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December 03, 2023, 08:49:37 PM
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Anything is possible, but not in this case with Man United, and which angle of possibility are you talking about?
Bayern Munich in talk is inform and hasn't lost any of their games in the group stage match, even from record, Manchester United hardly win Bayern, Manchester United in quote is not inform both in their performance in the Premier League and in the championship league games, they are currently in the bottom of the table in the Championship league group stage game and are facing Bayern in their last game, whereas Galatasaray and Copenhagen are meeting, and both teams are ahead of United in points, so any of the team that won in their game, it over for United even though it magically happened that Man Utd won the German side Bayern.
On paper, Bayern Munich's performance is not in doubt, but considering that they are safe from qualifying and leading the group, I think they will not be shy about keeping some of their best players. Bayern Munich will be favorites to win the game if they play their best squad, but if they don't then Manchester United are the favorites.

I'm not sure why you are so pessimistic about Manchester United in their home game, but of course they have to work extra hard to win the game. Bayern Munich will still try to avoid defeat and maintain its winning record, but this is not an impossible mission for Manchester United.

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December 03, 2023, 08:53:23 PM
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Every fighter has their core strength area where they exact their strength, dominance and authority. As far as the Champions League is concerned, PSG possess enough authority than Newcastle United. Newcastle United in recent time doesn't have any feather to their hair in the champions league, unlike PSG who has been consistent in the champions league over a decade.

When the pressure is much, it is Newcastle that will now and not PSG. Before now Newcastle was devastated by series of injuries but the return of Isak who joined forces with Almiron has boosted Newcastle performance. I will need to state that for Newcastle United to succeed, they will need to perform more than what they did against Chelsea. They really need to be strong and consistent throughout the 90mins.

No matter how consistent PSG are in the champions league (in appearance) they're still weak when they come to face a team that has the same strength as them. And with that alone it shows that the PSG side are never a good competitors, they're just there to complete the number of teams in the UCL.
Honestly the injury Newcastle had didn't really affect them instead they became stronger than before, but is best to have your complete team than losing them to injury. Chelsea has never been a better team compared some other teams Newcastle has faced especially PSG, so I'd give Newcastle a thumbs up for their recent performance.

Well, personally, I think something, I like Newcastle, I think Newcastle has shown a lot, I have a lot of faith in Newcastle, and to be clearer for me, Newcastle is much more of a team than PSG itself, PSG already or It is the same as last season, now they no longer have stars, only Mbappé, and he cannot do everything, so if we can see that the Newcastle is better integrated, it knows how to take advantage of its opportunities very well to make any balanced and good movement, I think that is what matters here, PSG does pass, I think they will get it and it will be easy, but from there it doesn't happen anymore, I see stronger teams, I couldn't make comparisons with PSG's game, because PSG does. It is so strong, it should have passed seven teams like a steamroller, but they couldn't and 1 point is a great point, let's remember that here in the UCL there are only the best that pass, and for me among the best is not PSG In Ligue 1 it is something else, for me they are different competitions.

For now I recognize what they have remembered , because if we look at the data and the performances they showed at the beginning of Ligue 1 it was devastating, really very disappointing how they played, I think that if there are teams that believe it in Ligue 1 they can beat PSG and without much effort, because PSG, as I said, for me it is not as good as last season and last season with the help of Messi and they could not win the UCL , so just to see that type of Statistics, although The circumstances are very different and although I don't like Making those types of comparisons, it is not the same, for me the PSG is much weaker compared to last season, and that is what I see for now, I don't know if I disagree with anyone more, but the style of football and the game that they are showing, at least to me, does not convince me, I see teams in the UCL that do have a very high bar, and have shown great Football.

Truthfully, Im not holding my breath waiting for Manchester United to do something amazing. Theres no reason to be optimistic about their chances this season based on their past performances. They've been losing to Brighton, Tottenham, and even Arsenal. Nobody is doing well, not just the big names like Bayern Munich. Honestly, they couldnt even beat Copenhagen and Galatasaray at home. Its not likely that they will quickly recover against Bayern. The club needs to rethink its approach and maybe even its leadership. We were looking for change from Ten Hag, but it hasnt happened yet, and its been months. He might give up for good on the last day of the UCL soccer games.

Hell of course not... No confession and sincerity needed to say that Manchester United is rubbish this season, and in my honest (Tongue) opinion, they were also trash last season. But many other teams were trash and then it came down to who is most trash and who is least trash and for some reason Manchester United managed to be less trash than Tottenham, Liverpool and Chelsea. That is how they got into the Champions League. It certainly wasn't because of impressive performances and great coaching by ten Hag.

Guys, you have to understand something, I have said it since last season, who you have to remove is the coach, Ten Hag doesn't do anything well, I don't understand why they are so worried about understanding him, I'm sure that with another coach the team I would do better, they have been losing for a long time, they don't win anything, they have the opportunity to win, to be able to excel in a great way and they don't do it, they can't do it, I don't Understand these things, and the solution may be there, but basically things can happen for the better if ´pel is not there, as it can be understood that Garnacho, Bruno, Antony, nothing more with them is so that they are fighting for a good position, a position among the first, and that is not the case, in Europe League they couldn't, against a Galatasaray in the CL they couldn't, is it because they are very bad, and they still think that it is due to lack of a better goalkeeper? another striker? That neither with Haaland, nor with Messi, Mbappé in the ranks of the MU with the leadership of Ten Hag , they still lose, and I bet and I do not lose that it is like that.

Until the Club understands that the MU's mistake is the Coach , they will not be Able to get out of the hole they are in. It is very difficult for many to understand this, I honestly don't know why they think Ten Hag does it well? One thing, It is what he has done in Ajax and the Dutch League, but what they do right now in the PL is very different , they are in the best league of all, until now things are like this, and it would be a shame if things were to change , Well, I see that the one who puts all his heart into him is Bruno and Garanacho himself, who when he scores goals celebrates like the "bug" and under which Ten Hag himself complained to him , this Type of thing in a team Should not be allowed , then in the event that the MU continues to maintain that technique, they will not achieve anything, and it is a shame for the players , because they all dream of reaching the top of their leagues, of a UCL , everything Dreams They dream of doing it well, but with good leadership, but that is not the case as they are.

Marcus Rashford dubbed "petulant" by Man Utd legend as Erik ten Hag plans crisis talks



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Marcus Rashford's miserable season has suffered another blow, with Manchester United legend Steve Bruce aiming a furious rant at the under-fire striker.

The Red Devils suffered their 10th defeat of the season across all competitions on Saturday night when they were beaten 1-0 by Newcastle at St. James' Park. Anthony Gordon's 55th minute strike was enough to see off a United side that were second best for the entirety of the clash with a performance that will undoubtedly concern Erik ten Hag.

Rashford was one of the most anonymous United players and was withdrawn just after the hour mark, before looking particularly frustrated as he watched on from the bench. The England international has just two goals to his name so far this term and has now been offered some words of wisdom from ex-Red Devil Bruce.

Source: https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/manutd-rashford-bruce-tenhag-newcastle-31587798

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December 03, 2023, 08:58:39 PM
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Considering United just got a loss against Newcastle as well, it's quite possible that they will end up being fourth in the group, that seems like the likely result. Of course this depends on Bayern a bit as well, Bayern could just play the weak bench and not really care for the game, some young future potential players and all, which could definitely be a trouble for them if they are not careful, but most of the time it looks like we are going to end up with a good result one way or another.
Manchester United's inconsistency will undoubtedly have an impact on their Champions League group stage qualification; they now have a very low chance of qualifying because they are not putting in the effort in their performances, and they also lose a Premier League game they should have won to boost their confidence, but they squandered the opportunity and played like an average team against Newcastle United.

Looking at the current conditions Manchester United's chances even look non-existent in my opinion because however trying to win against Bayern in the last match and expecting Galatasaray and Copenhagen to draw in the last match is a little difficult to do.
Indeed it can be a thing that can happen but with Manchester United's situation to win against Bayern it is a little complicated with their current situation.

Some problems can still be felt by Manchester United in terms of performance. Their defence is not going too well and neither is the attack. On the other hand the midfield also they always lose duels which makes this even more difficult.
I don't think you can expect anything big in the United camp at the moment.


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December 03, 2023, 09:36:45 PM
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Considering United just got a loss against Newcastle as well, it's quite possible that they will end up being fourth in the group, that seems like the likely result. Of course this depends on Bayern a bit as well, Bayern could just play the weak bench and not really care for the game, some young future potential players and all, which could definitely be a trouble for them if they are not careful, but most of the time it looks like we are going to end up with a good result one way or another.

I mean think about it, we are talking about a team that already guaranteed their first place, so who knows. Even with that case, I still feel like United may not end up getting a win, at best a draw, and I am sure that they are going to be have trouble, best case would be Europa I guess, second place is long gone if you calculate it, so it is not going to happen.
It is obvious to the blind how horrible Manchester United has been in the champions league this season. I mean their performance can be rated as fair in the English premier League but it is very poor in the champions league to the extent that I wished they gave another English club the opportunity to represent  Grin
Manchester United qualification has no much thing to do with Bayern Munich according to my own analysis. Manchester United can win Bayern Munich considering that Bayern has a whopping 13 points for themselves. Where the problem lies is, will Galatasary and Copenhagen agree to play draw?

Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
What I have learnt about Sevilla is to write them out in any competition in this world but not to write them out in the Europa League competition. I have made the mistake of underrating them twice in the Europa League even when they were also not in form but they proved me wrong. Sevilla might be playing boring matches now, just allow them to mistakenly have a place in the Europa League, you will see a different Sevilla entirely.

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December 03, 2023, 10:30:20 PM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.

Manchester United have already lost the opportunity to qualify for the champions league next round which is the knockout stage of the competition. They had all the chances in their past matches but they didn’t utilize them well and had to still be on the bottom of their group stage table. Bayern Munich is a no go area for them and they can’t win them, and Galatasaray and Copenhagen match will not even get to end in a draw, so Manchester United are going to exit the competition this time without doubt.

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This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

It is just a matter of time but Eric Ten Hag will not remain in that managerial position till next year. If by the end of this season there’s nothing productive from him, he will be sacked by the Manchester United management and a new replacement will follow suit immediately. He has from now till that time to improve the team, hope he does something and make a change to the performance of the players in the field.

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December 03, 2023, 10:40:59 PM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
What I have learnt about Sevilla is to write them out in any competition in this world but not to write them out in the Europa League competition. I have made the mistake of underrating them twice in the Europa League even when they were also not in form but they proved me wrong. Sevilla might be playing boring matches now, just allow them to mistakenly have a place in the Europa League, you will see a different Sevilla entirely.

Playing in the Europa League is not the same as the Champions League at all and they should understand it in Sevilla, Sevilla is known for the performance they have in the Europa League but this team can't have a good performance in the Europa League, that's maybe a good reason to say Sevilla should not even think about the Champions League and the are better to focus on La Liga games to get in the better situation there.

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December 03, 2023, 11:21:00 PM
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Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Eric Ten Hag's performance as team manager has been underwhelming for some time. Manchester United continues to lose games in both the domestic league and the European competition in which they compete. If competency was the issue, Eric Ten Hag failed miserably and should be replaced as soon as possible.  Manchester United will exit the Champions League after finishing last in their group, which is a huge disappointment given the teams in their group who did not allow them to qualify for the Champions League knockout stage.

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December 03, 2023, 11:26:35 PM
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Even though the situation is very difficult, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16. The only way for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 is to win against Bayer Munchen and hope that the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. Even though it's tough, in football anything can happen.
I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.


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December 03, 2023, 11:30:08 PM
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Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Eric Ten Hag's performance as team manager has been underwhelming for some time. Manchester United continues to lose games in both the domestic league and the European competition in which they compete. If competency was the issue, Eric Ten Hag failed miserably and should be replaced as soon as possible.  Manchester United will exit the Champions League after finishing last in their group, which is a huge disappointment given the teams in their group who did not allow them to qualify for the Champions League knockout stage.
At this group stage, Manchester united have underperformed greatly and this will affect their overall performance in the coming round of this season, haven't finished group stage at below top 5 clubs, this is so saddened to the point that even if the Manchester United management decides to get in some new energetic players to help push the club to it desired position,  it won't achieve much still, this is because the club need a total overhaul of the management and the team, haven't to reorganized the clubs and getting the best hand on the desk to change the phase of the club in the coming seasons.
If not, if the club continues this way, it may likely end relegation in the next couple of years from now, and if that is the case, it will become practically impossible for Manchester United to test the Champions leagues trophy any time in this decade.

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December 04, 2023, 04:42:35 AM
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I think it's pointless to give Manchester United any confidence of coming out successfully from the group stage to the next stage, even Europa is not guarantee right now in this stage but I know that it's not a good thing to give up even when there is no hope. If Manchester United comes out of this creepy hole and make a good way to the Champions League, trust me they will go far after that because they will be the most luckiest team to come far after all the gimmick that is surrounding them.

Erik Ten need to do better and scold players when necessary, he is always defending Onana but I get his reason, he doesn't want to be judge for making bad decisions about the player he thinks was better than David De Gea but I still prefer De Gea over any goalkeeper that Manchester United and Ten Hag will bring to that team.
It is too much to give confidence to Manchester United in conditions like this and qualifying for the next round depends on the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match and Manchester United having to win the match against Bayern Munich is something that is impossible. It will be quite difficult for Manchester United to qualify for the next round with a scenario like this and I am very pessimistic that Erik Ten Hak will be able to do it. There are even rumors circulating that a number of players are starting to have problems with the coach, especially because the players are difficult to manage and are often disobedient.

We have to admit that the draw that Manchester United got in the Champions League was because of Onana's blunder and that happened many times in different matches. If Erik Ten Hak doesn't put pressure on the main goalkeeper then don't expect Manchester United to win and be successful. This is different from De Gea last season because he didn't make many mistakes and it was purely because of other weaknesses in the defense and midfield areas.

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December 04, 2023, 06:24:55 AM
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Playing in the Europa League is not the same as the Champions League at all and they should understand it in Sevilla, Sevilla is known for the performance they have in the Europa League but this team can't have a good performance in the Europa League, that's maybe a good reason to say Sevilla should not even think about the Champions League and the are better to focus on La Liga games to get in the better situation there.

Sevilla certainly understands that, even targeting getting third place in group B doesn't seem like it anymore because Lens only need to draw to be able to play in the European league play offs, but it looks like Sevilla will still find it difficult to be the better team in Laliga even though they are no longer playing. in European competition, because they have shown a decline since last season, only winning the European League covered their weaknesses last season, but this season they are still a bad team and it is difficult to improve.

I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.
Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.

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December 04, 2023, 07:03:39 AM
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Even though the situation is very difficult, Manchester United still has a chance to qualify for the round of 16. The only way for Manchester United to qualify for the last 16 is to win against Bayer Munchen and hope that the match between Copenhagen vs Galatasaray ends in a draw. Even though it's tough, in football anything can happen.
I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.

Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.

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December 04, 2023, 07:18:36 AM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.

I think it's pointless to give Manchester United any confidence of coming out successfully from the group stage to the next stage, even Europa is not guarantee right now in this stage but I know that it's not a good thing to give up even when there is no hope. If Manchester United comes out of this creepy hole and make a good way to the Champions League, trust me they will go far after that because they will be the most luckiest team to come far after all the gimmick that is surrounding them.

Erik Ten need to do better and scold players when necessary, he is always defending Onana but I get his reason, he doesn't want to be judge for making bad decisions about the player he thinks was better than David De Gea but I still prefer De Gea over any goalkeeper that Manchester United and Ten Hag will bring to that team.

Erik Ten Hag should not mix business up with feelings, Some certain players are not working hard and will lead to him being sacked. Do you also feel like he's gradually losing control of the dressing room? There are player's that needs to leave the club honestly, they have played from the time of Jose Mourinho till date they all need to be part of the so called rebuild shit.

For the Champions League, they shouldn't even go.for the Europa League Competition, instead of that they should be knockout completely. Manchester United can only qualify with luck and God Grace!!

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December 04, 2023, 07:27:42 AM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.

0 chance for sevilla to be qualified. Im not expecting a lot from this guy. In fact, sevilla is also having the last chance to get into the europa league as long as it will be able to beat lens. This is another hard task that must be done by 5 times europa league winner.
Will sevilla back to the europa league? maybe yes, maybe no. We will know the answer later. Sevilla needs also to put its focus into the la liga caused by it has horrible performance.

I don't know what things that made sevilla played so badly in any competitions. Is there something wrong with the club? Time will tell us.
The new coach seems unable to bring up the performance sevilla again. It seems like the gamble to replace mendilibar was a flop. Sevilla could give mendilibar more time before try to sack him.
So, sevilla used the same trick when it was sacking the coach before mendilibar. Sevilal

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December 04, 2023, 07:42:43 AM
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Wow! It seems like Sevilla won't be able to qualify for Europa League knockout stage this time. Because to be able to do this they have to win against Lens. There is no other way to do it.

But can they? Honestly I'm not a believer here. Sevilla have been horrible throughout the group stage. They have got 0 win until now. It was almost like they were beating PSV home in their last game though. However that red card brought Sevilla's end very quickly by a big comeback from PSV. Lens aren't a competitor to be underestimated. They even beat Arsenal home and I wouldn't take them on against Sevilla for certain. But both teams to score could be a nice option to bet on.
Yes there is no other choice but they must win this match if they want to be in the Europa League play offs. But I'd say they're a bit unlucky here, as by the time they get to victory they'll be facing a team that's in similar trouble, although overall Lens are better than Sevilla. But Lens also still have a chance to qualify for the last 16, with a note that they must win and PSV must lose badly to Arsenal. While PSV only needs a draw to qualify for the round of 16.

I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.

Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.
That focus must be done by Manchester United at this time, they do not need to see the results of the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, what they have to do is how they win this match. Although their fate is in the hands of the results of the 2 teams, but for me it will depend on their luck, whether they will have that much luck to see Galatasaray vs Copenhagen draw or not.
I don't know for sure whether Bayern Munich want to tackle Manchster United or not, because if you look at their previous results, they are not too ambitious to win, but I don't know in this match.

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December 04, 2023, 07:57:45 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
Manchester United doesn't stand a chance against Bayern Munich because the way they have been playing lately is nothing compared to Bayern Munich performance because even considering there last meeting, Bayern Munich was able to beat them so there is every possibility that Bayern Munich is still going to beat them again on there next meeting so I don't think Manchester United stands a chance of qualifying from there group although if it was clubs like Galatasaray or Copenhagen I would have said there is a possibility of qualifying, but to win Bayern Munich I don't think is possible for them.

However for the second I'm seeing Copenhagen qualifying because they have a high chance of wining Galatasaray and also considering were they are on there group table.

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December 04, 2023, 08:38:26 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
Manchester United doesn't stand a chance against Bayern Munich because the way they have been playing lately is nothing compared to Bayern Munich performance because even considering there last meeting, Bayern Munich was able to beat them so there is every possibility that Bayern Munich is still going to beat them again on there next meeting so I don't think Manchester United stands a chance of qualifying from there group although if it was clubs like Galatasaray or Copenhagen I would have said there is a possibility of qualifying, but to win Bayern Munich I don't think is possible for them.

However for the second I'm seeing Copenhagen qualifying because they have a high chance of wining Galatasaray and also considering were they are on there group table.

I know there will be no more opportunities to get a ticket to continue for MU. But Ten Hag teachers and students need to be determined to win, even if they are eliminated. Because, after all, it is an honorable victory for their fans. With this victory, Ten Hag may continue to retain his coaching position. They have played exceptionally poorly this season. There is no more reason for them to justify their mistakes. A victory against the mighty Bayern would replace their explanation.

I don't know if Marcus Rashford will play in this match. Rashford was sent off in Man United's recent defeat to Copenhagen for fouling Elias Jerert. Hopefully, he will be present in this match because he is MU's central striker.

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December 04, 2023, 08:40:27 AM
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It is very clear that Manchester United will not qualify for the next round while the remaining matches are one game behind and worse still have to face Bayern Munich and the opportunity to continue to third place to be able to compete in the European league also seems to be very difficult for Manchester United and miracles do not happen. will be able to help this club.
This bad performance created quite a lot of pressure on Erik Ten Hag which left him with endless bad things and as long as he was given a long time the coach could not give his best and I hope that there will be a new coach who can replace Erik Ten Hag's position.
Bayern Munich have sealed a spot in next round but they won't settle for any relenting actions, rather they will look forward for a win. Manchester United will not be able to handle Bayern Munich in their last tier UEFA game in group stage. Erik Ten Hag is incompetent to lead the Red Devils this season, because his weaknesses are already there and they will suffered enough shocking defeats against elite and average clubs this season, losing in major tournaments and also recording defeats in English Premier League is discouraging results for the club.

Bayern Munich's early performance isn't surprising. They had it easy in their group, which inflated their achievement. They're through to the next round, but the true challenge begins now. Arsenal and Real Madrid won't have it easy. Bayern may struggle to sustain form against these harder opponents. Dominating a weaker group is different from facing the heavyweights. Let's discuss Manchester United. They've disappointed, and Ten Hag's tactics aren't working. It's heartbreaking to see a legendary club failing. They need management and tactics changes, not simply new players. If nothing changes soon, United's top-tier future is bleak.

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December 04, 2023, 09:06:51 AM
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Yes, it's not over for Manchester United, but what is the percentage for Manchester United to beat Bayern Munich to open up a chance of qualifying? I think it's very small even though they can win against Bayern Munich but their fate will still be determined by the result of the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match, so Manchester United fans have to be realistic and accept if they are eliminated and that would be good so they can focus more on the English Premier League.
I agree with you, if Manchester united eventually win Bayern probably because bayern use theirs rotational payers knowing how risk free this match is to them and it turns in favour of Manchester united, they will still hope Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray.

If either of both Galatasaray or Copenhagen wins then Manchester united have no chance because they will be ahead of Manchester, the only option will be Manchester going to the Europa which I don't think they will still have a chance at with their current form because at the Europa they will be meeting the links of Leverkusen and Liverpool, so basically they should focus on the premier league and making sure to qualify for for UCL next season.

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December 04, 2023, 09:12:27 AM
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I agree with you. Although the situation is getting difficult for Man United but the chance isn't over yet. Winning against Bayern Munich isn't impossible if Bayern Munich won't play with their main players and with serious efforts. Bayern Munich possibly use their second tier players because they already qualified for the next round. I think Bayern Munich will prefer to let their main players to take a rest. Meanwhile for the match Copenhagen vs Galatasaray, it is difficult to predict the result of the match. But it is surely not impossible to end with a draw. If both teams play all out, a draw can be the reasonable result.
Bayern Munich will likely form their second tier squad. Even so, Manchester United's chances of winning are  slim, even with Bayern Munich's second-tier squad. Their defense is quite weak. On the other hand, Bayern  Munich plays attacking strategy. Manchester  United's defense is unlikely to  improve in front of Bayern Munich's attack. I don't think United will win this match. But  since the match is not important  for Bayern Munich. So the match is likely to be a draw. Bayern Munich drew goalless against Copenhagen.
That focus must be done by Manchester United at this time, they do not need to see the results of the Galatasaray vs Copenhagen match, what they have to do is how they win this match. Although their fate is in the hands of the results of the 2 teams, but for me it will depend on their luck, whether they will have that much luck to see Galatasaray vs Copenhagen draw or not.
I don't know for sure whether Bayern Munich want to tackle Manchster United or not, because if you look at their previous results, they are not too ambitious to win, but I don't know in this match.

Manchester United  still have a chance  to qualify for the  next round. But  for this they must win. They need to get 3 points against Bayern Munich. At the same time, Manchester United can  qualify for the round of 16 only if the match between Galatasaray and Copenhagen is a draw.

Manchester United have not won a single match in their last 5  meetings against Bayern Munich. They have lost all 4 matches and United managed to draw only one match. That is why the probability of Manchester United winning against Bayern Munich is very low, even though the match is not important for Munich. Even though Munich's second-tier squad plays in this match, I consider the Munich team to be the favourites.

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