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December 07, 2023, 12:00:25 PM
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A striker does need a good supply of balls that he can then utilize into a goal. A player cannot work alone, especially if it is an attacker who gets a lot of care from the opposing defender.
Maybe we can see Haaland at Manchester City, yes he is very good at finishing attacks, but don't forget that he also gets a very good supply from Manchester City midfielders, one of them from KDB. An attacking organizer will determine the fate of an attacker.
Pep Guardiola have already arranged his squads and they do actually deserved all the major trophies they're winning this present day because they worked years to build up the club to become one of the very best clubs in the English Premier League football. Clubs like Manchester City have a strong solid midfield with playmaker making down to feed the frontlines with key long and short passes to elevate them to score goals. But with the absence of these basic players, I've no idea what's happening to Manchester City, going three games without a win in EPL is absurd and all fingers points to something is wrong somewhere in the squad.

Previously, Tottenham had to recognize Aston Villa's strength and now Man City has finally tasted defeat from Aston Villa. Honestly, this was hard to expect but Aston Villa provided a surprise.
what surprised many people was that there weren't many balls pushed forward to create chances. maybe something happened in the squad. but the impact of the absence of several players should not change Man City's game too much.
how could Man City's strength seem to be waning?
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December 07, 2023, 12:07:53 PM
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Atletico Madrid have done a really great work in the group stage until now. They will probably finish the stage as the leader as I think that they would beat Lazio home in their last group game. They have been impressive statistically also because they have 3.0 goal average per game at the moment. Considering that they don't have a too easy group this is really good.

I mean that Celtic is of course the weakest link here. They couldn't do anything good until now and they don't even have a chance left for the Europa League.

But Lazio and Feyenoord haven't been easy competitors for Atletico Madrid.
One step closer for Atletico Madrid have perfect work in group stage regarding one match left their top position not secure yet depend on the last match result, indeed have been qualified to next round but finish on first place will have easy opponent teams on knock out round with drawing against teams who finish on second place other group stage. Currently Group E of UEFA Champion League is easily group for Atletico Madrid and Lazio because both teams left many points behind Feyenoord on 3rd place, Celtic become most weakness team in this group without winning one match yet.

Next match Atletico Madrid vs Lazio, actually both teams have been qualified to next round what ever the result on last match but have chance for each other to finish on top place. Lazio can take Atletico Madrid top standings if can win last match.

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December 07, 2023, 12:13:30 PM
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A striker does need a good supply of balls that he can then utilize into a goal. A player cannot work alone, especially if it is an attacker who gets a lot of care from the opposing defender.
Maybe we can see Haaland at Manchester City, yes he is very good at finishing attacks, but don't forget that he also gets a very good supply from Manchester City midfielders, one of them from KDB. An attacking organizer will determine the fate of an attacker.
Pep Guardiola have already arranged his squads and they do actually deserved all the major trophies they're winning this present day because they worked years to build up the club to become one of the very best clubs in the English Premier League football. Clubs like Manchester City have a strong solid midfield with playmaker making down to feed the frontlines with key long and short passes to elevate them to score goals. But with the absence of these basic players, I've no idea what's happening to Manchester City, going three games without a win in EPL is absurd and all fingers points to something is wrong somewhere in the squad.
This is a very normal thing for a football team with ups and downs in their performance. It must be admitted that Pep Guardiola has built Manchester City very strong, but that doesn't mean they will easily win all the trophies because other teams are also developing to be better. especially this season there has been no improvement in the quality of the Manchester City team so that several other top European teams continue to experience development and this threatens the Manchester City team.
What Manchester City is currently experiencing is inseparable from injuries to several of their main pillars and there are no supporting players who are able to cover it.

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December 07, 2023, 12:16:27 PM
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They must win against Bayern while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw and that is not an easy matter.
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.

I just think that it is possible that Galatasaray will qualify for the group accompanying Munich because of course Manchester United will not succeed. But even if they qualify or not, Manchester United still have to play as hard as possible and not suffer another defeat in this last match which will also determine whether they qualify or not.
The situation Man Utd is facing in the UCL is really not easy. Because well even if they win against Bayern then it won't guarantee they can qualify for the Round of 16. Because it takes luck to see the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match end in a draw. I also feel that there won't be a draw in this match. Galatasaray or Copenhagen is actually difficult for us to predict which team will be superior. But if it turns out that Man United can qualify for the next stage then that will be a miracle in the world of football. Because beating Bayern is also very difficult. But in this match Man Utd had an advantage because they played at Old Trafford. Well, at least mentally the Man Utd players should remain superior.
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December 07, 2023, 12:31:49 PM
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They must win against Bayern while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw and that is not an easy matter.
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.

I just think that it is possible that Galatasaray will qualify for the group accompanying Munich because of course Manchester United will not succeed. But even if they qualify or not, Manchester United still have to play as hard as possible and not suffer another defeat in this last match which will also determine whether they qualify or not.
It can be done if Manchester United win against Bayern and Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray indirectly they will definitely qualify because they are 1 point ahead of Copenhagen and Galatasaray but if they win but one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins then they will only be in the Europa League but another possibility if Manchester United lose or draw then they will only be at the bottom of the standings without being able to say much for the Champions League this season.

I personally wouldn't expect too much actually but of course Manchester United winning is very good just that Bayern don't want to lose their unbeaten record in the group phase.
Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.

Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.

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December 07, 2023, 12:46:54 PM
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It is interesting to see that Manchester United will lose qualifying to the round of 16 in this season of the Champions league even when from the Group A table, it was easier for us to predict Bayern and Manchester United to scale through to the next challenge in the table, unfortunately and unlucky for Manchester United, they are at the bottom of the table with just a 4 points meaning they have only won 1 match and draw in 1. The rest have been failure upon failure.

I didn't really envisaged the efforts that Copenhagen and Galatasaray will put into the games most especially that of the Copenhagen and was just looking at the two elite clubs but as football will have it, this is not the case and that's why there is beauty in football. Your expectations sometimes are beaten by the reality of things on the pitch and every team is bracing up by the day to become stronger and more challenging, so you don't have issues of monopoly of clubs or the likes.
In my opinion, Man United deserved not to qualify because now doesn't seem like the right time. With the club in disarray and lacking support, from players to coaches, failure in the UCL should have dealt a major blow. Ten Hag couldn't push himself, his players had a lot of injuries. Even though today they won over Chelsea, that is not something that can be used as a benchmark. Their opponent was Bayern Munich and there were no gaps that Tenhag could exploit, Bayern Munich strength was in better condition, more stable and more intimidating to face.

Regarding Copenhagen and Galatasaray, they definitely don't want to just share points because it will give Man United an opportunity. So I hope one of them can achieve victory.

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December 07, 2023, 01:47:56 PM
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Barcelona has always failed to qualify for the group phase in the last two seasons, or more precisely when Lionel Messi left Camp Nou, so Xavi was asked to focus more on overcoming this problem so as not to fail again. This season, Barcelona has confirmed that they will qualify for the next round even though there is still one match left in the group phase and this is what the management and fans hope for.

This season is lucky for Barcelona because they are in a group that is not as tough as the last 2 seasons. This season Barcelona has pocketed enough points and is certain to qualify as group H winners.
It's only natural that Barcelona in the previous 2 seasons failed to qualify from the group stage, not only because they lost Messi, but also because in those 2 seasons they always had quite strong opponents from one group, whereas this season Barcelona was lucky to be able to get a group with clubs that were not too strong, so The opportunity to qualify for the next round is now within reach.
It's just that I still doubt whether Barca's journey will continue to the final round or will just stop after always losing in the round of 16.
I'm not doubting Barcelona, I'm just saying the fact that Barcelona needs quality players to be able to compete competitively in the Champions League.

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December 07, 2023, 02:02:41 PM
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To be fair it could very well be because of the team as well, Lewandowski is not playing just 1v1 football on some street, its 11v11 and maybe the team is not giving him the balls that he needs. When you do not pass to a player like him properly, then you end up with a bad result from him, he can't give you the goals you need if you just make him find the score himself, you need to pass him at the right time which is a team thing. I believe that he has done wonderful last year because they really relied on him last year, but this season they are playing other players that can score too, which results with those players trying to shoot more often, and gives him less passes he can finish.
A striker does need a good supply of balls that he can then utilize into a goal. A player cannot work alone, especially if it is an attacker who gets a lot of care from the opposing defender.
Maybe we can see Haaland at Manchester City, yes he is very good at finishing attacks, but don't forget that he also gets a very good supply from Manchester City midfielders, one of them from KDB. An attacking organizer will determine the fate of an attacker.


Now I agree with you on that. The players will have to give Robert Lewandowski the ball at the right time to score. But the thing is, now he will start missing some because he is not in his prime anymore. He is getting older and older day by day. I am not saying he is bad or useless already. Barcelona also cannot afford to bring in a better striker for more amount of money. At this point, I actually want Barcelona to sell him to the Saudi league for a huge amount of money and get a good striker for that money who will be younger. But the problem is some young players will probably not want to go to Barcelona unless they really like Barcelona because, at Barcelona, the future is quite uncertain.

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Even if you consider this chance for Manchester United to win the game against Bayern Munich and get qualified in this group to pass the stage, but Manchester United is not a team in the good situation to have any chance in this tournament during this season and I think it's better for Ten Hag to focus on the Premer League instead of that.

The focus of the Red Devils is to earn another solid spot in UEFA Champions League next season and qualifying for next round in UCL this season, that alone will boosts their performance against mediocre teams and also elite clubs. Manchester united have misused their chances of qualifying for the next phase of the UEFA Champions League and now they have a die-hard job to win  Bayern Munich in the last leg of group stage match. Erik Ten Hag will only attempt to beat Thomas Tuchel but he will not lack the necessary strategies to implement against such an elite Bundesliga giant.

I think, Manchester united coach is trying his best to improve the team to stand on a solid ground in this champions league competition to make people believe that he is capable to lead the team to embrace the title in this season, but it will be difficult for Bayern Munich to allow the dream of Manchester united to come true in their next match. Manchester united has four points which they are expecting Galatasaray to draw with their opponent so that they will have the opportunity to qualify from the group, and it will be difficult for such mistakes to happen in this period that many teams want to qualify from their various groups. It was a beautiful victory for Manchester united to defeated Chelsea 2-1 in the premier league competition to prove to people that they are still stronger than Chelsea despite the challenges they are facing in this season.

Ten hag is always trying to do his best to make sure manchester united will always be able to climbing up. The only problem if sometimes you can't even expect if there was a problem occured to the players. Glad to see that the players who were always getting blamed by the fans are performing so crazily at the middle of season. I must be named all of them and they are meguire and tominay. Even meguire has become a player of the month and this proves that if those dudes are still very important for the club.

Manchester united was almost kicking him from the club in the last summer transfer season. Anything is still remain unpredictable in the football. You can say that if manchester united was doing very important thing but in fact if it is also performing so perfect right now.
People are unable predicting the situation to be even better than before. It's unpredictable to see tominay and meguire play so well together. It would be a mistake to sell meguire.

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December 07, 2023, 02:18:24 PM
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Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.

Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.

Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

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December 07, 2023, 02:31:46 PM
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Atletico Madrid have done a really great work in the group stage until now. They will probably finish the stage as the leader as I think that they would beat Lazio home in their last group game. They have been impressive statistically also because they have 3.0 goal average per game at the moment. Considering that they don't have a too easy group this is really good.

I mean that Celtic is of course the weakest link here. They couldn't do anything good until now and they don't even have a chance left for the Europa League.

But Lazio and Feyenoord haven't been easy competitors for Atletico Madrid.
It is certain that Atletico will do it against Lazio and I think away wins are also very important as a statistical record of wins against other teams from outside Spain. Lazio looks like they will face difficulties in this away match but even if they lose they will still qualify with Atletico for the round of 16.

Celtic are the only points producing team in Group E and I didn't expect them to be this bad without a single win in the 5 matches they have played. But if Celtic can get 3 points at home against Feyenoord at least it can cure their failure in the Champions League this season.

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December 07, 2023, 02:35:04 PM
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They must win against Bayern while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw and that is not an easy matter.
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.

I just think that it is possible that Galatasaray will qualify for the group accompanying Munich because of course Manchester United will not succeed. But even if they qualify or not, Manchester United still have to play as hard as possible and not suffer another defeat in this last match which will also determine whether they qualify or not.
That is a very difficult scenario to do because it does not rely on its own side, but rather a match between two other teams that must have a draw, so it is very unlikely to happen even though it is basically who is lucky in a situation like Manchester United.
And again, are they sure they can beat Bayern Munich, this is also a big question mark for man united in their last match in the UCL group stage, I myself am not sure that man united can beat Bayern Munich even though the ball is round.

Galatasaray? I also think so, but Copenhagen also has a chance in this match, so to bet on the match between Galatasaray vs Copenhagen is very gray because both have been balanced so far.

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Even if you consider this chance for Manchester United to win the game against Bayern Munich and get qualified in this group to pass the stage, but Manchester United is not a team in the good situation to have any chance in this tournament during this season and I think it's better for Ten Hag to focus on the Premer League instead of that.

The focus of the Red Devils is to earn another solid spot in UEFA Champions League next season and qualifying for next round in UCL this season, that alone will boosts their performance against mediocre teams and also elite clubs. Manchester united have misused their chances of qualifying for the next phase of the UEFA Champions League and now they have a die-hard job to win  Bayern Munich in the last leg of group stage match. Erik Ten Hag will only attempt to beat Thomas Tuchel but he will not lack the necessary strategies to implement against such an elite Bundesliga giant.

I think, Manchester united coach is trying his best to improve the team to stand on a solid ground in this champions league competition to make people believe that he is capable to lead the team to embrace the title in this season, but it will be difficult for Bayern Munich to allow the dream of Manchester united to come true in their next match. Manchester united has four points which they are expecting Galatasaray to draw with their opponent so that they will have the opportunity to qualify from the group, and it will be difficult for such mistakes to happen in this period that many teams want to qualify from their various groups. It was a beautiful victory for Manchester united to defeated Chelsea 2-1 in the premier league competition to prove to people that they are still stronger than Chelsea despite the challenges they are facing in this season.

Ten hag is always trying to do his best to make sure manchester united will always be able to climbing up. The only problem if sometimes you can't even expect if there was a problem occured to the players. Glad to see that the players who were always getting blamed by the fans are performing so crazily at the middle of season. I must be named all of them and they are meguire and tominay. Even meguire has become a player of the month and this proves that if those dudes are still very important for the club.

Manchester united was almost kicking him from the club in the last summer transfer season. Anything is still remain unpredictable in the football. You can say that if manchester united was doing very important thing but in fact if it is also performing so perfect right now.
People are unable predicting the situation to be even better than before. It's unpredictable to see tominay and meguire play so well together. It would be a mistake to sell meguire.
Sometimes Criticism makes someone more better,Maguire has suffered criticism and abuse in the hands of their fans,but the player kept on believing in himself and kept on doing what he was supposed to do,and finally,things have changed,he is no longer the topic of the day,rather,he is used as an example to urge other players belt up and  improve.Maguire is really an example to many United players who are performing below expectation to believe in themselves and try to improve on their performance.Manchester United shocked everybody when they won Chelsea who everybody thought were going to win in this encounter in the premier league.
It is good to see them win a big team again.

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December 07, 2023, 02:59:18 PM
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It can be done if Manchester United win against Bayern and Copenhagen draw against Galatasaray indirectly they will definitely qualify because they are 1 point ahead of Copenhagen and Galatasaray but if they win but one of Copenhagen and Galatasaray wins then they will only be in the Europa League but another possibility if Manchester United lose or draw then they will only be at the bottom of the standings without being able to say much for the Champions League this season.

I personally wouldn't expect too much actually but of course Manchester United winning is very good just that Bayern don't want to lose their unbeaten record in the group phase.
Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.

Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.
Yep, in terms of calculations it is still very likely, it's just that the process is quite steep where they have to be able to win while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw.
The possibility of a draw for Galatasaaray is still there, it's just that winning from Bayern is a little troublesome. Bayern have nothing else now because regardless of whether they lose or win, it will not affect them, it's just that Bayern's statistics of losing have been very long in the Champions League because the last time they lost in the group phase was in the 2017/18 season and even then only 1 defeat after that they never lost even though they were always in a group that was not too favorable with the status of the hell group they never once tasted defeat.

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December 07, 2023, 03:05:14 PM
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Mathematically, it's still very much possible for Manchester United to progress to the next round of the UEFA Champions League competition and that's if they can beat Bayern Munich at home while Copenhagen play our a draw against Galatasaray but in my own opinion, they'll need a miracle to reach the round of 16 in the competition because the last two matches in the group is very unlikely to produce such results.  Bayern Munich has been very impressive since the start of the season and are one of the few clubs that are yet to lose a game in the competition so for Manchester United to beat them in that game at Old Trafford next week, they'll have to play to their full strength while hoping for Bayern Munich boss Thomas Tuchel not to field his strongest squad since they've already won the group.
Copenhagen home game against Galatasaray is also unlikely to produce a draw because the two teams knows what's at stake going into the game. Copenhagen will be playing in front of their home fans and that I think will give them extra motivation to win the game and progress to round of 16 while Turkish champions Galatasaray also will be seeking to win the game to reach the knockout stages. Any of the three teams between Manchester United, Copenhagen and Galatasaray can still qualify but Manchester United in my opinion are in a more difficult situation to make to the knockout stages of the competition.
Bookmakers rate United's odds at 1 in 8. That's about a 12% chance of United qualifying. Maybe Bayern will not be in optimal shape because they have an away game against Eitracht Frankfurt the day after tomorrow, but I don’t think that will have a serious impact in the game against United. And I think that United should hope that Bayern beat Eintracht without any problems, because if they lose points they will be extra motivated (the game with Copenhagen where they could not beat Eintracht at home also probably left its mark).

I am not sure if Bayern Munich will play to win this match. If Bayern Munich is playing to win then I would say winning against Manchester United is not a tough task for Bayern Munich. I watched Bayern Munich's match against Copenhagen. There was no will to win in Bayern Munich's players. Bayern Munich players performed very badly. And if Munich's players perform similarly against Manchester United, then Munich has the possibility of losing points against Manchester United as well.

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December 07, 2023, 03:06:51 PM
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They must win against Bayern while hoping Copenhagen and Galatasaray draw and that is not an easy matter.
Obviously that is a difficult thing to do considering that Munich is not a weak club, they are the strongest club in the UCL so they will probably have difficulty winning against them. Let's just say that if Manchester United managed to win narrowly with 1 - 0, that doesn't guarantee qualification either because Galatasaray and Copenhagen will not be able to play a draw because one of them wants to qualify from the group to the next round.

I just think that it is possible that Galatasaray will qualify for the group accompanying Munich because of course Manchester United will not succeed. But even if they qualify or not, Manchester United still have to play as hard as possible and not suffer another defeat in this last match which will also determine whether they qualify or not.
Personally, Im not expecting much from Manchester United versus Bayern. Bayern's UCL strength makes it difficult. United's tight triumph doesnt ensure a simple ride against a tough opponent. Football is unpredictable, though. United's game at Old Trafford may offer them a mental edge against the odds. Taking advantage and playing with what they have is key. In the second scenario, Copenhagen vs. Galatasaray is anyone's game. A draw is improbable as both sides compete for a spot in the following round. If United beats Bayern and one of them wins, it may imply Europa League for United. Football's complexity is its appeal, right? There are always surprises, and miracles happen in sports.

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December 07, 2023, 03:09:10 PM
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Atletico Madrid have done a really great work in the group stage until now. They will probably finish the stage as the leader as I think that they would beat Lazio home in their last group game. They have been impressive statistically also because they have 3.0 goal average per game at the moment. Considering that they don't have a too easy group this is really good.

I mean that Celtic is of course the weakest link here. They couldn't do anything good until now and they don't even have a chance left for the Europa League.

But Lazio and Feyenoord haven't been easy competitors for Atletico Madrid.
It is certain that Atletico will do it against Lazio and I think away wins are also very important as a statistical record of wins against other teams from outside Spain. Lazio looks like they will face difficulties in this away match but even if they lose they will still qualify with Atletico for the round of 16.

Celtic are the only points producing team in Group E and I didn't expect them to be this bad without a single win in the 5 matches they have played. But if Celtic can get 3 points at home against Feyenoord at least it can cure their failure in the Champions League this season.

This match doesn't matter a lot for those clubs. I think that those clubs will not be playing seriously in the last matchday. I would prefer to take other match as the main concern instead of this match. We have learned that if we can also be pranked by those teams. Lazio and atletico madrid have been qualified and there's no need to bet on this match. I would rather than try to take a bet in another group like group a or f instead of it.

Manchester united and some clubs in the group F were struggling. They were facing their last chances to qualify for the knock out stage. Im sure that they are all going all in against their opponents.
Some clubs are trying so hard to qualify even though it has no chance anymore like manchester united. Ten hag is surely praying for his club to get a miracle then Mu will able to qualify but the chance is very very small.

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December 07, 2023, 03:11:43 PM
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It's true what you say. I think United would be better off focusing on getting a place in the top four to get a ticket to the Champions League next season. Currently they are in 6th place in the standings and they still have a very big chance of doing that. I'm not sure if they can qualify for the UEFA Europa League. And if you look at United's current quality I think it's better for them to stay focused on the EPL.
Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.

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Many fans are urging club management to replace Ten Hag. It seems like they have given the coach many opportunities. I don't know what considerations the club management had in mind when deciding to keep Ten Hag.
Maybe the club management is looking at who is worthy to coach Manchester United, because currently Manchester United not only lacks tactics, but also lacks the best players so that Manchester United is only able to win narrowly and with certain teams, such as when facing Chelsea. Meanwhile, with a stronger team, they are likely to always lose this season.
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December 07, 2023, 03:16:48 PM
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Sometimes Criticism makes someone more better,Maguire has suffered criticism and abuse in the hands of their fans,but the player kept on believing in himself and kept on doing what he was supposed to do,and finally,things have changed,he is no longer the topic of the day,rather,he is used as an example to urge other players belt up and  improve.Maguire is really an example to many United players who are performing below expectation to believe in themselves and try to improve on their performance.Manchester United shocked everybody when they won Chelsea who everybody thought were going to win in this encounter in the premier league.
It is good to see them win a big team again.

I agree with you, criticism some times is needed to get some one better than they have been as it will most likely go a long way in helping them becoming aware of their performance and know were to and how to improve such that they will escape further criticism, although sometimes it could break some one if not done constructively.

Another person who needs same approach should be Bruno Fernandes, he is one player who I think is making some moves that has been over looked over time and may gradually get an effect on the team if not curbed now, although he has been of good performance before now but currently it's below expectations and it doesn't seem like ten hag is aware or maybe he is one of his fave because he's also doing similar thing with Onana .

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December 07, 2023, 03:41:11 PM
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Trying to get to the top four in the Premier League will also not be easy this season, unless the Manchester United team has a new breakthrough in the way they play. Because in general Manchester United still has a lot to improve this season and they also still need to buy better players when the transfer market opens again so that they have different strengths after that.
They have to try to get it because a position in top four of Premier League will help them having chances to play in Champions League. This chance has many meanings for them, first for their club finance, second for their players with opportunities to play against strong clubs in Europe. Matches in Champions League will help their players learning many great lessons and can help them growing up more.

I am not sure if Bayern Munich will play to win this match. If Bayern Munich is playing to win then I would say winning against Manchester United is not a tough task for Bayern Munich.
Bayern Munich does not need to win this match but Manchester United must win it. I am sure Bayern Munich will not play with attitude like giving away a big gift for Manchester United, come and get three points from them.

That match will not be an easy one for Manchester United because the opponent is strong even with their second team. More challenging, Manchester United will have to play this match with so much pressure and I think we already know how weak their players' mentality is.

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