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December 08, 2023, 06:31:05 PM
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Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.

Bayern Munich already successfully qualified, we already know the end from the beginning, hoping is one dangerous for me to do for Manchester United. I really don't have that time to do that. They should focus on winning successfully and hope Galatasaray and Copenhagen gets a draw otherwise, back to struggles in the Europa League Competition.

Very tiny mate! I would love they get knocked out and return to focus on the Premier League just alone. That way, they'll have a good slot in the top of clubs qualifying for the Champions League the next season.

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December 08, 2023, 06:46:48 PM
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Barcelona have also put an end to their bad process in the Champions League in the recent years. They already had a comfortable group to tell the truth. Only Porto seemed to be troubling to me. But even they couldn't get any points from Barcelona. Barcelona lost to Shakhtar away once but this is still not an obstacle for Barcelona to finish the group stage at the 1st position. This is good progress for Xavi. He has already made progress in the La Liga by winning the title once and being in the title race this season too.

But he would be expected to do better than getting stuck in the group stage as well. Thankfully he has done it too.  Smiley

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December 08, 2023, 06:51:52 PM
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Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.
Manchester united fans will sure be curious about the possible outcome as to determine their fate in the UCL if they will be considered participants or the journey is come to an end for them by the end of the week six games, Manchester united fate depends on both matches that will be played in their group by next week.

Not only does their game against Bayern Munich will affect them, but the game between Copenhagen and Galatasaray has an extensive effect on them as well so Manchester united fans has got eyes on both game and I'm sure they will currently be on their toes calculating the possible odds for the possibility of their qualifications. Bayern Munich is the only team who is currently sure and have no problems regardless of the possible outcome of the matches by week six.

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December 08, 2023, 06:52:39 PM
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Bayern Munich already successfully qualified, we already know the end from the beginning, hoping is one dangerous for me to do for Manchester United. I really don't have that time to do that. They should focus on winning successfully and hope Galatasaray and Copenhagen gets a draw otherwise, back to struggles in the Europa League Competition.

Very tiny mate! I would love they get knocked out and return to focus on the Premier League just alone. That way, they'll have a good slot in the top of clubs qualifying for the Champions League the next season.
Bayern Munich have 8 points remaining from Copenhagen, Galatasaray and 9 points from Manchester United, not important yet what the result on last match against Manchester United they have qualified to next round as first position standings. Personally, I think Thomas Tuchel not focus yet what the result on last match and will make big rotation to give chance for second composition player. Loss from Manchester United keep make Bayern Munich lead top position but crucial for third teams opportunity will qualify to next round or not if Bayern Munich loss from Manchester United.

Manchester United on crucial position, should winning against Bayern Munich on Copenhagen or Galatasaray have playing draw because one of both between Copenhagen or Galatasaray win have over with Manchester United chance qualify to 16 round although winning against Bayern Munich, just have hope with playing in Europe League only.

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December 08, 2023, 06:58:40 PM
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Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
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December 08, 2023, 08:01:37 PM
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Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
Manchester United fate this season is very sad, Ten Hag has faced many obstacles in building the club to be more consistent in achieving points. The situation was even worse in the UCL, no one was waiting for this match except to see United fail to advance to the round of 16 or advance to the Europa League play offs by finishing in third place in group A. United received more attention when getting minor results, and as if one defeat covers up several important matches they won previously, that's how I see United current image among football fans.

United chances in the UCL and Europa League are closed, only a big miracle can take them to one of these competitions. Ten Hag is the person most responsible for all the failures, he deserves criticism if he continues to maintain a tough style of managing the club. We can only hope that United can finish in the top four of the EPL standings at the end of the season, and try again next season to try for better luck, for this season there is no longer any hope.

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December 08, 2023, 08:34:04 PM
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The match will happen in Copenhagen's home, I expect it's either draw or Copenhagen to win since Copenhagen was able to win against Galatasaray in Copenhagen's home and draw against Bayern Munich in Copenhagen's home.

I think we will agree neither Galatasaray or Copenhagen win the match, they're not going to become a champion. But since Galatasaray is more familiar, I'm rooting for Copenhagen this time.
Judging from the performance of Copenhagen at home this season's Uefa Champions League, I think Copenhagen will be the one to advance to the next round of the Uefa Champions League. Copenhagen came from behind to beat Manchester United 4-3 at home. Galatasaray will find it difficult to win Copenhagen at home.
I feel like Copenhag has the advantage of the pitch, that is the biggest thing that people are not talking about. These players are used to playing there, they have played there for a long time, some of them played there all their life, but Galatasaray players will be foreign to the weather and the pitch.

The pitch can't be grass, like not the grass we know, not the dirt and grass that we use everywhere, it's still fine by regulations, but it's a bit more rough, not really "fake" but more rough, in a weather like they have over at Copenhagen they had to change it, and Galatasaray players will not be ready for that, they are not used to it, they have mild weather where they live, so between the super cold weather that you may feel freezing, and also the pitch that is different, you are going to end up with a lot of trouble for the Galatasaray team, and if they failed to win at home, imagine how much difference that cold weather away game will be.
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December 08, 2023, 08:53:18 PM
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Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
Manchester United fate this season is very sad, Ten Hag has faced many obstacles in building the club to be more consistent in achieving points. The situation was even worse in the UCL, no one was waiting for this match except to see United fail to advance to the round of 16 or advance to the Europa League play offs by finishing in third place in group A. United received more attention when getting minor results, and as if one defeat covers up several important matches they won previously, that's how I see United current image among football fans.

United chances in the UCL and Europa League are closed, only a big miracle can take them to one of these competitions. Ten Hag is the person most responsible for all the failures, he deserves criticism if he continues to maintain a tough style of managing the club. We can only hope that United can finish in the top four of the EPL standings at the end of the season, and try again next season to try for better luck, for this season there is no longer any hope.

I know Manchester United are in a precarious situation amidst the growing desire of the fans and the internal pressure of expecting Ten Hag to lead the team through to the last 16. They have the possibility of qualifying, but Manchester United must have a realistic attitude about what they are up against. Besides working hard to beat Bayern Munich, whether or not Manchester United qualify for the round of 16 is in the hands of Copenhagen and Galatasaray. Manchester United made a big mistake in dropping points against Copenhagen and Galatasaray, otherwise, the situation wouldn't be this complicated.

In another group, PSG, Newcastle and Milan are also in a difficult situation. PSG has 2 points more than Milan and Newcastle, but PSG can still fail to qualify for the round of 16 if one of Milan or Newcastle wins, while PSG loses to Dortmund. Luis Enrique must do something that can make PSG qualify for the last 16. A draw or win is the scenario they should strive for, if they lose to Dortmund then PSG will have to regret the result.
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December 08, 2023, 09:01:51 PM
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I feel like Copenhag has the advantage of the pitch, that is the biggest thing that people are not talking about. These players are used to playing there, they have played there for a long time, some of them played there all their life, but Galatasaray players will be foreign to the weather and the pitch.

The pitch can't be grass, like not the grass we know, not the dirt and grass that we use everywhere, it's still fine by regulations, but it's a bit more rough, not really "fake" but more rough, in a weather like they have over at Copenhagen they had to change it, and Galatasaray players will not be ready for that, they are not used to it, they have mild weather where they live, so between the super cold weather that you may feel freezing, and also the pitch that is different, you are going to end up with a lot of trouble for the Galatasaray team, and if they failed to win at home, imagine how much difference that cold weather away game will be.
Without a doubt the home team has the advantage of not only knowing very well the conditions of the pitch, they will also have the fans supporting them during the whole game and trying to become as influential as possible during the course of the match, so Galatasaray is going to face an uphill battle when playing against Copenhagen, however not all is lost, as Copenhagen cannot play for the tie as at the same time Bayern and Manchester united will play their game, and if Manchester gets the win and Copenhagen ties with Galatasaray then the team moving to the next round will be Manchester United.
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December 08, 2023, 09:20:55 PM
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Without a doubt the home team has the advantage of not only knowing very well the conditions of the pitch, they will also have the fans supporting them during the whole game and trying to become as influential as possible during the course of the match, so Galatasaray is going to face an uphill battle when playing against Copenhagen, however not all is lost, as Copenhagen cannot play for the tie as at the same time Bayern and Manchester united will play their game, and if Manchester gets the win and Copenhagen ties with Galatasaray then the team moving to the next round will be Manchester United.

The pitch will certainly be an advantage for Copenhagen, as they are used to playing on this pitch, but the fans will not be a problem at all. Anyone who has seen the Turkish games knows how crazy the fans are there and especially in Turkish derbies the atmosphere is incomparable. So Gala is used  to much worse and the Copenhagen fans won't be able to upset them. All in all, I expect an evenly-matched game. Copenhagen has its advantages from the venue and Gala has its stars, it's very exciting!

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December 08, 2023, 09:22:38 PM
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Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
I am not even sure if United would be happier with a complete elimination from Europe or with elimination down to the Europa League, if they drop out of Europe completely, it gives them a better chance to focus on the EPL and try to finish in the top four. But if you think about it, winning the Europa League gives an automatic qualification into the CL for the next season and a trophy as well, thus since United are not going to compete for the EPL title, they might be happier with a place in the Europa League and try to win it.

 
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December 08, 2023, 09:33:35 PM
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Bayern Munich have 8 points remaining from Copenhagen, Galatasaray and 9 points from Manchester United, not important yet what the result on last match against Manchester United they have qualified to next round as first position standings. Personally, I think Thomas Tuchel not focus yet what the result on last match and will make big rotation to give chance for second composition player. Loss from Manchester United keep make Bayern Munich lead top position but crucial for third teams opportunity will qualify to next round or not if Bayern Munich loss from Manchester United.

Manchester United on crucial position, should winning against Bayern Munich on Copenhagen or Galatasaray have playing draw because one of both between Copenhagen or Galatasaray win have over with Manchester United chance qualify to 16 round although winning against Bayern Munich, just have hope with playing in Europe League only.
The last Champion League faceoff results left most teams to calculated qualifications for the round of 16, a whole lot of teams advancement doesn't necessarily depend on the outcome of their final group game, but rather on the outcome of other group team games too. United drew to Galatasaray, so did Copenhagen to Munich. Now the advancement is certain alone for Munich but the other three would have to fight in their own final games and still pray that the counterpart teams get a result that'd give them a chance to qualify as well.

 I don't know how United will face Munich because they're not in form even if they'd be the hosts, Munich are doing exceedingly well and they've not failed to make clubs stay down. Ten Hag has to do the greatest needful and also pray really hard because their destiny isn't in their hands solely. Bayern Munich drew to Copenhagen and this slightly made their qualification uncertain. Although they've got enough points needed to qualify which in their next and final match with United, will be sealed. For Galatasaray, they also had a draw with United in the last UCL encounter and now these four teams are left to struggle through in the final group game. That'll be the decider for each of their performances
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December 08, 2023, 09:44:00 PM
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United chances in the UCL and Europa League are closed, only a big miracle can take them to one of these competitions. Ten Hag is the person most responsible for all the failures, he deserves criticism if he continues to maintain a tough style of managing the club. We can only hope that United can finish in the top four of the EPL standings at the end of the season, and try again next season to try for better luck, for this season there is no longer any hope.

For me, I feel Manchester United are going to be bad for a long time because they don't even know the cause of all these problems.
Today they play Glazers, tomorrow they blame the players, and the next day is the Onana. This just goes on to show how bad the club is.

First, Manchester United is a very badly run club. They don't know how to handle issues. See how they handled Ronaldo's interview before his contract was terminated.
The same way they're handling Greenword's. First, they reported that his contract had been terminated, next, he went out on loan. How does a player who is a free agent go on loan? This means they're still keeping the door open for him to come back when the heat around Greenwood dies down. Manchester United should know that they're in no position to take the kind of heat that comes with Greenwood when they still have a lot coming from Antony.

Sancho's situation is another example of how United could have handled things better.

When it comes to signing players, Manchester United make very poor decisions. It's not just about how expensive the player is. Ask questions like "Is he good?" " Does he fit into the system?" And many more questions.

Manchester United don't have a team that's ready to compete. You can't compete when players like Martial and Ganacho are your best players.

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December 08, 2023, 09:44:54 PM
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Experienced strikers mean the strikers who can make a difference in the match and have great ability in scoring goals. Man United have talented strikers, they are young and have potential to develop. But those strikers still have no ability in scoring goals consistently. Man United current strikers aren't productive strikers, they are too inconsistent as the top strikers of big team like Man United.
You're right, Manchester United have a talented striker and I recognize that. Rasmus Højlund is still very young [20 years old] and he can still develop into the best striker, but his current performance has not proven much even though Rasmus Højlund managed to score 5 goals in the Champions League this season. Anthony Martial who has more experience is also not doing well when he gets the chance, so the striker case is indeed a mandatory need for Manchester United.

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Without CF? I think it is not a wise idea, Man United needs a CF to sharpen their attacking. CF is a player who has a special ability in scoring goals. If Ten Hag relies on the wingers and AMF for scoring goals, they won't be easy to do it. Wingers and AMF can be good players and can score goals. However, I rarely found wingers or AMF who can be a real machine goal for the team. Bellingham is a rare AMF who can score many goals.
There's nothing wrong with trying new strategies and seeing what they can do. Bruno Fernandez is good to fill AMF's shoes and he also scores goals often. Ten Hag might need to trust Rashford to play as a CF or left-winger instead of playing as a right-winger. Last season Rashford often played in those two positions and his performance was very impressive. I don't sure, but I know Ten Hag has tried it and may need to give him more opportunities.

Rashford's decline in form has been a blessing for Garnacho, but Rashford must fight to regain his place in the first-team squad. He must work harder and be focused, otherwise, Rashford will experience an unpleasant setback moment in his career. He must keep the coach's trust by playing as expected, but tough times are bound to come for all players.

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December 08, 2023, 09:46:59 PM
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Yeah i think the Manchester United fans are gonna see most the game in Copenaghe between Galatasaray and Copenaghe than the match between them and Bayern Munich.  Grin

They have a tiny expectation to go into round of 16, but we have one more chance, what if they ended in the last spot of the table? total shame.
Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.

I don’t really think there will be hope for Manchester United to go higher again. The team has been experiencing a tough time this season, and most people are not really enjoying it, especially the fans. Although Ten Hag really needs to be blamed, the type of style he usually uses to manage the squad is too poor. He doesn't use the strategy that can boost the team's performance, in my opinion, because if he did, the team could have woken up by now, Atleastt even if they won’t achieve anything in the competition, is okay. but they shouldn’t perform badly like there doing now because is embarrassing to see Manchester United performing this way, or there position in the standing should be like this. However we need to know that most of the difficulties Manchester United face is from the manager I think. 

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December 08, 2023, 10:09:32 PM
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In another group, PSG, Newcastle and Milan are also in a difficult situation. PSG has 2 points more than Milan and Newcastle, but PSG can still fail to qualify for the round of 16 if one of Milan or Newcastle wins, while PSG loses to Dortmund. Luis Enrique must do something that can make PSG qualify for the last 16. A draw or win is the scenario they should strive for, if they lose to Dortmund then PSG will have to regret the result.
This is a group of hell and it will definitely be very difficult to predict who will qualify in the end because a win in the last match is a guarantee that they will qualify for the next phase.
At the moment Dortmund are very comfortable and sure to qualify for the next phase but this actually backfires for the other 3 clubs including PSG because indeed their target now is only runner up.
And we know when it is in the Runner up sometimes it is always difficult for PSG even though they qualify because the previous 2 seasons also when they were in the Runner up they always lost in the knock out phase.

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December 08, 2023, 10:40:39 PM
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Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If you look at Manchester United last match in the group phase, of course they have quite tough opponents and I predict they will have difficulty winning this match. If that happens, Manchester united will automatically close the group stage in 4th place and they will have no chance of joining the European league. But for Bayern munich, the last match is not that important for them, so if Bayern Munich doesn't field their core squad, of course it will be an opportunity for Manchester United to win.

And fierce competition will automatically occur in the Copenhagen vs Galatasaray match because they will compete like life and death to win a ticket for the round of 16.
Galatasaray, who rely on Icardi as their spearhead, hopes that Icardi can make a lot of contributions in the match against Copenhagen. In my opinion, Gelatasaray will accompany Bayern Munich to advance to the round of 16.

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December 08, 2023, 10:51:23 PM
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I feel like Copenhag has the advantage of the pitch, that is the biggest thing that people are not talking about. These players are used to playing there, they have played there for a long time, some of them played there all their life, but Galatasaray players will be foreign to the weather and the pitch.

The pitch can't be grass, like not the grass we know, not the dirt and grass that we use everywhere, it's still fine by regulations, but it's a bit more rough, not really "fake" but more rough, in a weather like they have over at Copenhagen they had to change it, and Galatasaray players will not be ready for that, they are not used to it, they have mild weather where they live, so between the super cold weather that you may feel freezing, and also the pitch that is different, you are going to end up with a lot of trouble for the Galatasaray team, and if they failed to win at home, imagine how much difference that cold weather away game will be.

In the first meeting at Galatasaray headquarters, Copenhagen was able to provide resistance to the home team. In fact, Copenhagen was ahead with a 0-2 advantage. Unfortunately, in the 73rd minute one of Copenhagen's players was given a red card. In the end, Galatasaray was able to equalize the score to a 2-2 draw.
referring to the first point you said, this is quite reasonable and worthy of consideration, especially considering their initial match meeting. Apart from the points you are talking about, in their last 5 matches Copenhagen is experiencing a decline in performance. 3 defeats, 1 draw, in the Domestic League and 1 more match, a draw against Bayern Munich. However, because this match is being played at Copenhagen's home ground, they will appear all out in front of their own supporters. Moreover, they have great motivation as they finished second in the Group A phase.

As for Galatasaray, they performed quite well in their Domestic League. In fact, as professional players, they must be ready to fight in any weather and terrain. Moreover, Okan Buruk's squad also wants to win to accompany Bayern Munich in the next round. Referring to betting options, the odds provided by bookies do not have a significant difference. So, these two teams both have a chance. However, because Copenhagen acts as the home team, they should be able to maximize this match and it will be an advantage for them. Just wait, because in the next few days this match will be held.

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December 08, 2023, 11:15:34 PM
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It is too difficult to imagine Manchester United qualifying for the round of 16, if it happened it would be a miracle. I don't think Bayern Munich will completely let Manchester United embarrass them at Old Trafford, so it's clear that the match between Manchester United and Bayern Munich will be tight. Manchester United certainly has a chance to win the match, but their chances of qualifying for the round of 16 are 50:50.
Yes, it is quite difficult for Man United. If they qualify for the next round, they get a miracle. Sure, Bayern Munich won't let Man United to get 3 points for free. Bayern Munich must try to win the match for their pride, they don't want to be defeated by Man United. So, no guarantee for Man United to win the match in Old Trafford.

Qualifying for the Europa League is the most realistic goal in my opinion, but of course I can expect a big bonus if Manchester United qualify for the round of 16. With his performance in the last match against Chelsea, the confidence of the team and players is getting better and hopefully they will be able to maintain it.
Indeed. Finish in the 3rd place will be more realistic result if they win against Bayern Munich. Galatasaray and Copenhagen have a bigger chance to qualify for the next round if one of them win the final match. However, the chance for a draw isn't impossible. But we can assume it to be a very small chance for a draw.


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December 09, 2023, 02:03:01 AM
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Yes, it would probably be a real shame for Manchester United to finish last in the group, but I don't remember them achieving any success in European Cups recently. Of course it would be nice for them to finish third to stay in the Europa League, but the chances are really slim.
If Manchester United headcoach, Erik Ten Hag is innovative and the players become productive in matches, the exact same energy and power level they exerted against Chelsea, if they used it against Bayern Munich, it will be tough and entertaining to watch because I don't settle for lesser games. First of all, Manchester United group is very very competitive and there's no club to be underrated, everyone finds what's good. Manchester united have a major aim in UCL and there hope is to manage and win Bayern Munich and qualify for the Europa League spot.

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