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May 12, 2023, 10:17:50 PM
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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
This is something that even in schools it is mostly frowned at, taking credit because for someone’s else work is just not good. Outside the forum it’s self once a thing is copy then it is better to reference the original. In the forum link is just like that reference

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.
Just like other members say it is rare to see one been banned for posting an image gotten from a random link online and portraying it as us. Although why I think the rules is like that is because most of these images are watermarked. And watermark is just the same thing as putting reference on it.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
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AI generated posts are yet to be sanctioned as far as I know, but I feel like those that do it are easily caught with plagiarized posts. Even if the moderators do not ban AI posts, a member that persists will definitely be tagged by members which make it clear to other members the kind of threads or comments such user posts

General advice post a link to everything that is not yours this will save you from unnecessary confusion. Focus on creating your own contents because even those that post with references always without putting up their idea are regarded as spammers

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May 12, 2023, 11:20:17 PM
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Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism

I can't fine anywhere in the forum rules either official or unofficial rules of the forum where they state that the use of AI is prohibited.. it's just highly discouraged by the forum members just as buying of account and other activities which users ordinarily should not wait for anyone to tell them that this kind of action is not going to help the forum in anyway and as such that user should disengage from them.

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May 12, 2023, 11:35:19 PM
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Using Ai is definitely prohibited. If you ever come across a post you have no idea on, just do some research and  write what you know, or rather just leave the post, it isn't compulsory that you must reply to every post.
 
You can check out this topic made by @tbct_mt2 tips to avoid plagarism

I can't fine anywhere in the forum rules either official or unofficial rules of the forum where they state that the use of AI is prohibited.. it's just highly discouraged by the forum members just as buying of account and other activities which users ordinarily should not wait for anyone to tell them that this kind of action is not going to help the forum in anyway and as such that user should disengage from them.

No rules applied yet but if you know your taking advantage on situation which is not fair to everyone then its same as cheating. Using AI doesn't make all of those things organic that's why this is been discourage well by many people so much better do all your task fairly so that you will be out of risk to get a problem with other users.

Its really healthy for forum to have organic discussions rather than AI generated contents where this is totally not good sight to see.

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May 12, 2023, 11:41:07 PM
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Including all sources in text or images is fine, it can be proof that you got the information from the internet.
what's not really allowed is creating posts with AI or responding to questions with AI. it is strictly prohibited at this time. although it is not detected as plagiarism, but it is the result of AI bots. This forum is not made for bots but for humans to interact with each other.

Imagine if this forum was taken over by AI-generated replies. This will definitely remove the interaction between persons as AIs would be the one discussing among themselves about a certain topic.

As regards with plagiarism, I do recommend that if you are going to post any picture that is taken online, add the reference below for safety and security. In addition, if you are also going to use words taken from the internet, I suggest putting the text in a
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code -format for easier reference and visual impact on the reader.


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May 13, 2023, 02:25:19 AM
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[GUIDE] Plagiarism and how to avoid it.
[TIPS] to avoid plagiarism
Plagiarism as a result of cultural differences
Plagiarsism QA topics. I don't think new topics about plagiarism are necessary
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May 13, 2023, 06:30:32 AM
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It's okay to share some articles but always provide the source where you've found it and just do some snippet of it or only the important parts. As for the usage of AI, it's not really encouraged to use it when we're interacting with each other genuinely. Well, the offense of it will depend on the mods take if they've seen you copied and verified it that you've used AI on your posts.

I think it is always better to share a content of an article in providing proof and support to the topic being discussed than just mere personal idea which often got some errors.  Obviously we need to provide links to those articles to avoid plagiarism to avoid breaking the rules of the forum.
Yes, that's ethical and it's a courtesy and paying respect to the owner of those snippets that you'll get or an article that you want to share in the forum.
And if someone forgets to do that, they'll be judged and gets a ban from the forum mods and there's no excuse with that because even before, it's been said a bannable offense and everyone have to remember that rule of law as it's an official one. Newbies that are exploring the forum should also get to know that and read first the rules that's set for everyone so that they'll be guided. Plus, all of those links and guides shared on this thread concerning the topic are already here for OPs guidance.

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May 13, 2023, 06:51:47 AM
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Based on my experience, what I see is this: if you see that a post is written using AI and then submit it to the moderators for review, and they agree with you by deleting this post, the user will receive a temporary ban. You must be sure that the post was written by AI. You can compare the recent actions of the user with an unexpected change in posting, i.e., suddenly the account began to write competent and large posts. In this case, there may be a temporary ban.
In all other cases, feel free to send reports to the moderators; they will draw their own conclusions and make further decisions.

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May 13, 2023, 07:41:10 AM
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I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
You don't have to paste it 100% into your post.
You can take ideas from sources you meet into posts. Simply indicate that the information you get comes from the source you meet.
Plagiarism is something that is forbidden to do and is a serious violation.
If we are still normal and still able to think, then we can still make posts without having to copy and paste someone else's.

When it comes to AI posts, our ideas are more creative than machines. Only people who are lazy in thinking do not find ideas to do.
There are so many ideas that will be born if we get used to using the strengths that are in us because humans are given a mind to think and that is what distinguishes us from other creatures.

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I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

If the content you copied carries the same image and you provided the content link at the bottom of the post, there is no way you will get ban for image because they are from same content. Sometimes you may decides to include the quote symbol then apply your image inside of it, if the content is originally yours and differents from images then there's no ban. You can only get ban for not doing those things.

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Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
Gracia.

As far as i know, the forum mods and admins are trying their best to make sure they eliminate the rate of AI posting here, it's a spam and may likely results from being ban. Those words are too generic which you may not differentiate between real users and AI posters, it's encouraging for everyone to strive their best in creating quality post than using a contents generated tools.

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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.
I am not an expert here but I will honestly answer to your queries on my experience on this platform.

Yes, if you do plagiarize, you will be banned permanently, and if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.
Code:
[quote]Your text here[/quote]
and do not forget to put the source link. Because if you are copying something then you have to declare that you are quoting it and have to provide a source link too.

You can check the following posts where OPs have copied and pasted whole articles from the website and didn't get struck for plagiarism.
i have personally used this method sometimes and didn't get penalized for plagiarism so i think that's safe.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism
TBH, i have seen many people who have shared pictures from the internet and didn't share the source link with it, but i have observed that most of the members do share the source link to the image, and its the best practice so i think putting a link to the image will not cost you a lot so why not putting it. And it will also help readers to redirect to its source for confirmation, and it will save time too.
Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
AI, is highly banned on this platform there had started many topics and threads on this topic (AI) and many accounts have been banned from the origin of ChatGPT. If you copy from AI content generators and pasted it here it will be considered as plagiarism and you will be banned without any warnings. So, stay away from it, but i think at least you could use it for other purposes like to learn something not to just copy and paste text from there to here to earn trust and respect.

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if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.
Code:
[quote]Your text here[/quote]
and do not forget to put the source link. Because if you are copying something then you have to declare that you are quoting it and have to provide a source link too.

You can add source link and don't have to use code block. A source link is enough.

I think a quote block is better because it can help readers to know what is your own content and what you use from other sources (in quote blocks). There are some ways to use quote block.

If you don't know the source link, you can use a quote block without source link
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if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

If you know the source link, you can use it with the link
if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

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if you want to copy and paste something, like some's statements then i prefer you to use the following syntax and put the statements and anything (text) that you want to paste.

Code:
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[quote author=Faisal2202 link=topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413 date=1683970745]

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[quote author=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413]

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[quote="[url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5452518.msg62237413#msg62237413]Faisal2202[/url]"]

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May 13, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

OP, for those of you who want to last a long time, if you want to share information you get from the internet, then include the source. it will be safer for you.
You must have also read some of the threads shared by others on the forums. how they present information that is their own or share information they get from the internet. you can copy how other members make a decent thread. when you believe that the information is original from you, you don't need to worry about the forum's ban on plagiarism.


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May 13, 2023, 02:55:40 PM
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Not just here in the forum but everywhere, plagiarism is a big issue. So if you want to share some knowledge or ideas that are from others, always share the link. If you're not sure where you got the idea, you can mention it in your post that you saw it from someone or anything similar to that. You can also try looking for it on the Internet first. As long as you don't claim it as your own, then it's fine. But adding a source will make it more reliable so others can also assess the information you'll share.

Using an AI-generated post isn't also great as well since it's not your own and you didn't come up with that idea or opinion. Just look at it, what's the point of replying and posting if everything is AI-generated right?
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May 13, 2023, 03:27:55 PM
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1) If you are using some other authors content then you must mention him to give credit and you can provide source link for that or write it in quote to avoid violating the rules.

2) This has been discussed before also if you search for the thread and I also don't think that if you are using someone else image it doesn't come under plagiarism.There are lot of members including me also using the image from third party sources without providing the link.

3) If you are directly using the same AI generated posts then according to me it's under plagiarism because you have not contributed something to it so what are you showing it to others? So for me it's violation of the rules.

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May 13, 2023, 04:16:15 PM
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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.
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For me, i think A.I generated is plaigarism because like chatgpt i think that a.i site is getting sources each site in google so it's illegal to use chat gpt in this forum and you will get banned by using this. You guys who using ChatGPT and thinking that you're helping, no you're not because thats not your own words and also you're not sincere helping other people so the people who uses a.i site should be ban in this forum !

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May 13, 2023, 04:25:19 PM
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I have read about plagiarism in the forum which is a great offense here and anyone who is caught will get banned from the from. If someone wants to copy and paste here,he must provide a link to that which he has copied from.

I don't know if someone wants to use a picture on the internet without providing a link to that picture, if that user will be banned for his action or I must also provide the link to that picture which I used. Is using someone else picture without providing the link also plagiarism.


First of all you should learn what’s the real definition of plagiarism to easily grasp your confusion. Plagiarism is using someone content in a way that owning it without the source.

Posting a random picture from the internet for the sake of discussion will not gonna plagiarized you unless you are claiming the ownership of it. An image of data on the other should be backed up by source to verify the validity of your content.

Using AI generated post, which I know that is not encouraged in this forum, what will be the penalty for such action,is this the same as plagiarism ?
I need clarification please, so that I can last long here.

It’s not plagiarism since it’s from a tool that collects data on all available information in the internet. ChatGPT just do the lazy job for you to do research. Remember chatGPT is not human and a tool intended to provide info. So copying it’s content is not plagiarism since that it’s purpose.




FYI, is very strict on plagiarism if you are blatantly owning someone content without giving credits. You can use any resources that you want but make sure to provide source.

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May 13, 2023, 05:03:59 PM
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Is very important to acknowledge authors and article writers even in academic world is a serious offense if you failed to give the credit to the original books authors. I think the forum is using it to strengthen the forum usage and recommendations which has help the forum to maintain a healthy rules and regulations especially if you're purpose of joining the forum is quite significant.

But there is something I want to point out here using this medium, almost the banned accounts hardly come back to the forum probably they don't have access to explains what happen or why they should be given another chance despite the email provided, it seem null and void email without solution. We are all humans binds to make mistake let the banned accounts give chance to express what happen.
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May 13, 2023, 05:08:17 PM
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Pro Tip: If you want to paste something here in your thread or post, make sure to add it under the quote and then provide the source of the information just below. That way you will save your arse from getting banned and still provide your meaningful contribution on the forum.

Also, AI-based texts are not allowed on the forum. Do not prefer ChatGPT to make you 500 words post.
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May 13, 2023, 05:41:33 PM
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Imagine if this forum was taken over by AI-generated replies. This will definitely remove the interaction between persons as AIs would be the one discussing among themselves about a certain topic.

It would be the apocalypse for the forum, Bot vs Bot arguments. But AI bot arguments will also be easier to detect because it does not give a good Opinion and all are only based on existing data (not new thoughts). every definition explained is too long and cannot be to the point.
after all, why use AI bots to just comment or argue in the forum? it is only done by people who are lazy to think.
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May 26, 2023, 04:04:33 PM
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Currently never seen a person get banned due to posting images, still we prefer to put the references so the people get caught up with the recent conversation and at the same time know if the information given are reliable or not. It is not too hard to provide credit to the sources you are using if you make research we know how does it important your content which is the related literature here in our community we want information open for everyone and we can check at the same time by providing the links. I used the quote and link feature and uploading the image makes sure it's not too enlarge which makes it annoying upon checking.

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