Success or Fail? - Talking about Gambling as a major income

[kk5526682]

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No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.
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Well, being professional in gambling, arguably, requires skill. People which I think that can only be called professionals (in terms of gambling) are those gamblers who plays skill-based games such as poker. Surely, slots is out as it is purely random and most are pre-determined, AFAIK.

Unless you posses great talent with skill-based games, you should not see gambling as a source of income.

I agree. Your post is the words I would like to see and share here. Pros would like to take gambling as objective as possible. They must work hard and cautious to choose game. If gamblers have biased opinion on any games before play, they put themselfs under negative situation already.           

[kk5526682]

If you have the idea of how much you'll win or lose then that's the better way of gambling. Because if you lose, that's okay and that is because you know what you're losing.

And as you gamble, you know how much you can potentially gain so you'll gamble and try it. But Bob, you can't stop most gamblers because it's all about the money.

Whilst it's like that you're against the idea, everyone wants to win and take the money with them.

Brother, this is the fact am talking and talking and talking about self-control. YOU MUST DECIDE AND FOLLOW THE WIN AND LOSS LIMIT BEFORE GAMBLING. Then do the best to fight for it. This is why it is Super hard to become a pro. I have supplyed details on Update 2 and 3 on major content. This is the only way with hope to be them.

[kk5526682]

Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.


No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

No hard feelings! Anyone can decide to go professional about his gambling attitude so long as it's paying off for such a person based on the strategies he's using. But let's make one subtle thing clear, and that is, many of these professional gamblers that takes gambling as a source of income also have extra sources of income too. Those sources they may not flag up as they do with their gambling but a few of us knows that apart from gambling there's back up source to their finances. For instance, the former owner of Chelsea football club we know him to be a professional gambler but he also has another sources of income despite him making some huge money from gambling.

I won't argue with that. But I am sure this is not only fact about professional gamblers. In my opinion, most of pros have no other source of income, this is the major reason why these people gamble for a living.

[noorman0]

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source.

I made sure I had no other options to make money so leading to this plan, it would probably be worth it if I started to find out what a professional gambler really is. So many "pros" teach gaming strategies that most are just casino marketers after the trail.

Maybe there is a professional who sincerely shares some of the winning secrets. But, as good as they read the odds of winning, basically being a professional like them is only a possibility, while the necessities of life are a certainty.

[kk5526682]

This is like an extended topic of discussion about gambling being a source of income. While we all know that professional gamblers' source of major income is gambling. Many are just doing it part-time and even for fun. We can't just defeat our own thinking on this matter because we all know that we can't be like those professional gamblers. It took them a lot of time, sweat and blood to become one and people think that it's easy to be on that state but I am sure that it's not easier as what we think.

Right. You pay/get what you believe/do. Ignore all unnecessary stuff, maybe you can understand why I think pure gambling is truly fair for everyone. Think about the 50/50 game deeply brother.

Yeah, I understand it and that's why I do like those gamblers that are really doing it and they're showing their losses and not just their wins.
They know more about us and they know how they'll tackle the bad days when they're not doing well. I'm trying to understand why you think pure gambling is fair and probably that's really it is and even there will be people that will be against it, still at the end of the day you know what you're believing and why others won't understand it.

Happy to explain more here. We are the human beings not machines. Even we just sit there doing nothing, there are so many ideas produced in mind again and again. But pure gambling is just 50/50 game. Let's assume you play Baccarat Only one time. Player and Banker, you can choose any side. No matter other gamblers or casino boss, they have same win chance as you. Simple and easy. Ignore the cheating stuff. Casinos with license won't cheat any one of us.

[kk5526682]

I barely doubt gambling can become income source for us. It’s most riskiest way to make money and it may not run in our favour for very long period of time. In my gambling experiences of 4-5 years I have lost more money than what I have won. I mean I am happy I won many bets, some were very good and I have also cashed them out but obviously when I put my money back into gambling it was nightmare. You see there is cycle of winning and losing when it comes to the gambling and it’s losses that is dominant (in my opinion). I am not sure what other thinks about it but always remember gambling is a bet of your hard earned money better play with it only until it is nice with you.

All people know the knowledge to wear flip-flops and shorts in Summer and cotton-padded jacket in winter. But when people become gamblers, they are just doing in opposite. They can use 1million to chase 100 bucks lose and can't use 100 bucks to chase 1million dollars win. When they lose money, all of them prefer to withdrawl money to keep fighting even they know they are in bad luck at the moment. But, if they win $100, they wiil be so happy and go to play with the money. And they call it stop-win. This is totally wrong about the definition of 'stop-win'. In my opinion, stop-win is not depending on the amount of the cash, depends on the timing when you feel or get the signal you think your good luck will be the end. This is called stop-win. Winter is coming!!

[kk5526682]

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

HaHa, can't agree more. Innocence is shown no mercy in gambling. So many kids (including 60 yrs old first-time gambler）take gambling as a easy moeny game. Because the gambling system designed super friendly to new guys. They can win easily when know nothing about gambling. If they keep gamble, that will be another story. Sad.

[kk5526682]

There are tools you can use to win in the longterm
Risk management, not gambling when feeling strong emotions, bankroll management and so on
But you are right, strategies to beat the house will usually work for a while and then stop working

Defeating the house in the long-term is impossible due to the house edge factor. What you stated is true only about the short-term since you could technically overcome the house edge in the short-term.

People who make a living on gambling have knowledge and know-how to deduct the influence of bad luck. Never easy. I just believe this kind of group exist and will grow bigger.

Lol. This is easily one of the dumbest statements that I have ever heard in my life. Luck is totally random newbie. Improve your brainpower!

Have no idea your educational background and no interest. You need improve your reading skills. Or just waste your time here. I got no problem on 'luck is totally random'. And I do not say anything on that. My point is professionals 'know-how' 'deduct' 'the influence' of bad luck. Simple words. Bad luck can happen to anyone. Ordinary people like you will lose all your cash at hand if you gamble that day. Professionals get the same bad luck, they may lose 10% of the cash at hand. Whose brainpower need to improve now? This is the last time I response on such useless post. Have a good day.

I believe that there is no such thing as beating the house, it is something that does not make any sense to me, I think that when you risk things like casinos , you have to see how much you are going to spend, because no matter how good Whether in a casino it is not possible to be winning so much and in the long run I think that things are more difficult, what I think is that in the long term the most probable thing for one as a player is to lose , I don't know anyone who is winning at a casino , for this Reason is that in the long term what can be achieved is to lose and lose , I don't know if someone thinks like me or am I wrong?.

Every person have their own boundries. From parents, husband/wife, school, friends, workmates or strangers like the pretty lady who serves you at your farourite restaurant, another is reading, travling and so on, my point is all of us have the limit. You are not wrong brother. Just believe we live in a super big and diverse world. I wrote 'No Judge' at first of major content. This is the reason. We can't judge the things we never know. Even you think you know, but the whole picture may not the way you think. I would like to stay humble always.

[kk5526682]

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

This is the fact. Brutal but true. Ordinary people should stop gambling instantly. They will put themselfs and family in risk if keep gambling.

[kk5526682]

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

The last line shows how important it is to have a sustainable way to earn money so it makes sense not looking gambling profits as income. It may sound good to have the extra money in your pocket but after a few months, the loss streaks may put you in trouble that can affect your personal life conditions. The survival ratio is very low in the gambling business, so I also advise many gamblers to take a break and think the other ways to prevent gambling addiction. Otherwise, the ending may become similar to homeless people who lost everything due to being addicted to the gambling industry. Most casinos try to not share such info but it is a true and proven statement, unfortunately.

If I know how to make this post to the fist line on first page, I will do that. All people should read this at least 10 times before they decide to gamble or not. As a adult, we should know most of us are just ordinary guys. Good at one skill will be so lucky for us. But, in gambling, it requires pros to be good at so many fields. Psychology, fund management, judging the timing in very short time, emotinal control, math......

[peter0425]

Assume all guys here are gamblers. So, no people can have moral advantage than others. No Judge.


No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard. Sorry for you. But I have three personal opinions.

Opinion One, a few people called Professional Gambler take gambling as a job for a living. These people have the skills to make that happen. My scheme is working on that. But it looks like so scam to many dudes, so you judge it on your own risk.

this part is enough to discuss your whole thread not unless you are pointing to other side because you also warned people here about the existence of scammers when we are discussing about the standards of using gambling to feed us everyday.

[lienfaye]

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard.

It's interesting to know that some gamblers are able to treat gambling as their main source of income because of their knowledge and applied strategy on the particular game (skill-based). But majority of gamblers can't do that and only losing their money, that's the reason why it's not right to rely solely in gambling to earn.

There's nothing wrong if you want to gain through gambling however be aware of the risk and learn to limit yourself. Nevertheless, it is advisable to play with a desire of having fun and not because you want to double or triple your money in snap. The best is get a stable job to earn for a living.

[kotajikikox]

No matter what the reason is, you plan to gamble as a major income or only income source. This is super super hard.

It's interesting to know that some gamblers are able to treat gambling as their main source of income because of their knowledge and applied strategy on the particular game (skill-based). But majority of gamblers can't do that and only losing their money, that's the reason why it's not right to rely solely in gambling to earn.

Actually using SOME is still overstatement because what I do believe is there are only FEW people that do manage using gambling as a source of life and that is the sad reality in gambling , this is why only few wins and many are losers.

There's nothing wrong if you want to gain through gambling however be aware of the risk and learn to limit yourself. Nevertheless, it is advisable to play with a desire of having fun and not because you want to double or triple your money in snap. The best is get a stable job to earn for a living.

and only spend small amount per time as this will also save you from losing and also for possible addiction turning .

[dothebeats]

I believe that there is no such thing as beating the house, it is something that does not make any sense to me, I think that when you risk things like casinos , you have to see how much you are going to spend, because no matter how good Whether in a casino it is not possible to be winning so much and in the long run I think that things are more difficult, what I think is that in the long term the most probable thing for one as a player is to lose , I don't know anyone who is winning at a casino , for this Reason is that in the long term what can be achieved is to lose and lose , I don't know if someone thinks like me or am I wrong?.

You are not wrong; the house will always win no matter the situation. Those who manages to 'beat' the house may have already lost a huge amount of money before they managed to get something out of the casino. Perhpas they are only breaking even and not really winning at all. No one beats the house, they merely just take back what they lost and IMO that's not winning at all.

[pakhitheboss]

I believe that there is no such thing as beating the house, it is something that does not make any sense to me, I think that when you risk things like casinos , you have to see how much you are going to spend, because no matter how good Whether in a casino it is not possible to be winning so much and in the long run I think that things are more difficult, what I think is that in the long term the most probable thing for one as a player is to lose , I don't know anyone who is winning at a casino , for this Reason is that in the long term what can be achieved is to lose and lose , I don't know if someone thinks like me or am I wrong?.

You are not wrong; the house will always win no matter the situation. Those who manages to 'beat' the house may have already lost a huge amount of money before they managed to get something out of the casino. Perhpas they are only breaking even and not really winning at all. No one beats the house, they merely just take back what they lost and IMO that's not winning at all.

The house can be defeated if you are able to break the pattern. That pattern is so much unpredictable and above all you need a good bank roll to try it. The loss might be high in the beginning but the profit can be big. If anyone does beat the house in one instance and stops, that doesn't mean that person would be able to beat the house next time. Everytime the algorithm resets itself and starts with a new pattern, which makes it more difficult to follow.

[Blitzboy]

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

Gambling, conventionally, has a reputation for precipitating financial ruin. Still, its key to comprehend that it also offers potential rewards. Like all financial pursuits, it necessitates apt risk management, unwavering discipline, and a firm grip on probabilities. I align with the view that haphazard gambling for constant income is unwise and often disastrous. Yet, gambling with a calculated strategy, practical hopes, and stringent self-limits can serve as legitimate leisure and, rarely, a gainful venture. Moderation and financial acumen are crucial. With the means and insight to gauge the odds, betting can be an electrifying, occasionally rewarding diversion. However, it should never be the sole income channel or a financial problem solver.

[swogerino]

*sighs* here we go again with people trying to justify gambling as a source of income when they can easily just fill up an application form and get themselves a regular 9-5 that doesn't put their entire savings and their family's future in the line.

First off, are you good at gambling? Do you win more than lose? Do you think you have what it takes to take on the pro scene and be pitted against people who have probably cracked the secrets to the game way before you did? Second, Are you really willing to put your stuff on the line for some strategy you saw on the internet, even worse someone you heard from? I'm not that belligerent and gullible but I sure as hell know people will fall for this kind of crap. I mean there are people who used gambling consultation services lmao.

Gambling is not a form of profit-taking venture. It is an entertainment method that you do when you want to wind out and experience the joy of spending money you don't mind losing. If you think of gambling otherwise, and you're not any of those two I mentioned above then you might wanna ask yourself if you're still sane or something.

People will learn quick that relying on this industry for their income as they will put their family in trouble.
Do remember, most gamblers are having financial problems, hence, the negative stigma when someone is into gambling.
The likelihood of failure is high when you put yourself into this habit. Very few persons can get out alive whether short-term or long-term basis.
So to make sure you are putting something on your table, better look for a stable job and not think that gambling will ever sustain your lifestyle.
A lot of people are getting trap to the idea of hitting big one day, but we all know, most of the time, such luck won't ever come.
And your family can't wait for such luck as you need to put something in your tummy to survive. Don't exchange it to the concept of hitting the jackpot.

Gambling, conventionally, has a reputation for precipitating financial ruin. Still, its key to comprehend that it also offers potential rewards. Like all financial pursuits, it necessitates apt risk management, unwavering discipline, and a firm grip on probabilities. I align with the view that haphazard gambling for constant income is unwise and often disastrous. Yet, gambling with a calculated strategy, practical hopes, and stringent self-limits can serve as legitimate leisure and, rarely, a gainful venture. Moderation and financial acumen are crucial. With the means and insight to gauge the odds, betting can be an electrifying, occasionally rewarding diversion. However, it should never be the sole income channel or a financial problem solver.

Gambling cannot be considered as a long risk investment as while gambling we have also the risk of getting addicted and that is sure to bring to ruin any financial situation we may have.I of course acknowledge that gambling can also be a life changing event if you get to hit in the slot machines for example that x300.000 multiplier or you may be that lucky person who get to win a huge jackpot but this is also almost impossible to hit for normal people and even those that do so they have been gambling from a long time that they are still not in so much profit even after hitting these big wins.

The real life changing events for people who have won multimillion dollar jackpots can be counted with the fingers of one hand and in percentage that is like 0.0000000001% of world population have managed to get it,so no success in gambling for me,it is just entertaining.

[Z390]

A major source of income from gambling is a sure-fire path to total destruction. You will become addicted to it easily because you have some crazy unrealistic weekly target, and gambling is designed to ensure that your lucky days come when you least expect them, which means you will lose far more than you will win. Tell me how someone can depend on such things as a source of income.

Sometimes, gambling feels like the perfect home for lazy people, they want the easiest way to get rich and gambling suits this very well, until they get into the maze of gambling and realise how lost they have become, that is even if they are lucky enough to realize that they are doing something wrong.

[blockman]

Yeah, I understand it and that's why I do like those gamblers that are really doing it and they're showing their losses and not just their wins.
They know more about us and they know how they'll tackle the bad days when they're not doing well. I'm trying to understand why you think pure gambling is fair and probably that's really it is and even there will be people that will be against it, still at the end of the day you know what you're believing and why others won't understand it.

Happy to explain more here. We are the human beings not machines. Even we just sit there doing nothing, there are so many ideas produced in mind again and again. But pure gambling is just 50/50 game. Let's assume you play Baccarat Only one time. Player and Banker, you can choose any side. No matter other gamblers or casino boss, they have same win chance as you. Simple and easy. Ignore the cheating stuff. Casinos with license won't cheat any one of us.

Well, it's understood and very simple and plain. There's no need for further explanations about the thing that you've mentioned. It's true that there's not a lot to say but these are fair in every casino. And there are disappointed gamblers that do blame the casino for being one sided and then they're losing a lot of stuff because of their own mistakes and decisions. We can't do anything with those type of people that are looking for fault because they can't find anyone to blame with their losing streaks.

[Doan9269]

Some gamblers have already achieved this as a success with gambling because they depend all their earnings source from it and they have developed many means through which they source out this income in gambling, it doesn't matter the nature of what we do to earn some income as far as it's a legitimate means or source, if you're able to cope with that with paying your bills and other demanding needs then it's a success but if not, there must be an attempt to make some additional means while it's a failure to have depended on it alone.