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December 23, 2023, 02:55:04 PM
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I believe that Harry Kane has a really big role in Bayern Munich's being shown as the second biggest favourite for the Champions League title by bookmakers.

Because his contribution level in his first year there is just incredible.  Cheesy  He is a goal machine literally everywhere right now. He has been making contribution in two ways in the Champions League - goals and assists both. As long as he is in form like this Bayern Munich always have a chance for playing at least in the finale. But the team performance should stay solid in the meantime. Because they weren't reliable in the group stage as much as they have been in the Bundesliga.  Sad
Football is a team game, not an individual game. Harry Kane did perform well with Bayern Munich in his first season, in the Champions League he has packed 4 goals and 3 assists, it is a good contribution from a total of 12 goals that Bayern Munich has created in the Champions League. In the Bundesliga, he also scored 21 goals in the 15 matches he played. But in the group stage they do not have significant pressure, because the 3 teams in the same group with them are experiencing difficult situations. Manchester United, which is predicted to be their main competitor, is also at the bottom of the table. The real test will come after passing the round of 16 in my opinion, because in the round of 16 I still trust them.

Its going to be an interesting period when the round 16 will kick off in the UEFA champions league.The teams that are expected to go through this round to the quater final are Madrid,Bayern,Manchester City, Arsenal,Dortmund,I Include Dortmund because they are so good this season in the Champions league, finishing first in their group of death is not an easy task,so I will include them to go far past the round 16 stage.There are other teams that will push towards making the quater  final,but i'm optimistic about this few I mentioned.I really can't wait for this period to come because it is through this league that the best teams in the world are known.Last season,it was Mancity,but I doubt if they will be able to defend the tittle this season.
Being in the toughest group in the Champions League this season to win the group with 11 points from 3 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat is a good record for Borussia Dortmund. Their performance is very different in the Champions League and for the Bundesliga their performance is not very good. But to compare with other teams as you mentioned, I personally still can't do it. Not without reason, the article they became one of the teams that might be arguably inconsistent when in the Champions League.
PSV will be their opponent in the round of 16, it could be a stumbling block for them too.

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December 23, 2023, 03:11:51 PM
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Its going to be an interesting period when the round 16 will kick off in the UEFA champions league.The teams that are expected to go through this round to the quater final are Madrid,Bayern,Manchester City, Arsenal,Dortmund,I Include Dortmund because they are so good this season in the Champions league, finishing first in their group of death is not an easy task,so I will include them to go far past the round 16 stage.There are other teams that will push towards making the quater  final,but i'm optimistic about this few I mentioned.I really can't wait for this period to come because it is through this league that the best teams in the world are known.Last season,it was Mancity,but I doubt if they will be able to defend the tittle this season.
Some of the clubs you mentioned to enter the quarter-finals make a lot of sense, but I have doubts about Dortmund because even though they are performing very well, it seems like the players readiness is very lacking and they might have difficulty in the last 16 because the competition will be even more competitive in the last 16 even PSG and Napoli are the clubs that will prevent big clubs from qualifying for the quarter-finals.
Inter Milan is actually one of the suitable candidates to enter the quarter-finals because last season Inter was able to qualify for the finals and try to repeat this history even though it would be very difficult, but I would agree more if Dortmund were replaced by Inter Milan.


In fact, Barcelona, if this club had quality players without financial problems, I'm sure Barcelona would also be very suitable to be able to continue the match until the next round, but unfortunately Barcelona in the round of 16 seems to be having a very difficult time competing with other strong clubs.

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December 23, 2023, 03:22:56 PM
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It sounds quite positive and Lautaro Martinez himself said that he only needs a few days to recover and then will be back as soon as possible. He also mentioned that a streak of 89 games in a row with missing a single one came to an end now. That's really a good number for any player. This makes him so valuable because his team can rely on him, can count on him. If nothing unexpected is reported, I think he will miss the game against Lecce and then he will be back. The Champions League games are definitely not at risk here.
Inter Milan head coach Simone Inzaghi have confirmed with Lutaro Martinez absent on upcoming Serie A match when Inter Milan against Lecce and Inzaghi have called youth primavera players Amadou Sarr for joining to main squad against for match against Lecce. Personally its good side with Lutaro Martinez injured because he get many time getting rest after filling regular position on every Inter Milan match and Champion League round of 16 will play two months later he has time recovery as soon possible.

Champion League match still have many days left and some European players get faster recovery from their injury, however not official announce with Lutaro Martinez with serious injury and likely he will be ready against Atletico Madrid.

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December 23, 2023, 04:34:24 PM
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Indeed, there is still no player who can replace Lautaro Martinez's role at Inter. He has always been Inter's attack motor and is also the current top scorer. The injury suffered will of course be a blow to Inter and also Inzaghi who must make a strategy to be able to fight back against Atletico. because it was clear that the fate of the two teams was not so good when they had to meet earlier. in the round of 16.

Just hope that before the second match, Lautaro Martinez can be confirmed as recovered. Inzaghi may not be able to force the healing process. but he certainly hoped he wouldn't be long.

I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.

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December 23, 2023, 04:44:30 PM
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How are you sure that Barcelona will be kicked out of the Uefa Champions League if they are drawn with a Premier League club? For me, if Barcelona continues to perform the way they did in the Uefa Champions League group stage, they will be kicked out in round 16 of the Uefa Champions League by Napoli.

I only compare the performance of each club in the group stage and in my opinion the club from the Premier League is more convincing while between Barcelona and Napoli I think Barcelona can still be favored if we see based on the last performance of each club. This is just my personal opinion you can agree or ignore it but of course I took a comparison of the last performance of the two teams and this prediction is not permanent because I have said the strength of each club can change if they are actively bringing new players in the transfer window. Another thing that makes me sure Barcelona can beat Napoli is based on schedule, the first leg will be played at Napoli home then the 2nd leg at the Barcelona home well usually the 2nd leg is a determinant and Barcelona as a home team has an advantage.
At the last meeting of Barcelona and Napoli, Barcelona had a successful winning both home and away against Napoli. But this season, the way Barcelona ended their Uefa Champions League group stage shows that their performance has dropped to where they find it hard to win their matches. If Barcelona's performance doesn't improve history will not repeat itself against Napoli.

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December 23, 2023, 06:11:26 PM
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I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.
All teams manager have prepare with their squad for facing bad thing exactly main players injury, its very important how to manage teams keep balance level performance between regular and reserves players. I think Simone Inzaghi have alternative scheme when Lutaro Martinez get injury because still has Marcus Thuram with performance almost on the level with Martinez.
Learning from Pep guardiola when De Bruyne injury can manage well Manchester City performance in champion league by giving chance to other player fill in attacking midfielder and give good contributing help Manchester City qualify to of 16 round.

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December 23, 2023, 06:15:13 PM
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I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.
The match versus Atletico Madrid will take place in February, reportedly Martinez will be available again in early January. If he recovers quickly, this will be good news for Inzaghi, and all the people who support Inter Milan. Martinez role on the front line deserves appreciation, he is the backbone of Inter Milan goal productivity this season. Of course, his presence in the main squad makes a difference, especially since Atletico Madrid is not an easy team to beat.

The mentality possessed by Inter Milan in their capacity as runners up last season put them slightly ahead, even though they did not qualify as winners of the group and previous round. I think the match between Inter Milan versus Atletico Madrid is worth waiting for, because it brings together teams that have balanced strengths.

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December 23, 2023, 06:19:01 PM
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Indeed, there is still no player who can replace Lautaro Martinez's role at Inter. He has always been Inter's attack motor and is also the current top scorer. The injury suffered will of course be a blow to Inter and also Inzaghi who must make a strategy to be able to fight back against Atletico. because it was clear that the fate of the two teams was not so good when they had to meet earlier. in the round of 16.

Just hope that before the second match, Lautaro Martinez can be confirmed as recovered. Inzaghi may not be able to force the healing process. but he certainly hoped he wouldn't be long.

I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.

Playing a key player like Lautaro Martinez, and not replacing him until extra time in the Coppa Italia against Bologna was clearly a mistake. Inzaghi should have been more concerned about his fitness or substituting him to prevent injury and even worse, Inter still Lost in that match. At the moment, it's still uncertain how long Lautaro Martinez will have to recover and yes, it's definitely not a good situation for Inter.

But yes, it is hoped that Lautaro Martinez can recover faster because after all, the reality is that Inter also has several players who are also injured. Therefore, if Lautaro Martinez does not recover quickly then yes, at least it will be difficult for Inter to get maximum results in the next matches when playing against other top teams later, especially in this Champions League.

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December 23, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
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I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.
All teams manager have prepare with their squad for facing bad thing exactly main players injury, its very important how to manage teams keep balance level performance between regular and reserves players. I think Simone Inzaghi have alternative scheme when Lutaro Martinez get injury because still has Marcus Thuram with performance almost on the level with Martinez.
Learning from Pep guardiola when De Bruyne injury can manage well Manchester City performance in champion league by giving chance to other player fill in attacking midfielder and give good contributing help Manchester City qualify to of 16 round.

A player like Kevin De Bruyne should also be sold out of Manchester City, he be picking all of these injuries and it's been affecting his game and also his value of and on the pitch. He should be sold out now when they have his value high. A move to one of the Saudi Arabian Premier League would make perfect sense honestly.

Secondly should be Recce James, he's already had too much injuries, Chelsea should sell him off and make good profit from his sale. Both Real Madrid and Manchester City are both after him. They fail to do that and he'll have no value in the nearest future. Pep Guardiola should already lining up names who could possibly replace him.

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December 23, 2023, 07:02:24 PM
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As far as I know there will be a fresh draw for the quarter finals round. It isn't already set about the winners of which matchups will get a draw against each other. Otherwise a matchup between Real Madrid and Manchester City would be seen in the quarter finals which would be really interesting. It would be like an early finale in the Champions League.  Cheesy

I hope to see a finale between these 2 teams honestly rather than seeing Bayern Munich there. Because I don't think that Bayern Munich's current game in the Champions League is good enough to reach the finale.

If we see more improvement from Bayern Munich then I wouldn't say no to seeing one of the finalists as them of course.
How are you sure it's going to be Manchester City and Real Madrid,do you think they are the two best teams in this competition? No,I don't see that because there are other teams which you do not expect,but might surprise you to reach the final of this competition.Arsenal have had  a good run of form so far,and are not far from favourite for this tittle as well,while Dortmund have surprised everyone to finish ontop of their group of death,where they had PSG,Milan,Dortmund and Newcastle,so finishing ontop of that group really surprised me because I wasn't expecting it.
We also have Bayern which are inform too,and might just shock everybody by getting to the final of this competition.
It is an open game,and anybody or any team can reach the final,depending on how that team performs,but I tip Arsenal to be able to reach the final.

I didn't say I was sure of anything mate. It is just a prediction of mine to see Real Madrid and Manchester City playing against each other in the finale. It wouldn't be surprising as both of them are top contenders for the Champions League title in the end.  Grin  But we will see. For example last season there was an Inter - Manchester City finale so we never know.

But it is more enjoyable to watch the biggest contenders in the finale as those games are generally ending up with many goals also.  Smiley

The finale between Inter and Manchester City wasn't like that because of especially Inter's playing style.

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December 23, 2023, 07:09:30 PM
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I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.
All teams manager have prepare with their squad for facing bad thing exactly main players injury, its very important how to manage teams keep balance level performance between regular and reserves players. I think Simone Inzaghi have alternative scheme when Lutaro Martinez get injury because still has Marcus Thuram with performance almost on the level with Martinez.
Learning from Pep guardiola when De Bruyne injury can manage well Manchester City performance in champion league by giving chance to other player fill in attacking midfielder and give good contributing help Manchester City qualify to of 16 round.

A player like Kevin De Bruyne should also be sold out of Manchester City, he be picking all of these injuries and it's been affecting his game and also his value of and on the pitch. He should be sold out now when they have his value high. A move to one of the Saudi Arabian Premier League would make perfect sense honestly.

Secondly should be Recce James, he's already had too much injuries, Chelsea should sell him off and make good profit from his sale. Both Real Madrid and Manchester City are both after him. They fail to do that and he'll have no value in the nearest future. Pep Guardiola should already lining up names who could possibly replace him.

These injuries are due to them being overworked due to the current schedule. They have games after games, International matches, Cup matches and European League matches if you are from a good team, which Kevin De Bruyne is. Oluwa-btc, So you saying Kevin De Bruyne should be sold is literally absurd. Due to him being injured, Manchester City is really struggling. He, Rodri, and Haaland are the 3 key players I see in Manchester City's squad right now.

So many teams are currently suffering due to a big injury list, Real Madrid, Manchester United and so many more. Some players are injury prone and these tough schedules just multiplies chances of them getting injured. So a team should have a backup ready for the key players just in case they get injured and should be rested properly for the big matches to come.

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December 23, 2023, 07:24:24 PM
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I think this is something that no team wants. Injuries to key players have a very negative impact on the team's performance, especially if it is an elite level competition such as the Champions League. This is the same as the injuries to Haaland and Kevin De Bruyne at City which will cause their performance to decline drastically. Inter have to face Atletico which is of course a difficult match. It will be interesting to see how Inzaghi will strategize to deal with this problem.
All teams manager have prepare with their squad for facing bad thing exactly main players injury, its very important how to manage teams keep balance level performance between regular and reserves players. I think Simone Inzaghi have alternative scheme when Lutaro Martinez get injury because still has Marcus Thuram with performance almost on the level with Martinez.
Learning from Pep guardiola when De Bruyne injury can manage well Manchester City performance in champion league by giving chance to other player fill in attacking midfielder and give good contributing help Manchester City qualify to of 16 round.
The coach will think about it and anticipate it, but the problem is whether what they have prepared can work well or not. The fact is that some clubs also experience difficulties when they have to play without their mainstay players even if only one player is absent. There needs to be a balance between the main players and the reserve players, and what I see now is where the reserve players have not been able to provide something good when they have to replace the role of the main players.
I'm not going to blame them, because the lack of minutes they get will also affect their performance. And I think there are very few options, because great players will definitely not want to be on the bench and just be a coating. in this case the touch of the game must be maintained, one of which is by rotating players.

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December 23, 2023, 08:24:03 PM
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Dortmund may not be great at Bundesliga, but when it comes to UCL things change, and teams do not play the same. I mean Sevilla won the whole europa cup last season while finishing the league 12th, and that was barely, at one point they were fighting against relegation, so it's clear that it is not going to be all that easy.

I do understand that we are not going to see Dortmund that dominating, or maybe I could be wrong and they could lose too, but it won't be because they played badly at bundesliga. Teams could play bad for a season but have a few good games and those games could mean a lot if they come at the right time. They failed to build a good team this season that much is obvious and that is causing them to have some trouble of course.
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A player like Kevin De Bruyne should also be sold out of Manchester City, he be picking all of these injuries and it's been affecting his game and also his value of and on the pitch. He should be sold out now when they have his value high. A move to one of the Saudi Arabian Premier League would make perfect sense honestly.
Yeah you actually have a point because in most cases if a player stayed this long on injury is very certain that his performance will be seriously affected and going back to his previous performance will be very difficult and when everybody realizes that he is no longer performing the way he use to, it will affect his worth, so just like you said the best way now is to sell Kevin de Bruyne because nobody knows how he is going to perform, well I believe that Pep Guardiola knows exactly what he is doing so I believe he has a plan or perhaps Kelvin de Bruyne first day of the match after recovery will determine if actually he is going to stay on Manchester City or he going to be sold, so I think that's what Pep Guardiola is trying to evaluate before making any decision because he knows how important Kelvin de Bruyne is on Manchester City, so hopefully Kelvin de Bruyne may likely come back fully on January so let's see how his performance will be.

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December 23, 2023, 09:06:24 PM
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I agree that Lautaro Martinez is a key player and his absence would be a huge loss for the team, but they would still not be left without chances. What is so strong about Inter Milan this season is the stability within their team straight through from the defense to the offense. It would weaken their offense and hence the entire game, but it would still not be easy to score against Inter Milan and that is something they are even doing better this year than last year. But in the Champions League obviously you always want all the best players to be healthy and available.
Inter Milan this season is quite strong and the strength of this team extends across all lines, although it cannot be denied that Lautaro Martinez is their mainstay on the front line, but that does not mean that the performance of the Inter Milan team will really depend on Lautaro Martinez.
With what Inter Milan showed in their Serie A matches and also their achievements in the UCL last season, it is only fitting that Inter Milan is favored and taken into account for the title race this season.

Hm this is tricky, I think in a fierce match against the top two or top three teams in the Champions League, the difference in playing with or without Lautaro Martinez would be pretty huge. He has a certain presence and he can influence the game just by being part of the team. I wouldn't compare him to Mbappe, but PSG without Mbappe is totally different from the PSG with Mbappe even if he were not to score. It doesn't matter whether he scores, but the opponent would be forced to take care of him all the time. With the stats that Lautaro Martinez has, every other team knows that you can't lose sight of him during the game and that alone has an effect.

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December 23, 2023, 09:18:26 PM
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PSG are just very lucky that they have one of the most comfortable draws in this stage. However Real Sociedad are still a team not to be underestimated. Because they finished their group as the leader and there was Inter in that group as well. Inter are currently performing much better than PSG in the Champions League.

Therefore PSG had better get well-prepared for this matchup. Otherwise I won't be surprised to see them being eliminated. In the end PSG were nearly finding themselves in the Europa League if it weren't for Milan's comeback against Newcastle.  Grin

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December 23, 2023, 09:35:24 PM
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These injuries are due to them being overworked due to the current schedule. They have games after games, International matches, Cup matches and European League matches if you are from a good team, which Kevin De Bruyne is. Oluwa-btc, So you saying Kevin De Bruyne should be sold is literally absurd. Due to him being injured, Manchester City is really struggling. He, Rodri, and Haaland are the 3 key players I see in Manchester City's squad right now.

So many teams are currently suffering due to a big injury list, Real Madrid, Manchester United and so many more. Some players are injury prone and these tough schedules just multiplies chances of them getting injured. So a team should have a backup ready for the key players just in case they get injured and should be rested properly for the big matches to come.

Erling Haaland, Doku and Rodri are all overworked you feel me? But they don't pick up these injuries just like Kevin De Bruyne. Last season he was also absent but thanks to the availability of IIkay Gundogan, Bernado Silva and Mahrez who made sure of creativity within the club. This is my opinion on the Belgian International. City would not want that though, they're a side with lots of funds to get a replacement for him. Absurd? Say whatever you like, that's your opinion.

Go check how these players get Injured and compare you man with em. Kevin De Bruyne Injury alone affects the club and everything. I don't have lots to saay.

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December 23, 2023, 09:36:42 PM
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PSG are just very lucky that they have one of the most comfortable draws in this stage. However Real Sociedad are still a team not to be underestimated. Because they finished their group as the leader and there was Inter in that group as well. Inter are currently performing much better than PSG in the Champions League.

Therefore PSG had better get well-prepared for this matchup. Otherwise I won't be surprised to see them being eliminated. In the end PSG were nearly finding themselves in the Europa League if it weren't for Milan's comeback against Newcastle.  Grin
After Paris Saint Germain failed to finish as the winners of the group F in the UEFA Champions League group stage, I thought they were gonna face one of the strongest teams in the competition when the draw for the first knockout stage is out but surprisingly to me, they got a fair draw  as they'll be playing Spanish club Real Sociedad in the round of 16.
That been said,  I don't think it'll be a good idea for  Paris Saint German players and manager  to ever underestimate the strength of the Spanish club when they meet each other in February. Football is a game that's full of surprises and if you consider how good Real Sociedad are, I think they have the needed quality of players to shock PSG if given the chance.

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December 23, 2023, 09:57:35 PM
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PSG are just very lucky that they have one of the most comfortable draws in this stage. However Real Sociedad are still a team not to be underestimated. Because they finished their group as the leader and there was Inter in that group as well. Inter are currently performing much better than PSG in the Champions League.

Therefore PSG had better get well-prepared for this matchup. Otherwise I won't be surprised to see them being eliminated. In the end PSG were nearly finding themselves in the Europa League if it weren't for Milan's comeback against Newcastle.  Grin
The comeback can become unpredictable for PSG who had a narrow escape in UCL Group F. Paris Saint-Germain qualify with significant points and the same thing goes with Real Sociedad. PSG have become very competitive than ever before, who knows, this might be their chance of winning the UEFA Champions League title. I've learn to never underestimate any club in the UCL because I believe every club have equal right of winning their opponents. Real Sociedad doesn't have the quality to withstand PSG but they can atleast try their best to hold on the club, I know PSG will not take things easy on the other end.

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December 23, 2023, 10:08:14 PM
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PSG are just very lucky that they have one of the most comfortable draws in this stage. However Real Sociedad are still a team not to be underestimated. Because they finished their group as the leader and there was Inter in that group as well. Inter are currently performing much better than PSG in the Champions League.

Therefore PSG had better get well-prepared for this matchup. Otherwise I won't be surprised to see them being eliminated. In the end PSG were nearly finding themselves in the Europa League if it weren't for Milan's comeback against Newcastle.  Grin

I would be more careful with your wording about Real Sociedad. Inter Milan was not able to beat them at the Guiseppe-Meazza-Stadium and Real Sociedad was the team with more ball possession, which is really tough to do against Inter Milan when they play at home.

In La Liga they are not quite as good this season as I expected them to be, but still beating them is hard. Whenever they lose those games are tight games. I would not think that PSG will have two easy games against them.

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