But let's hope that doesn't happen in the sports leagues in our country so that none of the fans will be disappointed after knowing about it.
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May 19, 2023, 06:53:45 PM
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I think the International Sports Federation knows about that. As long as the price to win the game exceeds the risk&bet amount, there would be no point in worrying.
Everyone has their own number. if that is a big game, the players know it will cost their own carrier
Players that willing to be part of rigging doesn't really care about that though indeed that it is their career that will be burn yet it is about how much they can get before the burning .
so caring is not the first priority but how much is involved.
lesson here is never bet in a game that is prone to being rigged and there are rumors that Basketball and boxing is mostly affected by this but of course there are other sports that has this now.
Almost every single sport is prone to match-fixing as such people will do it everywhere to fill their pockets. Football is the biggest sport in the world, and if things like these can happen in football, you can imagine that they can happen in any sport out there, it is just that some of it is done on a lower level while some is done on a bigger scale.

If you are a sports bettor, you can't just ignore all the sports that you have experienced since that will leave you with no option at all, so you are basically compelled to make bets and since you can't know about such things beforehand, you might face losses sometimes due to this.
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I think this practice has been around for a long time, and not many people know about it, so it makes people who do it feel safe. After all, activities like this may have gotten bigger because there is no strict supervision from the authorities, so they can still do it outside their league. And it's true that if this gets out and the public finds out about it, there will be a huge wave of demonstrations demanding that those involved with the activity be punished. But let's hope that doesn't happen in the sports leagues in our country so that none of the fans will be disappointed after knowing about it.

Shut up money for bets like this will also be bigger and there will be no one to carry out checks regarding player and coach bets. The turnover of money may be quite large and behind big bets there are several players who provide this capital. But that is the world of gambling, and anyone can do it without their real identity.
Big matches are of course the main target as bigger stakes. Somehow the authorities will overcome this kind of betting problem, because the flow of funds is also large and increasingly strong to take shelter and stay safe.

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May 20, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
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I think this practice has been around for a long time, and not many people know about it, so it makes people who do it feel safe. After all, activities like this may have gotten bigger because there is no strict supervision from the authorities, so they can still do it outside their league. And it's true that if this gets out and the public finds out about it, there will be a huge wave of demonstrations demanding that those involved with the activity be punished. But let's hope that doesn't happen in the sports leagues in our country so that none of the fans will be disappointed after knowing about it.

Shut up money for bets like this will also be bigger and there will be no one to carry out checks regarding player and coach bets. The turnover of money may be quite large and behind big bets there are several players who provide this capital. But that is the world of gambling, and anyone can do it without their real identity.
Big matches are of course the main target as bigger stakes. Somehow the authorities will overcome this kind of betting problem, because the flow of funds is also large and increasingly strong to take shelter and stay safe.
Especially if many people are involved in such practices, they would cover it up tightly and not let anyone else know about it. The checks carried out may only be for formality so that the public knows that the officers involved have checked everything and made sure everything is safe. Maybe big fights are the main target, but they will involve a lot of people in it, and if it gets caught by the public, it could cause the public's trust to drop drastically, and they won't give their support anymore.
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Almost every single sport is prone to match-fixing as such people will do it everywhere to fill their pockets. Football is the biggest sport in the world, and if things like these can happen in football, you can imagine that they can happen in any sport out there, it is just that some of it is done on a lower level while some is done on a bigger scale.

If you are a sports bettor, you can't just ignore all the sports that you have experienced since that will leave you with no option at all, so you are basically compelled to make bets and since you can't know about such things beforehand, you might face losses sometimes due to this.
Those footballers that are going to recklessly destroy their career just because of betting, they are not thinking correctly. How much bet will it take for them to throw a game and sell it?

I don't think it's the wisest thing to do and these people should learn that there's so much more on the pro scene and look at those richest footballers that have been protecting their reputation.

That's what they should think of and not all about gambling and throwing games for quick money, it's unethical and will be forever engraved to their names if they've been caught to be part of it.



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May 20, 2023, 11:33:25 PM
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Especially if many people are involved in such practices, they would cover it up tightly and not let anyone else know about it. The checks carried out may only be for formality so that the public knows that the officers involved have checked everything and made sure everything is safe. Maybe big fights are the main target, but they will involve a lot of people in it, and if it gets caught by the public, it could cause the public's trust to drop drastically, and they won't give their support anymore.

that's the risk, but we can see that at the moment there is no news whatsoever about insider betting news. It is indeed completely private and only a few people know about it, and many money transactions are carried out. this could be a side practice of some other player or staff, a behind the scenes practice completely protected from the outside world.
inspection is only a formality, but in reality all rottenness is properly covered up. Nowadays platforms for betting are easier to access, easier to do without a trace.

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Especially if many people are involved in such practices, they would cover it up tightly and not let anyone else know about it. The checks carried out may only be for formality so that the public knows that the officers involved have checked everything and made sure everything is safe. Maybe big fights are the main target, but they will involve a lot of people in it, and if it gets caught by the public, it could cause the public's trust to drop drastically, and they won't give their support anymore.

that's the risk, but we can see that at the moment there is no news whatsoever about insider betting news. It is indeed completely private and only a few people know about it, and many money transactions are carried out. this could be a side practice of some other player or staff, a behind the scenes practice completely protected from the outside world.
inspection is only a formality, but in reality all rottenness is properly covered up. Nowadays platforms for betting are easier to access, easier to do without a trace.
And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.
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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.
What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.

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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.
What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.
There are many cases in sports betting and especially in football, sometimes there is fixing the score in every game so that we can lose because we chose the wrong club with the seed, that's why I'm more interested in sports betting in the big league and never betting on the minor leagues because it usually happens a lot. fraud in it and many people who do business like that.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes.  Cheesy

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May 21, 2023, 01:43:31 PM
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I think scripted match is nothing new, there has been many cases founded since long time ago. It's already become hard because the government are tightening rule and identity verification, so they can see the money flowing, who's send to who, how much they send etc.

I've heard of cheating cases like this in football, where insiders already know the results so they can bet big money to get big wins too in the stakes.  Cheesy
Maybe the Liverpool vs Manchester United match where Liverpool scored 7 goals was a scripted match? Cheesy

No one was expect Liverpool can score 7 goals when they were playing very bad at that time.

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May 21, 2023, 01:49:27 PM
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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.
What you are saying will actually just be a chain that rotates in a gambling because the insiders who participate in betting also use larger amounts of money so there will be no possible operation that will succeed because everything will return to the money where when there is money in huge amount no one can stop it.
Actually this is very detrimental for us because it can change the results that should already be obvious.
But it's also those with the bigger bucks who will reign supreme in sports betting.
Of course this scenario is like this is very detrimental and becomes an unfair gamble for us who are generally following the gamble in one of the teams that should have won but are required to lose, this is the dark side of the soccer or other sports gains and seems to be easily in manipulation among insiders.
No matter how much the money used by people inside to manipulate this, of course it is not a fair thing and is very detrimental to many parties who should benefit from their betting. But indeed things like this are very difficult for us to detect it because in cases like this the game is very neat. Because of that I am one of the people who rarely do sports gambling.

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And that is why we will never know about insider betting news. Everything can be found if someone is caught in a secret operation by officers looking for insider bets and cleaning up everything from the frauds they are doing. But it will all depend on how secret the operation info is so that no one will leak it. It's like an insider looking for faults where the people know each other and have worked together for several years. And knowing that or tracking it has never been easier.
As long as the insider relationship is good, I don't think anyone will leak the information.
Actually, insider bets will only be known between one dealer and another, only 2 people or three people, and as long as the dealer is fair in distributing the results of the money, of course they always work well together without divulging any information.
Because if one leaks insider betting information, of course he will also reveal all information related to one another that has deceived many people.

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