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April 18, 2024, 09:13:41 PM
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Now the Man City vs Real Madrid match has become even more exciting because Man City has also managed to equalize the score at 1-1 thanks to De Bruyne who managed to score a goal in the 76th minute. It turns out it is true that watching the Man City vs Real Madrid match always feels like watching a match. final. Actually, I also want to watch the Bayern vs Arsenal match. but I can't leave this match which was very exciting. But I hope that Real Madrid can also be more aggressive in making attacks and not lose the ball too easily.

The Real Madrid match really does look like a final. And the Bayern vs Arsenal match is quite boring, there are no moments as such, Bayern realised their dangerous moment, there seemed to be something else, but not as interesting as in the MC vs RM match. I think there will be extra time and maybe, given that both teams are tired there will even be a penalty shootout. Especially now they are cursing the referee by the way
I didn't watch the Bayern vs Arsenal match. But it looks like Bayern will make it to the semi-finals and it looks like Arsenal will have to prepare their club better to be better next season. Because UCL is different from EPL. The pressure in UCL matches is much heavier and Arsenal still seems to need better preparation next season.

Man City vs Real Madrid is now entering extra minutes. And yes, it looks like in the extra time everything will be resolved. If not, the penalty shootout could be a tense moment. But I don't like watching penalty shootouts. And I hope everything is resolved in extra time.

In the end, I had to watch the penalty shootout anyway. Not to say that it was boring, it was very tense, and the whole match as a whole was also very tense, I did not see in the second half that Real would adequately build attacks, only counterattacks and mostly they were pressed to the goal, as a result they missed one, but no more. The match was worthy of more than 1/4

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April 18, 2024, 09:19:23 PM
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It must be admitted that Carlo Ancelott's strategy in this match was truly genius. Especially entering the second half, Real Madrid's game plan was to defend as disciplined as possible. Carlo Ancelotti understands the antithesis of Man City's dominant game, namely counter attacks. Luckily he got his moment, he was solid, disciplined and confident. So the game plan worked. Even though they conceded and made the score 1-1, Real Madrid remained confident by implementing a full defensive game until the penalty shootout. I applaud Ancelotti's decision, he is very confident in making decisions.

For me, the penalty shootout is not about luck, it's because the mentality of the Real Madrid players is very good. Just look at Ancelotti who prioritizes defenders as penalty takers, this is a very brave tactic and unexpectedly, the mentality of Real Madrid players is indeed above average. Man City has many great players, but they are not ready to take part as penalty takers.
Basically, both teams hope to win in regular time without knowing what the result will be at the end of the match. Real Madrid, which was leading 0-1 in the first half, was forced to defend because Manchester City really put pressure on Real Madrid's defense with all their abilities, but that didn't allow Manchester City to score many goals.

Andriy Lunin was Real Madrid's savior in the normal time match with several brilliant saves. He basically deserves the respect of all fans compared to Rudiger who is just a winner, but the assessment is different. Without Andriy Lunin, I think several shots on target from Manchester City players would have been goals, including Grealish's volley.

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April 18, 2024, 09:32:03 PM
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What are you saying bro, penalty is always a game of luck  and nothing like the mentality of the players, the game of penalty is pin to every player taking it and I don't know why you are saying this there is no team in this world that someone can term as a professional team when it comes to taking of penalty and I also believe Real Madrid didn't come out planning to defend that game because their is a certain level at which you will be played that the strategy automatically changes to defensive mode.

Actually the Dynamic nature of a strategy could sometimes be the only reason why a strategy works effectively because if a strategy is static such that even when it's been obviously observed not to be effective, it's most definitely going to affect team result a d create a problem for the team because they will not be able to correct the damages that may be caused by such strategy which they have been instructed to work by.

It's normal for a winning team to want to return to the defensive area towards the end of the game so that they will be able to probably protect that which they have been able to secure all along in the game so i don't think it's not a good idea to me dynamic with their strategy because that will also be their edge over their colleague as their colleague may have seen them and their style of playing which will further want to look like their colleagues will want to use against them but the dynamics will now help the team to get ahead of their opponent regardless of how much their opponent try.

The defense Real Madrid did at some point wasn't a change and that was why most of the players were still there but repositioned a d then i think Madrid did what was actually best because they did needed it to continually remain in the champions league because they were faced with a team that was aswell tough too and not a small team so they needed a strategy they would keep them safe at every point.

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April 18, 2024, 09:41:31 PM
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What are you saying bro, penalty is always a game of luck  and nothing like the mentality of the players, (...)

Luck and skill/mentality are not mutually exclusive. Penalty shootout always involves an element of luck but with mental resilience (not cracking under huge pressure) and skill developed e.g. by practicing penalty kicks a team can shift luck to their side.
A penalty shootout is not the same as a coin flip.


Anyhow. Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:



No surprise here, Real is now the favourite with odds of x2.40

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April 18, 2024, 09:57:22 PM
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not only learning from the experience of the first leg but also learning from past mistakes when Man City failed, but Ancelotti is a smart coach who has many ways to find out the right strategy to give Man City a dead end by focusing on Guardiola mainstay players like Haaland and De Bruyne had difficulty scoring because Madrid defense as a whole focused on De Bruyne and Haaland.
after giving each other attacks several times, I thought it looked like Real Madrid would just try to survive until the last minute ended and entered the penalty round and all of that came true without seeing the penalty shootout round. I confidently said that Real Madrid would win and qualify for the semi finals.

in this semi final round, we all know who the strongest candidate is to win the UCL title this season, even though Real Madrid still faces strong obstacles against Bayern Munich, but Real Madrid has more experience to be able to find a way to qualify for the final round.
If Madrid qualify for the final round and Dortmund qualify for the final round, it is certain that Real Madrid will hold the title this season, but if PSG qualify for the final round, I think Madrid will work a little harder because facing PSG will also provide difficulties that they will experience Ancelotti squad.

The UCL Quater finals has been wrapped up and we already have teams who have qualified for the Semis and we saw a lot of surprises in the second leg of the ucl and we will love to analyze them. The UCL never fails to give us the huge surprises as we can see it especially in the qualification of Dortmund against Athletico Madrid.

 For Man City, I think Real Madrid had the better gameplan as they tried to contain Haaland and Kdb, not letting thrm exploits the defense line like they did in the first leg especially for Kdb and Foden. Madrid knew they will be the better ones in the penalty and as such were ready to stretch the game to the penalty which they’re comfortable.

 ⁠Unfortunately for Engalnd, none of their team will be participating in the semi finals stage because even Arsenal lost to a Bayern Munich side that’s not in a very good form. Yes it was expected to be the fate of Arsenal especially after they weren’t able to win comfortably at their home ground, we knew the Allianz Arena will be quite difficult.

 ⁠Ancelotti is one underrated coach already as him being able to defeat Real Madrid twice in the UCL is something that should be considered as a great feat. His tactics he used yesterday was top notch as he was able to contain Man City’s attack. Currently they’re now the favorites to win the ucl and I’m very sure they’ll be able to defeat Bayern in the semis to head to the finals.
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Italy has mathematically reached the possibility of having five teams for the next Champions League.

the incredible thing is that he could even have 6 if the winner of the Europa League does not reach the top 5 of the championship.
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Normally, we know that Tuchel will not even like to stay in Bayern Munich again, because all indications have already been seen, and the poor performance that they are presently displaying will not make me think that they can win the trophy, because they won’t make it against Real Madrid. It will be a very critical win for them, but knowing that Bayern Munich made it to the semifinal by winning against Arsenal is a nice record for them, but going to the finals will be very hard for them.
 
We all know that their performance has been lower than before, and Tuchel has been trying his best but is not working, which might make it hard for them to go home with even a single trophy. So all I think they need is to be patient and not lose this season so that they can get a more experienced coach for next season. Maybe they can do something tangible in the season. 
Well, it seems that Bayern Munich management has clarified for a long time that they will be looking for a new coach at the end of this season, so it is clear that Tuchel hopes of staying with Bayern Munich are hopeless. Indeed, Tuchel succeeded in bringing Bayern Munich to the semifinals by beating Arsenal and of course there is hope ahead of them being able to advance to the final if they succeed in beating Real Madrid.

Apart from that, Bayern Munich are inconsistent in the Bundesliga, but with their strong motivation they have managed to focus their energy on the Champions League. I think Bayern Munich cannot be underestimated in the semifinals because they are a strong team that could possibly stop Real Madrid. The Bundesliga has two representatives in the semifinals and they have a greater chance of bringing the UCL trophy home to the Bundesliga.
I can't say that Bayern Munich is weaker in performance than before, because in my opinion Bayern Munich is quite excellent in performance, it's just that they are a little slow in progress unlike Bayern Leverkusen, it's much better than what we imagined well in its development, I claim there is no setback just slow development.

Tuchel may or may not leave Bayern Munich even though we see that sign, but who should return to Bayern Munich to train, and Tuchel will go where after this? This thing if you think about it will be very difficult, changing coaches too often is also not a good thing for Bayern Munich itself. If Inconsistency is indeed Bayern Munich is experiencing it, and I think next season will be much better if it is fixed, the solution to a team when there are some things that cannot be solved easily, do not have to look for a replacement for a solution, instead of making it easier, but not necessarily.

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I can't say that Bayern Munich is weaker in performance than before, because in my opinion Bayern Munich is quite excellent in performance, it's just that they are a little slow in progress unlike Bayern Leverkusen, it's much better than what we imagined well in its development, I claim there is no setback just slow development.

Tuchel may or may not leave Bayern Munich even though we see that sign, but who should return to Bayern Munich to train, and Tuchel will go where after this? This thing if you think about it will be very difficult, changing coaches too often is also not a good thing for Bayern Munich itself. If Inconsistency is indeed Bayern Munich is experiencing it, and I think next season will be much better if it is fixed, the solution to a team when there are some things that cannot be solved easily, do not have to look for a replacement for a solution, instead of making it easier, but not necessarily.

That sounds like a very strange opinion. Bayern didn't play well this Bundesliga season. They had some games when they thought they could finally leave their fluctuating performances behind them, but then they lost or tied the next game and the weirdest thing this season was that Bayern was at threat no matter whether they took the lead in the game or not. This is something very unusual for them. Normally, if Bayern takes the lead the other teams are more afraid of getting destroyed than hoping to still be able to equalize it. But this wasn't the case this season. They gave away 2-0 leads against Heidenheim twice, lost against Bochum after leading, lost against Bremen at home, lost the top games against Leverkusen and Dortmund. Problem after problem, but only in the Bundesliga and the DFB Pokal.

Now it remains to be seen what's going to happen. Real Madrid has switched on the CL mode again. They are playing worse than their opponents, yet they win the games.

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April 18, 2024, 11:15:18 PM
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I will also say Real Madrid win could have been on luck but their experience also helped them in winning that match and not just mere luck. Not any team can withstand that pressure from Manchester City for that long without conceding many goals from them. In the end, the game ended in a draw and that’s to show that both teams are top notch and the best wasn’t known in that full 90 minutes of the game. Penalty shootout is a game of luck but you’ve to be good to make your game reach the penalties or else you would have been won during the normal 90 minutes game.

In that match, Pep and Ancelotti showed their greatness. In my opinion, both teams showed their greatness. The good attacking strategy shown by Pep's troops was really dangerous and the strong defense strategy shown by Ancelotti's troops.

In my opinion, in a penalty shootout, of course the mentality of the one who kicks the ball and the goalkeeper is tested and of course I don't think it's because of luck, but in the penalty shootout, strategy, ability and mentality are tested and whoever wins means he or she has mastered it all.

When we watch a penalty shootout, it's not only the players who are tense, but also those of us who watch it, sometimes we get tense. Yes, of course Madrid's victory against Manchester City was unexpected, but even though Manchester City lost, they played well and optimally.

Last season Manchester City won the Champions League and now Manchester City's hopes are gone because they failed against Real Madrid and honestly I am curious to see which team will win the UCL this season.











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April 18, 2024, 11:31:27 PM
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I will also say Real Madrid win could have been on luck but their experience also helped them in winning that match and not just mere luck. Not any team can withstand that pressure from Manchester City for that long without conceding many goals from them. In the end, the game ended in a draw and that’s to show that both teams are top notch and the best wasn’t known in that full 90 minutes of the game. Penalty shootout is a game of luck but you’ve to be good to make your game reach the penalties or else you would have been won during the normal 90 minutes game.
It must be admitted that Carlo Ancelott's strategy in this match was truly genius. Especially entering the second half, Real Madrid's game plan was to defend as disciplined as possible. Carlo Ancelotti understands the antithesis of Man City's dominant game, namely counter attacks. Luckily he got his moment, he was solid, disciplined and confident. So the game plan worked. Even though they conceded and made the score 1-1, Real Madrid remained confident by implementing a full defensive game until the penalty shootout. I applaud Ancelotti's decision, he is very confident in making decisions.

For me, the penalty shootout is not about luck, it's because the mentality of the Real Madrid players is very good. Just look at Ancelotti who prioritizes defenders as penalty takers, this is a very brave tactic and unexpectedly, the mentality of Real Madrid players is indeed above average. Man City has many great players, but they are not ready to take part as penalty takers.

The game was wide margin but Real Madrid luckily they came to the semi-final match. Another match win will see Real Madrid into the final, in this case Manchester City did well and the ball was under the control of the Manchester City team for most of the match. But losing on penalties is down to luck, as performance is only possible on the field of play as it has come to fruition. Real Madrid's players found a goal early in the game, but Manchester City's players made them pay in the middle of the game.  But since then, despite a long performance, neither team has seen a goal. Penalties were decided at the last minute and here the Manchester City team fell.

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April 18, 2024, 11:32:38 PM
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This is not a matter of Real Madrid's luck, but Real Madrid knows very well how to beat their opponents well even though they come as guests, because the Real Madrid squad is in the DNA of the Champions League. It is impossible if a big club beats Real Madrid easily, we can see the mentality in  The wake up by Carlo Ancelotti to his team was perfect even though the score was a draw, but the fighting spirit of Carlo Ancelotti's children was very difficult for Man City to contain.
Even it was a lucky factor, Real Madrid deserved to win it because they played more effectively than Man City. Man City already wasted too many chances for scoring goals, specifically De Bruyne. Even if De Bruyne scored a goal in the match, he wasted too many opportunities. I don't understand why De Bruyne becomes a player with a bad shot accuracy at that time. As far as I know, De Bruyne is one of the most accurate players in delivering assists and scoring goals. If we consider this matter, we sometimes can't deny the lucky or unlucky factor.

Anyway, Ancelotti was a proven brilliant coach. He knows how to change the formation and tactics when they played a strong team like Man City. They changed the formation to be a bit defensive to limit the move of some players like Haaland and De Bruyne. In that match, Haaland got difficulty to have good chances for scoring. I think Ancelotti quite success in stopping Haaland.


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April 18, 2024, 11:37:29 PM
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This is not a matter of Real Madrid's luck, but Real Madrid knows very well how to beat their opponents well even though they come as guests, because the Real Madrid squad is in the DNA of the Champions League. It is impossible if a big club beats Real Madrid easily, we can see the mentality in  The wake up by Carlo Ancelotti to his team was perfect even though the score was a draw, but the fighting spirit of Carlo Ancelotti's children was very difficult for Man City to contain.
Pep Guardiola was frustrated because he failed to win Carlo Ancelotti who's headache to him, if not for Carlo Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola would have push to win thr UCL title back to back. Real Madrid are the Champions of UEFA Champions League this season, it's no arguable. For me, I've watch my UCL final and it was against Manchester City vs Real Madrid, because this was one of the crucial game ever and filled with suspense from both sides. Carlo Ancelotti doesn't talk much because he knows his players and have always been the cornerstone to lifts the club's performance to elevated standards.

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I can't say that Bayern Munich is weaker in performance than before, because in my opinion Bayern Munich is quite excellent in performance, it's just that they are a little slow in progress unlike Bayern Leverkusen, it's much better than what we imagined well in its development, I claim there is no setback just slow development.

Tuchel may or may not leave Bayern Munich even though we see that sign, but who should return to Bayern Munich to train, and Tuchel will go where after this? This thing if you think about it will be very difficult, changing coaches too often is also not a good thing for Bayern Munich itself. If Inconsistency is indeed Bayern Munich is experiencing it, and I think next season will be much better if it is fixed, the solution to a team when there are some things that cannot be solved easily, do not have to look for a replacement for a solution, instead of making it easier, but not necessarily.
If you look at Bayern Munich's development in the Bundesliga then it is true because Touchel failed to provide anything good in the championship and they even failed to maintain the dominance they have had for so long. But when it comes to the Champions League, I quite agree with you and it is evident how Arsenal, who is so consistent in playing in the league, had to admit defeat to Bayern Munich. Tuchel does not suit Bayern Munich's style of play and he is unable to motivate the players to remain consistent.

Facing Real Madrid in the semifinals will make things more difficult and Tuchel will again be tested to make big changes to the tactics he uses. If they mismanage their strategy then Real Madrid will make their dreams even worse. It's not easy to face the king of Europe and we also know the experience and mentality of the players when facing Real Madrid.

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April 19, 2024, 03:23:12 AM
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Anyhow. Updated odds for the outright UCL winner:



No surprise here, Real is now the favourite with odds of x2.40

Since Madrid has won the UCL 14 times, there is no doubt that bookmakers favored Madrid to win the competition over other clubs and this is a common thing to see it happens in the UCL. It's still unbelievable that an underrated league like the Bundesliga has sent two clubs to the semi-finals which is surpising many people who saw it. I never expected Dortmund to be so strong like this time.
Terzic only added a few players to the club, including Maatsen and Sancho, but the club performed well in the UCL and im thinking dortmund may be buying them back again. Bundesliga has a 50 percent chance of winning the trophy here. Statistically, the remaining clubs have a 25% chance of making it to the final but it's still only based on the mathematic but any clubs have different potential.

It will really surprise me if PSG can win the match against Dortmund and advance to the final. Another big match is on the way, with Real Madrid taking on Bayern Munich soon. It's hard to predict which club will win the UCL this season.
I believe Bayern is a major threat to Madrid. Real Madrid's odds remain extremely favorable, given that the club has a better chance of winning based on previous results.

When it comes to how strong Real Madrid's squad is, the answer may be very different. Who knows if Dortmund will surprise us and win the UCL this season?

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April 19, 2024, 03:26:17 AM
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madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched
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April 19, 2024, 03:50:29 AM
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I will also say Real Madrid win could have been on luck but their experience also helped them in winning that match and not just mere luck. Not any team can withstand that pressure from Manchester City for that long without conceding many goals from them. In the end, the game ended in a draw and that’s to show that both teams are top notch and the best wasn’t known in that full 90 minutes of the game. Penalty shootout is a game of luck but you’ve to be good to make your game reach the penalties or else you would have been won during the normal 90 minutes game.
It must be admitted that Carlo Ancelott's strategy in this match was truly genius. Especially entering the second half, Real Madrid's game plan was to defend as disciplined as possible. Carlo Ancelotti understands the antithesis of Man City's dominant game, namely counter attacks. Luckily he got his moment, he was solid, disciplined and confident. So the game plan worked. Even though they conceded and made the score 1-1, Real Madrid remained confident by implementing a full defensive game until the penalty shootout. I applaud Ancelotti's decision, he is very confident in making decisions.

For me, the penalty shootout is not about luck, it's because the mentality of the Real Madrid players is very good. Just look at Ancelotti who prioritizes defenders as penalty takers, this is a very brave tactic and unexpectedly, the mentality of Real Madrid players is indeed above average. Man City has many great players, but they are not ready to take part as penalty takers.

The game was wide margin but Real Madrid luckily they came to the semi-final match. Another match win will see Real Madrid into the final, in this case Manchester City did well and the ball was under the control of the Manchester City team for most of the match. But losing on penalties is down to luck, as performance is only possible on the field of play as it has come to fruition. Real Madrid's players found a goal early in the game, but Manchester City's players made them pay in the middle of the game.  But since then, despite a long performance, neither team has seen a goal. Penalties were decided at the last minute and here the Manchester City team fell.


However, Manchester City's players had the majority of possession of the ball. But Real Madrid also attacked enough to draw the match between the two teams. I think Real Madrid have had the best luck in the Champions League, which is why they won against Manchester City on penalties. Because we saw that the two teams were in the most excited state in the first match, just like in the second match, neither team could win the game in the field, the big match was a draw. But in penalties we know luck depends on, and Real Madrid was lucky to win so they put enough effort in this match which is why they succeeded to enter the semi-final. It was a competitive game between the two teams from start to finish, with neither team attacking less, but a last-minute penalty shoot-out saw Real Madrid win the match, and Manchester City were forced out of the Champions League.

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April 19, 2024, 04:15:43 AM
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madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched

Real Madrid have certainly performed well, Manchester City have performed well throughout the season. Relying on luck alone, this Real Madrid win, with every player in the Manchester City team capable. But two goals were accidentally missed due to which Manchester City team lost, but in the main game phase 112 minutes of performance, Manchester City team was ahead. If you notice just one difference, you will understand how strong the Manchester City team was. Manchester City had 33 kicks against the goal post in total and Real Madrid only 8.

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April 19, 2024, 06:52:09 AM
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There was little expectation that Manchester City would be eliminated, but when it comes to penalties, the luck factor comes into play. They should have scored goals in normal time and won the match. After all, Real Madrid is also one of the biggest clubs, this result is not a surprise. Bayern passed the round despite not being much superior. It's difficult to predict who will win the cup, all four teams are the best in the world. It won't be a surprise who wins. Dortmund may be the team with the least chance, but even they have a chance. Real and PSG are bigger favorites.

It is Bernardo Silva's fault because he did not aim to the left or right side. Lunin can easily predict his movements because Silva did not even show gimmick to fool the goalkeeper. I still understand why city missed this important match. I hope the city can get the remaining trophies since city is still having two more chances.
Even though City is leaving UCL and that's not a serious problem, the club still has a chance to win the FA Cup and the Premier League trophy very soon. PSG is far more competent than Dortmund in term of club quality, but I believe we have always underrated Dortmund but this club is always surprising us with many of its unpredictable result. It's because we've seen numerous instances of dortmund qualifying even when they should have been in the hell group.

Dortmund was capable of surpassing it, which is impressive to see. I am confident that Dortmund will soon be able to compete with PSG on equal terms. Dortmund's odds are almost equal to PSG's. No club was favored to win the game in this match because all of them had an equal chance of qualifying.
The slightly gap occurred due to home or away game.

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April 19, 2024, 07:08:26 AM
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Before anyone can boast of getting closer in lifting the Champions League title you have to cross through the fire that burns along the path which is Real Madrid. They are the club with the highest UCL title and for a long time they always qualify in all the Champions league competition every season. Such a team sees the UCL title as something that is their inheritance and no club should be able to drag that with them. One of the most interesting thing about Real Madrid is that they may not be having a good performance in the LA Liga but when it comes to the UCL they drop every habit of mistake or unseriousnes and play with so much power. Right now am having this conviction that Real Madrid will face Bayern Munich in the finals and they would win the league onece again.

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April 19, 2024, 07:23:21 AM
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madrid the only reasonable one here , their mentality is unmatched
Oh look, you're underestimating Bayern Munich who won Champions League for six times, people were speculate Bayern Munich won't qualify, but here we're, Bayern Munich beat Arsenal.

It is Bernardo Silva's fault because he did not aim to the left or right side. Lunin can easily predict his movements because Silva did not even show gimmick to fool the goalkeeper.
In penalty, there are no right or wrong, the only way we can say someone is wrong during penalty when he missed the shot.

Actually you're wrong to say Lunin was predicting the ball, actually Kepa gave an information to Lunin, watch this video https://www.tiktok.com/@skillerhomeihd/video/7359182133723794694

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