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May 31, 2023, 04:38:58 PM
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I totally get where you're coming from. Moving abroad is a big decision, and it's important to consider factors like personal happiness and freedom alongside financial opportunities. It sounds like you're focused on starting your own business in your country, which is awesome!

Being in another man's land is not a joke because we all have different norms, and it will definitely affect the person's life. It will take some time before the person starts adapting. and the decision has to come with preparedness in mind and with resources so it's usually difficult if you want to make such a decision, but sometimes it favors. In my area, where the system is failing and life is getting harder, one will undoubtedly be pushed to make such a decision, if not for a better life, then at least to get one. Life isn't easy anywhere, so I don't blame anyone who leaves for doing so, all is for a better life.

Sometimes when moving abroad life gets better because it can be easier to get a job and the adaptation goes well,
of course we need to prepare a lot of things and it requires sacrifice too,
what is clear wherever you are continue to try and do your best.

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May 31, 2023, 07:21:56 PM
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Sometimes when moving abroad life gets better because it can be easier to get a job and the adaptation goes well,
of course we need to prepare a lot of things and it requires sacrifice too,
what is clear wherever you are continue to try and do your best.
There is no easy guarantee of getting a job abroad except for housework or factory labor, for other jobs you must have the expertise and work as the main capital to get other jobs in other people's countries. If we wander without relatives, we have no place to gamble and alone will drive you crazy. so it is better to get jobs in our country and we have chance to improve skills for new job opportunities.

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May 31, 2023, 07:53:50 PM
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Being able to go to a developed country is what I really want, right now I'm still in school and finishing my final year, there are some friends who plan to work in other countries such as in Germany, France, Canada and so on, of course they also plan to move to these countries by line of work or marriage.
Well indeed there are many people who have the same desire as you and your friends. But doesn't that mean you are ready to live away from your family? Developed countries do have a higher level of eligibility pay than working in a level 3 country which always has a lower level of pay. In developed countries our insights and work may be more properly appreciated. but deciding to go and settle abroad may not be as easy as imagined. but I hope you and your friends are lucky and can make your dreams come true.

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May 31, 2023, 08:22:35 PM
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There is no easy guarantee of getting a job abroad except for housework or factory labor, for other jobs you must have the expertise and work as the main capital to get other jobs in other people's countries. If we wander without relatives, we have no place to gamble and alone will drive you crazy. so it is better to get jobs in our country and we have chance to improve skills for new job opportunities.

I think developed countries still have problems with the shortage of workers, so I don't expect any legal immigrant would have a problem with finding employment. But yes, it would likely be a type of job that is not desirable to locals. But then again, if you're ambitious, you don't have to stop there, you could keep improving your skills/qualifications and move up the ladder.

But you're right, for most it's better to stay in their own countries (unless they're completely unliveable), live among family and friends and grow their careers there, which in turn helps their homelands to develop and hopefully, one day, catch up with with the West.

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July 22, 2023, 11:51:50 AM
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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place.

I'm really in a dilemma about what would be best for me. I'll be out in the job market in a few months after I finish with my mandatory military enlistment, and I'm unsure of what challenges and opportunities I'm going to face. I don't want to spend my life living from paycheck to paycheck. It's a good thing that I also have Bitcoin; otherwise, I'd be doomed. There's still something to believe in.

So far, in my opinion, the best option for work seems to be online, especially if it has flexible hours and a working schedule. You can work from wherever and whenever you want, provided you get the job done. Digital nomads have been increasing over the past few years, and it seems like a perfect opportunity that provides work-life balance. I believe that it's something that would suit my personal needs. I want to travel and explore as many destinations as possible, so working a regular 9-5 job with 20 vacation days per year isn't going to cut it.

So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?

That is true that moving abroad is not that easy because you need to take in consideration a lot of things such as learning a new language, cultural differences, difficulty to adjust in environment, financial challenges, acquiring visa, renting a property or owning one. I agree that working online could be one of the best option because of the flexible hours and working schedule. But if i will be given an opportunity I would try to move abroad to be able to explore different country and the job opportunities that they could offer. Staying here in our motherland is a bit hard because of the rising prices of foods and other services while the salary is not increasing.

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July 23, 2023, 06:16:32 PM
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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place.

I'm really in a dilemma about what would be best for me. I'll be out in the job market in a few months after I finish with my mandatory military enlistment, and I'm unsure of what challenges and opportunities I'm going to face. I don't want to spend my life living from paycheck to paycheck. It's a good thing that I also have Bitcoin; otherwise, I'd be doomed. There's still something to believe in.

So far, in my opinion, the best option for work seems to be online, especially if it has flexible hours and a working schedule. You can work from wherever and whenever you want, provided you get the job done. Digital nomads have been increasing over the past few years, and it seems like a perfect opportunity that provides work-life balance. I believe that it's something that would suit my personal needs. I want to travel and explore as many destinations as possible, so working a regular 9-5 job with 20 vacation days per year isn't going to cut it.

So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?

It seems like moving abroad is a luxury that only works in certain contexts, like if you're young and live in Europe you have the freedom of 26 other countries that you can reside in easily. The older you get, if you are not wealthy at least, it becomes harder to move to another country. Not only are there the entry requirements but there is also a learning curve involved with a countries customs and legal responsibilities that becomes harder to adapt to with age. Nothing is impossible but it's better to try these things when you're younger.

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So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?
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So as long as I can still do business in my country, I will continue to try without having to move abroad. because I believe that no matter how difficult our situation is, when we want to try, the opportunity will surely come.
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Being in another man's land is not a joke because we all have different norms, and it will definitely affect the person's life. It will take some time before the person starts adapting. and the decision has to come with preparedness in mind and with resources so it's usually difficult if you want to make such a decision, but sometimes it favors. In my area, where the system is failing and life is getting harder, one will undoubtedly be pushed to make such a decision, if not for a better life, then at least to get one. Life isn't easy anywhere, so I don't blame anyone who leaves for doing so, all is for a better life.

If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

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July 23, 2023, 07:12:51 PM
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Being in another man's land is not a joke because we all have different norms, and it will definitely affect the person's life. It will take some time before the person starts adapting. and the decision has to come with preparedness in mind and with resources so it's usually difficult if you want to make such a decision, but sometimes it favors. In my area, where the system is failing and life is getting harder, one will undoubtedly be pushed to make such a decision, if not for a better life, then at least to get one. Life isn't easy anywhere, so I don't blame anyone who leaves for doing so, all is for a better life.

If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

That's true, we don't need to go to other countries if our country is rich in jobs, has good wages and good benefits for its constituents. One of the problems in countries with many overseas workers is the lack of them. Even though I was in a country with a low salary, I still didn't let go and until now I'm still here, all it takes is hard work and determination to get out. Even if we want to work in another country, there's no problem as long as we always remember that when we get out of poverty, we can't forget where we came from.

In your situation, you can work in another country so that somehow our lives can improve, but if you can still afford it and have some savings there, it is better to just stay. We have our own dreams, but it's better to live in our own country with our loved ones.

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Being in another man's land is not a joke because we all have different norms, and it will definitely affect the person's life. It will take some time before the person starts adapting. and the decision has to come with preparedness in mind and with resources so it's usually difficult if you want to make such a decision, but sometimes it favors. In my area, where the system is failing and life is getting harder, one will undoubtedly be pushed to make such a decision, if not for a better life, then at least to get one. Life isn't easy anywhere, so I don't blame anyone who leaves for doing so, all is for a better life.

If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

Sorry mate but I don't disagree with the part where third world countries are not organized because I'm also living in a country in Asia that is also labeled as a part of the third-world countries. Yes, it may not be the same with the modern and advanced countries in Europe and in North America but third world countries have their own advantage and disadvantages too, just like any other country. It will all depend on your situation and what field you are in because not all answers can be found abroad as living in another country will definitely be a struggle no matter how decent and modern that country is.

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July 23, 2023, 07:33:10 PM
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Being in another man's land is not a joke because we all have different norms, and it will definitely affect the person's life. It will take some time before the person starts adapting. and the decision has to come with preparedness in mind and with resources so it's usually difficult if you want to make such a decision, but sometimes it favors. In my area, where the system is failing and life is getting harder, one will undoubtedly be pushed to make such a decision, if not for a better life, then at least to get one. Life isn't easy anywhere, so I don't blame anyone who leaves for doing so, all is for a better life.

If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

Sorry mate but I don't disagree with the part where third world countries are not organized because I'm also living in a country in Asia that is also labeled as a part of the third-world countries. Yes, it may not be the same with the modern and advanced countries in Europe and in North America but third world countries have their own advantage and disadvantages too, just like any other country. It will all depend on your situation and what field you are in because not all answers can be found abroad as living in another country will definitely be a struggle no matter how decent and modern that country is.
You are right on which even they are on 3rd world but still there is really that still advantage and it is really just depending on a certain individual on how he would be handling out themselves on finding their jobs

before making out that kind of options on going abroad just because you are really that aiming for higher income which i couldn't blame them on.Even myself would really be having that kind of option
if i do see chances because we cant really deny that in speaking about income and possible earning then it would really be enough or more than on what we do really need on which we could be able to
give out a good life with our loved ones in speaking about sustaining and giving the life that they do want. If you do see that the local jobs that you do have isnt something that could give out sufficient
in terms of living then you would be having no choice.

I would definitely be having that kind of option if ever i would really be given the chance but of course there would be still several considerations before on doing so.
I cant just bare out on leaving my family but if there's no choice then i would do it.

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If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

It is usually the third world countries that will consider leaving there country for a more developed countries like those in Europe because they lack technological developments and infrastructure to make life conducive for living. This does not include India etc. The people in technologically developed countries can travel to the less developed countries for special skill jobs, therefore they travel as expatriate and are well paid and talking care of with specified job description
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So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?

I am very glad that we live in a time when everyone can find a job on the Internet, which means not being tied to one place geographically. And work from anywhere in the world. Once upon a time I was a programmer and worked for Upwork, also officially working in a small company. I went to it every day, renting an expensive apartment in the capital. It was unpleasant for me to live there, and imagine my surprise at the moment when I came to quit, and the boss said to me: why don't you want to work from your hometown? He was silent about it all the time! And I still refused, because then I was already engaged in cryptocurrencies. Now I understand that I did the right thing, but if I hadn't found cryptocurrencies, I could work remotely, and I would feel comfortable living at home, and not in a rented apartment.
Nevertheless, it was a good opportunity to work, while having the opportunity to go abroad. And in parallel, it is better to look for a place there.

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It is usually the third world countries that will consider leaving there country for a more developed countries like those in Europe because they lack technological developments and infrastructure to make life conducive for living. This does not include India etc. The people in technologically developed countries can travel to the less developed countries for special skill jobs, therefore they travel as expatriate and are well paid and talking care of with specified job description
It’s apparently the case, like how could it not be. I don’t blame those who seek for greener pastures in a foreign country. It doesn’t necessarily mean you would be going to the more advanced nations with lots of tech advancements but, in a nation where things works. You know, there are places and even some states within your individual nation where whatever engagement you get involved with seems to work.

I don’t have anything against moving abroad but, I feel you would enjoy your nation better and every nation has got their individual problems and you would only find out when you’re there. Hope you’ll be able to cope though.

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If I lived abroad, I would like to be in the USA. Apart from that, I'm happy to be in my country. The living standards are not high, the economy of the country is in a very bad condition and since the government has been running the country for a long time, they are becoming more and more authoritarian, but I cannot give up here because I'm in a very livable place in terms of geography and environment. I wouldn't leave my country and go to other countries in Europe, for example. There are a lot of Turks who immigrated to Europe and Canada lately, but I don't have such a plan.

Considering your situation, if you are not really satisfied with your position and there is a job opportunity, you may consider living in another country. However, it's necessary to plan everything very well. Is the culture and structure of the place suitable for you, will you be able to live your life without financial difficulties, you need to calculate them correctly.
We live only once, the experience of living in another country for at least part of your life sounds interesting.

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July 23, 2023, 11:51:55 PM
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Moving from your country of origin is highly advisable, even if you can make it for a couple of years and even better if you travel and work in at least 3 different places. It gives you a broader view of the world and there is always something to learn even if you go to a country that may be less developed or more "difficult" is always a growing experience.

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July 23, 2023, 11:55:28 PM
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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place.

I'm really in a dilemma about what would be best for me. I'll be out in the job market in a few months after I finish with my mandatory military enlistment, and I'm unsure of what challenges and opportunities I'm going to face. I don't want to spend my life living from paycheck to paycheck. It's a good thing that I also have Bitcoin; otherwise, I'd be doomed. There's still something to believe in.

So far, in my opinion, the best option for work seems to be online, especially if it has flexible hours and a working schedule. You can work from wherever and whenever you want, provided you get the job done. Digital nomads have been increasing over the past few years, and it seems like a perfect opportunity that provides work-life balance. I believe that it's something that would suit my personal needs. I want to travel and explore as many destinations as possible, so working a regular 9-5 job with 20 vacation days per year isn't going to cut it.

So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?
moving abroad actually requires a lot of consideration, starting from new adaptations, language barriers, capital to live abroad and so on.
actually i have a desire to go and settle temporarily in several countries but i don't want to move but i want to have a business that has branches in various countries.
if you are still not married, of course it might be easier to travel and try new things and try our luck abroad. but when you are married and have children it will not be easy.
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July 23, 2023, 11:59:18 PM
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The job market has become extremely competitive in the past few years, while the increasing cost of living and low wages are forcing people to move abroad for a chance at a better future. Personally, I believe the economic conditions in Greece have been deteriorating; groceries, rent, and fuel have skyrocketed while the available income keeps shrinking. People with degrees are struggling to find jobs in their field that pay above the minimum wage and offer benefits such as paid vacation and humane working conditions.

Moving abroad isn't an easy decision; there are several factors to take into account, with the most important one being the language barrier. I only speak English; moving anywhere apart from the USA and UK would be a huge challenge because I'd have to learn a new language from scratch. Moreover, you'd have to take into account the increasing living costs of Germany compared to Greece, which means that you must have saved enough money until you manage to get settled in one place.

I'm really in a dilemma about what would be best for me. I'll be out in the job market in a few months after I finish with my mandatory military enlistment, and I'm unsure of what challenges and opportunities I'm going to face. I don't want to spend my life living from paycheck to paycheck. It's a good thing that I also have Bitcoin; otherwise, I'd be doomed. There's still something to believe in.

So far, in my opinion, the best option for work seems to be online, especially if it has flexible hours and a working schedule. You can work from wherever and whenever you want, provided you get the job done. Digital nomads have been increasing over the past few years, and it seems like a perfect opportunity that provides work-life balance. I believe that it's something that would suit my personal needs. I want to travel and explore as many destinations as possible, so working a regular 9-5 job with 20 vacation days per year isn't going to cut it.

So yes, would you consider moving abroad for a better future? Would you try to find a way to stay in your country, either through online work or by accessing all possible opportunities?

Here in my country, the answer is obviously yes, there are a lot of things that need to be considered that moving abroad is just a great option here, and most of my batchmates are already abroad because it was just better there compared to here. The number one reason is just the salary there is better, I can't believe that a college graduate student or fresh graduate will get a below minimum salary. And it's really difficult to land your first job here in my country as most companies want to hire someone that already has years of experience but in a beginner role with low salary. Also, the work here is just really off since you are almost like a slave to the company you're working a lot of hours nonstop, also there are things like doing a lot of work that is not even your job if they know that you know that kind of work, sometimes you're gonna get promoted so you're going to get more work but your salary is still the same what a joke.

Still, I believed I see a lot of people become successful here in my country but I guess our country was just in a hard mode compared to other countries, right after my experiences I realize that you could still be successful if you know how things work and have the right mindset, for now, I just focus on getting more sources of income in order to be successful, and right now I still able to land on a great job that doesnt have a hectic schedule while still doing what I love.

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July 24, 2023, 01:22:03 AM
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Moving from your country of origin is highly advisable, even if you can make it for a couple of years and even better if you travel and work in at least 3 different places. It gives you a broader view of the world and there is always something to learn even if you go to a country that may be less developed or more "difficult" is always a growing experience.

This is very ideal. However, if we're being realistic here, it'll be hard for at least half of us to even go to more than 2 countries. Inflation is currently making our life harder and financial stability isn't as easy to reach as it used to be. I do agree that experiencing different cultures opens our eyes to a lot of things and lets us learn various ways of living but sadly only a few of us can truly experience such a thing.

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If you live in developed country like USA then moving to new country will defiantly not an easy thing. But if you are from a third world country where things are not organised then moving to some developed country wont be a difficult thing. I am from Pakistan and things are getting worsen here for last 18 months, due to this reason there is massive outflow of man power to other countries. People are migrating not for fun but to earn more or to have a better future.

It is usually the third world countries that will consider leaving there country for a more developed countries like those in Europe because they lack technological developments and infrastructure to make life conducive for living. This does not include India etc. The people in technologically developed countries can travel to the less developed countries for special skill jobs, therefore they travel as expatriate and are well paid and talking care of with specified job description
Those who live in a country that is experiencing a prolonged economic crisis and have many conflicts within the country will certainly not feel comfortable living in such a country. And definitely has a dream to leave his country soon and start a new life in a more developed country. But to leave the country sometimes requires a lot of hard work and need to collect a lot of money to travel. And this is usually the main obstacle. There are even some countries that do not allow their citizens to move to another country. Well, there are many constraints that vary in each country. And in essence moving countries is not easy.

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