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December 27, 2023, 08:34:32 PM
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I don't find Barcelona good enough nowadays. They are having a poorer season in the La Liga as well. Their current form there is bad and this has caused them to stay quite behind Real Madrid - Girona duo.  Sad  They made unnecessary point losses in their Champions League group as well. These all combined point out a bad look for Barcelona in general. As a result I wouldn't be confident about them against Napoli in this draw either. At least for now. Because there is still a lot of time to go until the first leg.

Xavi should figure a way out about how the team can get better than this. The team performance should be improved somehow. They are weak at defending especially.
With a long time remaining before the first leg, I think Xavi must be able to strengthen in all areas, especially in defense. As you said, they concede very easily, compared to previous seasons, they have a strong defense. Because Barcelona's defense this season is said to be very weak, it is not surprising that Barcelona in La Liga is far behind in points from Real Madrid and Girona, even in the group phase they lost points that they should have been able to get easily. .

The Barcelona vs Napoli match is difficult to predict because the condition of both teams is not good. If asked, Napoli is getting stronger or Barcelona is getting weaker? I think it's both! I think with the time remaining, they should quickly head in the right direction. There are almost two months left for this match and they cannot afford to make any more mistakes.

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You are right in times of champions League experience between Barcelona and Napoli is obvious that Barcelona is more experience because I believe they have won the champions League up to five times while Napoli has not won the champions league up to that so is really obvious that Barcelona has more champions league experience more than Napoli but however it was quite unfortunate for them that with all the experience they have on the champions League they don't have they experience players that can take them to were they are supposed to be, so I agree with you that Barcelona is more experience while Napoli has more quality players than Barcelona.

Seeing this post, I am interested to see the temporary odds for the two teams who will meet in the 16th round of the Champions League. well, after I saw what the bookmaker provided. it seems that currently the two teams are still predicted to have equal strength, even though Barcelona is said to have more experience. in fact, Barcelona currently has problems, whether it's on the front lines with its goal-scoring players. also, in their defense sector. this season there are factors that are hampering Barcelona, ​​in the front line which is having difficulty completing every opportunity they have, as well as their defense line. Barcelona concedes a lot in its domestic league. just imagine, if Barcelona met a team that was more consistent in performance. maybe, Barcelona is easy for the opposing team to beat. likewise, when Xavi Hernandez's squad visited Napoli, it was not an easy match considering their performance and the odds provided by the bookies.

I want to say that experience alone is not enough. in essence, Xavi must improve his squad. well, since this match still has a time lag, I think Xavi has the opportunity to improve the quality and performance of his team to be much better. apart from that, Napoli cannot be underestimated, even though they experienced a decline in performance in their 2 matches in 2 different competitions. to be honest, I don't really follow Serie A, but because the first leg was held at Napoli headquarters. which means, playing in front of their own supporters will give them the motivation to achieve victory. apart from all that, actually the match between these two teams still has a sufficient time gap for both teams. let's see, every development of these two teams when playing matches in their Domestic League.

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December 27, 2023, 08:44:33 PM
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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here.

Atletico Madrid is definitely a big challenge for them. Simeone's students are doing a pretty good job in the Champions League now. It isn't like in the previous a couple of seasons. While they are this strong Inter would probably have big difficulties in eliminating them.  Sad  They will rely on Martinez's impressive scoring performance quite much in my opinion.
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December 27, 2023, 09:24:15 PM
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Seeing this post, I am interested to see the temporary odds for the two teams who will meet in the 16th round of the Champions League. well, after I saw what the bookmaker provided. it seems that currently the two teams are still predicted to have equal strength, even though Barcelona is said to have more experience. in fact, Barcelona currently has problems, whether it's on the front lines with its goal-scoring players. also, in their defense sector. this season there are factors that are hampering Barcelona, ​​in the front line which is having difficulty completing every opportunity they have, as well as their defense line. Barcelona concedes a lot in its domestic league. just imagine, if Barcelona met a team that was more consistent in performance. maybe, Barcelona is easy for the opposing team to beat. likewise, when Xavi Hernandez's squad visited Napoli, it was not an easy match considering their performance and the odds provided by the bookies.

I want to say that experience alone is not enough. in essence, Xavi must improve his squad. well, since this match still has a time lag, I think Xavi has the opportunity to improve the quality and performance of his team to be much better. apart from that, Napoli cannot be underestimated, even though they experienced a decline in performance in their 2 matches in 2 different competitions. to be honest, I don't really follow Serie A, but because the first leg was held at Napoli headquarters. which means, playing in front of their own supporters will give them the motivation to achieve victory. apart from all that, actually the match between these two teams still has a sufficient time gap for both teams. let's see, every development of these two teams when playing matches in their Domestic League.
If we look at their performance this season, both in the Champions League and the domestic league, both teams have experienced a setback in their game. Both Barcelona and Napoli are of course the two best teams in the previous season and even this season they have quite quality players in their team so this meeting is really difficult to predict the final result of the two legs they will play. However, apart from that, both teams have experienced setbacks in their front lines where their two attackers have not been able to provide their best quality this season, so it is very likely that the next match will result in a draw.

Yes, of course there is still time for both teams to improve the quality of their game because there is still plenty of time for them to improve in terms of their game. Xavi of course doesn't want them to fail again this season because it would be quite disappointing if they had to go out in the round of 16. Barcelona success in the Champions League declined drastically after Lionel Messi was no longer with them, where Barcelona had difficulty making it to the final. We'll see this season whether Barcelona can progress further under Xavi's guidance or will they be knocked out by Napoli.

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December 27, 2023, 09:31:44 PM
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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here.

Atletico Madrid is definitely a big challenge for them. Simeone's students are doing a pretty good job in the Champions League now. It isn't like in the previous a couple of seasons. While they are this strong Inter would probably have big difficulties in eliminating them.  Sad  They will rely on Martinez's impressive scoring performance quite much in my opinion.
Inter still have a pretty good performance to date not only in the Champions League but also in domestic competitions so there is indeed an extra expectation for them especially in this match their status is the previous finalist although this is not too unexpected.
On the other hand, Atletico is also showing a performance that is no less good if we compare it with the previous season Atletico this season is still very good in terms of performance.

At the moment the conditions are still a little difficult to predict because apart from the match is still very long they are also still possible to have a change in performance later but what I can be sure of in this match is that this will be a pretty interesting match especially indeed seeing from what happened in the round of 16 now it looks like 2 big La Liga clubs met the right opponents because they came from 2 big clubs in Serie A because apart from Atletico and Inter in another match we will witness Barcelona facing Napoli.

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December 27, 2023, 09:55:41 PM
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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here.

Atletico Madrid is definitely a big challenge for them. Simeone's students are doing a pretty good job in the Champions League now. It isn't like in the previous a couple of seasons. While they are this strong Inter would probably have big difficulties in eliminating them.  Sad  They will rely on Martinez's impressive scoring performance quite much in my opinion.
Yep. Inter Milan is the finalist of the UCL last season. They must try to reach the final round again, they will try to beat Atletico Madrid. Sure, it won't be easy to beat Atletico Madrid because they played very well during the group stage. Atletico Madrid is the leader of group E, they only got 2 draws and 0 lose. Atletico Madrid showed their quality, they are dominating the group E although there are Lazio and Feyenoord there. Meanwhile Inter Milan is just the runner-up of group D, they failed to beat Real Sociedad.

Well, it won't be easy for Inter Milan to beat Atletico Madrid. But surely they have the chance if they can play more solidly. Inter shouldn't rely on Martinez only, they must play as a solid team if they want to beat Atletico Madrid.

The match between Inter Milan and Atletico Madrid will be very interesting because both teams have good quality players.


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December 27, 2023, 10:05:00 PM
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If we look at their performance this season, both in the Champions League and the domestic league, both teams have experienced a setback in their game. Both Barcelona and Napoli are of course the two best teams in the previous season and even this season they have quite quality players in their team so this meeting is really difficult to predict the final result of the two legs they will play. However, apart from that, both teams have experienced setbacks in their front lines where their two attackers have not been able to provide their best quality this season, so it is very likely that the next match will result in a draw.

Yes, of course there is still time for both teams to improve the quality of their game because there is still plenty of time for them to improve in terms of their game. Xavi of course doesn't want them to fail again this season because it would be quite disappointing if they had to go out in the round of 16. Barcelona success in the Champions League declined drastically after Lionel Messi was no longer with them, where Barcelona had difficulty making it to the final. We'll see this season whether Barcelona can progress further under Xavi's guidance or will they be knocked out by Napoli.
Statistically, Barcelona still has a better record in domestic competitions than Napoli, and if we judge in terms of squad depth, Barcelona is still superior, Xavi has a more balanced squad depth when compared to Mazzarri. In fact, there are many differences, but in terms of the current consistency of the two, They have recorded unsatisfactory results.

I think either Xavi or Mazzarri will make changes to their squad in an attempt to go further in the UCL this season. however, personally I predict that Barcelona with all its attributes will advance to the quarter finals, which does not mean underestimating the strength that Napoli has.

On other hand, reaching the UCL final this season is quite difficult for Barcelona, because there are still teams that are more consistent than them. as we know, Madrid, Man City and Bayern Munchen are the clubs that are the favorites to win the UCL this season. Barcelona will need a lot of luck to get to the final, But I don't think they will be knocked out by Napoli in the last 16.

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December 27, 2023, 11:57:04 PM
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Yep. Inter Milan is the finalist of the UCL last season. They must try to reach the final round again, they will try to beat Atletico Madrid. Sure, it won't be easy to beat Atletico Madrid because they played very well during the group stage. Atletico Madrid is the leader of group E, they only got 2 draws and 0 lose. Atletico Madrid showed their quality, they are dominating the group E although there are Lazio and Feyenoord there. Meanwhile Inter Milan is just the runner-up of group D, they failed to beat Real Sociedad.

Well, it won't be easy for Inter Milan to beat Atletico Madrid. But surely they have the chance if they can play more solidly. Inter shouldn't rely on Martinez only, they must play as a solid team if they want to beat Atletico Madrid.

The match between Inter Milan and Atletico Madrid will be very interesting because both teams have good quality players.
Inter Milan's journey to the UCL final last season demonstrates their ability to step up in knockout stages, and they might draw inspiration from that experience. Knockout stages often introduce a different dynamic where teams tend to approach these matches with heightened focus and determination. Inter Milan is a balanced and cohesive team that has the ability to exploit weaknesses in Atletico's defense collectively, rather than relying solely on individual brilliance.

Inter Milan being UCL finalist might instill a sense of confidence and belief in their ability to compete at the highest level, even against tough opponents like Atletico Madrid. This experience, combined with the knockout dynamics and the potential for strategic adjustments, suggests that they indeed have a chance to prevail against Atletico Madrid. The clash between two quality teams is bound to make the match intriguing and exciting.

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December 27, 2023, 11:59:51 PM
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Real Sociedad is just a middle team in La Liga. They shouldn't be as strong as PSG, their squad depth is surely not very convincingly. PSG has better players in all lines, in theory PSG must win the match.

However, Real Sociedad performed quite well in UCL this season. They never got a lose in the matches of UCL group stage. They even leads the group D, it is impressive to see their achievement in UCL this season. This is something PSG will have to be wary of, they mustn't underestimate Real Sociedad because they played well in UCL.

I also don't care which team to qualify, both are good teams. But PSG should have a better experience in UCL.



But all of this really only serve as weak indicators of which team is better than the other and would hence go to the next round. We have seen plenty of surprises over all those last few months in all competitions. In the Cups, in the UEFA competitions, in FIFA competitions, in domestic leagues. I could mention plenty of great examples where the current position in the table meant nothing for the outcome of the game.

That's why the second part of what you said is important. Real Sociedad had by far the best defense in the Champions League and this is impressive. I think this game will be highly interesting and since I like Mbappe, I would wish for him to make it into the next round.
For this reason, nothing is impossible in football, sometimes we are sure the bet in the club is much stronger but in fact lost quite easily. This is sometimes in the prediction based on the statistics of the strength of the team. Regarding Real Sociedad and PSG PU. Statistically, actually PSG should have things that are much stronger both of them compete quite significantly and tightly. And it's true, whoever the winner is, they deserve for this, because sometimes the match at UCL is quite different in the euphoria. Either Mbappe will stay on PSG after the transfer market or not, this will definitely give a significant effect on PSG itself.

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December 28, 2023, 03:22:41 AM
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Yep. Inter Milan is the finalist of the UCL last season. They must try to reach the final round again, they will try to beat Atletico Madrid. Sure, it won't be easy to beat Atletico Madrid because they played very well during the group stage. Atletico Madrid is the leader of group E, they only got 2 draws and 0 lose. Atletico Madrid showed their quality, they are dominating the group E although there are Lazio and Feyenoord there. Meanwhile Inter Milan is just the runner-up of group D, they failed to beat Real Sociedad.

Well, it won't be easy for Inter Milan to beat Atletico Madrid. But surely they have the chance if they can play more solidly. Inter shouldn't rely on Martinez only, they must play as a solid team if they want to beat Atletico Madrid.

The match between Inter Milan and Atletico Madrid will be very interesting because both teams have good quality players.
Inter Milan's journey to the UCL final last season demonstrates their ability to step up in knockout stages, and they might draw inspiration from that experience. Knockout stages often introduce a different dynamic where teams tend to approach these matches with heightened focus and determination. Inter Milan is a balanced and cohesive team that has the ability to exploit weaknesses in Atletico's defense collectively, rather than relying solely on individual brilliance.

Inter Milan being UCL finalist might instill a sense of confidence and belief in their ability to compete at the highest level, even against tough opponents like Atletico Madrid. This experience, combined with the knockout dynamics and the potential for strategic adjustments, suggests that they indeed have a chance to prevail against Atletico Madrid. The clash between two quality teams is bound to make the match intriguing and exciting.

@arimamib Inter vs Atletico will be a low scoring game because both team’s would like to play it out cautiously and I expect a single goal to make the final difference between who progresses ahead. Lastly last year results don’t matter this year and if Inter wants to beat Atletico then they’ll have to raise their standards because in their current champions league form I doubt that they can beat Atletico easily.
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December 28, 2023, 03:33:33 AM
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PSG has lost it glory now that Messi and Neymar are no longer there.Neymar and Messi were two players who made other teams scared of that team.They did everything possible to be able to win the Champions league,but it wasn't easy for them and most times,they get eliminated from the round of 16, sometimes,they won't qualify from group stage despite having the best players in the world.One thing I have noticed in football is that the coach managing a team has alot of influence on his team.If that team will win anything,it will be because of the coach,if the team will remain stagnant,it will also be because of the coach.This time around,I doubt if PSG will even qualify from the round of 16.

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December 28, 2023, 03:43:07 AM
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PSG has lost it glory now that Messi and Neymar are no longer there.Neymar and Messi were two players who made other teams scared of that team.They did everything possible to be able to win the Champions league,but it wasn't easy for them and most times,they get eliminated from the round of 16, sometimes,they won't qualify from group stage despite having the best players in the world.One thing I have noticed in football is that the coach managing a team has alot of influence on his team.If that team will win anything,it will be because of the coach,if the team will remain stagnant,it will also be because of the coach.This time around,I doubt if PSG will even qualify from the round of 16.

PSG with neymar and messi is victorious, got the champions league trophy how many times.
If the local competition without messi and neymar even before joining PSG has dominated, since buying a Qatar businessman PSG has continued to dominate in the French league.
So without messi and neymar or when messi and neymar are still in the champion league, there is no difference.

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December 28, 2023, 04:07:11 AM
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@arimamib Inter vs Atletico will be a low scoring game because both team’s would like to play it out cautiously and I expect a single goal to make the final difference between who progresses ahead. Lastly last year results don’t matter this year and if Inter wants to beat Atletico then they’ll have to raise their standards because in their current champions league form I doubt that they can beat Atletico easily.
Last season's results are only a sweetener before these two teams meet again on the field. Inter are still very motivated to win the UCL Trophy this season after they failed to reach the podium in last season's final. The positive results achieved by Inter this season provide motivation for them to win the two-legged match vs Atletico, but anything can still happen on the pitch because Atletico will also try to give their best performance.
Inter and Atletico chances are still 50:50, they can still beat each other depending on their performance in the two legs. The match will take place under high tension with lots of buying and selling attacks, anyone who wants to advance to the next round must be able to create unity on the field to put pressure on the opposing team.

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December 28, 2023, 04:15:22 AM
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PSG with neymar and messi is victorious, got the champions league trophy how many times.
where did PSG get the Champions League trophy when there were Messi and Neymar in the team?
PSG indeed dominates French Ligue 1. because there is no other team that has strong finances like PSG. However, rich clubs have the power to bring in great players to build a strong team. and those who don't have money will be eliminated and unable to compete.
I hope this season PSG will show better results. at least to get to the top 4.









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December 28, 2023, 04:29:37 AM
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PSG has lost it glory now that Messi and Neymar are no longer there.Neymar and Messi were two players who made other teams scared of that team.They did everything possible to be able to win the Champions league,but it wasn't easy for them and most times,they get eliminated from the round of 16, sometimes,they won't qualify from group stage despite having the best players in the world.One thing I have noticed in football is that the coach managing a team has alot of influence on his team.If that team will win anything,it will be because of the coach,if the team will remain stagnant,it will also be because of the coach.This time around,I doubt if PSG will even qualify from the round of 16.
coaches are very influential on the future success of a team and just look at some of the teams that were able to get the UCL title, they have intelligent coaches and have a lot of experience in the UCL, whereas PSG only relies on star players, whereas all the players if the coach can't manage it well to improve cooperation. If you are solid, it will definitely be difficult to win a title in the UCL and on the one hand, PSG is always careless in changing coaches when they fail to win a title in one of the competitions and this method will not provide a bright future for the team.

we can see the proof when PSG is able to bring in a coach who has a lot of experience like Zidane or Mourinho who will definitely have better achievements in the UCL and I am not sure if PSG passes the round of 16 because in this round several big teams will continue to strengthen their performance and PSG is not ready to compete with other big teams.

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December 28, 2023, 05:00:06 AM
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where did PSG get the Champions League trophy when there were Messi and Neymar in the team?
I'm surprised you didn't know PSG won Champions League for many times, the trio Mbappe, Messi and Neymar was the strongest trio all the time, no one can beat them.



we can see the proof when PSG is able to bring in a coach who has a lot of experience like Zidane or Mourinho who will definitely have better achievements in the UCL and I am not sure if PSG passes the round of 16 because in this round several big teams will continue to strengthen their performance and PSG is not ready to compete with other big teams.
Zidane was only successful because he managed a strong club, if Real Madrid wasn't managed by Zidane, Real Madrid can still able to become a champion.

Mourinho is an old school manager, he doesn't follow the modern football, his career is over when he make Chelsea fall from 1st position to 10th position in 2015. He doesn't bring anything on the table when he managing Manchester United, Tottenham and Roma.
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December 28, 2023, 05:25:05 AM
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I'm especially curious about what Inter will do against Atletico Madrid in this stage. Because as you can remember one of the finalists was Inter previously. They fought really well against Manchester City and could have even extended the match more if they didn't waste some important chances in the last minutes. Seeing their potential I wonder how this season will go for them here.

Atletico Madrid is definitely a big challenge for them. Simeone's students are doing a pretty good job in the Champions League now. It isn't like in the previous a couple of seasons. While they are this strong Inter would probably have big difficulties in eliminating them.  Sad  They will rely on Martinez's impressive scoring performance quite much in my opinion.
Last season Inter Milan was able to reach the Champions League final and this season Inter Milan wants to achieve it again, Inter Milan is quite good in the Champions League, even in the domestic league Inter is the strongest and most consistent club, even productivity goals Inter Milan is very good. I'm sure Martinez will proved it in the leg their first time in the Champions League, Martinez is Inter Milan mainstay player and Inter Milan defense is also quite strong so I am quite optimistic that Inter Milan will be able to wins it even though they have to fight hard against Atletico Madrid.

Indeed, Atletico Madrid cannot be underestimated, they are an elite club in La Liga, but Atletico Madrid achievement in the round of 16 is quite difficult, just like Inter Milan, but for some reason I feel more if Inter Milan is able to beat Atletico Madrid with the club mainstay players it's quite confident this seasons.

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December 28, 2023, 05:42:30 AM
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where did PSG get the Champions League trophy when there were Messi and Neymar in the team?
I'm surprised you didn't know PSG won Champions League for many times, the trio Mbappe, Messi and Neymar was the strongest trio all the time, no one can beat them.


Are you kidding ?
I don't think it's funny anymore, PSG last season when Neymar, Messi and Mbappe were strengthened, there was no significant improvement in quality and there wasn't even anything they could do to help PSG achieve success on the European stage.
And currently, with their performance quite declining, especially what is expected from PSG, I really never thought that they would be able to win the UCL title even in the next 5 years.

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December 28, 2023, 05:55:57 AM
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For this reason, nothing is impossible in football, sometimes we are sure the bet in the club is much stronger but in fact lost quite easily. This is sometimes in the prediction based on the statistics of the strength of the team. Regarding Real Sociedad and PSG PU. Statistically, actually PSG should have things that are much stronger both of them compete quite significantly and tightly. And it's true, whoever the winner is, they deserve for this, because sometimes the match at UCL is quite different in the euphoria. Either Mbappe will stay on PSG after the transfer market or not, this will definitely give a significant effect on PSG itself.
The match is carried out in 90 minutes of normal time so in this case we also have to know that any possibility can definitely happen in this case regardless of how probabolity the bookmakers who definitely have a favorite in the match (in this match is PSG) but still it cannot be used as a belief that PSG will win easily.

This is the Round of 16 where anything is possible so given the current odds, every chance is there.
Indeed, in terms of experience and club strength, PSG is definitely the favorite in this match and that cannot be denied because anyone must know their strengths and advantages compared to Sociedad but on the other hand Sociedad is also not a club that is easily defeated. This is an opportunity for a small club like Sociedad to be able to seek popularity so indeed in this case they certainly don't want to miss the opportunity they have.

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December 28, 2023, 05:59:36 AM
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where did PSG get the Champions League trophy when there were Messi and Neymar in the team?
I'm surprised you didn't know PSG won Champions League for many times, the trio Mbappe, Messi and Neymar was the strongest trio all the time, no one can beat them.


Neymar and Mbappe may have been PSG mainstay players for several seasons but not for Messi because he has only been playing with PSG since the 2021/22 season.
And after last season Messi went to MLS with Inter Miami so saying they are the strongest trio of all time is not statement appropriate.
In the existing list there is no name PSG who have 14 Champions League titles and the owner of the nickname king of the UCL is still held by Real Madrid with the 14 titles they have won so far.

we can see the proof when PSG is able to bring in a coach who has a lot of experience like Zidane or Mourinho who will definitely have better achievements in the UCL and I am not sure if PSG passes the round of 16 because in this round several big teams will continue to strengthen their performance and PSG is not ready to compete with other big teams.
Zidane was only successful because he managed a strong club, if Real Madrid wasn't managed by Zidane, Real Madrid can still able to become a champion.

Mourinho is an old school manager, he doesn't follow the modern football, his career is over when he make Chelsea fall from 1st position to 10th position in 2015. He doesn't bring anything on the table when he managing Manchester United, Tottenham and Roma.
Players, Real Madrid has perfect players and they have coach who can bring Real Madrid to stay at the top of being the only team with the most titles and the most success not only in La Liga but also in the UCL.
For Mourinho, maybe what you say is true and I agree with that statement.

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