UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[DaNNy001]

Goal has been ranked the teams based on their power

https://www.goal.com/en/lists/champions-league-2023-24-power-rankings/

1. Real madrid
2. Manchester city
3. Arsenal
4. Bayern
5. Intermilan

To be honest, i would value intermilan far stronger compared with arsenal and it shall be in the third place. Seeing intermilan was able reaching UCL final last season but arsenal was not even entering into the UCL. In my opinion, the author's assessment of Arsenal's score seems somewhat unusual.

The thing that surprises me that if author has been placing manchester united as the weakest team in the UCL so far. It's only above braga which is a shame. I fully agreed with the author regarding the position of manchester united.

United is now a mediocre team in UCL. It's finished now and united has probably 10% chance to qualify for the knock out stage. It shows that how garbage manchester united under ten hag.

Quite a normal assessment (pair Arsenal - Inter). Arsenal are consistently good in the Premier League and in the group stage of the Champions League Arsenal are also playing convincingly. And Inter, although playing well in Serie A, is poor in the group stage - at the moment they are losing the group to Sociedad and all their victories were won with a minimum score.
I wonder why Real are higher than City - City have virtually no weaknesses, while Real have them (at least on paper). In my opinion, the top three should look like: City, Bayern, Real Madrid.

I will not rate Inter Milan better than arsenal on their performance last season just  because they reached finals in Champions league last season. This season Inter Milan is doing different which I think arsenal is better in performance than Inter Milan if the quality of both teams should be checked.  For the performance of manchester united in the Champions league game their is no hope if they can be able to qualify for champions league.  Manchester United are in a terrible condition which their performance in champions league and Premier league is not impressive.

Manchester united are actually well aware of a solution to their problems but they do tend to shy away from the main issue and try to believe that things will get better which I know it won't and instead it will even get worse because this team is just something else. They playing form is currently fluctuating and most of the players here are just looking for a way to get rid of the arrogant coach ten hag.

For the rating of arsenal and inter Milan, well it's obviously clear that arsenal are playing more better despite the fact that inter were runners up last season. But the only thing is that inter Milan might get a better of the gunners maybe due to hard style of play.

[Roseline492]

I will not rate Inter Milan better than arsenal on their performance last season just  because they reached finals in Champions league last season. This season Inter Milan is doing different which I think arsenal is better in performance than Inter Milan if the quality of both teams should be checked.  For the performance of manchester united in the Champions league game their is no hope if they can be able to qualify for champions league.  Manchester United are in a terrible condition which their performance in champions league and Premier league is not impressive.

Of course there last season was okay but however for inter Milan reaching final in the champions League doesn't make them more better than Arsenal on the last season because Arsenal was also very much in a good form last season if not there mistake they did on the premier League they would have won the league, so the truth is that the both team were just doing very well on there various leagues they were playing.

But however Arsenal is far better than them this season in times of performance because Arsenal still maintains there last season performance by still leading on the premier League table and is very certain that even if they were unable to win the trophy this season but they are certain of the second position.

[doomloop]

City is a nightmare for opponents since they seem to have no weaknesses. But it's not surprising that Real Madrid stays at the top. They keep up their flawless Champions League performance with 5 wins out of 5. Real Madrid is killing it this season – 1st in La Liga, 1st in the UCL group stage. Even with injuries to key players, Madrid has stayed consistent.

City also have 5 wins from 5 games in the group and although they are not currently leaders in the Premier League, their chances of winning the title are rated as 1.1, while Real's chances of winning the La Liga title are rated as 1.5. It is obvious to me who is the stronger team here (even on paper) and unfortunately it is not Real Madrid. Thank God the injured players should already be back in action by the time the meeting between Real and City in the Champions League becomes possible.

We all know Premier League is one of the toughest league around the globe, and we have many teams which can change the tables with their own like Liverpool, and Arsenal currently both are having quality and performance which is surely interesting but in La Liga we have no challenges like this for the Real Madrid Barcelona having good start, but they are down with Girona is also having good early season but most chances we can't expect consistency from them which is essential for the win of title.

In Champions League, we have tough challenge but still most of the pundits are feeling things are good for the Real Madrid and Manchester City where anyone can go through even they have challenge from the Bayern Munich and Inter Milan but still these two are much superior for the win.

[imamusma]

Manchester united are actually well aware of a solution to their problems but they do tend to shy away from the main issue and try to believe that things will get better which I know it won't and instead it will even get worse because this team is just something else. They playing form is currently fluctuating and most of the players here are just looking for a way to get rid of the arrogant coach ten hag.

For the rating of arsenal and inter Milan, well it's obviously clear that arsenal are playing more better despite the fact that inter were runners up last season. But the only thing is that inter Milan might get a better of the gunners maybe due to hard style of play.

It seems to be true, the management and club officials seem to be ignoring the situation, they still have full trust in Ten Hag when it comes to managing the club. A series of problems are still not resolved, and now the club fate is increasingly dire. United fans must be very disappointed with the performance of their favorite club so far, and their hopes of seeing United advance to the round of 16 are now increasingly slim. After yesterday international break, United should be able to create consistency and develop in a better direction, and mark a turning point in performance so they can qualify from the UCL group phase. Apparently, what happened was the opposite, it was very difficult to predict their next move.

As for Inter Milan and Arsenal, I think both have qualities that are not much different, both clubs are at the top of their respective league standings with different levels of competition. Arsenal is clearly better in this regard, because the EPL is the most competitive league, so I think Arteta squad deserves to be above Inter for now.

[DaNNy001]

Manchester united are actually well aware of a solution to their problems but they do tend to shy away from the main issue and try to believe that things will get better which I know it won't and instead it will even get worse because this team is just something else. They playing form is currently fluctuating and most of the players here are just looking for a way to get rid of the arrogant coach ten hag.

For the rating of arsenal and inter Milan, well it's obviously clear that arsenal are playing more better despite the fact that inter were runners up last season. But the only thing is that inter Milan might get a better of the gunners maybe due to hard style of play.

It seems to be true, the management and club officials seem to be ignoring the situation, they still have full trust in Ten Hag when it comes to managing the club. A series of problems are still not resolved, and now the club fate is increasingly dire. United fans must be very disappointed with the performance of their favorite club so far, and their hopes of seeing United advance to the round of 16 are now increasingly slim. After yesterday international break, United should be able to create consistency and develop in a better direction, and mark a turning point in performance so they can qualify from the UCL group phase. Apparently, what happened was the opposite, it was very difficult to predict their next move.

As for Inter Milan and Arsenal, I think both have qualities that are not much different, both clubs are at the top of their respective league standings with different levels of competition. Arsenal is clearly better in this regard, because the EPL is the most competitive league, so I think Arteta squad deserves to be above Inter for now.

I think the fans can actually influence the decision of the club performance because when you talk about disappointment among the clubs fan of the English premier league, Manchester united fans are also ranked top 3 and knowing this they can actually influence the sacking of coach because so far as am concerned Manchester united are getting no where with this era of inconsistency in the club.

[Strongkored]

Galatasaray and Copenhagen both want to win because they both have the same chance of qualifying from the group phase, while Manchester United must win against Bayern and have to wait for the results of the matches from Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
So I think everything is possible here and Manchester United still has a chance to qualify even though the percentage is quite small.

Being a team whose fate is determined by the results of the matches of other teams is certainly an unpleasant thing and that is what Manchester United will experience. Winning against Bayern Munich even though this looks impossible will be in vain if Copenhagen or Galasataray win in the sixth match, even if their chance to being able to get a third place is also quite difficult so this may be a quiet bad season for Erik Ten Haag at Manchester United and seeing United make a coaching change at the end of the season is very wide open because the owner is dissatisfied with what is happening at his club.
From Copenhagen and Galatasaray, the team that will qualify, Galatasaray's chances are quite big even though their last match will be at home to Copenhagen

[GxSTxV]

I didn't get the chance to share my betting results for the Real Madrid against Napoli game. It was an entertaining match with both halves which creates a lot of betting opportunities. In the first half Napoli scored first contrary to my bet. I wanted to place another bet but Real Madrid quickly equalized and I missed the opportunity for another bet. In the second half, I seized the chance when Napoli made the score 2-2 early on. Luckily and the faith I had for Real Madrid that didn’t disappoint me with a 4-2 win, making a genuine profits from my bets.
To mention, Joselu's poor performance who was missing several real chances. Despite scoring the 4th goal from him I believe his overall contribution doesn't justify his place on the team, and this opinion is not only based on one match but most matches he played weren’t enough. Without Bellingham Real Madrid would lose or finish the match with a draw.

[Leobtc406]

It was quite unbelievable to see how Manchester United messed up their Uefa Chamions League campaign this season by playing so badly despite being placed in a much easier group with only Bayern Munich being the most difficult team to handle. With only 4 points earned in Group A, Manchester United fans could only hope there will not be a match winner between FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next upcoming final group match. Manchester United will also need to beat Bayern Munich at the stadium of Old Trafford to stand a chance to qualify for the next stage of the tournament.

Manchester United are really going through hard times imagine you winning 3 goals to 1 end up in an 3:3 draw it really surprising Erilk needs to work hard if he still love his job at Manchester United. Not qualifying from a group stage is disappointing to Manchester United fans, an easy group for that matter, United needs to work on there goalkeeper really hard if they want to go far because how can a goalkeeper conceive 14 goals in 5 matches is bad for a like Manchester United. Manchester United needs to win Bayern Munich at Old Trafford to qualify to next round if Galatasaray draws to Copenhagen.

[topbitcoin]

Galatasaray and Copenhagen both want to win because they both have the same chance of qualifying from the group phase, while Manchester United must win against Bayern and have to wait for the results of the matches from Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
So I think everything is possible here and Manchester United still has a chance to qualify even though the percentage is quite small.

Being a team whose fate is determined by the results of the matches of other teams is certainly an unpleasant thing and that is what Manchester United will experience. Winning against Bayern Munich even though this looks impossible will be in vain if Copenhagen or Galasataray win in the sixth match, even if their chance to being able to get a third place is also quite difficult so this may be a quiet bad season for Erik Ten Haag at Manchester United and seeing United make a coaching change at the end of the season is very wide open because the owner is dissatisfied with what is happening at his club.
From Copenhagen and Galatasaray, the team that will qualify, Galatasaray's chances are quite big even though their last match will be at home to Copenhagen

The problem for Manchester United right now is not only about its fate being decided by other clubs but they also need to be able to win against Bayern.
A win against Bayern in the group stage is not very easy to get especially if you look at Bayern's situation from each season in the group stage they rarely even lose and I forget the last time they lost in the group stage because they can always achieve positive results without defeat in the group stage even though there are some draw results.

This makes it even more troublesome and I think for now don't make too high expectations because for Manchester United to qualify for the next phase in the Champions League is a very difficult mission and they must try to let go of it now and accept the results that this season they failed.

[khiholangkang]

Manchester United didn't play bad against Galatasaray, but the mistakes made by Andre Onana were crucial for the end result.
Maybe Ten Hag should finally decide to use United's reserve goalkeeper and put Onana in the list of substitutes.
The other game I watched from this round of the group stage was Benfica-Inter. To be honest, I didn't see a penalty for Inter in the end.
The Inter player was clearly simulating. Anyway, lots of goals were scored, which is great for neutral fans like me.

Miserable season for the Manchester United with many on and off the field issues they are now out of the knock-out round because they are having Bayern Munich at Old Trafford and Copenhagen is going to host Galatasaray with this Manchester United having no option other than win and Copenhagen needs draw for the next round things are tricky because Bayern Munich in last match not able to score any goal against Copenhagen which is good for the Manchester United but still I am not favoring them.

Benfica done good job in this match but still their defense bring them down with from 3 - 0 to 3–3 is big slap for them from Inter Milan which is surely at their best in this season and having good chance for staying into hunt for the double after having good last season in Champions League they can go for another final.

To get a draw is certainly a difficult thing to be hoped for Manchester United on Galatasaray vs. Copenhagen, and in that Position they must win against Bayern Munich if they want to occupy second place to continue to the last 16.
This expectation is too bad in the Manchester United match that wants to force to enter the last 16, because now it is not easy to reach, a bad season for Ten Hag if he does not compete further at UCL.

Even though Benfica has been sure not to qualify for the next round but they show that they are not always weak, holding an Inter Milan draw is a good thing for them, so that they cannot be underestimated, the next match against RB Salzburg.

[shinratensei_]

I was impressed by the well deserve revenge. I did not anticipate that Arsenal would score five goals in the first half. Instead of six goals, I thought the game would end with one or two goals in favor of Arsenal. It was amazing to learn about the scorelines yesterday, and I can't explain why Lens flopped so badly.

Since Arsenal started in good form to play in the Champions League and Premier League this season, they did a good job of demonstrating their superiority over Lens and warning other teams to be mindful of them when they play against them.

Arsenal was the strongest team which score five goal in the first half itself,after this the Arsenal had start to play full defensive game.The Lens tried to counter attack for the five goals against them,but the strong Arsenal doesn't allow to score even one goal till the end of the game.This prove the dominating game of Arsenal in the Group B with this strong matches,even Lens was in the strong third position in the group B.This game again proves the strong position in the group,this will the warning message to the other team as like you said.With no surprise,Arsenal had scored his sixth goal at the end of the game and finish the game with 6-0 at the end of the match.

Indeed it's a warning to other teams that they should be careful of Arsenal when playing them,and one thing I have loved Arteta for is,not allowing a particular team to beat him twice.He has flogged all the teams that flogged them last season in the premier league.
Arsenal are among the teams I am tipping to finish first to 3rd in this year's champions league.I am optimistic that they will get to the semi final of this competition,and if care is not taken,they might probably go to the final as well.

I kept on watching yesterday's performance by the gunners,and to be frank,I am really happy with their performance of recent.They are beginning to have the mumentum they had from the start last season,and this time,they have experience,and know what to do to continue pressing forward.

Too real, Arsenal has never allowed any team win them twice and with what they played at Emirates stadium it's a clear  warning that they're not joking, just imagine in less than 21 mins 4 clean goals from Havertz, Gabriel, Saka, Martinelli , i believed Lens learnt new things during the match and my friend was like Lens will give reasons why they won Arsenal in the first leg. The gunners might likely go far but I don't know if they might win, the champions league, the competition seems tough and if any team is not prepared and ready they will be kick out.

Your claim said that Arsenal never allowed any team to win against them twice seems to be incorrect, as Manchester City proved to be a formidable opponent and consistently outperformed Arsenal in the previous season. In addition to their shortcomings in other competitions, Arsenal also experienced failures in the Europa League. That means arsenal was able losing against any team twices. Just because it was performing a bit better and you call that arsenal never allows other team to beat it twice. You will be shocking if a team like real madrid will be beating it.

Arsenal was just getting a weak group and nothing surprise when arsenal was able collecting full points from its competitors in the same group. Don't be over confidence. Arsenal ain't nothing compared to some strong clubs like real madrir or even munich.
Arteta's club was a weak team when it faces a strong club. Why didn't arsenal win europa league last season? it's caused by there was a team able to beat arsenal twice. 

[QueenVera]

Manchester United is making things difficult for themselves even though they are in a relatively easy group, only Bayern Munich is a team that is difficult for Manchester United to surpass, at least they can secure second place more quickly if they are able to maintain their performance like last season. This season's performance has disappointed many parties, including management who have spent large amounts of money to bring in quality players. MU fans will also not remain silent about the conditions experienced by their favorite team limping in the UCL, they will voice Ten Hag's dismissal for failing to meet the expectations of all parties.

As a result of wasting the opportunity that was before their eyes when they visited Galatasaray headquarters, now their chance of qualifying for the knockout rounds is very small. Galatasaray and Copenhagen will try to find a way to accompany Bayern Munich to the round of 16.

Manchester United's UCL is in a probable jeopardize state currently, If they had being at their best, then qualifying for the next round would have been very much easy for them. First Copenhagen and then Galatasaray days back, now they don't even stand a chance with Munich who'd be their final group stage opponent. For Munich, they've successfully earned a qualification spot and  Galatasaray and Copenhagen would still have to fight themselves in the last game to ensure that one of them qualifies.

 United would have had a smooth ride in this group but their current predicament has resolved them into struggling to overcome every game. Galatasaray and Copenhagen are not really much of a tough team and their player quality are not so bulky and top notch so it's safe to say they fall in the same range of abilities. We hope to see these teams get good results in their final faceoffs.

[Justbillywitt]

To get a draw is certainly a difficult thing to be hoped for Manchester United on Galatasaray vs. Copenhagen, and in that Position they must win against Bayern Munich if they want to occupy second place to continue to the last 16.
This expectation is too bad in the Manchester United match that wants to force to enter the last 16, because now it is not easy to reach, a bad season for Ten Hag if he does not compete further at UCL.

The task ahead for Manchester United is a big one honestly speaking. You know when your destiny is not in your own hand it becomes more difficult. Had it been that they held for a win in their last match things would have been different now. For me I think Manchester United is out of this tournament even if they win Bayern Munich. I don't see a chance where Copenhagen will play a draw with Galatasary.

[fullhdpixel]

Anyway, I opened the link you provided but it looks like it has been deleted by Goal.com

When Arsenal is just above Bayern Munich it is already strange and maybe it doesn't seem like this is a competent statistic. Seeing Inter's position below Arsenal is also another oddity. I feel this assessment is overrated and Arsenal are only the top team in this competition even though they are often considered strong title contenders. Maybe I would prefer to see him in 5th place and replace Inter, that would be much more appropriate for Arsenal.

Manchester United is beyond help and they are like the wind in this competition and do not reflect as one of the big teams in Europe. A 10% chance is too big, I think they only have a 0.1% chance because being able to win against Bayern Munich is an unfounded miracle.

No doubt this is strange power rating because I feel as you are Inter Milan is currently better than Arsenal and I can bring them to 5th instead of 3rd which is not suitable for them for me currently Real Madrid, Manchester City, Bayern Munich and Inter Milan are teams to watch for the title race here in this season and Arsenal is not near these teams.

Manchester United is surely having not good time just because of this they are most talked team in current time even many are calling them like garbage which is not good, but things are not good for them even coach is also now having big blunders which are costing them with last season was good, but currently they are not near any good and positive end of this season.

[Jody.Drummer]

Galatasaray and Copenhagen both want to win because they both have the same chance of qualifying from the group phase, while Manchester United must win against Bayern and have to wait for the results of the matches from Galatasaray and Copenhagen.
So I think everything is possible here and Manchester United still has a chance to qualify even though the percentage is quite small.

Being a team whose fate is determined by the results of the matches of other teams is certainly an unpleasant thing and that is what Manchester United will experience. Winning against Bayern Munich even though this looks impossible will be in vain if Copenhagen or Galasataray win in the sixth match, even if their chance to being able to get a third place is also quite difficult so this may be a quiet bad season for Erik Ten Haag at Manchester United and seeing United make a coaching change at the end of the season is very wide open because the owner is dissatisfied with what is happening at his club.
From Copenhagen and Galatasaray, the team that will qualify, Galatasaray's chances are quite big even though their last match will be at home to Copenhagen

I agree that depending on the fate of other clubs is something that is very disappointing, and that will be experienced by Manchester United at this time. Manchester United can be said to only depend on luck now seeing such a reality. Because if they win against Bayern Munich, then if Galatasaray or Copenhagen one of them can win then it will not make them qualify, only maybe they will be in the Europa League play offs. But still it is something difficult, even their opponent this time is Bayern Munich which we know what their strength is like.

[piebeyb]

This makes it even more troublesome and I think for now don't make too high expectations because for Manchester United to qualify for the next phase in the Champions League is a very difficult mission and they must try to let go of it now and accept the results that this season they failed.

Manchester United won't be able to qualify, even though the possibility is small, they are not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they still have a lot to improve in their squad because in my opinion they should focus more on the EPL and improve their position so they don't get worse. in the domestic league, they can still have the opportunity to get another UCL ticket next season.

Of course they need more time to overhaul everything to make it better next season, I'm also not sure from the start they can qualify from the group because it looks like there are a lot of things they are not ready to face in the UCL this season, whatever it is, Manchester United still needs to learn a lot more. much more from every defeat they experience and improve it afterwards to become a better team.

[Weawant]

Manchester united are actually well aware of a solution to their problems but they do tend to shy away from the main issue and try to believe that things will get better which I know it won't and instead it will even get worse because this team is just something else. They playing form is currently fluctuating and most of the players here are just looking for a way to get rid of the arrogant coach ten hag.

For the rating of arsenal and inter Milan, well it's obviously clear that arsenal are playing more better despite the fact that inter were runners up last season. But the only thing is that inter Milan might get a better of the gunners maybe due to hard style of play.

The problem with Manchester united is beyond just the coach even if he happens to be a key figure in the gate befalling Manchester united currently but then it's obvious they can actually not do much because so much power have already been delivered into his hands.

Ten hang knows how much influence he has on the team as granted him by the team owners and that why he stays arrogant and wouldn't come down from his high horse any soon.  Arsenal no doubts is doing so well this season except for some inconsistency which lays around their performance but then I wouldn't want to compare them with inter Milans las season performance because currently they are doing almost better than inter is doing this season.

[Richbased]

I bring to you all the teams that made it to the UEFA Champions league round of 16 or rather the knockout stages recently:
1. Manchester City   
2. FC Porto
3. Borussia Dortmund
4. Barcelona
5. RB Leipzig
6. Arsenal
7. Real Madrid
8. Atletico Madrid
9. Lazio Roma
10. Real sociedad
11. Inter Milan
12. Bayern Munich

The above mentioned clubs have been confirmed as being qualified for the champions league next round as they've performed excellently well in their various groups hence their ability to move to the next stages of the competition. Though the group stages look quite easy for some big teams because they met less competitive teams in their groups, so this round of sixteen will definitely unveil the most stronger clubs from the others as there's gonna be more of competition and drama of some big teams losing out to advance to the next level of the competition. We keep our fingers crossed as we await the resumption of the next round of the competition after the final matches of the group stage.

[redsun114]

It was quite unbelievable to see how Manchester United messed up their Uefa Chamions League campaign this season by playing so badly despite being placed in a much easier group with only Bayern Munich being the most difficult team to handle. With only 4 points earned in Group A, Manchester United fans could only hope there will not be a match winner between FC Copenhagen and Galatasaray in the next upcoming final group match. Manchester United will also need to beat Bayern Munich at the stadium of Old Trafford to stand a chance to qualify for the next stage of the tournament.

At first I thought that Group A belonged to Bayern Munich and Manchester United but in reality Manchester United continue to face difficulties so they lost when face the 3 club in group A. I didn't expect Manchester United to experience a significant decline this season and it look likes Manchester United there is no chances of qualifying for the rounds of 16 and does not qualify for the play-off round in the European League because Manchester United is at the bottom and only has the fewest point.

in the next match I am not sure whether Manchester United will be able to beat Bayern Munich even though they are play at home, Bayern Munich is a team thats is not easy to beat but if Bayern Munich is will to be merciful and give in to make Manchester United win then Manchester United can have a chance to qualify for round of 16, but that's if Bayern Munich feels sorry for Erik Ten Hag team but that what happen if no one wins the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match.

In this season, we have two English teams which are giving shocking performance in Champions League Manchester United and Newcastle United as mostly were feeling good about them, but sadly they are topping from down and Newcastle United which was in death group still alive for the next round even they are also having chances for the going into Europa Cup but still done good job. Manchester United is surely having big disappointment as they are currently the worst team in this group and things are not going good for them which is really sad.

Now can they hang with Bayern Munich in last match It's really not easy even in last game at home Bayern Munich was not good but still things have never been easy for the Manchester United to have win at home against them and go through for the second match result in cast of win by any team they still have no chance.

[$anounimus$]

This makes it even more troublesome and I think for now don't make too high expectations because for Manchester United to qualify for the next phase in the Champions League is a very difficult mission and they must try to let go of it now and accept the results that this season they failed.

Manchester United won't be able to qualify, even though the possibility is small, they are not really ready to be in the UCL this season, they still have a lot to improve in their squad because in my opinion they should focus more on the EPL and improve their position so they don't get worse. in the domestic league, they can still have the opportunity to get another UCL ticket next season.

Of course they need more time to overhaul everything to make it better next season, I'm also not sure from the start they can qualify from the group because it looks like there are a lot of things they are not ready to face in the UCL this season, whatever it is, Manchester United still needs to learn a lot more. much more from every defeat they experience and improve it afterwards to become a better team.

If Manchester United fails to qualify for the knockout phase then Erik Ten Hag's credibility should be questioned. The Red Devils management has given the man from the Netherlands quite a lot of money to build the team. Of course, the expectations of management and fans are certainly very high, especially since they really want to win again in the Champions League. In fact, if we look at the group draw, Manchester United's chances of qualifying are quite large, but the results obtained are very far from expectations. I think Erik Ten Hag should be given an ultimatum immediately and if his performance doesn't improve then he deserves to be dismissed.