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May 11, 2023, 11:19:56 PM
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Consider? I did, there are so many beautiful landscapes in the world so I did consider moving to a place that is cheap and can be on the beach and just I can work all day and swim on great beaches and have amazing life, who wouldn't want to live in one of those bora bora type of beach places? That would be lovely obviously. But to be fair that would get old very quickly, you could live maybe 6 months there if you are not from there and that's it, then it would become as normal to you as it is to them. However, leaving your own nation to go somewhere else, in fact even leaving your own city to go live somewhere else is a huge decision that can't be taken lightly. I understand those who do, but I personally wouldn't be able to do it. There is so much of my nation in me, even if I left, I would carry that somewhere else, no need for that.

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May 23, 2023, 11:16:19 PM
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This is really unfortunate and I feel bad for those whom live in a country where it's just so hard to get a decent paying job no matter how smart one is or how much education they have under their belt.  The thing that's really disgusting though is when people are desperate to leave a country for a better life, there's always going to be people to take advantage, like you mention with people being killed.  This is of course how a lot of sex trafficking happens.  So sad, so sickening.
Going with those skilled people that have decided to work abroad, they find the opportunities abroad are paying more than we're they are. I have considered going these why many people decided to go into these programs like studying first in that country which is part of the process and then have their jobs hunt eventually.

Also, there are the other perks that they can bring on board their family if they happen to get a good paying job. There's so much more than that which is paying off and can be said as worth it, health care, education and other perks like that too.

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May 23, 2023, 11:17:24 PM
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It is not easy because there are too many barriers if we go abroad to work and live, but if given the opportunity, I will still choose to leave.  because that's the only way we have a chance to change our lives and the futures of our children for the better. leaving the homeland and leaving loved ones is something no one wants, but because of life, we have no other choice. i will still choose to settle abroad if given the choice and opportunity, but in the future, if my finances are stable, I will also return to my hometown.

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May 24, 2023, 02:02:44 AM
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Going or moving to another country is of course a very pleasant thing, I have plans to move to a developed country like the USA or Europe, I am currently around 25 years old and I will look for detailed information, and I have friends who work in the USA and are still actively communicating there, I'm sure one day I can go and work in the USA and of course in the long term I can become a citizen of the USA or other developed countries.

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May 24, 2023, 04:23:37 AM
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It is not easy because there are too many barriers if we go abroad to work and live, but if given the opportunity, I will still choose to leave.  because that's the only way we have a chance to change our lives and the futures of our children for the better. leaving the homeland and leaving loved ones is something no one wants, but because of life, we have no other choice. i will still choose to settle abroad if given the choice and opportunity, but in the future, if my finances are stable, I will also return to my hometown.
Sure as eggs is eggs, migrating's like taking a roller coaster ride – it's got its ups and downs. On one hand, you're looking at a nice bump in the old paycheck and a chance to up the ante in the living standards department. However, let's not forget the speed bumps on this road to paradise. New digs, fancy foreign customs, and a sizeable case of homesickness... it's like going off the high dive for the first time. Sure, the water's just dandy, but that initial cannonball is like a bucket of ice water to the face!

Now, when it comes to future plans, if you hold true to the notion that "home is where the heart is," well then, my friend, zipping back to your roots once you've filled your piggy bank sounds peachy keen! But here's the kicker, as absurd as it sounds, you'll be like a tourist on a sightseeing tour of your own backyard!

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May 24, 2023, 05:24:47 AM
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Going or moving to another country is of course a very pleasant thing, I have plans to move to a developed country like the USA or Europe, I am currently around 25 years old and I will look for detailed information, and I have friends who work in the USA and are still actively communicating there, I'm sure one day I can go and work in the USA and of course in the long term I can become a citizen of the USA or other developed countries.

Everything has its price, no place is perfect. If you want to earn a lot of money and have a rich life, then settling in the US or developed countries is the right decision for you. But you will also encounter difficulties such as culture, language, lifestyle, and even the stigma of the people there. Not to mention the constant bombings, shootings, and demonstrations... in the US will make you less safe than in your own homeland.

As me, a married person, I accept to stay in my hometown, although it will be more difficult, I will be at peace and be able to live with my loved ones. And with the development of today's technology, there are many job opportunities through the Internet, as long as you study hard with the right knowledge, you can easily get a high-paying job without needing to work abroad.

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May 24, 2023, 05:55:08 AM
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If it's time to move for reasons that are inevitable, then you have to. For the choice of work respectively, if you like part of the government, please. what is certain is that if we are good at managing time, let alone we already have a digital nomad mentality. I'm sure wherever you do digital currency trading activities, as long as internet facilities are available there, you can add passive income for your family.

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May 24, 2023, 07:00:12 AM
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I once discussed with my partner about moving abroad, but he disagreed with that and said he didn't want to be away from his parents, especially now that my mother-in-law only lives alone.
based on the conclusions of my post, actually, I really wanted to move to other countries and change the fate of my family, but after being tied to marriage, it was impossible.

If you want to move domicile or abroad, the first year we face is adaptation to the environment and there must be a network first, such as having acquaintances or relatives, because living abroad must have skill and recklessness The point is that at first we were tested by what is called employment. If we can survive the first year, then we will succeed in living abroad or overseas.

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May 24, 2023, 08:48:07 AM
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Going or moving to another country is of course a very pleasant thing, I have plans to move to a developed country like the USA or Europe, I am currently around 25 years old and I will look for detailed information, and I have friends who work in the USA and are still actively communicating there, I'm sure one day I can go and work in the USA and of course in the long term I can become a citizen of the USA or other developed countries.

Everything has its price, no place is perfect. If you want to earn a lot of money and have a rich life, then settling in the US or developed countries is the right decision for you. But you will also encounter difficulties such as culture, language, lifestyle, and even the stigma of the people there. Not to mention the constant bombings, shootings, and demonstrations... in the US will make you less safe than in your own homeland.

As me, a married person, I accept to stay in my hometown, although it will be more difficult, I will be at peace and be able to live with my loved ones. And with the development of today's technology, there are many job opportunities through the Internet, as long as you study hard with the right knowledge, you can easily get a high-paying job without needing to work abroad.
the path of life that we will take is a choice, so that each person's perspective will be different, and what makes one goal is happiness, that is where the level of happiness for each person is different. it's the same with me maybe living in my hometown is happier, because we don't want to carry out different customs in other countries, and in terms of materials, of course as long as we try we will definitely be able to fulfill the needs of life according to each other's lifestyle, especially those of us in communities where don't miss technology

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May 24, 2023, 09:15:10 AM
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Going or moving to another country is of course a very pleasant thing, I have plans to move to a developed country like the USA or Europe, I am currently around 25 years old and I will look for detailed information, and I have friends who work in the USA and are still actively communicating there, I'm sure one day I can go and work in the USA and of course in the long term I can become a citizen of the USA or other developed countries.
Maybe it will be very fun if you succeed in realizing your goal. In developed countries I heard that our jobs there are also paid a decent salary. And my relatives also work abroad in one of the developed countries but not the USA. and now he can help the economy of his family who are in their home country today. But I heard that life there is not as beautiful as he imagined. because the big salary is of course also accompanied by the price of needs which are also expensive. but I hope you succeed in achieving your goal. and don't forget if you have achieved that goal to share your story here. Wink

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May 24, 2023, 01:11:42 PM
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I once discussed with my partner about moving abroad, but he disagreed with that and said he didn't want to be away from his parents, especially now that my mother-in-law only lives alone.
based on the conclusions of my post, actually, I really wanted to move to other countries and change the fate of my family, but after being tied to marriage, it was impossible.

It sounds like you have conflicting desires regarding moving abroad and your partner's attachment to their parents. It can be challenging when two individuals have different perspectives and priorities. It's important to communicate openly and honestly with your partner about your aspirations and concerns.
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May 24, 2023, 01:39:58 PM
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If it's time to move for reasons that are inevitable, then you have to.
For me, it's like the last resort that I've got but as long as things are still fine where I am right now, I haven't thought of moving in other countries.

I'd love to travel and have a vacation but moving permanently, no.

For the choice of work respectively, if you like part of the government, please. what is certain is that if we are good at managing time, let alone we already have a digital nomad mentality. I'm sure wherever you do digital currency trading activities, as long as internet facilities are available there, you can add passive income for your family.
Honestly, that's the choice of my friends. They'll work abroad and at the same time, they'll work remotely for the jobs that they've got right now. There's still work-life balance on that term but I guess it will take time to adjust.

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May 24, 2023, 03:11:30 PM
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It is not easy because there are too many barriers if we go abroad to work and live, but if given the opportunity, I will still choose to leave.  because that's the only way we have a chance to change our lives and the futures of our children for the better. leaving the homeland and leaving loved ones is something no one wants, but because of life, we have no other choice. i will still choose to settle abroad if given the choice and opportunity, but in the future, if my finances are stable, I will also return to my hometown.
Sure as eggs is eggs, migrating's like taking a roller coaster ride – it's got its ups and downs. On one hand, you're looking at a nice bump in the old paycheck and a chance to up the ante in the living standards department. However, let's not forget the speed bumps on this road to paradise. New digs, fancy foreign customs, and a sizeable case of homesickness... it's like going off the high dive for the first time. Sure, the water's just dandy, but that initial cannonball is like a bucket of ice water to the face!

Now, when it comes to future plans, if you hold true to the notion that "home is where the heart is," well then, my friend, zipping back to your roots once you've filled your piggy bank sounds peachy keen! But here's the kicker, as absurd as it sounds, you'll be like a tourist on a sightseeing tour of your own backyard!

Just as success takes many sacrifices and trade-offs, there is no such thing as success without trade-offs.  migrating abroad will certainly be an extremely arduous journey, but in return, we will have a better future, and our children will live more fully, so it is worth the effort and trade-off.
in the beginning, everything is always difficult, but if we can accept and adapt quickly, nothing can make it difficult for us.  the most important is still ourselves, the ability to endure as well as the ability to adapt to everything.

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May 24, 2023, 03:23:25 PM
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I once discussed with my partner about moving abroad, but he disagreed with that and said he didn't want to be away from his parents, especially now that my mother-in-law only lives alone.
based on the conclusions of my post, actually, I really wanted to move to other countries and change the fate of my family, but after being tied to marriage, it was impossible.

It sounds like you have conflicting desires regarding moving abroad and your partner's attachment to their parents. It can be challenging when two individuals have different perspectives and priorities. It's important to communicate openly and honestly with your partner about your aspirations and concerns.

Everything will be solved through communication, but the problem right now is that her parents are only living alone. If they talk about it with his partner and mother-in-law it can be solved since we don't know if his mother-in-law wants it. That is really a problem if you already have a family because both of you need to have your own space. You are now having a family, and there are things that need to be sacrificed.
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I once discussed with my partner about moving abroad, but he disagreed with that and said he didn't want to be away from his parents, especially now that my mother-in-law only lives alone.
based on the conclusions of my post, actually, I really wanted to move to other countries and change the fate of my family, but after being tied to marriage, it was impossible.

It sounds like you have conflicting desires regarding moving abroad and your partner's attachment to their parents. It can be challenging when two individuals have different perspectives and priorities. It's important to communicate openly and honestly with your partner about your aspirations and concerns.

Everything will be solved through communication, but the problem right now is that her parents are only living alone. If they talk about it with his partner and mother-in-law it can be solved since we don't know if his mother-in-law wants it. That is really a problem if you already have a family because both of you need to have your own space. You are now having a family, and there are things that need to be sacrificed.

It's not only the attachment to their parents, maybe your partner are worried about them of course we're not sure about their age if there's someone to look for her parents in case of emergency since she's at abroad. Living abroad is not that easy to say like "let's move to other country" there's a lot of sacrifices to take like the cultures and ethics. But we all agree that there's more opportunity abroad than to our country which is applicable to my country. And I could say it's more convenient and like a dream life.

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I can understand the psychology of looking for job opportunities and the working environment of many people, it is not only the scope of going abroad, but even the country itself, the job movement from rural to urban areas as well. is the same problem. I'm not sure many people have experienced the feeling of being away from home in order to go to school and find opportunities for a future in life, but for me it's been a journey to realize I'm losing my restrained freedom. by the domination in issues of life such as economy, social relationships, or reputation,... are all great lessons to change and help me grow up. Sometimes we don't need to change too much, but simply looking back at the things we have done has really helped in life, getting rid of material poverty, being constrained by various social issues, the environment. Like any workplace, the real comfort is our own control.

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Everyone has a different way of believing they will be successful the way they are. You are right that going abroad can also increase your income but it cannot be said that you will be successful abroad. There are people who are successful in their own country and all have their own path to reach their dreams.

Yes exactly that not everyone is successful in abroad and there a person not always happy so interest also play a vital role  in one's success. Sometimes people went to abroad but they don't get any job so instead of earning money they lost huge sum of money.

I think if a person has job in his own country then there is no need of going abroad because in own county there is a prosperous life with family which a man cannot spend abroad.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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This is why I like jobs that doesn't require your presence, jobs like Coding and building apps for people doesn't require you to move out of your country to another, this is why I love technology and the blockchain.

Few projects have their team scattered around the world, they only face time when it's needed, the teams all work at home and do whatever they want, upload server, get a website running, etc

If I have to leave my country, it will never be because of job, it will be holiday, changing of environment for a while and relax for some months and move back to my country.

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This is why I like jobs that doesn't require your presence, jobs like Coding and building apps for people doesn't require you to move out of your country to another, this is why I love technology and the blockchain.

Few projects have their team scattered around the world, they only face time when it's needed, the teams all work at home and do whatever they want, upload server, get a website running, etc

If I have to leave my country, it will never be because of job, it will be holiday, changing of environment for a while and relax for some months and move back to my country.
More than 10 years ago, as a young teenager, I was advised from someone who was already a programmer working remotely to learn a language such as Python, C++, Java etc. I was too young to understand back then and brushed it off. I'm not sure if I regret it or not, but honestly I'd prefer it if I had some basic knowledge. Generally, I've tried coding but didn't like it at all, and unfortunately for me, there's a great demand in coders.
Yes exactly that not everyone is successful in abroad and there a person not always happy so interest also play a vital role  in one's success. Sometimes people went to abroad but they don't get any job so instead of earning money they lost huge sum of money.

I think if a person has job in his own country then there is no need of going abroad because in own county there is a prosperous life with family which a man cannot spend abroad.
Success is a very general term. I know a few acquaintances of mine who moved abroad and had two or more roommates in order to get by. Personally, this is something that I wouldn't want as an individual. It's certainly not a panacea solution.
If it's time to move for reasons that are inevitable, then you have to.
For me, it's like the last resort that I've got but as long as things are still fine where I am right now, I haven't thought of moving in other countries.

I'd love to travel and have a vacation but moving permanently, no.
Definitely,  it's also my last resort. I will attempt everything else before making such an important decision, with the best option being remote work.

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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place.

I'm really in a dilemma about what would be best for me. I'll be out in the job market in a few months after I finish with my mandatory military enlistment, and I'm unsure of what challenges and opportunities I'm going to face. I don't want to spend my life living from paycheck to paycheck. It's a good thing that I also have Bitcoin; otherwise, I'd be doomed. There's still something to believe in.

So far, in my opinion, the best option for work seems to be online, especially if it has flexible hours and a working schedule. You can work from wherever and whenever you want, provided you get the job done. Digital nomads have been increasing over the past few years, and it seems like a perfect opportunity that provides work-life balance. I believe that it's something that would suit my personal needs. I want to travel and explore as many destinations as possible, so working a regular 9-5 job with 20 vacation days per year isn't going to cut it.

So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?

You should try visiting a few places first before deciding which country is best for you. You'd be surprised how in places like Portugal, 9 out of 10 people speak fairly fluent English and you can get by with the others quite happily as you learn the local language. Just like the UK and USA however, these people want people with qualifications and skills - they have enough of their own population doing low key jobs that make fairly low incomes. If you try lots of different destinations you can see which closely match what you're looking for in life, maybe you prefer a colder climate and might be better suited to Sweden. Alternatively Germany has quite a structured society in comparison to looser Mediterranean countries.

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