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May 16, 2024, 05:28:22 PM
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Nobody wants Real Madrid to win another CL except for Madrid fans.

It's good that Dortmund's fans are behind the players. But that's not really relevant when half of the Webmley staduim is going to be filled with celebrities and iShowSpeed youtuber types anyway. The fans will really not be able to do anything to help them in the final, so it's up to the players to stop them.

I don't have my hopes up though. It's gonna be like that Man City vs Inter final last year, won't it.
Quality difference is increasing with huge investments are making things pretty dull even few teams like we have in few leagues are doing good job without huge investments but still things are not like we have few years back and fans want to have some interesting with in this game we are going to have on papers no competition for the Real Madrid like we have in last season while we have Inter Milan vs Manchester City and most chances result is also going to happen like this even peoples want to have new champions which is looking not easy.

After decades, we are having Dortmund into final and surely their fans are desperate for their win as well after beating teams like Atlético Madrid and PSG we can expect them to have good fight till end with any team can win and having title into their hands, but Real Madrid is always ready for the all situations which make them one of the best into soccer world.

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May 16, 2024, 05:44:16 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Dortmund in the coming final match with Real Madrid will lack of a world class striker like Robert Lewandowski years ago when he scored four goals against Real Madrid. Dortmund in this season have main of their strength from team working and they don't rely too much on any single star player. This makes Dortmund is an united team with considerable strength to play together, against many strong opponents.

They can play defensive and attacking as a united squad for a common objective of their team and their players are very disciplined to follow tactical commands from their coach. Together with a team-working strength, they will challenge Real Madrid a lot in the final even they are not favorite team to win the match.



There is no doubt that Dortmund is the strongest team in the Champions League this season. They are very cunning. Dortmund's defense is particularly strong. And that's why Dortmund's gameplay against PSG in the semi-final was so stable. And both matches were won by Dortmund.

Dortmund have won the Champions League title once and finished runners-up once in their Champions League history. Dortmund won the Champions League title in 1997. Dortmund became champions in 1997 after defeating Juventus in the final. And in the 2013 final, Dortmund lost against Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League platform. On the other hand, this season Dortmund team is tactical. So the Dortmund vs Madrid match looks to be a very competitive one.
Personally, I don't think that Dortmund is the strongest club this season in the champions league because they have not lifted up the trophy yet, neither will they survive the finals against Real Madrid. I am not a Real Madrid fan, but one thing I can remember is that when it comes to the champions league finals which involves Real Madrid, they have never lost it. I don't think that this season will be a different one since they have enough experience of playing the finals, while Dortmund lack experience of playing UCL finals.

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May 16, 2024, 05:55:22 PM
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By the way, Anceloti was able to surprise in the matches with City when he chose a defensive strategy against City, it was very unexpected and Real showed that, if necessary, they can defend very well. But in the matches with City everything was decided in a penalty shootout, because the teams played very well, the matches were equal and it was very difficult to determine the winner from the game. And penalties are, to some extent, luck and the skill of the goalkeepers. Lunin really was better that evening. By the way, who will Ancelotti put in the final, Courtois or Lunin?
Lunin made a big contribution when Real Madrid managed to get rid of Manchester City in the penalty shootout, his skills in reading the direction of the ball were worthy of appreciation and he managed to prove to Ancelotti that he deserved to be included in the main squad. In the last two matches Real Madrid played in La Liga, Ancelotti always entrusted the goalkeeper position to Courtois, perhaps in the final match Ancelotti will again include Courtois name in the main squad when Real Madrid faces Dortmund.
I don't really care which goalkeeper Ancelotti plays, both have the quality to fill the main squad. Ancelotti, who is very experienced in arranging strategy, will certainly have full confidence in the players who will be included in the main line-up, their success in maintaining their performance will give them an advantage in this final.
25 years old Ukrainian having good time in this season with his effort against Manchester city was impressive, and he is surely going to have good career ahead as he is having good skills of reading players directions which we watch in quarterfinal against Manchester City which making him first choice goalkeeper for the Champions League, and he is surely currently one of the best players like we have few best in business for the Real Madrid but as reports are coming most chances we are going to have Courtois into final game against Dortmund which is also good as he is also doing good.

Carlos Ancelotti is one of the best coach in current era as he understands all situations and playing conditions which helps his team for having their best if they are going to win this could be historic moment for them with they are going to have second double in just three years which is never been easy for any team.

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May 16, 2024, 06:01:16 PM
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Lunin staying at Real Madrid would be a very tough thing, I really doubt that will happen. Curtouis is back and he has shown again last game that he hasn't lost a single bit of his skills after the injury, it was a very tough injury that is right, and I do expect Lunin to start at the final game, you do not just stay injured all season long and start playing at the UCL finals, that would be weird, not unlikely and could still happen but I do expect Lunin to play instead.

But that still doesn't mean that Lunin will stay, I think they will go back to Courtois soon enough and next season he will be their goalkeeper. Lunin and Joselu looks like the two players I am pretty sure they will not be working with next season, and Modric seems ot be leaving as well.
Little difficult position currently for Lunin after Curtouis return back from his injury, played last three consecutives matches in domestic league make Curtouis has rumor will get regular position for Champion League final match against Dortmund. Its still speculation behind Lunin has be regular goal keeper for Real Madrid in Champion League matches since phase group until success qualifying to final round. Actually its very interested how compete goals keeper when having quit well performance and make Carlo Ancelotti little difficult to choose who will get regular position for the final match.

The Champion League final match left two weeks later and its too interested for Madrid fans celebrate the 15 of Champion League trophies, seems its not problem for defeating Dortmund although they have unpredictable performance after success qualifying until reach the final round of champion league.

 
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May 16, 2024, 06:14:16 PM
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Real Madrid are the kings of the UCL, they have quite a high mentality when playing in the UCL final match and also the opponent they will face is Dortmund who are not stronger in strength than Real Madrid so it is natural that Real Madrid are favored and they are quite confident.
However, this should not be excessive because in the final match anything is possible to happen so Real Madrid still has to be wary of Dortmund.

At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.

Dortmund is underdog ofc but I think it will make them play all out without big pressure so I think it wont be an easy final match for Real Madrid.
Without a doubt Real Madrid is favorite, aside the fact that they have better squad, they have better experience and history in UCL.
I myself willing to see Dortmund to win the final match, not because I dont like Real Madrid but because I'd to see a new winner although Dortmund had won it once in 96/97.

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May 16, 2024, 06:15:11 PM
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And the fact that Dortmund has managed to reach the Final also indicates that this team really has its own way of overcoming the strong teams they have faced. And this method has brought them to the final stage. So Real Madrid really needs to be careful. And from what I have observed, this team even has quite fast surprise attacks. which even overwhelmed PSG several times in the semi-finals yesterday. And we have to admit that Dortmund actually also seems to have very high luck. for example, how many times PSG almost scored a goal but always hit the post and crossbar. One or two times might have been a coincidence but if I remember correctly PSG almost scored a lot of goals and 4 of them hit the post and crossbar. And even Mbappe, who shot from in front of the Dortmund goal, was unlucky at that time because his shot hit the crossbar. So even though Real Madrid may have a better performance, we never know which club luck will side with.

Talking about the final match, any team that enters the Champions League final has a chance to become champion. Even though we know very well the depth of the squads of these two teams, there are quite obvious differences. In fact, Real Madrid are much more favourites, regardless of Dortmund's luck in the semifinal match against PSG. Nevertheless, I appreciate Dortmund in the Champions League competition. Terzic was able to bring Dortmund this far, even though their performance in the domestic league has really declined. Dortmund's only chance of winning a trophy is the Champions League, although Real Madrid is far more likely to win the championship trophy. however, I often say. In football, it is unique, a strong team does not always guarantee that it will win the match. although theoretically, Carlo Ancelotti's squad should be able to overthrow Dortmund in the normal time of 2×45 minutes. What's more unique is that this match brings together Bellingham and his old team before going to Real Madrid. A very memorable match for Bellingham, and also Borussia Dortmund.

By the way, we agree on one thing, as I said above. Even though Real Madrid has a high chance of winning the title, the result of this match does not guarantee a landslide victory for Madrid. One mistake could have fatal consequences for Carlo Ancelotti's squad. Moreover, it is very likely that Dortmund will take this match to a penalty shootout. At the very least, Terzic knows very well that by playing more openly or with offensive tactics, he can destroy his squad quickly. like in the match against PSG, Terzic will apply a counterattack pattern. well, there are no other words to know how this match will turn out, namely when the battle between these two teams is held, so let's just wait.


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I mean 1.63 odds for Real Madrid to win on regular time, are really good one odds for everyone who is gonna back Real Madrid.

I think when we are gonna be more nearby to the final date we are gonna see or expect other odds, more like 1.5 for Real Madrid, when more people put more bets on them and the market made a correction.

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May 16, 2024, 06:45:42 PM
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1.63 odd is very good for Real Madrid and they will win any of their opponents because they are the best
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Nobody wants Real Madrid to win another CL except for Madrid fans.
Because they has up to 14 and dortmund need it more than them
It's good that Dortmund's fans are behind the players. But that's not really relevant when half of the Webmley staduim is going to be filled with celebrities and iShowSpeed youtuber types anyway. The fans will really not be able to do anything to help them in the final, so it's up to the players to stop them.

I don't have my hopes up though. It's gonna be like that Man City vs Inter final last year, won't it.

well I decided to bet on Real Madrid so I basically support Real Madrid
I am certainly not a fan, but I like the team: how they play, their philosophy, they have a coach who I respect and respect

So for me it is natural to support the Spanish team between the two Smiley and i think RM win the cup
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There is no doubt that Dortmund is the strongest team in the Champions League this season. They are very cunning. Dortmund's defense is particularly strong. And that's why Dortmund's gameplay against PSG in the semi-final was so stable. And both matches were won by Dortmund.

Dortmund have won the Champions League title once and finished runners-up once in their Champions League history. Dortmund won the Champions League title in 1997. Dortmund became champions in 1997 after defeating Juventus in the final. And in the 2013 final, Dortmund lost against Bayern Munich.

Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League platform. On the other hand, this season Dortmund team is tactical. So the Dortmund vs Madrid match looks to be a very competitive one.
And the fact that Dortmund has managed to reach the Final also indicates that this team really has its own way of overcoming the strong teams they have faced. And this method has brought them to the final stage. So Real Madrid really needs to be careful. And from what I have observed, this team even has quite fast surprise attacks. which even overwhelmed PSG several times in the semi-finals yesterday. And we have to admit that Dortmund actually also seems to have very high luck. for example, how many times PSG almost scored a goal but always hit the post and crossbar. One or two times might have been a coincidence but if I remember correctly PSG almost scored a lot of goals and 4 of them hit the post and crossbar. And even Mbappe, who shot from in front of the Dortmund goal, was unlucky at that time because his shot hit the crossbar. So even though Real Madrid may have a better performance, we never know which club luck will side with.
I know that Real Madrid will make mistakes, that will make Borussia Dortmund players to make their dreams to come to reality because they have some talented strikes that know how to cause penalty in their opponent goalpost, and they will like to use such strategy to frustrate Real Madrid agenda in this game.

People thought Borussia Dortmund will not beat PSG in that semi-final, but Borussia Dortmund seriousness in that game made people to believe in their strength in this season, which they will use that strength to stop Real Madrid not to display what they used to display before in other games.

I guess Borussia Dortmund will be the lucky team in this final game, because they have showcased some signs that will make Real Madrid to Play the game with tensions to lose.

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Lunin staying at Real Madrid would be a very tough thing, I really doubt that will happen. Curtouis is back and he has shown again last game that he hasn't lost a single bit of his skills after the injury, it was a very tough injury that is right, and I do expect Lunin to start at the final game, you do not just stay injured all season long and start playing at the UCL finals, that would be weird, not unlikely and could still happen but I do expect Lunin to play instead.

But that still doesn't mean that Lunin will stay, I think they will go back to Courtois soon enough and next season he will be their goalkeeper. Lunin and Joselu looks like the two players I am pretty sure they will not be working with next season, and Modric seems ot be leaving as well.
Real Madrid are in possession of amazing goal keepers that specifically knows how to deliver their tasks. It's been really tough moment for Real Madrid when most of their key players was injured. Thibaut Courtois sustain a longterm injury, Los Blancos signed Arrizabalaga Kepa as his replacement which also didn't end well because he picked an injury, now they settled for their third choice goalkeeper, Andriy Lunin who have been nothing but helpful for Real Madrid, making the possible saves he could and also confident towards facing the fierce opposition on the pitch. I think Real Madrid will have a tough time selecting their top choice for next season because Thibaut Courtois and Arrizabalaga Kepa have returned from injury and fit for matches.

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I mean 1.63 odds for Real Madrid to win on regular time, are really good one odds for everyone who is gonna back Real Madrid.

I think when we are gonna be more nearby to the final date we are gonna see or expect other odds, more like 1.5 for Real Madrid, when more people put more bets on them and the market made a correction.
Real Madrid are given small odds,but Dortmund will definitely surprise them.I've said it before,and I'm still repeating the same thing,that night is going to be a tough night for Madrid.
Dortmund have been in this competition for years now,and they really know this is the only opportunity of grabbing the trophy,if they can draw Madrid and go to extra time with them,and then penalties,there is every chances they might go home with the trophy, because at that stage,it is now the goal keepers who will decide whether they win or not.

 
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May 16, 2024, 07:12:26 PM
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I mean 1.63 odds for Real Madrid to win on regular time, are really good one odds for everyone who is gonna back Real Madrid.

I think when we are gonna be more nearby to the final date we are gonna see or expect other odds, more like 1.5 for Real Madrid, when more people put more bets on them and the market made a correction.

It seems, it won't change as much because after all, when the match hasn't started then the change is only low or maybe even unchanged. Unless, when they do a live bet then the odds will also change depending on the statistics that occur in the match. But I think, if you want to get bigger odds, then maybe you can choose the asian handicap option for Real Madrid maybe -1.5 or maybe -2.5. Because it seems,when Real Madrid might score first,then maybe Dortmund will play more openly and if that happens, then maybe there will be more goals. But indeed, if Dortmund keep playing defensively despite being behind, then maybe the match will only have a low goal total.

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May 16, 2024, 07:14:34 PM
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I mean 1.63 odds for Real Madrid to win on regular time, are really good one odds for everyone who is gonna back Real Madrid.

I think when we are gonna be more nearby to the final date we are gonna see or expect other odds, more like 1.5 for Real Madrid, when more people put more bets on them and the market made a correction.
Real Madrid are given small odds,but Dortmund will definitely surprise them.I've said it before,and I'm still repeating the same thing,that night is going to be a tough night for Madrid.
Dortmund have been in this competition for years now,and they really know this is the only opportunity of grabbing the trophy,if they can draw Madrid and go to extra time with them,and then penalties,there is every chances they might go home with the trophy, because at that stage,it is now the goal keepers who will decide whether they win or not.

I agree with you. Real Madrid are very experienced in the Champions League. And even if you compare these two teams, the Real Madrid team has to be ahead, but it is not going to be easy for Madrid to win the final against Dortmund.
We looked at Dortmund's overall performance against PSG. Dortmund's defense was very strong in this match. The defenders are able to perform well, and Dortmund's match tactics are also good. This is why it is going to be very difficult for Madrid's players to break Dortmund's defence.

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Personally, I don't think that Dortmund is the strongest club this season in the champions league because they have not lifted up the trophy yet, neither will they survive the finals against Real Madrid. I am not a Real Madrid fan, but one thing I can remember is that when it comes to the champions league finals which involves Real Madrid, they have never lost it. I don't think that this season will be a different one since they have enough experience of playing the finals, while Dortmund lack experience of playing UCL finals.
As a Madridista, it's a good idea for Real Madrid not to underestimate Dortmund, because Dortmund has beaten Real Madrid with a landslide score in the past. Indeed, this is not a reference, but this also needs to be taken into consideration considering that Dortmund's journey this season in the UCL League from the group phase to the final is a very difficult path so their presence in the final does not matter. luck.

Their performance in the UCL league can be said to be very solid, even though they perform poorly in the domestic league, the final usually brings surprises and even though currently Real Madrid are very favorites to get the 15th trophy. but this could fail if they underestimate Dortmund, let alone make mistakes in the final.

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Well, in the final anything can happen. Unexpected things can also happen. But the problem is that Real Madrid very rarely loses the title when they reach the final round. Dortmund's performance in the last match in the Bundesliga was also not very good. It's just that Dortmund has more preparation time to face the Final match in the Champions League. Because the Bundesliga season will end this week. So Dortmund only has 1 more match in the Bundesliga after that Dortmund has no other schedule before the UCL final. So Dortmund can take advantage of this to make more thorough preparations. Meanwhile, Real Madrid has 2 matches to face before competing in the UCL Final. But for Real Madrid maybe that is normal. So Real Madrid will always be ready for any situation. But we really shouldn't be too confident in the team we like.
Real Madrid have won their last 8 Champions League finals so far, so of course they are also predicted to win 9 finals in a row this season. The last time Real Madrid failed in the Champions League final was in 1981, that was a long time ago. This season Real Madrid is clearly the favorite to win it, but Dortmund is not a team to be underestimated.

You are right, everything is still possible because the title winner will be determined after the match is over, not before the match starts. Dortmund have a chance to win the title, but they are not favorites compared to Real Madrid. I believe Real Madrid have a bigger chance, they will probably win it.

Anything can happen, we know, but it will be a very critical decision to have high hope for Dortmund to win the final, not for players or performances but for fans and supporters. Real Madrid have more supporters than dortmund, and we all know that history is meant to repeat itself, but this history will be hard to repeat itself, just as you mentioned the last time they lost a championship league final in 1981, which was a far past, so I don’t still think dortmund will make it to win the trophy because it will even be a disgrace for Real Madrid and even ancelotti that they lost a final game in 2024, and it will never be a forgettable memory, so Real Madrid will never allow that to happen because they will not be able to face such a disgrace. 

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May 16, 2024, 08:56:58 PM
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UEFA Champions League is game of quality and consistency with surprises and upsets are also part of this as well before start of the season no one were expecting they are going to have Borussia Dortmund and Real Madrid into final because there were too many strong teams which were giving good performance were favourite, but we have them into final which is huge upset, and now we are expecting good match between two teams even mostly peoples are expecting this is going to be one-sided win for the Real Madrid as they are having good and competitive squad which is giving his best throughout season.

But, as we all know we can expect any result so Borussia Dortmund fans are also excited about this final and looking for their team to win this title second time into their history even their performance was not good into Bundesliga where they are ending at the fifth spot.
Dortmund is not a top team so it is difficult to guess whether this team will make it to the final. The Champions League can always bring surprises, which sometimes makes some people have to accept the harsh reality of the betting market. Real Madrid has always been the favorite and I'm not that surprised that they were able to reach the final, in fact quite a lot of people have said that they will be able to easily beat Dortmund to win their 15th title. However, I still hope that the match can be quite tough and not one-sided because if we refer to the Bundesliga, Dortmund is not worthy of being the champion.

Wembley Stadium will be a historic stadium for Dortmund if they win the match against Real Madrid. Dortmund won their first title in the 1996-1997 season when they beat Juventus in the final, while Dortmund failed in their last final in the 2012-2013 season when they were defeated by Bayern Munich. Uniquely, Dortmund failed at Wembley Stadium from Bayern Munich, but at that time Dortmund advanced to the final after beating Real Madrid in the semifinals with an aggregate of 4-3.

Dortmund will try their best to win their second Champions League title rather than let Real Madrid easily win their 15th title. I'm not sure Dortmund can win a game that many people don't consider them favorites, but anything can happen.

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May 16, 2024, 09:09:15 PM
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At the moment, the odds for the Champions League final Dortmund - Real Madrid are as follows:

4.80 - 4.40 - 1.63

Real is the favorite based on literally everything (the selection of players, the position in the national championship, the difficulty of the path to the final that had to be overcome), but Dortmund also has a chance. Dortmund is the kind of team that can beat anyone on a good day, so the final will not be easy for Real.
Based on the odds, we can see that the chances of winning are bigger than Real Madrid, although Dortmund will face this with all their might even for the Bundesliga match alone Dortmund still suffered a crushing defeat while Real Madrid is still mighty with its victory.

In essence I will pick Real Madrid to win there is no other reason for this even though there are those out there who favor Dortmund as a mediocre team capable of beating Real Madrid in the final.

On paper everything looks obvious and against this background +63% looks like easy money, so I think there is a catch somewhere  Grin I understand that in a single game everything is possible and many Real Madrid haters bet on Dortmund (thus distorting the odds), but still betting on Real Madrid looks like an easy choice.
But in fact, I am biased (I support Real Madrid) so you should not rely on my opinion.

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May 16, 2024, 09:10:15 PM
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Wembley Stadium will be a historic stadium for Dortmund if they win the match against Real Madrid. Dortmund won their first title in the 1996-1997 season when they beat Juventus in the final, while Dortmund failed in their last final in the 2012-2013 season when they were defeated by Bayern Munich. Uniquely, Dortmund failed at Wembley Stadium from Bayern Munich, but at that time Dortmund advanced to the final after beating Real Madrid in the semifinals with an aggregate of 4-3.

Dortmund will try their best to win their second Champions League title rather than let Real Madrid easily win their 15th title. I'm not sure Dortmund can win a game that many people don't consider them favorites, but anything can happen.

I think that the international final is eventually more exciting to fans than a German - German final. Finalist is finalist, yes, but it still is somehow different when a team wins against Real Madrid, while themselves being a team from the Bundesliga that is not called Bayern. As there has been a final already between Dortmund and Bayern, I think this is about the best outcome for everyone. I hope it will be fun to watch and Real doesn't kill Dortmund in the first 20 minutes.

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May 16, 2024, 09:12:21 PM
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Right now I'm thinking of placing my bet on Dortmund cause those big odds could end up coming in for me, not like I feel that Dortmund could win either bayern or real Madrid but you know when ever a small team or rather least expected team gets to the final, the fairly tale story would most likely be finished with the taking the lead and winning the Cup, it's not to bad to place a stake in an unexpected event.

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