UEFA Champions League 2023/24 Season

[masulum]

Many people underestimated Dortmund's chances of winning the semi-finals against PSG simply because the squad included so many unpopular names while dortmund has only one or two popular name on its squad. -snip-

I don't think it's underestimating, but discussing PSG's chances of winning. It is true that PSG is a club that has many star players, that's why people make PSG the favorite team to qualify for the UCL final. Underestimating is when someone says "Dortmund qualifying for the final is just a dream, a mediocre team" or other word that said if Dortmund is bad.

Meanwhile, in this forum, most of them including me, giving a comments about PSG's potential or opportunities which are considered better than Dortmund and maybe going to final. Moreover, the aggregate is only 1 goal, that should be able for PSG to scored more than 1 gol. But, in the end, all of us who thought PSG had a chance of getting to the final were wrong. Dortmund is better than PSG at the moment, and they are deserve to get a ticket to the UCL final, hard work since the group phase has giving good results until the semifinals already.

[tusandii]

January leaving Manchester United and joining Dortmund on loan made the steps Sancho took very right and now he is in the final after Dortmund managed to beat PSG in the second leg last night with an aggregate lead of 0-2. I think no talent is wasted as long as the club and coach can develop the potential of their players.

Sancho was not the winning player for Dortmund like Hummels, who was the only player to score two goals in two different legs, but Sancho's role was very active in damaging PSG's defense with his agility and dribbling. I am very happy to see Sancho in the right place and I hope Dortmund can immediately make him permanent at the end of the season and negotiate easily with Manchester United. Apart from that, Dortmund will still be waiting for their opponents in the final from the winner between Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich later.

Many people doubted Sancho's abilities while playing at Manchester United and he was not ETH's first choice and did not play according to many people's expectations. During the clash with ETH, many thought that Sancho was not a good player because his behavior did not match the game on the field.
However, when Sancho was loaned to Dortmund, Sancho proved to many people that all the accusations against him were wrong, and by bringing Dortmund to the Champions League final it became real proof for Sancho, even though Dortmund was able to reach the Champions League final. not because of Sancho himself but with all his players. Dortmund However, he was one of those who played a role in Dortmund's achievements.
and in the final I hope Dortmund meets Bayer Munich, but Madrid is always the favourite, it will be very difficult for Bayer Munich to beat Real Madrid at home.

Now look at how he smiles giving pain over Manchester United's regret that releases Sancho to Dortmund even though only a loan but actually Manchester United could be better with Sancho but all this was caused by coach Erik Ten Hag.
No one doubted Sancho when he was at Manchester United but Erik Ten Hag as a coach who was too selfish with his own mind did not see how the players and ended with regret.
Sancho is not a mainstay player but look at how he is very agile and with the talent of mastering a very good ball able to make a good contribution to Dortmund and often helps the attack line to put pressure on PSG in yesterday's match.

One of PSG's regret let Dortmund qualify for the final round and that means that if Real Madrid qualified for the final round it would be a guarantee for Madrid to be able to get the Champions League.
But we'll see how Bayern Munich will give resistance in the 2nd leg.

[dzungmobile]

I don't think it's underestimating, but discussing PSG's chances of winning. It is true that PSG is a club that has many star players, that's why people make PSG the favorite team to qualify for the UCL final. Underestimating is when someone says "Dortmund qualifying for the final is just a dream, a mediocre team" or other word that said if Dortmund is bad.

PSG are a big club in Ligue 1 and can be considered the same in Champions League with a lot of money spent last 10 years and even more than 10 years. They can be considered as a big club but are still far to be called as a giant in Champions League. Because what they have achieved so far is less than what Chelsea and Manchester City achieved. They are all rich clubs but Chelsea won two Champions League, Manchester City won one title last season and with PSG, it's zero title.

They need one Champions League title to be recognized as a successful club in Champions League and it will be a first brick for their club to become one of giants there. In two semi final matches with Dortmund, PSG played well but life is unfair for them. Anyway, if they looked at their performances deeply, they would see they still lack of confidence when playing that impacts their results eventually.

[hahay]

Many people underestimated Dortmund's chances of winning the semi-finals against PSG simply because the squad included so many unpopular names while dortmund has only one or two popular name on its squad. -snip-

I don't think it's underestimating, but discussing PSG's chances of winning. It is true that PSG is a club that has many star players, that's why people make PSG the favorite team to qualify for the UCL final. Underestimating is when someone says "Dortmund qualifying for the final is just a dream, a mediocre team" or other word that said if Dortmund is bad.

Meanwhile, in this forum, most of them including me, giving a comments about PSG's potential or opportunities which are considered better than Dortmund and maybe going to final. Moreover, the aggregate is only 1 goal, that should be able for PSG to scored more than 1 gol. But, in the end, all of us who thought PSG had a chance of getting to the final were wrong. Dortmund is better than PSG at the moment, and they are deserve to get a ticket to the UCL final, hard work since the group phase has giving good results until the semifinals already.

I have said before that PSG qualifying for the semi-finals was just luck, because in the quarter-final second leg, Barcelona only played with 10 players. Moreover, at that time PSG were still loss 3-2 on aggregate and then, in the second leg, Barcelona managed to score first. But unfortunately, after that, Barcelona only played with 10 players until PSG managed to turn things around. But in reality, there are still many people who think that PSG played well by successfully making a comeback by beating Barcelona, but the proof in the semifinal against Dortmund was that PSG was really unable to score goals in the two legs played. Therefore, I still bet on Dortmund in the second leg with odds @6.00, and I got the result.

[khiholangkang]

If the two German teams eventually meet in the finals which I know that is not possible, but if that happens it will be a work over for bayern, they have a history and I expect that history will repeat itself, I was one of those sports enthusiast that believe that PSG will defeat Dortmund but it was a disappointing moment to see the same previous result to prevail again, PSG is not a serious team for now, they really need improvement in all ramifications, the team need an urgent rebranding.

Realmadrid has a game to finish today and they are not going to take it lightly with Bayern in this match, though the match might be very difficult for both teams but Realmadrid seem to be the most favourite to win this match, they got the experience, they are also tactical so with this qualities that they possess I think they are fit to defeat Bayern.

In a sense, Real already feels like a winner, and you are right, they should not underestimate Bayern, even though they are not going through the best period right now and there are problems in the team, it is still Bayern with very good players. For PSG, everyone also thought that they would be strong enough to beat Dortmund at home, of course Real is stronger than any other team, but sometimes unexpected results happen.

This conspiracy of feelings will probably happen the same, as before we believed that PSG would have a high probability of winning but in fact it was not like that even though many people favored PSG, but it became a false hope and in the end Dortmund silenced all prejudices about them being underestimated because they did not have the same standards in the domestic league.

Thus will happen tonight between Real Madrid and Bayern Munich, maybe we think that Real Madrid is more mature and more reliable if betting but in situations like this it even makes it difficult for us to predict correctly who will get the victory, of course in terms of players and the state of the team indeed Real Madrid is very fortunate, in addition to tonight's match will be held at Real Madrid's home of course a plus point for Real Madrid, it is natural to get a favorite position. I'm sure 2-0 is possible for tonight and won by Real Madrid.

[salad daging]

I have said before that PSG qualifying for the semi-finals was just luck, because in the quarter-final second leg, Barcelona only played with 10 players. Moreover, at that time PSG were still loss 3-2 on aggregate and then, in the second leg, Barcelona managed to score first. But unfortunately, after that, Barcelona only played with 10 players until PSG managed to turn things around. But in reality, there are still many people who think that PSG played well by successfully making a comeback by beating Barcelona, but the proof in the semifinal against Dortmund was that PSG was really unable to score goals in the two legs played. Therefore, I still bet on Dortmund in the second leg with odds @6.00, and I got the result.

It makes sense if you say that because indeed if Barcelona did not get a red card then the scenario might be different, it's just that when Barcelona started to lose control of the red card then PSG could take advantage of the opportunity and the victory could be called luck.

But other people think PSG is good because they see from some statistics and have some other great players, namely Mbappe, Dembele, Hakimi and many others, it is natural to favor PSG more than Dortmund.

But surely there are many wrong predictions here, including myself, where I bet on PSG, which was initially optimistic that playing at home would definitely win, but the scenario is very different, especially the odds comparison is far different, so it is quite convincing PSG will win.

But you have a strong instinct where you bet on Dortmund with high odds, congratulations friend.

[$anounimus$]

I don't think it's underestimating, but discussing PSG's chances of winning. It is true that PSG is a club that has many star players, that's why people make PSG the favorite team to qualify for the UCL final. Underestimating is when someone says "Dortmund qualifying for the final is just a dream, a mediocre team" or other word that said if Dortmund is bad.

PSG are a big club in Ligue 1 and can be considered the same in Champions League with a lot of money spent last 10 years and even more than 10 years. They can be considered as a big club but are still far to be called as a giant in Champions League. Because what they have achieved so far is less than what Chelsea and Manchester City achieved. They are all rich clubs but Chelsea won two Champions League, Manchester City won one title last season and with PSG, it's zero title.

They need one Champions League title to be recognized as a successful club in Champions League and it will be a first brick for their club to become one of giants there. In two semi final matches with Dortmund, PSG played well but life is unfair for them. Anyway, if they looked at their performances deeply, they would see they still lack of confidence when playing that impacts their results eventually.

Of course, this is quite a suffocating thing for PSG, where they have spent quite a lot of money but still failed to win the most prestigious trophy in Europe. I think PSG's management side needs to be improved as a whole because I see this team as if there is no clear road map. Especially for Mbappe, it seems like he is starting to get annoyed with the situation at PSG, even though he has been given a lot of freedom, including his contract. Failure after failure seems to have become so suffocating for the rich team from France.

[hd49728]

I have said before that PSG qualifying for the semi-finals was just luck, because in the quarter-final second leg, Barcelona only played with 10 players. Moreover, at that time PSG were still loss 3-2 on aggregate and then, in the second leg, Barcelona managed to score first. But unfortunately, after that, Barcelona only played with 10 players until PSG managed to turn things around. But in reality, there are still many people who think that PSG played well by successfully making a comeback by beating Barcelona

With your assessment, PSG were lucky from their group and quarter final matches. They only shown their strength in two matches of round of 16 and that's all. In semi finals, they did not shown their strength well and without luck, they failed as no surprise.

I agree that in two quarter final matches with Barcelona, PSG faced with loss but mistake of Araujo, the central defender of Barcelona with a very early red card, a penalty, helped PSG to come back.

but the proof in the semifinal against Dortmund was that PSG was really unable to score goals in the two legs played. Therefore, I still bet on Dortmund in the second leg with odds @6.00, and I got the result.

Dortmund are different than Barcelona and they did not let PSG to have comfortable space and time to play. Even Dortmund need luck to avoid conceded goals and win after two matches, their performances did not shown any signal of panic.

[mamesso]

~Snip~

In a sense, Real already feels like a winner, and you are right, they should not underestimate Bayern, even though they are not going through the best period right now and there are problems in the team, it is still Bayern with very good players. For PSG, everyone also thought that they would be strong enough to beat Dortmund at home, of course Real is stronger than any other team, but sometimes unexpected results happen.

This feeling arose because they managed to hold Bayern Munich to a draw in the first leg and will play the second leg at Santiago Bernabeu. Real Madrid must play like when they beat Barcelona in El Clasico and must not underestimate their opponents if they want to appear in the final. The factor that makes Real Madrid have to be careful in this match is because Thomas Tuchel has very good statistics when leading his team at the Santiago Bernabeu, Tuchel has a record of 1 win, 3 draws and is unbeaten against Real Madrid at the Bernabeu. I really hope that Real Madrid will appear in the final to present a more interesting match, but anything can still happen in football, like when Dortmund managed to get rid of PSG, who were previously the top team appearing in the final.

[eightdots]

I have said before that PSG qualifying for the semi-finals was just luck, because in the quarter-final second leg, Barcelona only played with 10 players. Moreover, at that time PSG were still loss 3-2 on aggregate and then, in the second leg, Barcelona managed to score first. But unfortunately, after that, Barcelona only played with 10 players until PSG managed to turn things around. But in reality, there are still many people who think that PSG played well by successfully making a comeback by beating Barcelona

With your assessment, PSG were lucky from their group and quarter final matches. They only shown their strength in two matches of round of 16 and that's all. In semi finals, they did not shown their strength well and without luck, they failed as no surprise.

I agree that in two quarter final matches with Barcelona, PSG faced with loss but mistake of Araujo, the central defender of Barcelona with a very early red card, a penalty, helped PSG to come back.

but the proof in the semifinal against Dortmund was that PSG was really unable to score goals in the two legs played. Therefore, I still bet on Dortmund in the second leg with odds @6.00, and I got the result.

Dortmund are different than Barcelona and they did not let PSG to have comfortable space and time to play. Even Dortmund need luck to avoid conceded goals and win after two matches, their performances did not shown any signal of panic.

Barcelona missed a great opportunity because they played poorly and could not resist much. Dortmund was the weakest team among the other teams, but now they are waiting to play the Champions League final. PSG's inability to reflect the football they wanted to play on the field led to their elimination.

Dortmund's biggest advantage is that they do not concede a goal. As you said, they did not panic and finished the match as they wanted. I congratulate Dortmund on this success. Even their reaching the final is a great success when compared to the squad quality of other teams.

[HajiBagi]

what is your prediction for today's match?
yep, I'm sure 90% of you will believe that Real Madrid will qualify for the final round.
in the history of the meeting between the two teams between Madrid and Bayern Munich, it always provides a mystery that is difficult to predict and on the one hand, currently both teams have their own advantages, but from the predictions that I look at more deeply, if the result of the first leg is a draw and in the second leg Real Madrid will not easily allow Bayern Munich to qualify for the final round because last season Real Madrid were defeated by Man City and this season is a big opportunity for Madrid and will not be wasted.
betting on Madrid winning has very good odds but do you have more comfortable betting options such as BTTS or betting on the line?
your opinion is very valuable.

As far as Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City from the champion league and they went to Bayern Munich stadium in Germany and played a draw game against Bayern Munich it is surely clear that Real Madrid can defeat Bayern Munich in Santiago Bernabeu today, Real Madrid is the king when they play in Bernabeu, they always find a way to when even when it remain 2 minute, although I know we are talking about football here and anything can happen but whenever a team like Real Madrid that knows how to handle every team in every situation it is very sure that they can always win, Manchester City are very strong and dangerous than Bayern Munich and Real Madrid defeat them, so even Bayern Munich are not going to be difficult for Real Madrid to defeat.

The match is going to be tough because the both teams are very good but if we check it very well Bayern Munich are having bad performances this season and even in their last match in the Bundesliga league they defeated them, Bayern Munich is not giving any chance of winning any trophy this season so as far as they can’t beat Leverkusen some teams in Bundesliga league I don’t even think they can also win Real Madrid in the champion league,  just an hour to go to watch the best game of the week.

[un_rank]

With the current standings in the competition, the extra slots for qualification for next session n champions league looks to be going to Germany and Spain. If it happens that way, both leagues will present 5 clubs for next season's competition in the new UCL format.

This will mean Athletic Bilbao and Dortmund will be qualifying whether or not Dortmund eventually wins the title.

All focus now shifts to the Bernebeu. Real Madrid are in a very good position but are not ahread yet. The game is still levels and both clubs have the ability to hurt each other. We may very well go to penalties.

- Jay -

[entertheabyss]

January leaving Manchester United and joining Dortmund on loan made the steps Sancho took very right and now he is in the final after Dortmund managed to beat PSG in the second leg last night with an aggregate lead of 0-2. I think no talent is wasted as long as the club and coach can develop the potential of their players.

Sancho was not the winning player for Dortmund like Hummels, who was the only player to score two goals in two different legs, but Sancho's role was very active in damaging PSG's defense with his agility and dribbling. I am very happy to see Sancho in the right place and I hope Dortmund can immediately make him permanent at the end of the season and negotiate easily with Manchester United. Apart from that, Dortmund will still be waiting for their opponents in the final from the winner between Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich later.

Amazing to see one of the top flop to finally find himself from sitting on bench in Old Trafford to becoming a UCL finalist with Borrusia Dortmund. Jadon Sancho never regretted his actions because he was determined to bring on more elite results. Jadon Sancho have finally revived himself to be among the top players that have made positive contributions to the team's development. Borrusia Dortmund are in the UCL final and they tend to face either Real Madrid or Bayern Munich.

[DanWalker]

Dortmund's biggest advantage is that they do not concede a goal. As you said, they did not panic and finished the match as they wanted. I congratulate Dortmund on this success. Even their reaching the final is a great success when compared to the squad quality of other teams.

I did say that there is a chance for Dortmund to actually go to the final of the Champions League. People honestly did not give them a chance because they thought PSG are going to win this even though they would have to overcome a deficit of one goal. Actually, I think it was bad luck for PSG. Because they hit the post six times almost and had a lot of shots. In the end, the finishing actually let them down. Having a total of 30 shots and only five of them being on target is not acceptable, to be honest. And on the other hand, Dortmund was able to score with the few chances that they have created.

Dortmund winning the Champions League and Reus lifting the Champions trophy in the last match of him playing as a Dortmund player, this has suddenly become a lot more interesting.

[Franctoshi]

As far as Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City from the champion league and they went to Bayern Munich stadium in Germany and played a draw game against Bayern Munich it is surely clear that Real Madrid can defeat Bayern Munich in Santiago Bernabeu today, Real Madrid is the king when they play in Bernabeu, they always find a way to when even when it remain 2 minute, although I know we are talking about football here and anything can happen but whenever a team like Real Madrid that knows how to handle every team in every situation it is very sure that they can always win, Manchester City are very strong and dangerous than Bayern Munich and Real Madrid defeat them, so even Bayern Munich are not going to be difficult for Real Madrid to defeat.

This is the kind of game I love to risk on, betting on Bayern Munich to win Madrid,  Just like I said in their previous game that Real Madrid won't win Bayern, I still don't believe Real Madrid will win Bayern Munich in today's game despite them playing at their home, Beacuse I don't see big difference here between the two teams, We might even be shocked to see two German side Dortmund and Bayern Munich meet in the final game after today's match as Dortmund has already secured their spot.

[Luzin]

All focus now shifts to the Bernebeu. Real Madrid are in a very good position but are not ahread yet. The game is still levels and both clubs have the ability to hurt each other. We may very well go to penalties.

The current conditions should make Madrid fans wary. They have to look at the result of PSG vs Dortmund, the host is not a guarantee Madrid can qualify even though they have many advantages. Ancelotti must understand this situation, they must still perform well to make a lot of goals, and maybe a quick goal will make Munich mentally down. Although I am a Madrid supporter, I am quite worried that they will have the same fate as PSG.

[Abu-Naim]

Of course, this is quite a suffocating thing for PSG, where they have spent quite a lot of money but still failed to win the most prestigious trophy in Europe. I think PSG's management side needs to be improved as a whole because I see this team as if there is no clear road map. Especially for Mbappe, it seems like he is starting to get annoyed with the situation at PSG, even though he has been given a lot of freedom, including his contract. Failure after failure seems to have become so suffocating for the rich team from France.

I gave up on PSG winning the Champions League some years back where they almost qualified by winning with good goals margin and end up losing the qualification to other teams like Madrid, Barcelona, and Manchester United.
Also, last season, they had all the players they need to win the Champions League and yet they failed, since them, I am not more taking them serious in the Champions League because I know that despite where they reach, they will still bottled it and that’s what happened yesterday against Dortmund. Mbappe needs to leave PSG if he really wants to achieve great things in football.

Madrid need to be very careful today because Tuchel is a good tactical manager that can study their game and defend it all; but I trust Madrid when it comes to the Champions League, they are playing to win because they have experience about the entire competition. Nevertheless, they need to be careful because Bayern will want to win just as Dortmund did.

[Palakka]

As far as Real Madrid eliminate Manchester City from the champion league and they went to Bayern Munich stadium in Germany and played a draw game against Bayern Munich it is surely clear that Real Madrid can defeat Bayern Munich in Santiago Bernabeu today, Real Madrid is the king when they play in Bernabeu, they always find a way to when even when it remain 2 minute, although I know we are talking about football here and anything can happen but whenever a team like Real Madrid that knows how to handle every team in every situation it is very sure that they can always win, Manchester City are very strong and dangerous than Bayern Munich and Real Madrid defeat them, so even Bayern Munich are not going to be difficult for Real Madrid to defeat.

The match is going to be tough because the both teams are very good but if we check it very well Bayern Munich are having bad performances this season and even in their last match in the Bundesliga league they defeated them, Bayern Munich is not giving any chance of winning any trophy this season so as far as they can’t beat Leverkusen some teams in Bundesliga league I don’t even think they can also win Real Madrid in the champion league,  just an hour to go to watch the best game of the week.

Manchester City ability is of course not in doubt, especially Manchester City status this season is as the defending champion and I think any team that beats Manchester City this season certainly has a great chance to win the Champions League, as we have seen before so far, Madrid this season is certainly a strong candidate to be able to win the Champions League trophy but I think it cannot be guaranteed 100% because indeed at this time Madrid must can beat Munich in the second leg later, after getting the status of La Liga champions this season, of course Madrid now no longer has a burden in the league so they can focus on facing the second leg match later.

To be honest, before Munich managed to beat Lazio in the round of 16, Munich at that time was also underestimated for their poor performance in the league, as well as before against Arsenal in the quarterfinals, Munich was also very underestimated after they lost several times in the league and in the first leg we  also underestimated to win or even draw against Madrid, And today Munich were again, again and again underestimated in the second leg, so I think it's quite surprising at the moment, because Munich continue to be underestimated even though we all know they are no longer focused on the Bundesliga game at the moment.  

[Youngnelly080]

All focus now shifts to the Bernebeu. Real Madrid are in a very good position but are not ahread yet. The game is still levels and both clubs have the ability to hurt each other. We may very well go to penalties.

I don't see the finals heading to penalties. Though the two teams are in good forms, but real Madrid has a higher chance of winning the champions league and this higher chance wont exceed the 90 minutes giving. But if Dortmund are really determind to win this league title the should put in more effort as to say this is not quarter or semi finals.
I'm rooting for real Madrid. But i actually wanted my team man city to go to the finals. Never the less real madrid all the way.

[Spaceman1000$]

Unfortunately, once again my prediction was not right.
I was expecting to see a much better performer from PSG and I was hoping to see PSG winning this match against Dortmund since they are playing at home and they had much better and more expensive players.
This way PSG could be in the Champions League final match for the first time and this could be a great achievement for them and specifically for this coach Enrique. But it seems Mbappe's last chance to be in the final match with PSG fails and he will leave the team without any Champions League achievements.
However, one good reason for Dortmund to have this good performance was the great defensive performance they had against PSG.

I think not only your prediction but many people out there are also wrong in their predictions because the home match will likely give PSG more motivation to show that they really deserve to be in the final like several seasons ago, especially since they are only one goal behind, that can be seen It's easy for PSG to catch up and even take the lead in this match, but you can see that they played as well as possible but strangely the 30 attempts they had all failed.

For Dortmund, this was certainly a surprise because they were not a team that was taken into account from the group phase because since the group phase they were already in a tough group with AC Milan and also PSG, but in fact, since the group phase, Dortmund became a fairly stable team so that they finally made it to the final.
Maybe their surprise will continue in the final? because whoever their opponents will be, Dortmund are still not the favorites to become champions.

For Dortmund to have survived in that tough group, it should tell you that they are a good team with a public view of being an underdog. Since the group stage, they've been coordinated with their style of play, they don't have players that are widely known, the team is more of a conglomeration of average players with one mindset.

PSG on the other hand played fantastically, they pushed for goals, they created opportunities to score, they literally pressured Dortmund the whole of that game, no doubt they deserve a draw at least, but it was just so unfortunate that the opportunities  mbappé and dembele had didn't just get through to the net, for me I think it was more of hard luck for Paris Saint Germain.