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June 16, 2023, 11:21:01 PM
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We have become accustomed to this type of posts made by newly made accounts, and we know that the main goal of them is to obtain Merit points in order to upgrade membership and join one of the signature campaigns. I regret to inform you that this appeal that you are making will not work in anything, and the situation will continue as it is, since the membership upgrade system on the forum is not within the reach of many, especially the idiot ones Lol.
By the way, there are similar cases in the loan section, where new accounts try to pretend to be smart to argue with those who seek to convince them that the forum is not a place to distribute money for free. It ends up being red tagged by DT at best cases .

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June 17, 2023, 03:26:14 AM
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:



Lol I almost fell down from the sofa seeing this funny image. I see a lot of the post here too but I just ignore most of them because once they get tired and they don't see the merit they are looking for, they will disappear and never come back. How can someone teach what he or she has no knowledge about? I think most of them only come here to catch some fun and nothing serious.

 Grin Grin Grin I must say, you have quite the sense of humor! Indeed, sometimes if we find funny posts and funny pictures that make us smile to ourselves. However, I assure you that there are also plenty of serious and knowledgeable individuals here who are genuinely trying to provide valuable insight and are involved.

Maybe there are times as you say because Every member of the community has different intentions and goals. Some may come here for fun, while others have a serious intention of sharing knowledge and engaging in useful discussions. One of them may be me.
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June 17, 2023, 05:26:41 AM
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When I was without a merit I wanted to make this same mistake even when I know nothing but I got orientation from my senior colleagues here that made me to retrace my step, what most of lack is orientation, I got the knowledge that it is more better for us as newbies to read and make more research on everything we think that will help us and and other members of this forum to learn before we make contributions or even teach forum members, As the name implies that's what it is, A newbie is novice with little or without a knowlegde of Bitcoin or Cryptocurrency in general as far as Bitcoin talk is concerned so you ought not to teach when you know nothing, is just like walking faster than your shadow, am very impressed with this thread and I will adhere strictly to this piece of advice as I see it thanks.

You still keep doing the same. You are still without merit; having five merits says little. I followed your history; you don't listen to advice.
The presence of punctuation marks in a sentence will not indicate your literacy. You were advised to use dots in sentences, just like capital letters. But there is no change.
In addition, this is not the first time you repeat the same thing about how beginners should behave.
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June 17, 2023, 08:29:14 AM
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.


Seriously, I don't think it really makes sense to see newbies that have just created their accounts for a few days come up with ideas to give advice to other members, especially when creating threads to give advice. The funniest part is that they will introduce themselves at first post by saying that they are newbies and they know nothing about Bitcoin or cryptocurrency in general and are ready to learn, but a few days later they will just come up with a new thread advising others. It is not bad for newbies to give advice in the forum, but what will make someone's post get attention is to contribute important things, not just go around the forum, pick topics that other members have discussed before, change some words, and repost. If any newbies want to make quality posts, they really need to spend some time in the forum and learn so they can be guided properly. What are I am always expecting from newbies most  that just created accounts? It always questions on any part they don't understand about Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency industry.

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June 17, 2023, 08:37:54 AM
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
As it is believed that there is wisdom in listening more than talking. So also is reading more in this forum. Cultivating the Habits of reading more enables us, mostly the newbies to learn much more from the high rank members of the forum that have been here for long.
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June 17, 2023, 09:39:05 AM
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What about your first thread you created in this forum?

What Is Time? Time can be defined as the process in which all things happen.

What Is Process? Process can simply be defined as a motion or action taken by an individual with the sole aim of achieving a certain result of goal.

FACTS:
1. You can not do without time because we are fabricated by time.
2. You can not change time but you can change with time and what you change to is predicted by your decision and steps taken in actualizing it.
3. You can not cheat time, be consistent with your process and success is inevitable.
4. Your value increases or decreases based on the decision you take.
CONCLUSION: If your decision is right and your process in actualizing it is wrong, your result will be wrong also. So take the right steps and you can grow from a newbie to a Legendary member. Remember, time waits for nobody.

Your account registered since March 09, 2022 and this thread was created on March 14, 2022, but you know about the forum rank and guide the newbies to rank up by taking such right steps Roll Eyes

It's better if you look into yourself before creating a new thread.

Now I really curious why there are two newbie accounts meriting @OP account instead of other valuable thread Tongue

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June 17, 2023, 11:42:04 AM
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It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here.

And how many posts and merits will be sufficient and correct? 3 posts and 1 merit? 1376 posts and 396 merits? You know, I now have a little more posts and merits than 2 and 0 respectively, but I still do not feel entitled to recommend anyone how to invest correctly. And from a change in the number of posts and merits, this feeling does not change at all. Yes, since I had 2 posts and 0 merits, I have already managed to learn a number of new things for myself on the forum, but most of what I can say now, I knew when I had 2 post and 0 merits. It is not my own posts and merits that give me new knowledge, but immersion in various topics and articles.

Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

As Socrates said, "I know that I know nothing". It is difficult to deal with your own delusions if you do not express them publicly and do not receive feedback indicating the error. If you are afraid to share your knowledge for fear of making a mistake, you can build all your knowledge on erroneous grounds. There are enough experienced users on the forum who can fix the error, right?

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.

And for some reason it looks exactly like that you want to discourage newbies.
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June 17, 2023, 12:01:52 PM
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand. It is not right to see a newbie account with 2 activity and zero merit advising people in the forum on the right investment to choose while investing in bitcoin especially when making the first post here. Even though you have knowledge of cryptocurrency before finding your way to the forum I think you ought to follow the due process by learning more about the things of the forum instead of teaching things you no nothing about, the forum is a place of learning no one is forcing you to teach things you don't have ideas of so don't worry about wanting to be noticed rather strive to learn faster so you can be noticed when you come out with your quality post.

I decided not to include links to some funny post of some newbies because some of them will take it as an insult instead of a motivation and I am open for any correction if I have gone too far trying to encourage them.
Some of them just get those idea on google and try to paste here becausw they just want to earn merit. They didn't realize that this is not the best thing to do since they are not actually helping especially if they cannot answer on the clarification im the post by some people here. Maybe they should focus to learn since for sure there wants to gain those merits will just come.

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June 17, 2023, 12:15:34 PM
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This issue is amongst the reasons why newbies aren't making it here. For real Bitcointalk is not a forum you try to play on people's emotions, that's what all those type of post by newbies are all about.

I still think it's wrong to make a post about you learning the rules and regulations and you would follow it or the one that a newbie formed an anthem for newbies. I don't know where all this began from but honestly it's not working, and it can be so irritating that the newbies who post this sort of things can get put on ignore by some members.

Funny enough the members who has the merit rarely talk about how to get them but those who does not think they can actually be in the position to talk about it. as a newbie you part now is to improve yourself, focus on getting personal knowledge and find a way to contribute properly.

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While what you said is true, let's not forget that there are newbies who have impacted themselves with the knowledge of crypto before joining the forum. They only appear as a newbie in the forum not as a newbie in the crypto knowledge and exposure.

Some newbies have already gotten crypto knowledge elsewhere(social media platforms or the internet) before advancing to the stage they were to be advising other people on what to do or what to do in the crypto space. I have some crypto influencers I have been following off this forum, for quite some time, if you hear them speak or lecture you about crypto, you will marvel at where they got all the knowledge of crypto from. Such types of people can find their way through a friend that will introduce them to this forum by letting them know how the btt forum is(sharing information and lecturing people about crypto) and they might decide to join the forum to dish out their advice to the forum members in a way they can through their few posts.

Having said that, every one of us is free to dish out advice about bitcoin in a manner we can. Whether a newbie or not. We are all here to learn from one another. Being a newbie is for btt accounts not mainly on the amount of crypto knowledge to be judged with

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June 17, 2023, 01:08:38 PM
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It's not bad or wrong to teach someone who are interested about something like Crypto and other related topics but I would say that it is bad if what that person is teaching to someone is not the correct information or should I say misinformation then that's an issue or situation that we don't want to happen but there are newbies who are already knowledgeable about the topic and some are present here in the forum where the only that makes them newbie is about the rank while their knowledge is not on a newbie level.

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June 17, 2023, 03:52:43 PM
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Hahaha... Your writing is very to the point. But that's good, maybe many newbies want attention, I'm the same. Of course, everyone talks about the quality of posts, but there are still a lot of comments that are full of nonsense and repetitive.

But that's how discussions go, there should always be something to discuss, I'm actually worried that everyone will be smart. There probably won't be any more discussions

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June 17, 2023, 05:07:00 PM
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Or worse — sometimes we have users with zero merits trying to teach people how to make quality posts and how to earn merits the right way. Like, lmao. Every time I see those kinds of posts this is the thing that always comes to my mind:


Secret tips indeed. Cheesy Grin this is so funny its been a while a laugh this hard. It just demonstrates that the YouTube account's owner certainly wants views and followers, even though the tactic is extremely amateur. This is the same as what newbies do, by this point, they ought to be aware that this tactic is ineffective and that they must step up their game if they hope to succeed. Instead of posting and attempting to educate their fellow newbies, they should concentrate on learning and expanding their knowledge. They should ask questions about topics they don't understand and participate in discussion threads that advance their understanding.

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June 17, 2023, 05:13:08 PM
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😂😂😅😅🤣🤣
I can not stop laughing this is a typical example of a newbie advising people on how to trade when they have no trading portfolio with no reputation onboard.
They have no audience, no activities, not reasonable posts and contributions, no merits and they want to teach their seniors 1 plus 1.
Beginners try to become teachers for everyone, even though they themselves still don't have enough knowledge. he also had no audience. People saw him just because he did something ridiculous, not to say he was the best. Beginners who really understand and are serious will not become an impromptu advisor.
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June 17, 2023, 06:12:23 PM
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.
What you said could be likened to a story I heard about a particular man who has been jobless for many years and have been relying on the charity of others to survive, wrote a book titled "How to create wealth and be financially independent." He approached his neighbour and asked him to buy the book and the neighbour replied him to go read the book he wrote first. It's funny sometimes when I see posts or topics of some newbies dishing out advice on a particular subject when they have zero knowledge about it. The truth is you cannot give what you don't have. I'm not trying to belittle anyone or saying that all newbies are the same because merit or ranking cannot be used as a yardstick to judge how knowledgeable one is, but some of them should not be hasty, rather take some time to read and learn.

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I do not accept the idea of a newbie not sharing his or her own idea on how to invest in bitcoin or trying to advise a new investor on how to invest because many newbies here has been on the bitcoin world outside this bitcointalk forum and many people are a strong investor that has invested for a long time now so bitcointalk newbies that have been an investors can share there own lite knowledge about bitcoin, everyone in this forum should share there own ideas about bitcoin so others can aquare more knowledge.

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June 17, 2023, 08:03:02 PM
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The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.

They think that giving an advice is a form of contribution in the forum since this is what we are always suggesting when someone ask on how to earn merit. It’s either giving mediocre advise or creating a made up story about Bitcoin that involves their personal life is the common way of newbie nowadays to fish for merit. I’m not saying that this bad too but this newbie is just finding a way to use this for their advantage even if their contribution is not authentic or legit.

They are just chasing merits tho.
You can’t chase for merits if you are not capable enough, especially for newbies who are clearly less knowledgeable and even less experienced in the forum. Although sharing is a good thing, but know when to give an advice or when not to. And I believe for newbies, they should focus first on acquisition of knowledge and development of their skills and strategies and once they’re reliable enough, maybe they could start giving advices to their peers.
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June 17, 2023, 08:39:29 PM
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But that's how discussions go, there should always be something to discuss, I'm actually worried that everyone will be smart. There probably won't be any more discussions

Smart people have way more things to discuss and its not repetitive since they can have a full arsenal of topics and insights.  If two smart minds meet, they end up with lots of new ideas and more topics to discuss.

I do not accept the idea of a newbie not sharing his or her own idea on how to invest in bitcoin or trying to advise a new investor on how to invest because many newbies here has been on the bitcoin world outside this bitcointalk forum and many people are a strong investor that has invested for a long time now so bitcointalk newbies that have been an investors can share there own lite knowledge about bitcoin, everyone in this forum should share there own ideas about bitcoin so others can aquare more knowledge.

This forum is open for all insights, ideas and questions, though they need to be publish on their right discussion board.  So I also don't mind if a newbie create a topic and share his knowledge as long as it is not the same as the recently created topic.

The essence of this topic is not to discourage anyone from doing the right thing especially the newbies but just to advise them on some certain things which they have failed to understand.

They think that giving an advice is a form of contribution in the forum since this is what we are always suggesting when someone ask on how to earn merit. It’s either giving mediocre advise or creating a made up story about Bitcoin that involves their personal life is the common way of newbie nowadays to fish for merit. I’m not saying that this bad too but this newbie is just finding a way to use this for their advantage even if their contribution is not authentic or legit.

They are just chasing merits tho.
You can’t chase for merits if you are not capable enough, especially for newbies who are clearly less knowledgeable and even less experienced in the forum. Although sharing is a good thing, but know when to give an advice or when not to. And I believe for newbies, they should focus first on acquisition of knowledge and development of their skills and strategies and once they’re reliable enough, maybe they could start giving advices to their peers.

Even if you are capable if the merit holder don't want you to give merit, you can't get one  Grin.  But of course we should continuously participate in a discussion as long as we don't spam and contribute to the thread,  merit will find its way to us.
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Newbies are not expected to teach and influence other people as their knowledge is still limited. They lack knowledge and experience to share that will convince the people. Instead, they are obliged to acquire more reliable information first and develop some self strategies and skills so that they can be good teachers and influencers in the future. Although I believe sharing what you learn is a noble act, but note that newbies are not capable to do that, just give that chance to those who have been here in the market for long.

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Op you are right but there some newbies that in the forum are not newbies in knowledge about bitcoin of any other Cryptocurrencies. They are just new in the forum but not in the cryptocurrency ecosystem. Some people them are much more better than even some of the top rank Members here. 

And if the forum rules limited them to teach then they have to obey the rules but if it is not then I don't see any reason of stopping them if they can deliver the knowledge very well. Because in knowledge, nobody is perfect.









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