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June 17, 2023, 01:54:11 PM
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This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

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June 17, 2023, 02:01:23 PM
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The thing with self control is that it's hard to follow most of the time and you'd be surprised that it only takes at first but sooner or later if you're still on the losing side even if you're controlling yourself, you'll quit. I think this isn't some kind of opinion but rather it's a fact and only few can follow that self control method. I'm always thinking of it to pass the time and I don't always over leverage just to get that losses.
Yes bro. That’s all my energy on this topic right now. People are different. Am trying to find the secret why some top guys can control self like an iron man. They do things accurately and unstoppable like a rock clock. But most of people are just mud, changed randomly and easily for any influences or excuses.
There will always be different among the pack and for gamblers that isn't an exception. I think the secret is consistency and even on other fields that behavior should be maintained or else you don't really belong to be there. We can't change them if they're mud, they're built on that but if you want to be a rock then you need to be molded, by perseverance, psychology, anything that will help you reach that goal.
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June 17, 2023, 02:03:32 PM
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I'm impressed at all the guys who actually understood what the OP is saying or grasp the core message. I tried to read it slowly but still couldn't get it hehe. Hats off to all of you.
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June 17, 2023, 02:27:06 PM
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Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam.
It is impossible for you to make gambling as a job,no matter how professional that you are in the game. Gambling will end up disappointing you,because you cannot win the house hedge.

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Opinion Three, this is the most important one. YOU. No one put a gun on your head to push you to gamble. You can do anything if you can control yourself by supreme rules. Like the stop-loss, stop-win, gamble hours per day......The key is self-control. Comparing the power of self-control, others are unimportant. Some people success, then they can be called professional gambler.
It is true gambling is done willingly,but don't think that you can be a professional gambler,because gambling is based on luck. Gambling should be seen as fun and not an occupation.

This is the common sense on gambling and cant clarify it is right or wrong. If gambling with math or scientific stuff, will lose 100%. House edge is designed by the top experts in industry. I believe there are a little group of people as professional gamblers who gamble for a living. They are good at find out the timing which is good for them and take the profit. The other time, just wait or watch or rest.
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June 17, 2023, 02:30:39 PM
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The thing with self control is that it's hard to follow most of the time and you'd be surprised that it only takes at first but sooner or later if you're still on the losing side even if you're controlling yourself, you'll quit. I think this isn't some kind of opinion but rather it's a fact and only few can follow that self control method. I'm always thinking of it to pass the time and I don't always over leverage just to get that losses.
Yes bro. That’s all my energy on this topic right now. People are different. Am trying to find the secret why some top guys can control self like an iron man. They do things accurately and unstoppable like a rock clock. But most of people are just mud, changed randomly and easily for any influences or excuses.
There will always be different among the pack and for gamblers that isn't an exception. I think the secret is consistency and even on other fields that behavior should be maintained or else you don't really belong to be there. We can't change them if they're mud, they're built on that but if you want to be a rock then you need to be molded, by perseverance, psychology, anything that will help you reach that goal.
I believe it's all about two things here, it's either you are weak or you are strong, the choice is yours as I will not be among the people that would be preaching weakness no matter how we view the context of psychology. It's all about what we feed at all times, and the more we are striving to be the better version of ourselves, the better for us.

Gambling and other addictive engagements should be proceeded with caution, once you sense any ills, you should know is the time you need to fight the most and make the right decision. And never anyone thinks anything consistent in gambling, otherwise, that would be the beginning of their folly.

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June 17, 2023, 02:33:16 PM
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Opinion Two, there is no sure win methods or 100% profit strategy in gambling. If someone claim that, I will just go away because I won't definitely buy that. You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller. We are not the World Cop like Uncle Sam.


I think this is the most common opinion gamblers have about casinos and the gambling industry as a whole. The fraction of professional gamblers is very small compared to the total number of gamblers. So far I never met any professional gambler and among my friends we are all part of category two. Casinos games are all designed in a way so that there is no 100% save way to make money. Having randomness and a house edge ensures that casino is going to win in the long run. And even if there are a few lucky gamblers that win, the majority of gamblers will only make small winnings or losses.

Brother, this is common sense from people. This is not wrong. Because maybe 75-95% people will feel the same way as you. In my opinion, professional gamblers never trust luck and extreme self-control. And these are just basic requirements to be them. I am sure there are more other requirements and no idea about that to continue staying with them. It is never easy.



Gambling is entertainment, we admit it. So if we are not professional gamblers, we better not try it because it requires a lot of things that can be difficult for us to learn. So it's better for us to think of gambling as entertainment where we can play gambling and stop when we feel enough. If you want to become a professional gambler, you have to learn a lot of that stuff and I think you already know it.


There's no how we can be professional enough to avoid the risk in gambling, even the experienced ones failed in achieving their gambling target not much of we that want to rely on gambling for a living and source our income from it, we cannot meet up with other responsibilities.

Your second opinion that there is no sure way to win in gambling or a 100% profit strategy is true because gambling is a matter of luck. If it's sports betting, maybe the strategy can work but won't win 100% of the time. So it's better not to think too much about getting a win from gambling.

Irrespective of the strategy adopted or used, a gambler is bound to either win or loose, that has always been constant and there's no perfect winings strategy elsewhere, we all take the risk to perfect our strategy used ir the luck also work for us in that same direction.

And the third opinion is that no one forces us to gamble. Only we want to try gambling because we are curious to know what it feels like to gamble and feel the sensation of winning and losing. So we choose whether we want to gamble or not and must know that the consequence of gambling is losing money.

This is the most interesting aspect that talks more of gambling being a choice, winning or loosing bet when we also gamble is by luck and chance, there's nothing constant in them both, we only try out all strategies to increase the fun we have through our mental display and tactics used.

Good for you brother. Believe in for fun is far better than for money.

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June 17, 2023, 02:35:37 PM
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Well gambling as a major source of income is dependant on individual, yes I am a gambler but I won't consider it as a source of income, because my believe of the word source of income is a place you earn from, like make your leaving out, an individual can have various sources of income to progress financially.

Gambling is not a business you go into empty handed, you have to stake something, so a business you have to stake your funds everytime to make profits out should not be considered source of income especially when it's has a huge percentage of having to do with luck.

I would consider gambling as a side hustle, it can also be considered as a recreational activities to some people, it should be seen as a probability having this at the back of your mind rather than it being a source of income can help you stop loss and also have better control of your emotions while gambling.
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June 17, 2023, 02:42:40 PM
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I failed. I had an experiment during the NBA playoffs, but I ended up losing everything in the end.

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Personally, I don't trust others with my picks because I am well aware that there are no guarantees of winning in gambling. So even if I lose some money, it doesn't make me a loser, as my journey is not over yet. I understand that gambling involves both winning and losing moments, but I am confident that my journey is focused on the long term.

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June 17, 2023, 02:50:42 PM
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The thing with self control is that it's hard to follow most of the time and you'd be surprised that it only takes at first but sooner or later if you're still on the losing side even if you're controlling yourself, you'll quit. I think this isn't some kind of opinion but rather it's a fact and only few can follow that self control method. I'm always thinking of it to pass the time and I don't always over leverage just to get that losses.

Yes bro. That’s all my energy on this topic right now. People are different. Am trying to find the secret why some top guys can control self like an iron man. They do things accurately and unstoppable like a rock clock. But most of people are just mud, changed randomly and easily for any influences or excuses.

for sure, those guys already have had their fair share of losing and winning on this game. and thru the years, they have learned how to contain themselves on this habit. because if you will really follow what you want, no doubt you will easily get trap in your games.
not very many can use gambling as their main source of income. i can agree with poker players and some sports bettors. but if you say, you are into classic casino games like crash, dice, hi-lo and others, i don't think you can come out alive if you will pour your bankroll into these games of chance.

Can't agree more. If I can win money as a major source of income, this post would not exist and same with this account. Since I feel so bad and lose so much of money, am trying to find help. No matter gambling masters, investors, discussions or anything, even just make me leave gambling for a while, I will success. haha, people are selfish and greedy, just display different on smart or stupid. People rob $100 for food and bills, 10 yrs jail and terrible credit history. Bankers get $100 million income per year, people take them as hero. What is fucking wrong with this society? Who creates this human eater system??? For me, gambling is simple, easy and fair. You can decide when and how to play. Like Baccarat, you can choose any side you want. Except scammers, most famous casinos have no guts to cheat in front of your face.
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June 17, 2023, 02:54:42 PM
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Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.


No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

Opinion Two, there is no sure win methods or 100% profit strategy in gambling. If someone claim that, I will just go away because I won't definitely buy that. You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller. We are not the World Cop like Uncle Sam.

Opinion Three, this is the most important one. YOU. No one put a gun on your head to push you to gamble. You can do anything if you can control yourself by supreme rules. Like the stop-loss, stop-win, gamble hours per day......The key is self-control. Comparing the power of self-control, others are unimportant. Some people success, then they can be called professional gambler.

After gambling soooo many years, sky city Auckland, the star Sydney, crown Melbourne, nationalcasino.com, stake.com platinum5 (sylviegreta), wolfbet.com......still struggle hard to become a professional gambler......This is the inmost thing on yourself......Others are the camouflage of the essence of gambling. If these opinions make you find the right direction, I will be super happy.


Thanks for reading.


Scammers are everywhere, please think deep and seriously before doing anything.



Probably opinion two right? there's no actual way that you could always win on gambling there will always be a time that you're going to lose right? so that's gonna be a problem for sure if you're going to make it as a main source of your income because there are days that you're not going to earn money but the opposite you're going to lose. Surely it's going to be a problem in the long run and without a huge amount of cash that you could use as leverage there's no way you could sustain that, plus there is going to be a huge risk of losing everything every time you gamble.

It's a red flag if someone is claiming that it is possible for sure, probably for sure professional gamblers I doubt that they do gambling daily. I would say that gambling is just for entertainment so just don't make it a main source of income, probably you could bet a huge amount but still do it occasionally since you might win or lose either.

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June 17, 2023, 03:00:09 PM
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Do you mean there's a self pro claimed professional gambler which offer his service and promise anyone who give him money, he will return it after few next days? it's 100% scam and it's really a bad idea if you trust your money with someone you don't know who's him. We're in Bitcoin forum where every user already learn a popular phrase "don't trust, verify" since there's no way to verify his skill, you must not trust him.

Never let others manage your money. $200 per month is just a consumption or nothing for a lot of people. Gone is gone, no big deal. If $200k, that will be a lot and take it carefully. But it is still nothing for a group of rich people. Your angle depends on how deep of your pocket. People fight for $20 hard maybe even risk life on that. But still in some parts of this world, sorry, no need that big, in some parts of your city, a bevy of rich guys spent thousands of dollars on one meal or just a bottle of red wine. And they do such things every fucking day.
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I'd say in any instance of professionalism, especially in types of games like poker, blackjack, or any gambling-related game really where luck matters more than skill, being a "professional" isn't really a recommendation, heck even if the path was laid out to you I would not do it. Imo there's no "successful" gambler, just a successful talent. The man managed to use whatever money he won from gambling to expand his skills, his paths, and his choices. It may have started with gambling and it may be the only thing they actually do, but they also know how to hire people for the right job. Gambling was just an opportunity that let them do so.

2, am the gambler, actually all gamblers don’t want money, they want the feeling of win money.
True, but at the same time money being won is also a huge factor. I reckon what you point out only often happens in cases of rich people? In cases of the poor, it's more like they aren't actually satisfied with what they get. They want more. And the mindset is if it happened once, it can happen again, which is true, but highly unlikely in cases of gambling.

Thx for the reply. I got a feeling you will be my first real follower in my community. I tell you why. Most responses here are still discussing the points I wrote in my post. That is good and I like to reply to them. But, you got the two side mind and you can take care of the good and bad sides at the same time. This is the real basic requirement for increasing self-control. I won't say you can win money with it, I just said you have the bility to make yourself to a professional gambler in long term. If people can only think in one way, no matter which way, the ceiling for their life is fixed. If this kind of people selected as a leader, that will be truly diasater for that group. When you win, you need to think lose as a balance. When you lose, you think winning will come for sure. This is art of stop-loss and stop-win. No one can teach you in real situation.
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June 17, 2023, 03:16:59 PM
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in the part where I talk about professional gamblers, I have constantly said that professional gamblers have also realized that they cannot make constant big profits and that for this reason they keep creating channels on youtube with the intention of making money with youtube, as they need to have many views and for that you need to have many subscribers they are not going to tell people not to play the games of chance, they are not going to tell people to play as moderation, so what they are doing is simply talking about things like management banking, what is the over and under goals market, what is the Asian market and how does it work

what are the strategies that can be used in sports betting, advantages and disadvantages of making multibet bets and single bets, which are the best leagues to place sports bets, how to do a pre-match analysis correctly and how to place live bets, how the corner market, the card market and the free market work, so these are things they keep talking about, and some of them promote casinos and earn with casino sponsorships and referrals and give some game tips, but only a few games so that people keep hoping that they are going to make big profits from games. games should be seen as fun

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June 17, 2023, 03:19:14 PM
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Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.
The first opinion is more towards an affiliate or influencer who has influence and can lead his followers to play using his referral link. So not everyone considers gambling as a job unless you have a large following and have a relationship with a casino to establish partnerships. Meanwhile, the rest of the people who play individually will not make gambling a job, for whatever reason it will not achieve its goals.

Opinion Two, there is no sure win methods or 100% profit strategy in gambling. If someone claim that, I will just go away because I won't definitely buy that. You believe you pay. I don't believe, just leave. Keep life simple. No judge to the buyer or seller. We are not the World Cop like Uncle Sam.
Then for the second income, of course you don't always talk about luck games because each casino has a different room and only slot games usually test luck. As for poker and skill-based games, people can take advantage of their skills without relying on luck.

Never touch pure luck game such as any slots. Some guys can win some from the machine, but I won't buy that.
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June 17, 2023, 03:21:56 PM
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This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

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June 17, 2023, 03:25:24 PM
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It isn't a must that when you gamble that you hope to win,sometimes also put it at the back of your mind that losing is what the result of your game will turn up to be. Gambling should be seen as fun and not to make quick money,so that thinking of being a professional in gamble wouldn't be on your mind. People who wants to use gambling to survive in their lifetime are lazy and greedy people,who want to reap from where they didn't sow. If you start seeing gamble as something that you can use to get income,this is when you get great loss in it.

Lazy people will not success in any fields. Ignore them please. Greedy? I don't think the same way as you. People from wall street stand for this word. Most of them want money in their DNA. But these people are the most diligent group in the world. They are chasing and no relax in their life. I respect them no matter I like them or not.
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June 17, 2023, 03:28:36 PM
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    -  You know that scammers are everywhere, here you also know that it is not a good idea to turn gambling into cryptocurrency as a source of income. Instead of having that mindset, just change it as just a hobby and just a bonus if you win gambling.

At least with this mentality, we will not lead to addiction for sure later, and will not affect ourselves, friends and most of all our family especially or loved ones. And we should also consider that most people who play gambling are losers, so here we should be aware that it is not good to make it a source of income.

Do the things you good at.
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June 17, 2023, 03:31:00 PM
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This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

Brother, you misunderstand all the major points I want to display here. Please read posts step by step. Thank you.
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June 17, 2023, 03:48:51 PM
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The thing with self control is that it's hard to follow most of the time and you'd be surprised that it only takes at first but sooner or later if you're still on the losing side even if you're controlling yourself, you'll quit. I think this isn't some kind of opinion but rather it's a fact and only few can follow that self control method. I'm always thinking of it to pass the time and I don't always over leverage just to get that losses.
Yes bro. That’s all my energy on this topic right now. People are different. Am trying to find the secret why some top guys can control self like an iron man. They do things accurately and unstoppable like a rock clock. But most of people are just mud, changed randomly and easily for any influences or excuses.
There will always be different among the pack and for gamblers that isn't an exception. I think the secret is consistency and even on other fields that behavior should be maintained or else you don't really belong to be there. We can't change them if they're mud, they're built on that but if you want to be a rock then you need to be molded, by perseverance, psychology, anything that will help you reach that goal.

Why self-control is the only key from hundreds of wrong keys to thousands of doors with only one right door. And I also don't argue with those points on entertainment or fun things, I can't say they are wrong but also I try to find out a survival chance for real gamblers (maybe homeless already). They said gamble for fun or entertainment only, that's cool. For some parts of real gamblers, for those people who have to gamble for a living, there is no other choice already. Quit gamble = Quit life. Must win has entered into their DNA. Some of them have already risk their life on gambling. Money is shit for them. They gamble without exactly reason anymore or they have put all dignity on gambling. For some guys, the needs of spirit is far far far more important than physical.
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June 17, 2023, 04:04:17 PM
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This post is basically a rant by op against scammers since he got scammed for a specific amount which only he is aware of by being gullible enough to believe that it's worth investing in winning strategies.

Anyone with a half-decent brain is aware of the fact that there is no long-term winning strategy. However, short-term winning strategies do exist.

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

I prefer to use simple word for easy understanding. Self-control. That's it. Gamblers, real gamblers, those kind of people gamble food money can be called this name. I am sure most of them have the methods can win money from casino. Very sure. 98% sure. The real problem of them is cannot control self. They don't play stop-loss, stop-win orders well. Maybe some also have time management problem. When you play longer enough like me, you will get a feeling on win or lose at the moment. This is strange. But this is real. When I got $1000 in my pocket with good mood and no pressure on winning big or chasing lose, I will win money in most of times. 50 bucks or 150 bucks maybe. But, when I decide to chase lose, most of time I got bad feeling on that.
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