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August 14, 2023, 07:21:05 AM
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Yes that's a bad habit once you will aim a profit in gambling.

Every gambler you see today into have discovered one or two things that impress them to develop interest in gambling which make them join, the moment we begin to treat every gambler thesame way we see ourselves then we started to be inconsiderate about others i gambling, some wish to gamble to earn them a living, but not every gambler is found under this category, some to fun and many other reasons everyone of us have that bring us altogether as gamblers.
The truth is that, the public will always make a generalization when it come to things that involve multiple users such as gambling, because majority of those who gamble today are into it actively because of the rewards their earn from it and also for the sake of hitting a big jackpot many have slid into addictions in the process of chasing a direction.

But deep down we already know the category that everyone belongs to since only an active gambler can make classifications as to what category he belongs to and where he rates others also.

But the fact that prioritizing profits may be bad, but at the same time, winning is the highest motivation in gambling because, without them, there won't be any need for casinos to operate because while some win others lose that is what generates revenue for the casinos.

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August 14, 2023, 07:42:07 AM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.

 
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August 14, 2023, 11:22:51 AM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.
I`m playing for fun now. And i had nice profit from gambling before for several months. And i know several men that have the gambling as the main income. But today for me more interesting to spend some money and get fun, than try to win prize. Of course, it doesn`t mean that i`m trying to lose, but i get positive emotions even if lose. It is just like a ticket on football match.


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August 14, 2023, 12:57:47 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.
I`m playing for fun now. And i had nice profit from gambling before for several months. And i know several men that have the gambling as the main income. But today for me more interesting to spend some money and get fun, than try to win prize. Of course, it doesn`t mean that i`m trying to lose, but i get positive emotions even if lose. It is just like a ticket on football match.

Exactly. Only participate and bet the money you are willing to lose. Once you've taken your side, already assume that you've lost. You're accepting risk and respecting it. Because once you do, you are no longer chasing winners or olympic feat wins. Regardless of whether you win or you lose, you know that it's just a game. There's another one to play, there would be another opportunity to participate in.

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August 14, 2023, 01:04:52 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


No one wanted to persuade us that they are gambling with their spare money, and they do not care whether we believe it or not.  It is their own money so they have the right to spend it anywhere they want.  Besides, we never know if they really are spending their spare money and they are too busy playing to prove to us they really are playing with their spare money so we should live it at that and give them enjoy their own money.

The term gambling as long as we are having fun is like saying not to be responsible in gambling, it is better to replace with gambling what we can afford to lose since it promotes responsible gambling.


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August 14, 2023, 01:44:26 PM
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Yes that's a bad habit once you will aim a profit in gambling.

Every gambler you see today into have discovered one or two things that impress them to develop interest in gambling which make them join, the moment we begin to treat every gambler thesame way we see ourselves then we started to be inconsiderate about others i gambling, some wish to gamble to earn them a living, but not every gambler is found under this category, some to fun and many other reasons everyone of us have that bring us altogether as gamblers.
The truth is that, the public will always make a generalization when it come to things that involve multiple users such as gambling, because majority of those who gamble today are into it actively because of the rewards their earn from it and also for the sake of hitting a big jackpot many have slid into addictions in the process of chasing a direction.

But deep down we already know the category that everyone belongs to since only an active gambler can make classifications as to what category he belongs to and where he rates others also.

But the fact that prioritizing profits may be bad, but at the same time, winning is the highest motivation in gambling because, without them, there won't be any need for casinos to operate because while some win others lose that is what generates revenue for the casinos.
Many gamble because they're chasing that life-changing win, and yes, some sadly become addicted. It's just basic psychology. Reward and risk play on the human mind like nothing else

Just because many fall into the trap doesn't mean everyone's in the same boat. An experienced gambler, like me, understands the game's nuances. It's not just about the rewards; it's about the strategy, the thrill. We're not all the same

And economics 101: casinos thrive because they have a business model based on people's losses. Winning might be a motivation for players, but for casinos, it's the losers that keep the lights on

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August 14, 2023, 06:38:12 PM
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Many of them are gambling addicts, not that they can support their families, but what happens is that they lose their wealth and family.
His imagination beat his expectations and that's what happened in the end, just look at people who gamble become addicts they imagine to get daily income and also get big money in gambling but can't get it, that's why it's important to think that every gambling always has a high risk where we can lose everything not only money but also family.

Anyone who gambles must understand the risks before gambling, because it is important not to create imagination will beat the casino one day but they will not get victory against the casino, always remember that the dealer will always win and will never lose, if we get a win we usually will lose to the greedy nature within us, that's why self-control and gambling responsibly so as not to become an addict and don't make gambling as the main income but make it as a side income and entertainment just don't overdo it.
Everyone once realized that gambling could harm them even if it only crossed their minds occasionally, but most people ignore it. It doesn't matter if we can't stop being a gambler, but what becomes a problem is when someone realizes that gambling is detrimental but they are reluctant to evaluate themselves and improve their knowledge, skills and also the ability to increase the chances of winning in every bet they make or at least minimize loss in gambling.

If we just play like flowing water and just wait for luck then when will we win the game. So it is important for us when we realize that gambling is detrimental to evaluate ourselves as soon as possible and improve the quality of playing if indeed we cannot leave gambling.

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August 14, 2023, 07:51:55 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


I don't really get the conclusion from your writing, I don't really agree with you that gamblers are trapped by the word gambling for fun (most gamblers who win do consider gambling as entertainment only) although there are many gamblers who lose or go bankrupt out there, there are also many gamblers who actually win and make a lot of money out there, so that defeat when gambling does not apply to everyone as well as victory in gambling, but to make gambling the main income, well not everyone can also do that only a few.

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August 14, 2023, 08:36:33 PM
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I`m playing for fun now. And i had nice profit from gambling before for several months. And i know several men that have the gambling as the main income. But today for me more interesting to spend some money and get fun, than try to win prize. Of course, it doesn`t mean that i`m trying to lose, but i get positive emotions even if lose. It is just like a ticket on football match.

Exactly. Only participate and bet the money you are willing to lose. Once you've taken your side, already assume that you've lost. You're accepting risk and respecting it. Because once you do, you are no longer chasing winners or olympic feat wins. Regardless of whether you win or you lose, you know that it's just a game. There's another one to play, there would be another opportunity to participate in.
Gambling Is all about winning and losing and we can't choose from this since we don't know what the outcome of the bet we have made will look like. Gambling can be so disturbing when we see ourselves keep losing but when we finally get a solution to the reason why we keep losing and we improved in our skills, we can be surprised that consistent profits would engulf us. We just need to keep doing whatbwe know how to do best since luck can come in anytime without us knowing and planning for it.

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August 14, 2023, 10:48:18 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.

For you not to believe means that it is not a fact, for it to be a fact means that you must believe it. Although the idea of gambling for fun has been theoretical. Even if people who has the mindset of gambling for fun, when they have or two winnings, their mindset will change. And they will start chasing money. Another thing you mentioned is about gambling with your spare money. That has been the rule of gambling and even that of cryptocurrency investment but people do not respect the rule. But then, there is what is called a spare money.

In the last part of your post you mentioned something like "Gamble as long as you are having fun". I haven't heard of that statements before. It could be a statement coined by gambling company owners to decieve the gullible.

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August 14, 2023, 11:17:31 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


I don't really get the conclusion from your writing, I don't really agree with you that gamblers are trapped by the word gambling for fun (most gamblers who win do consider gambling as entertainment only) although there are many gamblers who lose or go bankrupt out there, there are also many gamblers who actually win and make a lot of money out there, so that defeat when gambling does not apply to everyone as well as victory in gambling, but to make gambling the main income, well not everyone can also do that only a few.
That is the sort of argument here, there could be gamblers leisurely playing for entertainment or even have friendly matches with their friends in a poke table or something. So that kind of individual can burn money without thinking about losing. He can afford to do that, and the next day he/she will still have food in the table for his money.

But there are more risk takers here, or so will treat gambling as their main source of income. Which for the majority of us doesn't make sense at all because the chances are slim to none to win everyday. Maybe there are days that you get lucky and bring home big money. But you still have to control yourself and learn where to put the big money and what to prioritized.

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August 15, 2023, 07:01:27 AM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


Why has nobody spare money, that doesn't seem true. When I go watch other people shopping on the weekends then I see a lot of them spending money for unnecessary things. My city is full with these small 1 Euro stores where you get so many different things, all cheap and out of plastic that they will break in 3 weeks again. Or why are so many people going to watch a movie in the cinema, where you have to pay so much money for snacks if you could stream a movie from home and enjoy it on your couch. The same goes for going to a restaurant or bar where you pay a lot of money for things that you could get much cheaper at home. The same beer or cocktail would only cost a fraction at home for what you pay in a fancy place downtown. So, people are definitely looking for entertainment and are happily paying for it. Gambling is part of that entertainment industry and we should treat it as such. There is difference between money that we need to pay bills and rent each month, and money that we have in our savings account and don't need it any time soon.
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August 15, 2023, 07:49:44 AM
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I`m playing for fun now. And i had nice profit from gambling before for several months. And i know several men that have the gambling as the main income. But today for me more interesting to spend some money and get fun, than try to win prize. Of course, it doesn`t mean that i`m trying to lose, but i get positive emotions even if lose. It is just like a ticket on football match.

Exactly. Only participate and bet the money you are willing to lose. Once you've taken your side, already assume that you've lost. You're accepting risk and respecting it. Because once you do, you are no longer chasing winners or olympic feat wins. Regardless of whether you win or you lose, you know that it's just a game. There's another one to play, there would be another opportunity to participate in.
Gambling Is all about winning and losing and we can't choose from this since we don't know what the outcome of the bet we have made will look like. Gambling can be so disturbing when we see ourselves keep losing but when we finally get a solution to the reason why we keep losing and we improved in our skills, we can be surprised that consistent profits would engulf us. We just need to keep doing whatbwe know how to do best since luck can come in anytime without us knowing and planning for it.
Only i decide when i stop the game. If i win - i stop when  i have to go. If i lose - i stop when i lose all money, i planned for gambling.
If you can`t stop when you want - it becomes a problem. In such situation it would be better even don`t start the game.


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August 15, 2023, 08:34:46 AM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


What do you call that money you spent for alcohol, beverages, cigarettes, and all these unnecessary expenditures? Isn't that a spare money? A money that you have outside the necessary expenses? Everyone has spare money, doesn't matter how big or how small it is, but not everyone has the spare time. I've known people who've worked 3 jobs in 1 day, consuming all 12+ hrs trying to make money outside of their comfort zone, and yes they have day offs, but it's only enough to finish the weekly household chores and a little bit of rest.
Anyone can have spare money to gamble, if they all want to have fun and forget the long week they had. One cannot say gambling is not fun simple because they're not into gambling and I think that should be the case for you. It's the same like saying "playing Chess is boring" because you don't like playing Chess that much.

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August 15, 2023, 09:40:16 AM
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I'm not sure any gambler makes gambling their main income. most gamblers play because they have other better jobs of making money than gambling. and they play gambling for fun and bet whether they are lucky with their bets.
even though gamblers still have high hopes of winning, it's still not worthy of being used as the main income. because that means they must also spend more money at the casino in their bets than what they make in winnings.
We are not sure that there are gamblers who can make gambling their main income, but I think there are those who can. It's just that they don't tell many people because they probably don't want to be seen as arrogant or anything. But they could have other reasons we will not know because it is their privacy. But it would be better if they didn't use gambling as their main income and just for fun. It would be much better for them because they could make their money elsewhere. So most people will only fail if they try to use gambling as their main source of income.

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August 15, 2023, 10:46:33 AM
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I'm not sure any gambler makes gambling their main income. most gamblers play because they have other better jobs of making money than gambling. and they play gambling for fun and bet whether they are lucky with their bets.
even though gamblers still have high hopes of winning, it's still not worthy of being used as the main income. because that means they must also spend more money at the casino in their bets than what they make in winnings.
We are not sure that there are gamblers who can make gambling their main income, but I think there are those who can. It's just that they don't tell many people because they probably don't want to be seen as arrogant or anything. But they could have other reasons we will not know because it is their privacy. But it would be better if they didn't use gambling as their main income and just for fun. It would be much better for them because they could make their money elsewhere. So most people will only fail if they try to use gambling as their main source of income.

Maybe yes that there are people who secretly making money out from gambling and doesn't want to share things from other people, though same with your position, it's better not to look at gambling as main source of income but a source of entertainment that may give you some relaxations when you are killing some time out of your boresome.

In that manner, you won't be pressured to keep playing and keep trying to push your way to win, but just to play some and quit when you
already satisfy.

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August 15, 2023, 12:57:53 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.
What do you call that money you spent for alcohol, beverages, cigarettes, and all these unnecessary expenditures? Isn't that a spare money? A money that you have outside the necessary expenses? Everyone has spare money, doesn't matter how big or how small it is, but not everyone has the spare time. I've known people who've worked 3 jobs in 1 day, consuming all 12+ hrs trying to make money outside of their comfort zone, and yes they have day offs, but it's only enough to finish the weekly household chores and a little bit of rest.
Anyone can have spare money to gamble, if they all want to have fun and forget the long week they had. One cannot say gambling is not fun simple because they're not into gambling and I think that should be the case for you. It's the same like saying "playing Chess is boring" because you don't like playing Chess that much.
I am not trying to say gambling is bad, but taking gambling as everyday harbit is bad because gambling can't afford your everyday needs. Like you asked a question, I don't really drink alcohol and even if I do drink alcohol it will not be all the time, I do drink soft drinks,coca cola drink on this link you will finds out how I spent money on my drinking harbits besides you can't compare drinking to gambling because you are sure of what you are drinking, if you want to compare drinking to gambling that'll means you can also compare foods to gambling lol pardon me mate, the money I used in buying drinks is called Pourboire money.

 
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August 15, 2023, 02:18:46 PM
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Gambling is not bad but taking gambling to an extra mile is where things will get bad for you, do not try to create a bond with gambling, use small amount of dollars to gamble when you can afford to lose that small amount of money, there is a big chance of losing that's why it's even a crime against you to expect that gambling is your financial break through, you will eventually have stories that touches.

My life around gambling has become better since I started using few amount of money that I made through signature campaign, it doesn't hurt this way because like I've said signature campaign payouts.

I know there are people who are secretly making money out of gambling, even if they are using a good strategy they won't want to share because the more people are exposed to a strategy the less effective it becomes.

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I know there are people who are secretly making money out of gambling, even if they are using a good strategy they won't want to share because the more people are exposed to a strategy the less effective it becomes.

I have heard this story of the more people use a particular strategy, the less effective it becomes. Is this really the truth?
I mean this should not work in sports betting because no matter what you predict or how many people that predicted it, the outcome will not change. I don't know other types of gambling that reduces the efficiency of the strategy when many people are using it.
I believe this kind of thing can happen in trading and not in gambling. If it is true, pardon my ignorance.

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August 15, 2023, 04:36:43 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.

Haha Grin that is the reality mate,  people tend to give such advise always and the question that always ring in my head anytime I read such statement as using spare money to either gamble or invest in Bitcoin is a big fallacy because no money is spare money at some point every cent is very important and should not be regarded as spare money.

It's good to say,  use only the money that you can afford to lose to gamble,  at least that is fair enough,  because even if you look closely at it you will know that,  no money is easily lost,  all loss comes with pain in the ass,  but then losing a small personal money is is easy pain, than losing a loaned money.

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