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May 20, 2024, 01:14:29 PM
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I'm really happy to see there will be many black horse qualify for Champions League in the next season.

In Premier League, there's Aston Villa.
In Serie A, there's Bologna.
In Bundesliga, there are Leverkusen and Stuttgart.
In La Liga, there's Girona.

Aston Villa and Girona seems not that strong anymore, so I will not expect too much. While Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Bologna, they're recently become really strong.
You are right, there are several other teams that will take part in the UCL next season, this is dark horse figure that will make it difficult to fight for the title in the knockout phase and of course they are team that has improved the quality of play very well this season.
But I think the only thing we can hope for from some of these teams is Leverkusen and for the others they might only be eliminated in the group phase or at best the round of 16.
It just that we will never know how they will perform next season, whether they will get better with more significant improvements or even experience decline in performance.
They are team that cannot perform consistently and it will certainly be difficult to expect much from this team, for Leverkusen itself, as long as they are still with Xabi there are still big hopes.
These clubs will certainly enliven the UCL competition next season. I can't wait for these clubs to appear with their best performance next season, especially seeing the latest performances of Bayer Leverkusen and VFB Stuttgart which broke the dominance of the Bundesliga. Hopefully these German clubs will further improve the quality of their performance this season. ahead and better than this season for VFB Stuttgart maybe not so convincing but hopefully my predictions are wrong usually these clubs have difficulty if they have a busy schedule.

I also believe that as long as Bayer Leverkusen is still in Alonso's hands Bayer Leverkusen will definitely still have good performance and will further improve the quality of its players next season, Alonso's intelligence in setting strategy is no longer in doubt but we can't predict it at this time but what is clear is that I want to see changes which is quite surprising in the fight for the UCL title next season.
Among these teams, I think Leverkusen appearance in the Champions League is eagerly awaited by everyone, considering that many people are wondering whether Xabi fleet will be able to continue its impressive season next season. Aston Villa, Girona, Bologna and Stuttgart are also very lucky to be able to enter the Champions League competition next season. As a dark horse team, who knows they could create many surprises that we never expected.

If these dark horse teams are in an easy group, their journey in the Champions League next season might exceed their target. However, Madrid, City, Bayern will still be the most serious championship contenders, but it would be very interesting if Leverkusen were included in the list of teams being taken into account.

On the other hand, the pressure and challenges when playing in the Champions League are certainly very different from other competitions, therefore the dark horse teams need to increase the depth of their squad to be able to realize their respective targets. Likewise with Leverkusen, expectations for them next season will be quite high, where Xabi stay as manager influences this.

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May 20, 2024, 01:31:54 PM
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Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.
Dortmund often surprises this season, they drew twice against Leverkusen and beat Bayern Munich when playing at the Allianz Arena in the Bundesliga, they also caused a surprise when they eliminated PSG in the UCL semifinals. I think Dortmund will not let Real Madrid get an easy win in the final because they also really want to win the UCL trophy. Dortmund experience in the UCL cannot be doubted, they also managed to get rid of other strong teams easily.

Real Madrid must not be too confident despite its status as the top team, Ancelotti must be more alert to the surprises that Dortmund might present. Dortmund managed to keep clean sheets in the two semi-final games, this fact shows that Dortmund is more focused on strengthening their defense when facing big teams. Relying on counter-attacks is Dortmund's strategy when they manage to control the ball. PSG has become a victim of the surprise presented by Dortmund. Real Madrid could be the next victim if they are not more careful in anticipating fast attacks from Dortmund players.

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May 20, 2024, 01:53:39 PM
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Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.
The biggest mistake Madrid may make in this game is to think that Dortmund is going to be really easy to contend or to even think that they would want to underestimate the abilities of Dortmund until they get to see the capabilities of Dortmund because Dortmund happes to be in one of the competitive leagues in Europe as their domestic league, premier league, la Liga and the bundesliga happens to be the most competitive domestic leagues in Europe.

Been amongst the top teams in one of the competitive leagues in Europe is actually a good reason not to see a team less because they can actually get to surprise you in such a way you had never expected it will be and you may end up not been able to get to recover from the fact that you underestimated them and by all indications, it's clear Madrid is really getting prepared to making sure they are able to win the game against Dortmund without any form of giving Dortmund a chance at it because in their last game they didn't use their main squad just to make sure they stay fit for the champions league.

I personally just expect to see a very intriguing game that will be filled with a whole lot of actios.so I definitely not want to think that these teams are Better than the other but the best team who plays better that day is definitely going to make it to winning the trophy while the other may ha e to try again maybe next season hopefully they get lucky but for this season the best goes home with the trophy.

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May 20, 2024, 02:07:41 PM
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I perfectly understand that Real Madrid is the most successful club in Europe and as the most successful European club, they have that winning mentality which I think is necessary of their biggest weapons as a club but after the result of their game today against Villarreal and how Villarreal were able to come from three goals down draw the game, I became worried of what Real Madrid in the final against a Borussia Dortmund team that's more formidable than Villarreal.
Borussia Dortmund did not win any other trophy and the only way they can finish the season a trophy is by winning the UEFA Champions League final against Real Madrid so I expect them to be at their best when facing Madrid. Real Madrid despite their result today against Villarreal is stilly favorite team to win that final but they must definitely be at their best to achieve that against Borussia Dortmund

Just because Dortmund haven't won a single trophy doesn't mean they have a better chance win it in the Champions League final than Real Madrid. Moreover, Real Madrid have so much more experience in this tournament that they can play more confidently, although these are just my assumptions. There is no need now to evaluate Real's defense based on the match with Villarreal, because there you need to evaluate the match comprehensively, starting with their squard and ending with motivation. In the final everything will be different, and most likely it will be Dortmund who will play most of the match in defense, unless they concede an early goal and have to win back.
Anyway, previously Dortmund had won the Champions League title in the 96/97 season and at that time they managed to beat Juventus in the final with a score of 3-1, so it would be very wrong if you said that Dortmund had never won this title. Furthermore, this could be the second title for Dortmund if they manage to beat Real Madrid in the final this season but we all know it won't be easy.

Everyone knows it will be more difficult when the opponent they face is the winner of the most titles in this competition, especially as Real Madrid is aiming for its 15th title. But on the other hand, we also shouldn't underestimate the slightest bit of not being seeded and somehow Dortmund managed to advance to the final round with their hard work. So regardless of how each team performs in the domestic league, this will not affect their performance in the final match.

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May 20, 2024, 02:51:32 PM
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Anyone just see what Real Madrid do yesterday on his LaLiga match against Villarreal?

How you can go in the halftime winning 4-1 playing with subs and when you come back fromt he halftime you allow 3 goals in a shor span of time, they allowed 3 goals in 10 minutes! just crazy, and the game ended 4-4, i dont think this is gonna happen to them on the UCL final because they are gonna be much more in focus but..... take care.
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May 20, 2024, 02:56:11 PM
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They already know the chance for Real Madrid is much higher than Dortmund normally because the performance of Real Madrid has been amazing so far during this season and they got improved a lot especially after they hired Jude Bellingham for their team. Even if they win the La Liga title. Also, Real Madrid is the best team in the Champions League and is not on the same level as a team like Dortmund.
While I guess Dortmund is going to play full defensive to not give Real Madrid the chance to score goals and then they can hope for the counterattacks.

this is why Madrid is always the favorite because the quality of the team is higher than other teams in terms of squad depth, Madrid is always the best.
Dortmund only has defensive options as you said, but believe me, Dortmund playing style is almost the same as Bayern Munich, which in the end no matter how strong Dortmund defense is, the experience of the Madrid players is very large, they always have a way to destroy Dortmund defense.
Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.
Real Madrid, Champions League champions, face this fired-up Dortmund club that's been terrorizing everyone. Crazy heavyweight battle. Resting their stars may make Madrid feel good, but Dortmund shouldn't be ignored. Bundesliga is among the world's greatest leagues. Dortmund is a match for anyone. This won't be easy for each side. An fierce back-and-forth combat awaits. Both sides have talent and a mission. Dude, I can't pick a winner. Who arrives that day and takes a chance will decide.
Will Madrid's experience and star power be the difference? Or will Dortmund's guts and tactics get them over the line?

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May 20, 2024, 03:00:47 PM
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They already know the chance for Real Madrid is much higher than Dortmund normally because the performance of Real Madrid has been amazing so far during this season and they got improved a lot especially after they hired Jude Bellingham for their team. Even if they win the La Liga title. Also, Real Madrid is the best team in the Champions League and is not on the same level as a team like Dortmund.
While I guess Dortmund is going to play full defensive to not give Real Madrid the chance to score goals and then they can hope for the counterattacks.

this is why Madrid is always the favorite because the quality of the team is higher than other teams in terms of squad depth, Madrid is always the best.
Dortmund only has defensive options as you said, but believe me, Dortmund playing style is almost the same as Bayern Munich, which in the end no matter how strong Dortmund defense is, the experience of the Madrid players is very large, they always have a way to destroy Dortmund defense.
Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.

Real Madrid are far ahead to win the Champions League but here we must imagine Dortmund also trying to win the trophy. Dortmund entered the Champions League with a lot of difficulty in the final so they will not give up so easily but will try their best to win the match against Real Madrid. Of course, we can confirm in this match that most of the gamblers will bet on Real Madrid and they will be optimistic enough to win but it is necessary to be careful because Dortmund also has a chance to win. Since Dortmund have managed to enter the final match in UCL, they must be strong and will have their strong attack against Real Madrid, so Madrid will also have to play with good caution. Each team will be looking for more chances in the match so we think both teams will have plenty of counter-attacks and the team that plays the strongest of these attacks will only hope to win. And if the real madrid team is more excited in the match then surely they will beat Dortmund because real madrid is more skilled and experienced in their champion league. In this match we are waiting to see a lot of surprises but both teams will try hard enough to win the title so the match will be very interesting.

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May 20, 2024, 03:13:21 PM
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Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.
Madrid are of course favourites to win the final, but I think Dortmund who also come with high hopes certainly don't want to miss their chance to win the Champions League for the second time in the club history, right now Madrid do have everything they need to win the Champions League again, but of course Madrid must be wary of the unyielding attitude that Dortmund has always had,  In my opinion, both teams still have the same chance to win the Champions League regardless of Madrid status which is indeed very favorite in the match later.

The gambling market makes a significant comparison on the odds of the two teams to win, Madrid is certainly not surprising to get odds of 1.60, while Dortmund instead get odds of 5.00 and draw odds of 4.33, Madrid is certainly the choice of most of us to risk money to get a win, but I think, seeing the odds are too big on a draw,  It seems that there is nothing wrong for us to try to go against the flow by risking a little money on a draw later, because the performance of both teams is of course not impossible if indeed the match will be decided by penalty shootouts.

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May 20, 2024, 03:15:50 PM
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But as you said, in this Final match everything will be different. Even though Real Madrid is far favorite than Dortmund, what's more, we are also referring to the betting market. But in football anything can happen, because so far we have only talked based on existing data and statistics. Even though it is supported by the available material, this match has not yet been held. which means, before the Champions League final match has not been held. We will not know for sure which team will win the Champions League competition in the 2023-24 season. we'll just have to wait and see, and I hope this match provides a fight worth enjoying.

Indeed, and that’s why they say football is not in media but it is to play. When it comes to statistics and historic, Real Madrid without any doubt has way more chances to win the finals, but look who eliminated PSG, not even Barcelona with all their history and come backs they did against PSG, only Dortmund could do it, when everyone was waiting the opposite to happen. The same thing now with this great final, if Dortmund isn’t a good performing team, they would achieve and get to this point.

When it comes to betting, everyone has a choice to bet on his favorite team and best odds, however, it is not always the case that higher odds means a certain result. Personally, I would go with Real Madrid winning the UCL, but I can’t be sure nor if they would win in the 90 minutes of the game or until extra times, maybe even penalties.

yes it is true, we will not know the exact result of a match when we the match has not started or has been completed, I do not deny it about this, and it is logically true.

But we can speculate about a match by analyzing and assessing who is more likely to win the match, isn't that the fun thing about a speculation before the match starts and we can bet on it?, predictions are also not always wrong, there are several factors and stages that need to be done to produce a conclusion of the possibility that we can predict. but the name of the prediction is only a collection of odds and wishful thinking based on personal speculation, right or wrong it returns to the match that has been completed.

Regarding Dortmund vs Real Madrid, we certainly feel who is more likely to win the match, even though the match has not yet started. and that is a prediction.

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May 20, 2024, 03:26:11 PM
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Useless historical statistics. Are there many players left on the teams from the last time they met? If I remember correctly, Dortmund beat Real even when Lewandowski was in their lineup  Grin The current balance of power is clear: Real is first in La Liga and Dortmund is fifth in the Bundesliga. I think that the top teams from La Liga are obviously stronger than the top teams from the Bundesliga (although this question becomes more and more interesting against the backdrop of Bayer's rise).

It doesn't always work like that. Dortmund knocked out Atletico Madrid and PSG who are in better positions in their local leagues than Dortmund. The year Chelsea won the champions League against Man City, they were not top of the league.
Finals goes down to who wants it more, who's more experienced to win it. It's a one game match, whatever happens in the match determines the winner. There are no second legs or whatever. So saying a team would win because they're top of their league and they're opponents is 5th isn't accurate.~

If we compare it with historical statistics (over the last 100 years lol), then this is 100% accurate as it gives us current data on the balance of power, doesn’t it? What is more important to know - how teams played among themselves 20 years ago or how good they are now? It seems to me that the answer is obvious.
Well, the fact that the result may be “illogical” is logical  Grin otherwise everyone would know the result in advance and there would be no point in the game itself.

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Anyone just see what Real Madrid do yesterday on his LaLiga match against Villarreal?

How you can go in the halftime winning 4-1 playing with subs and when you come back fromt he halftime you allow 3 goals in a shor span of time, they allowed 3 goals in 10 minutes! just crazy, and the game ended 4-4, i dont think this is gonna happen to them on the UCL final because they are gonna be much more in focus but..... take care.

I personally bet live on the match and because Real Madrid was initially in doubt, I got good odds even though I only chose the double chance option. When the match in the first half the score was very big 1-4 so I regretted that I only chose double chance, but in the end it seemed like the bookie knew something and I got my bet. But apart from these results, of course the match in the Champions League final will certainly be very different. Even though Real Madrid conceded quickly against Villarreal but still, in the final match I am completely confident that Real Madrid will win and I am also sure that the match will be finished in regular time.

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Useless historical statistics. Are there many players left on the teams from the last time they met? If I remember correctly, Dortmund beat Real even when Lewandowski was in their lineup  Grin The current balance of power is clear: Real is first in La Liga and Dortmund is fifth in the Bundesliga. I think that the top teams from La Liga are obviously stronger than the top teams from the Bundesliga (although this question becomes more and more interesting against the backdrop of Bayer's rise). Real Madrid are playing their last games with a reserve squad, the final will be crazy, the players will be in optimal shape.
Now that response " Useless historical statistics " cracked my fvcking ribs, Goddamn! I do agree with you anyways, so much has changed since the last time they won them and also not just Robert Lewandoski, they had, Jurgen Klopp as manager and Mario Gotze world cup finalist goalscorer for Germany and others I can't recall completely.

I feel like it's not a good way to look at the current balance of power. Why? Because Borrussia Dortmund knocked out PSV, aren't they first place on the Dutch League Competition?
What about Paris Saint Germany? Aren't they top of them division in the France League 1 Competition? I just don't agree with you on that but then, We all know Real Madrid are damn superior when it comes to the Champions League Competition.

Yeah, it gladdens me to see that, I take a good look at Arda Guler and he is having a great season already scoring back to back to back goals for Los Blancos side. Maybe he'll get a place to showcase what he can do in the Champions League finals. Not the first half though.
I think that was also the case a season ago when Real Madrid won against Liverpool as well. They had the veteran players a bit younger, at that point Modric and Kroos etc were still quite good, but also they had Rodrygo and Vinicious playing amazingly as well, along with having Benzema as the driver at the striker position during that time. It was quite obvious that we have seen them do great that season when they had young and veteran players together.

This season will probably be the last of most veteran players, rkoos and modric may leave, modric for sure but kroos may stay for one more year, and this is why they will want to say goodbye to their star players, Modric brought so much for the team, even won ballon d'or between the famous messi vs ronaldo period.

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Anyone just see what Real Madrid do yesterday on his LaLiga match against Villarreal?

How you can go in the halftime winning 4-1 playing with subs and when you come back fromt he halftime you allow 3 goals in a shor span of time, they allowed 3 goals in 10 minutes! just crazy, and the game ended 4-4, i dont think this is gonna happen to them on the UCL final because they are gonna be much more in focus but..... take care.

I personally bet live on the match and because Real Madrid was initially in doubt, I got good odds even though I only chose the double chance option. When the match in the first half the score was very big 1-4 so I regretted that I only chose double chance, but in the end it seemed like the bookie knew something and I got my bet. But apart from these results, of course the match in the Champions League final will certainly be very different. Even though Real Madrid conceded quickly against Villarreal but still, in the final match I am completely confident that Real Madrid will win and I am also sure that the match will be finished in regular time.

The bookmakers knew the obvious: Real Madrid was preparing for the final and would play with a second team. At the beginning of the game, Nacho, Carvajal, Camavinga, Bellingham, Vinny, Rodrigo were on the bench and only a few of them came on the field at the end of the game. This was an optional game for Real and should not be taken seriously.

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May 20, 2024, 04:23:43 PM
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I think that was also the case a season ago when Real Madrid won against Liverpool as well. They had the veteran players a bit younger, at that point Modric and Kroos etc were still quite good, but also they had Rodrygo and Vinicious playing amazingly as well, along with having Benzema as the driver at the striker position during that time. It was quite obvious that we have seen them do great that season when they had young and veteran players together.

This season will probably be the last of most veteran players, rkoos and modric may leave, modric for sure but kroos may stay for one more year, and this is why they will want to say goodbye to their star players, Modric brought so much for the team, even won ballon d'or between the famous messi vs ronaldo period.
It is reported that Modric and Kroos will stay, the two most iconic players at the Santiago Bernabeu have received new short term contract extensions. If the news is true, then Real Madrid management has done their job very well, they see that these two players still have very good bargaining value. With their experience and winning mentality, these two veteran players are a reference for other young players, even though next season Modric and Kroos will no longer get as many playing minutes as usual.

Now that these two players will record the rare statistic of being the players who have collected the most Champions League trophies, it is very natural for management to retain players like them. Modric and Kroos played a big role in Real Madrid success in winning the La Liga trophy this season, and both are on their way to the Champions League final and give their best there. Even though the final against Dortmund will not be easy, it seems that Real Madrid will emerge as champions this season.

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May 20, 2024, 04:24:34 PM
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I perfectly understand that Real Madrid is the most successful club in Europe and as the most successful European club, they have that winning mentality which I think is necessary of their biggest weapons as a club but after the result of their game today against Villarreal and how Villarreal were able to come from three goals down draw the game, I became worried of what Real Madrid in the final against a Borussia Dortmund team that's more formidable than Villarreal.
Borussia Dortmund did not win any other trophy and the only way they can finish the season a trophy is by winning the UEFA Champions League final against Real Madrid so I expect them to be at their best when facing Madrid. Real Madrid despite their result today against Villarreal is stilly favorite team to win that final but they must definitely be at their best to achieve that against Borussia Dortmund

Just because Dortmund haven't won a single trophy doesn't mean they have a better chance win it in the Champions League final than Real Madrid. Moreover, Real Madrid have so much more experience in this tournament that they can play more confidently, although these are just my assumptions. There is no need now to evaluate Real's defense based on the match with Villarreal, because there you need to evaluate the match comprehensively, starting with their squard and ending with motivation. In the final everything will be different, and most likely it will be Dortmund who will play most of the match in defense, unless they concede an early goal and have to win back.


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Joselu: “These matches allow us to prepare for what's coming in two weeks”
"We have been very consistent throughout the season", said the forward, who netted Madrid's second goal.

Joselu said in point. I am going to say that Real Madrid is going to be the winner of this Champions League final just because of the history that Real Madrid has in the Champions League competition. They are definitely one of the best teams to play in the Champions League. And we all remember the numerous times that has been able to make a comeback from unbelievable situations and win Champions League matches. That's why I think Real Madrid should be able to win the Champions League title this season. But of course, whenever there is a final being played, we have to assume that both of the teams have a 50-50 chance to win. And of course, both of the teams also have the capability of winning the final. That's why they are in the final in the first place. But Real Madrid is undoubtedly going to be the favorite.

Source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en-US/news/football/first-team/latest-news/declas-19-05-2024

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May 20, 2024, 04:35:39 PM
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There are still 10+ days before the 2023/24 UCL Final is held, Dortmund has a longer rest time than Madrid because Bundesliga has finished. Meanwhile, Madrid still has a schedule against Real Betis on May 26. Madrid has a better chance of winning than Dortmund, that is what most people believe. If you look at the probabilities released by Google, Madrid has a 60% chance, not 50% anymore and made them as favorites to win the trophy.



This is makes sense and I agree with this probability, on paper Madrid has superior players. Will there be any surprises from Dortmund? I'm not sure. but nothing is impossible

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Actually, overall Madrid is on top of everything to win this match. But Dortmund also doesn't want this match to end easily, when all the gamblers seem optimistic about betting on Madrid victory. Apart from this optimism, I am also still wary of Dortmund ambitions, it is clear that we could get unexpected surprises. Dortmund has experience in the UCL which further strengthens the fact that Madrid must remain careful with the strategy they prepare. Steps in anticipating Dortmund's pressure are definitely to take advantage of counter attacks. They are aware that on the field Real Madrid can dominate the match, apart from trying to defend Dortmund will definitely try to take advantage of gaps in the open defense.

This match is still clearly open and indecisive yet even though all hands points on Real Madrid winning the match. Borussia Dortmund’s ambition to win the champions league trophy should not be underestimated coupled with the fact that they’ve garnered a lot of experience in the champions league in the past. They should be given equal chance of winning the trophy with Real Madrid but what distinct them is their performance as a team during the season, they have underperformed when compared to what Real Madrid played this season. The champions league is a different competition though and teams play better and perform extensively well here than they do in other competitions. So Dortmund shouldn’t be underrated in this match because the unbelievable or unthinkable can happen in this match.

Anyone just see what Real Madrid do yesterday on his LaLiga match against Villarreal?

How you can go in the halftime winning 4-1 playing with subs and when you come back fromt he halftime you allow 3 goals in a shor span of time, they allowed 3 goals in 10 minutes! just crazy, and the game ended 4-4, i dont think this is gonna happen to them on the UCL final because they are gonna be much more in focus but..... take care.

That is the La Liga and what have happened there cannot be expected to happen in the champions league. In the champions league finals, they won’t play with mediocre or substitute players because they know the intensity of that match and what they stand to lose if they do so. I think they will play better and more coordinated in the champions league than what happened in the match yesterday. Moreover, they’ve already won the league and wouldn’t risk their main players because of the upcoming champions league final for this match. The result was not bad, so I see noting wrong in that match that warrants it to be compared to their upcoming champions league finals.

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May 20, 2024, 05:28:28 PM
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There are still 10+ days before the 2023/24 UCL Final is held, Dortmund has a longer rest time than Madrid because Bundesliga has finished. Meanwhile, Madrid still has a schedule against Real Betis on May 26. Madrid has a better chance of winning than Dortmund, that is what most people believe. If you look at the probabilities released by Google, Madrid has a 60% chance, not 50% anymore and made them as favorites to win the trophy.



This is makes sense and I agree with this probability, on paper Madrid has superior players. Will there be any surprises from Dortmund? I'm not sure. but nothing is impossible

These are quotes for the outcome of regular time, not for the title, as you can see there is a draw, but there is always one title holder  Wink The current title odds are as follows:

Real - 1.31
Dortmund - 3.50

in percentage format this is approximately 74% by 26%.
As for cash bets, as always I like betting on the favorite with a handicap of -1, the odds become extremely attractive - 2.50

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May 20, 2024, 05:46:06 PM
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That is the La Liga and what have happened there cannot be expected to happen in the champions league. In the champions league finals, they won’t play with mediocre or substitute players because they know the intensity of that match and what they stand to lose if they do so. I think they will play better and more coordinated in the champions league than what happened in the match yesterday. Moreover, they’ve already won the league and wouldn’t risk their main players because of the upcoming champions league final for this match. The result was not bad, so I see noting wrong in that match that warrants it to be compared to their upcoming champions league finals.
The stake of the game against Villareal for Real Madrid is meaningless because they have already won the league. The main intension of the players on the pitch is avoiding injuries. So it's not a surprise that Real Madrid played with low determination and then conceding four goals. The fact that they were able to score 4 goals is a positive thing for Real Madrid side.

The Champions League final game will totally be different, this is their main focus and their preparation for. We will see Real Madrid play with their full team and full concentration. Ancelotti knows better how to face this situation, he has been preparing the team just for this game, the remaining league games were never concerns for him. The last opponent this season is just Dortmund, not others.

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May 20, 2024, 05:57:33 PM
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I perfectly understand that Real Madrid is the most successful club in Europe and as the most successful European club, they have that winning mentality which I think is necessary of their biggest weapons as a club but after the result of their game today against Villarreal and how Villarreal were able to come from three goals down draw the game, I became worried of what Real Madrid in the final against a Borussia Dortmund team that's more formidable than Villarreal.
Borussia Dortmund did not win any other trophy and the only way they can finish the season a trophy is by winning the UEFA Champions League final against Real Madrid so I expect them to be at their best when facing Madrid. Real Madrid despite their result today against Villarreal is stilly favorite team to win that final but they must definitely be at their best to achieve that against Borussia Dortmund

Just because Dortmund haven't won a single trophy doesn't mean they have a better chance win it in the Champions League final than Real Madrid. Moreover, Real Madrid have so much more experience in this tournament that they can play more confidently, although these are just my assumptions. There is no need now to evaluate Real's defense based on the match with Villarreal, because there you need to evaluate the match comprehensively, starting with their squard and ending with motivation. In the final everything will be different, and most likely it will be Dortmund who will play most of the match in defense, unless they concede an early goal and have to win back.


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Joselu: “These matches allow us to prepare for what's coming in two weeks”
"We have been very consistent throughout the season", said the forward, who netted Madrid's second goal.

Joselu said in point. I am going to say that Real Madrid is going to be the winner of this Champions League final just because of the history that Real Madrid has in the Champions League competition. They are definitely one of the best teams to play in the Champions League. And we all remember the numerous times that has been able to make a comeback from unbelievable situations and win Champions League matches. That's why I think Real Madrid should be able to win the Champions League title this season. But of course, whenever there is a final being played, we have to assume that both of the teams have a 50-50 chance to win. And of course, both of the teams also have the capability of winning the final. That's why they are in the final in the first place. But Real Madrid is undoubtedly going to be the favorite.

Source: https://www.realmadrid.com/en-US/news/football/first-team/latest-news/declas-19-05-2024
The fact that Borussia Dortmund haven't won a trophy this season is the main reason why the club will definitely put in their best when they face Real Madrid in the final of the UEFA Champions League competition. Real Madrid without doubt is the most successful club in the history of the competition but that doesn't automatically mean that they'll win any final of the competition they play in as history have it that they've also lost few European Cup finals before now.
As a Real Madrid fan, wish is that the club wins the UEFA Champions League title this season ahead of Borussia Dortmund and I strongly believe that my wish is definitely going to come to pass after the final whistle of the final but that doesn't mean that I'm not expecting a surprise result that'll be contrary to my wish. Borussia Dortmund this season in the UEFA Champions League competition have shown so much resilience and determination to win the competition and I think they'll take that strong determination to the final of the competition

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