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June 07, 2023, 08:57:44 AM
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We are in the 21st century, until when before people realize that suicide does not put an end to problem, but rather create more for those living??

I pray non of us, and any of our relative shall ever be a victim of such a sad story 😢😢.
Maybe the reasons differ for each person that committed suicide but I’m sure the feeling they got in their last moments in life. Just these last two months here in our region we had 2 incidents with each different reasons and stories. The regret of suicide when it’s late is also unavoidable because I’m sure these people didn’t really want to die after giving it a second thought. We are all humans and we meant to live, this poor boy suffered his last moments after drinking an insecticide and the proof he was screaming for help and regretting doing that.
Gambling is one of the dangerous addictions and lead to serious issues, some countries doesn’t have any help centers to help these cases. That’s why online casinos should do more than just a small warning about gambling addiction. Maybe courses and live session for outreach.

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June 07, 2023, 09:02:09 AM
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I’m not sure I agree with those of you blaming the parents. I am pretty sure that their child committing suicide wasn’t their goal. People do things by themselves sometimes and I feel like if help was needed it would have been provided. Having been young once myself though, I can understand how a run of bad luck could seem like the end of the world when you lack life experience.

You're right, no parents will ever want a death penalty for thier child for lack of being irresponsible or to have taken this kind of stupid act squandering their money away in gambling instead of using it for school fee as intended for, but yet the decision the boy made was too hasty and heavier than he had thought, maybe he's having such an encounter for the first time being in a dilemma situation, the worst that could happen is for him to receive the worst purnishment and shame of his life and everything will die down sooner, some decisions we made aren't just adequate enough when reasoning on the consequences that we might received for talking a wrong step.
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June 07, 2023, 09:06:18 AM
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I'm so sorry to hear that. We always say, have to be responsible with our own money. We should not bet with someone else's money at all. Even with debt. But as a failed amateur bettor, I know this myself as betting draws people into bigger holes with its hidden hopes on top of the damage . Thats whats make you gave up or makes you end up the situation you don't wanna be in it rather being not alive anymore. So sad. We should live responsibly and bet responsibly. Talk to someone when somethings wrong. Rip
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June 07, 2023, 10:10:57 AM
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This is a big lesson for everyone. We must always remember we only use small money for gambling and we don't use the money for basic needs (ex: school fees). We are familiar with the words 'use money that we can afford to lose'. As long as we follow this rule, we won't experience severe losses like this case. And we also need to tell our family about our habits, including gambling activities. So, if there is something wrong with us, our family members can remind us and help us.
If someone can control himself in gambling, it won't be difficult to do. But the problem is when someone has played gambling too much, he can use more money because we know that playing gambling has many temptations and not many can resist being tempted.

Using the money we can afford is a sentence that we really have to remember and we shouldn't forget because that's what can make us really limit our gambling. And even though we can't control ourselves completely yet, we still have to try to control ourselves because we don't want to experience defeat and spend all the money we have.
There has been a lot of discussion about self-control and I even gave my own responses on self-control issues several times.
Maybe someone will become a responsible gambler and avoid unwanted things if they can have self-control, but to be honest I can't easily believe that a gambler can have self-control in every game session when gambling because they will get carried away so their thoughts will only 1 gamble and gamble.
Yes using money that can be received when it is lost is very important but in this case he is a teenager who is still in school where he can get some money from his parents so it is clear that it is difficult for him to be able to accept when the money used in gambling is lost .
That's why they must keep trying hard to become responsible gamblers. In learning to control themselves, they will find many things that they can apply to play gambling and can be used for other things. Maybe it will be hard for them but they have to do it especially if they want to avoid gambling addiction and have seen the effects for someone already addicted to gambling.

If the teenager can strictly control the use of his money and always strictly limit it, he will not develop a gambling addiction and will even learn that gambling too much will lead to gambling addiction. He can avoid it well and even invite or teach his peers who are already gambling to reduce their gambling activities.

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June 07, 2023, 12:14:25 PM
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It is really very sad but it is not good to take loan from a friend for betting because no one can guarantee whether you will win in gambling. It totally depends on luck. Many people will choose this road again if they are at risk if they can't win. Suicide is never the right solution to anything youngsters are very emotional, so first learn to control them and then bet. So this event can be seen as a small effort to lighten someone's misery rather than placing a bet or taking a risk for a friend learn more about gambling first then move on.

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June 07, 2023, 01:18:40 PM
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It is really very sad but it is not good to take loan from a friend for betting because no one can guarantee whether you will win in gambling. It totally depends on luck. Many people will choose this road again if they are at risk if they can't win. Suicide is never the right solution to anything youngsters are very emotional, so first learn to control them and then bet. So this event can be seen as a small effort to lighten someone's misery rather than placing a bet or taking a risk for a friend learn more about gambling first then move on.
I completely agree with you my friend, it has always been sounded as a warning to everyone that no one should borrow money to invest in crypto, if borrowing to invest in crypto is not advisable, then borrowing money to gamble is even worst, the dude lost his school fees quite alright, but what actually drove him to suicide was the school fees of his friend which he also gambled away, he was probably hoping to get his own school fees back if he had won the bet which he placed with his friend's school fees, but unfortunately for him, he also lost it, it's a great lesson for every one to learn though.

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June 07, 2023, 02:36:47 PM
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It is really very sad but it is not good to take loan from a friend for betting because no one can guarantee whether you will win in gambling. It totally depends on luck. Many people will choose this road again if they are at risk if they can't win. Suicide is never the right solution to anything youngsters are very emotional, so first learn to control them and then bet. So this event can be seen as a small effort to lighten someone's misery rather than placing a bet or taking a risk for a friend learn more about gambling first then move on.

I agree with this.

It's not right to use a borrowed money for gambling because you don't have enough money to begin with, then why would you gamble? If you don't have fund as spare, then you definitely can't afford to lose it. So it's really wrong in so many ways to gamble using other people's money and even using your own money but already allocated to other things. Although maybe the victim didn't know much about finances, hence he did such thing that eventually forced him to took his own life. Hopefully, harming oneself won't be the resort of those people who lose from gambling. Because life is so precious as a trade for debts or losses.
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June 07, 2023, 02:44:48 PM
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It's a sad story, but anything that is an addiction is not really good for us. Gambling addiction is not new, and there are people who become addicted and may even choose to end their life when they see no solution to their problem. I believe the rate of addiction has dropped since most gamblers are now better educated about how to manage the risks involved in gambling.

I am a sports bettor too, but I have never reached a point where I am addicted to the extent of gambling money I cannot afford to lose. That would simply be plain stupidity. However, people do make mistakes, so hopefully, we can learn from such stories and realize our own mistakes if we find ourselves in a similar situation.



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June 07, 2023, 02:45:40 PM
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May the soul of the departed rest in eternal peace. It sad to discuss this but I am only imagining how the young student would have felt after losing his school fees and that of his friend to gambling, the thoughts of how to replace the money must have pushed him into this or the thought of how he will face his friend. I wish people will just understand that gambling is not a business venture and that winning happens only 15% of the total gambling life cycle of a gambler the rest always end in losses. His friend will now leave to mourn his friend and the money lost to gambling.
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June 07, 2023, 08:01:44 PM
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Suicide does not solve the problem, because the debt is usually passed on to relatives. So you need to weigh everything well before you decide to take this extreme step. And you can always find a way out if you control your emotions. Yes, it can be very difficult - but you have to overcome yourself and make conclusions for the future.
It depends on the laws regarding each country, debts that you have with the government are not waived even if the person dies, but debts with banks and other private institutions are often discharged on several jurisdictions, however this is no compensation at all when we compare it to the psychological damage and emotional anguish their family members and friends have to go through when facing the suicide of someone they love.
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June 07, 2023, 09:46:09 PM
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He should have seek for help base on the story their family has a power or their not poor they could afford to do some consultation for him.
And for I think if the parents are more connected to their child then they would have notice the problem, and they could have help him with it.
It isn't the first time that a person who has been in huge debt had taken their own life, or who has been addicted to something had done it.
But let's hope that those who are close to us would open up when they needed to talk and needed someone to be there for them.



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June 07, 2023, 11:07:09 PM
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Suicide does not solve the problem, because the debt is usually passed on to relatives. So you need to weigh everything well before you decide to take this extreme step. And you can always find a way out if you control your emotions. Yes, it can be very difficult - but you have to overcome yourself and make conclusions for the future.
It depends on the laws regarding each country, debts that you have with the government are not waived even if the person dies, but debts with banks and other private institutions are often discharged on several jurisdictions, however this is no compensation at all when we compare it to the psychological damage and emotional anguish their family members and friends have to go through when facing the suicide of someone they love.
This is where people do mistake losing with gambling. We should understand well about the consequences on the positives and negatives, and have the mind to accept it. Only after that we should decide whether it suits or not. If not we should have the mind to share what has happened with someone close to us and get rid of it. Everyone doesn't do this, and this is where we get to see similar incidents. The loss the family experience can never be compensated with anything.

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June 07, 2023, 11:10:36 PM
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Suicide does not solve the problem, because the debt is usually passed on to relatives. So you need to weigh everything well before you decide to take this extreme step. And you can always find a way out if you control your emotions. Yes, it can be very difficult - but you have to overcome yourself and make conclusions for the future.
It depends on the laws regarding each country, debts that you have with the government are not waived even if the person dies, but debts with banks and other private institutions are often discharged on several jurisdictions, however this is no compensation at all when we compare it to the psychological damage and emotional anguish their family members and friends have to go through when facing the suicide of someone they love.
In most cases i do believe that unpaid loans of a certain user even if he/she dies would definitely be waived or would really be solved out but rather the ones who would really be obliged on paying it out is the family that had been left out but same as you said that there might be some private companies or banks would really be having that kind of set up but here in our country, you would really be needing to pay it up unless if that certain person having that insurance then everything would really be covered up. This is why its really that important on having insurance but for a certain young person who
arent really that stable income or have work or have paid up any insurance or whatsoever, then there's no way on availing these things.It is really just sad that there are ones who do end up on taking their lives just to solve out the problem that they do have. You know that debt problems is really that worst as the days passing by, it would really be a never ending kind of chase and asked out on repaying your loan on which if you are a certain person who does have weak emotions then you would might be ending up on committing suicide.

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June 07, 2023, 11:16:10 PM
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He should have seek for help base on the story their family has a power or their not poor they could afford to do some consultation for him.
And for I think if the parents are more connected to their child then they would have notice the problem, and they could have help him with it.
It isn't the first time that a person who has been in huge debt had taken their own life, or who has been addicted to something had done it.
But let's hope that those who are close to us would open up when they needed to talk and needed someone to be there for them.

At that time all his thoughts is to kill himself and leave the world. To seek for advice will never come to mind again. He can't do anything to help himself at that time unless someone see the need and take him to the guidance and counseling unit for counseling him very well.  Some of them are not even addict, sometimes he was just trying is luck for the first time and the game went wrong and he loss everything and could not tell his parents what happened again. So the best option for him is to kill himself. Well I feel sorry for him. May is soul rest in peace Amen.

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June 07, 2023, 11:25:33 PM
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If someone can control himself in gambling, it won't be difficult to do. But the problem is when someone has played gambling too much, he can use more money because we know that playing gambling has many temptations and not many can resist being tempted.
But having good self-control isn't something easy, it can be mastered after you got a lot of experience. In this case, the may not have enough experience in gambling, so he gets difficulty controlling his emotion. Anyway, playing too much indicates that someone has no good self-control, he won't do something excessively if he can control himself well.

Using the money we can afford is a sentence that we really have to remember and we shouldn't forget because that's what can make us really limit our gambling. And even though we can't control ourselves completely yet, we still have to try to control ourselves because we don't want to experience defeat and spend all the money we have.
Limiting money is one of the ways to control our gambling habits. It also prevents us to waste our primary money. However, to have good money management, someone should be mature enough. That's why it is forbidden for kids to gamble. Only when you are already a mature person that you know the limit and have the ability to control yourself. Sadly, in this case, the boy is already 22 years old which means he is mature enough. This means even if your age is mature enough, no guarantee of safe gambling if your psychology is not mature enough


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June 07, 2023, 11:36:30 PM
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This is a pathetic way to die. Suicide is not the solution for anything. Gambling is not for children and the boy was a high school student. Children can be emotional but parents must teach them how to be strong and thick-skinned. How did the boy involve in gambling that he lost his tuition fees in gambling? This is a warning for parents to take more care of their children and monitor their activities.
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June 08, 2023, 04:04:31 AM
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If someone can control himself in gambling, it won't be difficult to do. But the problem is when someone has played gambling too much, he can use more money because we know that playing gambling has many temptations and not many can resist being tempted.
But having good self-control isn't something easy, it can be mastered after you got a lot of experience. In this case, the may not have enough experience in gambling, so he gets difficulty controlling his emotion. Anyway, playing too much indicates that someone has no good self-control, he won't do something excessively if he can control himself well.
It's not easy to have good self-control, but we still have to practice it so that we won't have any trouble controlling ourselves because, in gambling, we will encounter more temptations to continue gambling. If we can't control ourselves, we won't be able to stop the game but will be even more eager to win more money. Maybe we don't have enough experience but if we have good self-control, we can avoid the urge to continue gambling. The important thing is we have to keep trying before it's too late to realize.

Using the money we can afford is a sentence that we really have to remember and we shouldn't forget because that's what can make us really limit our gambling. And even though we can't control ourselves completely yet, we still have to try to control ourselves because we don't want to experience defeat and spend all the money we have.
Limiting money is one of the ways to control our gambling habits. It also prevents us to waste our primary money. However, to have good money management, someone should be mature enough. That's why it is forbidden for kids to gamble. Only when you are already a mature person that you know the limit and have the ability to control yourself. Sadly, in this case, the boy is already 22 years old which means he is mature enough. This means even if your age is mature enough, no guarantee of safe gambling if your psychology is not mature enough
Limiting money can help us reduce the time we play gambling because if we run out of money to gamble, we will stop but that depends on how strong we can stop ourselves because many people cannot stop it and instead deposit more money. Age does not guarantee a person's level of maturity in self-control because it is possible for someone under 30 to be able to control himself better than someone over 30. And it depends on how that person thinks in response to what he is doing.

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June 08, 2023, 09:23:32 AM
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He should have seek for help base on the story their family has a power or their not poor they could afford to do some consultation for him.
And for I think if the parents are more connected to their child then they would have notice the problem, and they could have help him with it.

He must be frustrated already and had no courage to share the situation with his family. We do not really the real situation of his family including financially, emotionally (communication between children and parents), etc. I'm sure he had the idea to find help from his family but I'm sure as well that he had some considerations about what would be the reactions from his family (parents).

It isn't the first time that a person who has been in huge debt had taken their own life, or who has been addicted to something had done it.
But let's hope that those who are close to us would open up when they needed to talk and needed someone to be there for them.

Sure it is not the first time and I'm sure there are many similar case like this all over the world. What we can do is to start with ourselves by controlling ourselves in any activity we do in life especially if it is related to money. After that, we can spread good vibes for our families the to other people around us.

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It's very annoying to see small boys getting addicted to gambling, whatever your advice might be they won't listen to you, they will pretend they understand what you are telling them but once they leave your side they will still go back and gamble, I don't know what is the best way to deal with such thing, I've tried my best to talk few people out of this mess, but they are behaving like they are hypnotized by gambling.

Maybe this is why some people believe that gambling as it's own demon, that possessed and control people,  I would have believed this myself, but I couldn't because I do gamble too and I am not an addict, may the Almighty Father have mercy on his soul, now that this boy took is own life, I don't see how this will help him even in the afterlife.

Taking your own life is not the solution, the will someone have to try taking their lives because of gambling can be diverted into hating gambling for life, the way they think is what played tricks on those that took their lives.

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June 08, 2023, 09:34:33 AM
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It is really very sad but it is not good to take loan from a friend for betting because no one can guarantee whether you will win in gambling. It totally depends on luck. Many people will choose this road again if they are at risk if they can't win. Suicide is never the right solution to anything youngsters are very emotional, so first learn to control them and then bet. So this event can be seen as a small effort to lighten someone's misery rather than placing a bet or taking a risk for a friend learn more about gambling first then move on.
suicide is not an option but most people don't know this and they indulge themselves in this abominable act of taking your own life over a depth owed. As a gambler who fully understand that the game is a win and lose affair, you will have the understanding that gambling with other people funds is very dangerous and can lead you to destruction and if you know this you can avoid so many troubles that comes with gambling with the wrong money.

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