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November 30, 2023, 01:25:06 AM
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ML odds are pretty much the same for MU and Galastaray
Galastaray - 2.70
Man United - 2.50
The odds are quite attractive equally high, but Man United still have a chance in this match whether they can win to qualify or even feel more embarrassed because they have to lose, so far we have little doubt about Man United's game but their motivation and mentality will always be there considering this must win important points in order to shift Copenhagen and Galatasaray.

But I have chosen the odds on Man United, as said they will play attacking because this is one of the important matches at home to Galatasaray.
Sorry for your loss in this match I guess? Should have chosen the part you omitted - total goals at over 2.5
I've already said it in my previous response that MU have shown they could actually score but they're also bad at defense so betting on them winning has more risk.

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I mean picking the home team for 2.70 is not bad at all. I just think betting on the total scores is not as risky as ML. Man United may have lost most of their games but there's no denying that they are still capable of scoring while allowing the other teams in this group to score more.
Home win at this point in time is not that advisable. I still see the home team getting an equalizer in this game and might end in a draw.
Man UTD are really playing like amateurs, no energy no force just looking for any counter to get a goal, if it was in the EPL I believe they would've been struggling and playing with much pressure.
Hehe called it. I still give credit to MU's clean counterattacks but I think Onana ruined all of it for being beaten twice from a free kick.
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November 30, 2023, 01:33:13 AM
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It happened exactly as I thought and said yesterday. PSG failed to come back after conceding the first goal. Newcastle United played in such a way that they pulled the bus in front of the defense. They applied the old Mourinho tactics. And they were successful in this until the last minutes. However, they left 2 points on the field with the goal in extra time. PSG missed too many goal chances.
I believe PSG was quite fortunate and, to some extent, benefited from favorable refereeing, which is the only reason they didn't lose this match. A victory would have been more deserved for Newcastle. This leads to the upcoming match with Dortmund, which can be considered like a final against PSG.
Luckily for them, Dortmund has secured a spot in the next round, so their competitive drive might not be as strong, and they might prioritize preserving their squad. For Newcastle, it will be tougher since AC Milan also needs a win to advance, and they are hoping PSG will lose to Dortmund.

The last minute goal was very good for PSG. It increased their chances of qualifying for the next round, if they had lost they would probably have been eliminated.
Their next game is against B.Dortmund and they beat them in the first game, I think they will draw at worst in this one.
This heaven-sent goal indeed saved PSG from an apparent defeat, somewhat making it easier for them compared to Newcastle and AC Milan because they have the ability to control their destiny in the final match.
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November 30, 2023, 01:35:57 AM
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(...) From England, Manchester City, Arsenal and Newcastle have made them proud. For Manchester United, this was not expected of them.

Now we wait for the draws, to see the teams to face each other in the knockout round.
The results accurately reflect their true strength, I feel luckier for MU when they are eliminated and will spend time in other tournaments. This season, the additional force is not of good quality, and their playing style also lacks uniformity. Watching their real match yesterday, I think if we ignore the result, it was a dramatic match, with six goals divided equally between both sides. Through this, it was also seen that their bravery was not enough when they twice led with a two goal difference, but in the end, they could not maintain that result.

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November 30, 2023, 01:38:08 AM
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The match was quite interesting with the way the goals were coming, perhaps Lens will be very careful when next they Will meet Arsenal because Arsenal has proving to them that there performance can never be compared with theirs. Perhaps I no that Arsenal is very inform but I never imagine they would score this much against lens.
Arsenal always plays very well at home. Good game for Arsenal to ensure their qualification as Manchester United fail out from the competition. Havertz scored again for Arsenal after his winning goal for them against Brentford in the premier league. Scoring like this is good for him, because it was about time, he started bringing his contributions to the team. From England, Manchester City, Arsenal and Newcastle have made them proud. For Manchester United, this was not expected of them.

Now we wait for the draws, to see the teams to face each other in the knockout round.

Arsenal plays well at home but i didnt expect them that they would play this good at home against Lens. They just destoyed them in the first half and the match was already done then. With this win they secured the next stage od the champions league while Lens still has a chance in the last round.

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November 30, 2023, 02:18:09 AM
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I believe that we had a "decent" game at best, and the only reason we were able to get the 3-3 tie was because Onana is by far the worst goalkeeper I have ever seen.
He has problems with his transfer cost and pressure from the club expectation as well as bad performances recently also recent more pressure for him. Contributing two goals for Galatasaray in an important match like this is actually a nightmare for Onana. He will feel more stressful after this match and if this continue and Manchester United will be out of Champions League, Onana will be called as one of biggest contributors for this failure.

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I mean I can find a better goalkeeper than him at championship or even maybe league one levels. This dude seems to be playing with absolutely zero confidence and doesn't know what to do and gets way too much nervous while trying to save balls.
He likely did not have enough focus for this important match and it is reflected on two conceded goals he made for his club. Nothing to discuss more about saving ability of Onana because he never was considered well with savings. His best strength is passing that is not most important for a goalkeeper.

This bad match of Onana again raises a question that why Ten Hag let De Gea go and put his belief on Onana.

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November 30, 2023, 02:30:30 AM
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Bayern Munic gave their worst outing once again. It is obvious their days of many goals is gone. Who would have thought that Bayern Munic could not even score a single goal in their home game against Kopenhavn. Just recently they struggled to win Koln a goal to nil at away in a match the whole world expected many goals.

Maybe they are saving their strength for Union Berlin as they already qualified in the group of the Champions League.  Their focus will definitely be the domestic league where they are trailing with two points behind Bayern Leverkusen that have remain resolute to finish the season at the top.

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November 30, 2023, 02:53:12 AM
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I believe that we had a "decent" game at best, and the only reason we were able to get the 3-3 tie was because Onana is by far the worst goalkeeper I have ever seen. I mean I can find a better goalkeeper than him at championship or even maybe league one levels. This dude seems to be playing with absolutely zero confidence and doesn't know what to do and gets way too much nervous while trying to save balls. In the end, we got the tie, right now its all tied. I seriously did not expected Copenhag to get a tie with Bayern, I fully expected Bayern to ned up with a win, its a terrible situation for us that they failed that, but after all they guaranteed so why would they work hard for it, they can relax. Last game matters, as long as Bayern wins, we are going to be fine, I think even a tie would be fine, we just need them not to lose. If Bayern wins, then in case we get a tie or a loss, we still go to Europa, and if we win then we move further at UCL, so its no longer really about our own game, Bayern should win, if they do, rest is easy, I am fine with either case, third or second I would still celebrate.
Second of Galatasaray's goals from Hakim Ziyech trough free kick unbelievable with Andre Onana miss it and Manchester United failed with three points achievement last night. Beside on Premier League, Andre Onana success become the first goals keeper with 5 clean sheet but he has very poor performance against Galatasaray. I doubt with Manchester United opportunity will qualify from group stage regarding they have bottom standings and left one match have against Bayern Munich, its not easy however with Conpenhagen success get one point last night from Bayern but Manchester United have waiting another result between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray.

Manchester United have one thing for qualifying to next round, get three points against Bayern Munich and match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray must be draw, if one of both team get three points automatically over for Manchester United qualify to next round.

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November 30, 2023, 03:17:38 AM
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Second of Galatasaray's goals from Hakim Ziyech trough free kick unbelievable with Andre Onana miss it and Manchester United failed with three points achievement last night.
Ziyech have two goals from two unbelievable mistakes of Onana, not only from that free kick. Manchester United had good advantages in both matches against Galatasaray but they ended those matches with one defeat and one draw. Their biggest problem is from defense system which failed to defend good advantage created by attacking players.

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Manchester United have one thing for qualifying to next round, get three points against Bayern Munich and match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray must be draw, if one of both team get three points automatically over for Manchester United qualify to next round.
Get three points from Bayern Munich, it sounds an impossible mission for Manchester United. I guess they will have only one point from Bayern Munich and this means Manchester United will have to play in Europa League again. Even with a second team, Bayern Munich will be able to create troubles to Manchester United in the last match.

Arsenal always plays very well at home. Good game for Arsenal to ensure their qualification as Manchester United fail out from the competition. Havertz scored again for Arsenal after his winning goal for them against Brentford in the premier league. Scoring like this is good for him, because it was about time, he started bringing his contributions to the team.
Playing in Champions League is very important for big clubs because firstly it is helpful for their finance with very good income from Champions League. Second, tough matches in Champions League will help their players to improve quality and mentality which will be helpful when they return to domestic league. Arsenal are on a way to become one of strongest competitors in Premier League and their performances in Champions League are improving too.

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November 30, 2023, 03:35:30 AM
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Bayern Munic gave their worst outing once again. It is obvious their days of many goals is gone. Who would have thought that Bayern Munic could not even score a single goal in their home game against Kopenhavn. Just recently they struggled to win Koln a goal to nil at away in a match the whole world expected many goals.
Bayern was not playing seriously or it was not caring anymore to the result in UCL but there will be most important match and it must be against manchester united. Bayern will able to eliminate one of strong competitor once it will able to beat MU in the last matchday.
I think that bayern was not silling to show off its performance. This is what it's quite weird to see how bayern gets draw against copenhagen. I never expected it to happen but seeing how bayern was not putting sane since the first half made me feel bad for bayern.
The bettors were obviously losing a lot in this match caused by bayern gets draw against it.

Maybe they are saving their strength for Union Berlin as they already qualified in the group of the Champions League.  Their focus will definitely be the domestic league where they are trailing with two points behind Bayern Leverkusen that have remain resolute to finish the season at the top.
Berlin was not a strong club. Bayern will obviously win the game against berlin easily. Berlin is declining so hard. I see berlin has only small chance to win against bayern munich.

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November 30, 2023, 03:41:34 AM
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Napoli is still the second club with the most points in group C of the Uefa Champions League, and they can still qualify for the last 16 of the Uefa Champions League if they can play a draw match against Braga in Italy. With the help of home advantage and the experience of Napoli in the Uefa Champions League, I see Napoli securing a point against Braga in their upcoming match.
A disappointing night for Napoli after they took the lead in the 9th minute and still levelled up the score after they were down 2-1. But they lost to a world-class side with one of the best coaches in the world. Poor defending from Napoli caused them this loss because they gave Real attackers too much space. You don't give players like Rodrygo and Bellingham such space and expect not to be punished. But Napoli still has their destiny in their hands, if they can win or at least draw the game against Braga.

But from yesterday's performance in Estádio Municipal de Braga, Portugal we saw that the home team will not be easy to defeat. FC Union Berlin struggled to win Braga even after Niakate was shown an early red card in the 31st  minute. They defended very well and capitalised on any mistake of the visiting team. And they had the breakthrough when Djaló got the goal using his pace to outsmart the Union Berlin defenders. The visiting team is out of the UCL and will not even feature in the Europa League while Napoli and Braga fight for the second position. Real Madrid might decide to feature new players while top players will be rested because they don't need to scramble for more points after earning 15 points from 5 games, what a team!!!

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November 30, 2023, 04:22:04 AM
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Second of Galatasaray's goals from Hakim Ziyech trough free kick unbelievable with Andre Onana miss it and Manchester United failed with three points achievement last night. Beside on Premier League, Andre Onana success become the first goals keeper with 5 clean sheet but he has very poor performance against Galatasaray. I doubt with Manchester United opportunity will qualify from group stage regarding they have bottom standings and left one match have against Bayern Munich, its not easy however with Conpenhagen success get one point last night from Bayern but Manchester United have waiting another result between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray.

Manchester United have one thing for qualifying to next round, get three points against Bayern Munich and match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray must be draw, if one of both team get three points automatically over for Manchester United qualify to next round.

Manchester United must be willing to get just one point and make their chances of qualifying for the knockout phase even harder. Andre Onana has again become the target of blasphemy due to a blunder he made. The Red Devils should have been able to have a party that night because they managed to take the lead before making a comeback.

Manchester United had to do extra hard in the last match against Bayern Munich. Of course, this opportunity is still very open because it is possible that Bayern will not field a full squad, but of course that is not a guarantee because Bavaria also wants to maintain its prestige.

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November 30, 2023, 04:31:09 AM
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Currently there are still several big matches going on. One of them is Real Madrid vs Napoli. Even though they had previously led 2 - 1, unfortunately Napoli were able to catch up with their second goal in the 47th minute. The match was still very exciting, and in the end Real Madrid were able to lead again with a goal from Nico Paz which put them ahead again 3 - 2. Really, this is an exciting and tight match. BTW, Osimhen has been a backup several times recently. Maybe this is one of Mazzarri's strategies or because there is something in him.

Real Madrid entered the match against Napoli with a comfortable attitude because they had previously won tickets to the 1/8 round. They continue to prove their unique position in the group by winning all 5 matches in the group stage so far. Although Napoli was determined, Real Madrid's superior expertise and personnel overshadowed them. And Real Madrid's -fieldtage. In the final round, Napoli only needs to draw with Sporting Braga to follow Real Madrid to advance to the next round.

As for Osimhen, he returned after 48 days of absence due to injury. Coach Mazzarri breathed new life into Napoli even though they lost this match.

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November 30, 2023, 04:39:26 AM
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Manchester United supporters have exercised their dissapointment in Andre Onana this season especially in topflight games, he always dissapoints. André Onana keeps messing up big time for the club he so cherished. Manchester United draw tie against Galatasaray was as a result of the poor defensive game and the heavy blunders made by the Cameroon international. Onana have absolutely no excuse to make, because these two free kicks was just a long range shot which as a potential keeper, he sits in good position to hold such long range balls without any difficulty, he train and he's qualified for the Jon, so tell me, what went wrong.
For me, all the blame should not go entirely to Onana. Dude, the guy did his best. He even tried limiting his dribbling and saved some shots else the Galatasaray side would have had at least 5 to 6 goals. What were the midfielders doing? you don't get to blame Maguire cause he showed up and did better than some of his teammates. Winning is a collective achievement and they did their best but it's safe to say the champions league is not for them this season, maybe focusing their energy on the domestic league could give them something else to think about.
 Many will blame the choices of Erik to keep starting Onana and for me I feel he ought to give the guy a break. The Cameroonian is going under a lot of pressure and since he was bought, I doubt he has rested. Granted, he's the first choice keeper but when their performance is not impressive, if fans don't blame Onana, it would be Maguire.
For me, Man UTD are a good club but they just have a bad management and do not really have a good strategy they can always rely on.

 
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November 30, 2023, 04:45:55 AM
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Bayern Munic gave their worst outing once again. It is obvious their days of many goals is gone. Who would have thought that Bayern Munic could not even score a single goal in their home game against Kopenhavn. Just recently they struggled to win Koln a goal to nil at away in a match the whole world expected many goals.

Maybe they are saving their strength for Union Berlin as they already qualified in the group of the Champions League.  Their focus will definitely be the domestic league where they are trailing with two points behind Bayern Leverkusen that have remain resolute to finish the season at the top.

You need to understand that in football most times when a particular club feels like they've qualified for the next round while they still have outstanding matches they don't really put more energy in their remaining matches and can even reserve some important players in such matches, so I think Bayern Munich saw themselves as people that has already qualified for the round of 16 thereby not putting much effort to win a less competitive club like FC Copenhagen.











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November 30, 2023, 05:06:38 AM
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Currently there are still several big matches going on. One of them is Real Madrid vs Napoli. Even though they had previously led 2 - 1, unfortunately Napoli were able to catch up with their second goal in the 47th minute. The match was still very exciting, and in the end Real Madrid were able to lead again with a goal from Nico Paz which put them ahead again 3 - 2. Really, this is an exciting and tight match. BTW, Osimhen has been a backup several times recently. Maybe this is one of Mazzarri's strategies or because there is something in him.

Real Madrid entered the match against Napoli with a comfortable attitude because they had previously won tickets to the 1/8 round. They continue to prove their unique position in the group by winning all 5 matches in the group stage so far. Although Napoli was determined, Real Madrid's superior expertise and personnel overshadowed them. And Real Madrid's -fieldtage. In the final round, Napoli only needs to draw with Sporting Braga to follow Real Madrid to advance to the next round.

As for Osimhen, he returned after 48 days of absence due to injury. Coach Mazzarri breathed new life into Napoli even though they lost this match.
It was seen from the start of the match that Real madrid were very comfortable and had a bigger advantage over Napoli on the one hand, the away match gave Madrid fans a lot of strength and Osimhen return did not give special impression to Napoli because after suffering an injury the player needed to adapt again to be able to perform better but unfortunately only 1 match behind if in next match you can not beat Braga it will be very worrying.
and I really really like Bellingham playing style, who was able to make quite good contribution and Joselu again provided an impressive closing score.

btw, Galatasaray vs Man united match, initially the Red Devils were very confident that they could lead 2 scores, but unfortunately mistake was repeated again if the defense line was very bad and Onana returned with slightly poor performance, unable to secure his own goal and ended in draw.

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November 30, 2023, 05:07:32 AM
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(...) From England, Manchester City, Arsenal and Newcastle have made them proud. For Manchester United, this was not expected of them.

Now we wait for the draws, to see the teams to face each other in the knockout round.
The results accurately reflect their true strength, I feel luckier for MU when they are eliminated and will spend time in other tournaments. This season, the additional force is not of good quality, and their playing style also lacks uniformity. Watching their real match yesterday, I think if we ignore the result, it was a dramatic match, with six goals divided equally between both sides. Through this, it was also seen that their bravery was not enough when they twice led with a two goal difference, but in the end, they could not maintain that result.
When playing at Galatasaray headquarters, Manchester United could be said to have started the match well, they had a 3-1 lead over the hosts, but due to their very fragile defense, Manchester United could not maintain their lead. The 3-3 draw achieved at Galatasaray headquarters was a very painful blow for Manchester United, due to failing to secure full points they had to play a tough match in the last match against Bayern Munich.

Manchester United must win the match against Bayern Munich while hoping that the other match between Copenhagen and Galatasaray ends in a draw. I can say, Manchester United chances of qualifying are very small because Galatasaray will face a team that is easier to beat.

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November 30, 2023, 05:13:24 AM
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Arsenal really avenged their previous defeat when they faced Lens in the first meeting, Arsenal even responded with an extraordinary score of 6:0, the visitors were not given the opportunity to create a goal opportunity, Arsenal's defense this time was very strong and Arsenal's strikers each scored a goal for club Mikel's Arteta smiled broadly thanks to the victory and now Arsenal has pocketed enough points to qualify.

Meanwhile the Group A match Galatasaray vs Manchester United managed to draw 3:3 and Bayern Munich vs Copenhagen also managed to draw goalless 0:0 now 3 clubs are competing strongly to qualify for the last 16 not only group F but group A also has a good chance almost the same.
I didn't expect that Bayern Munich couldn't win the match even though they were playing at home, even though when they played away, Bayern Munich could win the match against Copenhagen. But Bayern Munich had secured a definite ticket, while the three clubs still had to fight in the remaining 1 match in the Champions League later.
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November 30, 2023, 05:23:17 AM
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You need to understand that in football most times when a particular club feels like they've qualified for the next round while they still have outstanding matches they don't really put more energy in their remaining matches and can even reserve some important players in such matches, so I think Bayern Munich saw themselves as people that has already qualified for the round of 16 thereby not putting much effort to win a less competitive club like FC Copenhagen.
Yeah this is really normal to happen, why should the players and coach need to push themselves to win the match when it's clear they will enter the next round? they might looking for win since Bayern Munich play with their main lineup, but they don't have a big motivation.

If they win they will celebrate it, if they lose or draw, it's just like "oh well, shit happen, let's try again for the upcoming match".


The last week will be interesting, if Manchester United able to beat Bayern Munich and Copenhagen vs Galatasaray is draw, Manchester United will be qualified for the next round.

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November 30, 2023, 05:27:22 AM
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Bayan Music did not attack well in this match which led to the match against Copenhagen not winning but ending in a draw. Although the two teams battled hard neither team managed to get the ball in the goal net due to which both teams lost the winning points. However, Copenhagen played brilliantly against Bayern Munich and managed to save the goal due to a good performance. However, top of the points table, Bayern Munich have not lost a match so far and have not drawn, but this is their first draw against Copenhagen in the Champions League. Bayern Munich are at the top of Group A Champions League with 13 points while the other teams with many less points will be very difficult to catch. Also betting avoidance was given a lot at the end of this match where people lost a lot I think. Because most people bet in favor of Bayern Munich, but the match was a draw, those who bet on the draw are the only ones who got double the amount of profit to win the bet.

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November 30, 2023, 05:28:26 AM
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You need to understand that in football most times when a particular club feels like they've qualified for the next round while they still have outstanding matches they don't really put more energy in their remaining matches and can even reserve some important players in such matches, so I think Bayern Munich saw themselves as people that has already qualified for the round of 16 thereby not putting much effort to win a less competitive club like FC Copenhagen.
Yeah this is really normal to happen, why should the players and coach need to push themselves to win the match when it's clear they will enter the next round? they might looking for win since Bayern Munich play with their main lineup, but they don't have a big motivation.

If they win they will celebrate it, if they lose or draw, it's just like "oh well, shit happen, let's try again for the upcoming match".

Bayern Munich did not play to win this match. They have definitely secured the knockout round from the top of the table. So there was no need for Bayern Munich to win this match. Munich's aim was to draw the match and avoid any injuries. And Bayern Munich managed to draw the match goalless.
But since the match was Munich's home match. So the fans definitely expected a Munich win. Bayern Munich fans are somewhat disappointed. But I am happy with the performance of Munich. Bayern Munich are at the top of the points table with 13 points. They are 8 points ahead of the second placed team in the table.

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