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August 20, 2023, 03:30:54 AM
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I don’t need to argue with this as most those who venture into gambling as their major income end up failing and not succeeding. Because in any investment or gambling activity, once you put pressure into it, you’ll be constantly bothered and won’t have time to focus anymore, which will make you more susceptible to losses in the end.

This is probably the reason why gambling should never be seen as a major source of income. It’s not only unreliable, but seeing a lot of events become unpredicted in gambling, then it’s too dangerous to put high hopes that gambling will definitely be the one to put food on the table.
Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.


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August 20, 2023, 08:05:12 AM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


You saying are that "no one has spare money", but is it true? When you go to see a film in a movie theater, or to eat in McDonald's, or buying a candy ... that's your spare money, because you can perfectly live without all of that.

Now. Woulkd you start chasing your losses after paying for food at McDonald's? And if yes, what you do exactly? Will go to McDonald's again buy more food to find a hundred bucks inside? That would be stupid, right? So, don't do it with gambling, that's all. And, you know, it's not a big secret. Most gamblers know it, much bigger part of them than you can imagine.



The OP was last active on July 06, 2023, so I don't think we are replying to him/her in this thread. But hte discussion is interesting. Let's keep it, guys.

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August 20, 2023, 01:26:23 PM
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I don’t need to argue with this as most those who venture into gambling as their major income end up failing and not succeeding. Because in any investment or gambling activity, once you put pressure into it, you’ll be constantly bothered and won’t have time to focus anymore, which will make you more susceptible to losses in the end.

This is probably the reason why gambling should never be seen as a major source of income. It’s not only unreliable, but seeing a lot of events become unpredicted in gambling, then it’s too dangerous to put high hopes that gambling will definitely be the one to put food on the table.
Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.
But even so, it's not difficult for us to make gambling our main income because there is a factor of defeat that can come in a row and eat up the money that we previously used as capital to get wins. Gambling can only be used as entertainment like other entertainment and does not treat gambling as a place to make money. Even though we can win from gambling, we still risk losing the next time, and this has happened to many people, so we should look for other places to make income. And the more we can get income from various places, the more money we can get.

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August 20, 2023, 01:34:11 PM
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I don’t need to argue with this as most those who venture into gambling as their major income end up failing and not succeeding. Because in any investment or gambling activity, once you put pressure into it, you’ll be constantly bothered and won’t have time to focus anymore, which will make you more susceptible to losses in the end.

This is probably the reason why gambling should never be seen as a major source of income. It’s not only unreliable, but seeing a lot of events become unpredicted in gambling, then it’s too dangerous to put high hopes that gambling will definitely be the one to put food on the table.
Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.

I think that profession does not matter that much but the desire to break free from financial robbery or what we know as the 9-5 dead end rat race is what can make us stop gambling and focus our efforts in different venues to try and build up something good for ourselves.Of course if we use gambling only to get that huge win which can facilitate us this change and focus us toward this new goal it is great,what is not great is to know before hand that gambling in most times will drain our money and thus making our journey longer to our new focus.

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August 20, 2023, 01:36:51 PM
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Hmm interesting discussion, anyways I do not believe the facts that people are gambling for fun especially that saying "use spare money to gamble" i do not agree to that take because no one has spare money but every one has spare time (free time)  but on this gambling rules that's says GAMBLE AS LONG AS YOU ARE HAVING FUN I will say thats what gambling companies are use to tell people for them to come and play to lose, every gambler have the mindset of winning but if they starts losing they will want to recover their loss.


You saying are that "no one has spare money", but is it true? When you go to see a film in a movie theater, or to eat in McDonald's, or buying a candy ... that's your spare money, because you can perfectly live without all of that.

Now. Woulkd you start chasing your losses after paying for food at McDonald's? And if yes, what you do exactly? Will go to McDonald's again buy more food to find a hundred bucks inside? That would be stupid, right? So, don't do it with gambling, that's all. And, you know, it's not a big secret. Most gamblers know it, much bigger part of them than you can imagine.



The OP was last active on July 06, 2023, so I don't think we are replying to him/her in this thread. But hte discussion is interesting. Let's keep it, guys.
Perhaps in your little world, its all about hamburgers and movies. Money spent on leisure or food provides a tangible return. You get satisfaction, a break from reality, or just something to munch on. What do you get from gambling? A promise? A maybe? An ephemeral dream that more often than not turns into a nightmare?

Your analogy is flawed. Eating at McDonald's isnt about searching for some hidden treasure inside your burger, its about immediate gratification. Gambling, on the other hand, is often an endless pit, a vortex that sucks in those who come close.

Look, most gamblers might "know it", but knowledge without action is nothing. Being aware and constantly falling into the same trap, thats the real tragedy. So, before you simplify complex behaviors into fast-food comparisons, perhaps gain a more profound understanding of the human psyche.

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August 20, 2023, 01:46:07 PM
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Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.
I think if someone is really want to gamble, regardless what it his profession isn't matter. There's no company will force you to work 24 hours everyday and in the same place, maybe someone can work overtime for 12-16 hours in a day, but it's not everyday.

Using gambling as a side job is wrong too, trading or other skill job are definitely can be as a side job because there's a certainty, not like gambling where it's full of luck.

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August 20, 2023, 03:38:35 PM
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I don’t need to argue with this as most those who venture into gambling as their major income end up failing and not succeeding. Because in any investment or gambling activity, once you put pressure into it, you’ll be constantly bothered and won’t have time to focus anymore, which will make you more susceptible to losses in the end.

This is probably the reason why gambling should never be seen as a major source of income. It’s not only unreliable, but seeing a lot of events become unpredicted in gambling, then it’s too dangerous to put high hopes that gambling will definitely be the one to put food on the table.
Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.
But even so, it's not difficult for us to make gambling our main income because there is a factor of defeat that can come in a row and eat up the money that we previously used as capital to get wins. Gambling can only be used as entertainment like other entertainment and does not treat gambling as a place to make money. Even though we can win from gambling, we still risk losing the next time, and this has happened to many people, so we should look for other places to make income. And the more we can get income from various places, the more money we can get.

And that's how it should be because focusing towards gambling as main source of income won't get your further in your career and what you're into are just more losses that is totally impossible to avoid because that is already given if we're talking about this and most probably, debts along the way are already waiting for you if that's how you view gambling.

Yes, there are gambling professionals but I do like to think that they have some sort of secrets to maintain their status that they don't want others to know because if that will be a norm, casino will improve to a much higher level where it would be much harder to us gamblers to win successively. Or casino will cease.

 
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August 20, 2023, 10:04:11 PM
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Limiting oneself is quite crucial, don't you think? I mean, I've witnessed people who first seemed like they were just having a little fun turn into serious players. However, allow me to offer my two, or even three, pennies (just because)

I think everyone thinks they're not "that" gambler. Like, everybody has a plan. "I know when to walk away," many have said to me, yet despite this, they continue to click on websites or press buttons at casinos. It's similar like promising yourself you'll only eat one chip out of the package, but you wind up scarfing it down

And that technique you suggested for withdrawal? It sounds amazing, but is self-control even something that most people possess? They claim to, after all, but really! Everyone like to believe that they are the exception rather than the rule
In my case, i don't even claim to have self-control over gambling. But i have self control over my own plans. If i didn't have previously set limits and rules for myself that are harder to work around when i am in a zone and gambling

Gambling is so fun it's intoxicating. And just like with drinking, if i plan to go to bar, i leave my credit card because sober me doesn't trust drunk me to make good choices. And drunk me doesn't listen to sober me. That's why remove my changes to make more debt. In online gambling i am using not using my bank account, but a crypto account. And that crypto account has certain amount of money monthly that i won't ever top by buying more while gambling.

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August 20, 2023, 10:13:13 PM
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I don’t need to argue with this as most those who venture into gambling as their major income end up failing and not succeeding. Because in any investment or gambling activity, once you put pressure into it, you’ll be constantly bothered and won’t have time to focus anymore, which will make you more susceptible to losses in the end.

This is probably the reason why gambling should never be seen as a major source of income. It’s not only unreliable, but seeing a lot of events become unpredicted in gambling, then it’s too dangerous to put high hopes that gambling will definitely be the one to put food on the table.
Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.
Using gambling as major source of income is absolutely not good for anyone. Though there are people who are good in gambling but by the time one takes it as a major source of income, the person is likely to end up as a gambling addict which is why it's not good to use gambling as a major source of income. I've never seen a gambling addict who's financially wise no matter how much they earn from their respective works or how much they win so that's why it's not wise for anyone to use gambling as a major source of income

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August 21, 2023, 03:59:03 AM
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I think if someone is really want to gamble, regardless what it his profession isn't matter. There's no company will force you to work 24 hours everyday and in the same place, maybe someone can work overtime for 12-16 hours in a day, but it's not everyday.

Using gambling as a side job is wrong too, trading or other skill job are definitely can be as a side job because there's a certainty, not like gambling where it's full of luck.
But when after working at a company and adding a few hours of overtime, maybe someone will go home and rest to sleep, not to gamble, after all, people like this usually gamble only when they are off work, such as on weekends.
After all, people who have busy work like that sometimes also forget about gambling and only focus on what work they have to get done.

That's true because gambling has no certainty so it can't be considered a side job and of course everyone will definitely prefer to trade if they want to have additional income, but so far most people think gambling is easier than trading to be able to make money and that's the wrong assumption what they have always believed.

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August 21, 2023, 05:35:07 AM
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Profession really matters in the race to break free from financial limitations and struggles. We ought to keep in mind to always be in pursuit of the good lifestyle, not extravagant. Losses and profits are generated from gambling, and it takes so much from us before we would even realized. It's impossible to make gambling as a streams of earning income, it can preferably be used to gain extra changes not the main source. Gambling on games can be volatile just as bitcoin in trading, making the comparison it's slightly the same. Depending on gambling as a means of income, it's absolutely risky because gambling is 100% unreliable.
I think if someone is really want to gamble, regardless what it his profession isn't matter. There's no company will force you to work 24 hours everyday and in the same place, maybe someone can work overtime for 12-16 hours in a day, but it's not everyday.

Using gambling as a side job is wrong too, trading or other skill job are definitely can be as a side job because there's a certainty, not like gambling where it's full of luck.

I think you cannot take gambling as the main source of income. You have to have some other sources of income to actually earn money. The money you put into gambling is supposed to be the money that you can absolutely throw away from your income and not have an effect on your life.

And if you take gambling as the main source of income, sooner or later, you are going to definitely regret that. There will be one time when you are going to lose a huge amount of money and that is going to be absolutely nonrecoverable. So gambling is never a good income source in my opinion. You never put everything on your luck even if it is a calculated guess.

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I agree on this. Even though there are a lot of people who view gambling as a career opportunity and use this as their main source of income, still it is not recommendable and not a wise decision because gambling are supposed to be just for entertainment. Yes, you can generate money from it but it's not advisable to see and treat gambling as if it's a job. Thus, you can never depend your life with pure luck.

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And if you take gambling as the main source of income, sooner or later, you are going to definitely regret that. There will be one time when you are going to lose a huge amount of money and that is going to be absolutely nonrecoverable. So gambling is never a good income source in my opinion. You never put everything on your luck even if it is a calculated guess.
Usually people think of gambling as a source of income because they see streamers or influencers who always win games easily with thousands of dollars or more, I think he is an idiot, in fact streamers and influencers are paid by casinos to promote their casinos so there is cooperation between the two that the wins that are shown are sometimes not genuine, but have been arranged and that is to attract users to gamble. it's an old marketing technique but it still works well to attract newbies.

Personally, I think those who always consider gambling as a source of income, I will usually let them play gambling until they are tired, because usually they will wake up on their own and finally understand after getting that bitter experience, that gambling has a risk where everyone loses money there. can't be recovered, sometimes people keep playing when they lose and chase those losses even though they can't. let's just say that gambling is the same as we are looking for a fun hobby where we have to pay more for that pleasure. we should think like that because that way it will make our mindset healthier.

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I always say that gambling can be source of income. If you are regularly gambling and getting good at it you can turn it into source of income. But it would be like 4th 5th rank source of income at best. You need more guarenteed income methods to even keep gambling. Professional gamblers are mainly richer guys who already make money through their investments. They consider gambling as fun way to get money.
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I always say that gambling can be source of income. If you are regularly gambling and getting good at it you can turn it into source of income. But it would be like 4th 5th rank source of income at best. You need more guarenteed income methods to even keep gambling. Professional gamblers are mainly richer guys who already make money through their investments. They consider gambling as fun way to get money.

I would like to ask a little question, do you believe that gambling can be a source of income? I am a gambler who can be said to be quite active and honestly as far as my experience, I have never seen some of them get continuous wins in gambling, how can you get consistent results just by relying on luck alone, and if you can then what gambling are you referring to. The number of winnings in gambling varies greatly but on average the winnings are quite large and many times the capital we bring, if indeed someone can get a real income continuously then maybe a lot of people will move or enter gambling because they hear that it is very easy to earn by just gambling. Meanwhile we have to return to normal thinking that gambling is just about luck, if you lose then you are unlucky and don't put too much ambition or great expectations there because we can see that there have been many cases of some negative impacts experienced by someone in gambling.  Then for the rich people who have managed to get a lot of money from investing and he entered into gambling, I am sure that the purpose of his entry into gambling is just for fun to risk his wealth a little, they are not too ambitious for victory because they already have their own way to multiply their money by investing.

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August 21, 2023, 11:58:28 AM
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And that's how it should be because focusing towards gambling as main source of income won't get your further in your career and what you're into are just more losses that is totally impossible to avoid because that is already given if we're talking about this and most probably, debts along the way are already waiting for you if that's how you view gambling.

Yes, there are gambling professionals but I do like to think that they have some sort of secrets to maintain their status that they don't want others to know because if that will be a norm, casino will improve to a much higher level where it would be much harder to us gamblers to win successively. Or casino will cease.
If we want to advance our careers from work, that is doable, but if we want to make gambling our main source of income, we will have difficulties because before we can earn money from gambling, we have lost several rounds. And we will indeed experience big losses, especially when we keep trying it because we might experience bigger losses.

Those who can make gambling their main source of income are very lucky because they already have a source of income from gambling. But they must remember that they cannot use gambling as their main source of income forever, so they must be able to find other ways that can become other sources of income. It will be better for them because they already have the capital they collect from gambling, so they can use it to get other sources of income.

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Well, I like how you say it, because it's the truth, it's the money that one is willing to lose, but boy, when you lose it hurts too, I have my tactic so that things don't hurt so much if I lose, and it's see the casino as a service, because that is what we can do to see it, that is, see the casino as when one is going to pay to play a game, or pay for a beer service, or go eat some hamburgers, something like that, and in fact it's the best way I see it so that it doesn't hurt, that's something that at least I do and it has worked wonderfully for me, of course things can be seen in different ways here, and a very important one is that always in any case it is not only losing, sometimes you run with the good luck of winning.

As for having extra money, I think that this applies to people who are very wealthy who do not know what to spend their money on, because in fact I know people who are like that, they have their companies, they are the owners, apart from the fact that they are too selfish and have so much money that they have the nerve to say that they don't know what to spend it on, that's when I tell them about the casinos, I advise them on the best ones, the ones I always frequent, I know that some have registered at stake.com, at bitcasino .io, because they are the ones that I have advised them the most, but nevertheless there are these types of people, I imagine that in Europe there are many people like this, and they do have extra money or extra money, but most of Players are players who play with very little money, some are from the middle class, others from the upper-middle class and well, sometimes they get upset, however it is as they say, some have free time but not free money, then I include myself there, that's why whenever I go to play I only have money to play, which obviously isn't much, it's 10usd when I enter the casino, to play, for whatever, if I win it well, but if I lose I don't lose money control, I assume my loss and that's it.

Its about the intricate market dynamics and technology advancements that support these platforms, not just about making or losing money.

Your superficial characterization of wealthy people as mindless spendthrifts creates a fairly flat picture. Money is fundamentally a tool that can be used to exert power and control, and its real value goes beyond simple spending. By the way, cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin arent just virtual casino chips that are thrown around. They are the foundation of future economies since they rely on decentralised systems. Have the decency to educate the wealthy from a position of knowledge if you're going to do it

It is not a flat vision, at the end of the day there will be a winner or a loser, currently it can only be characterized as a rich person, a poor person, a middle class, and the middle class is now almost downward trending, however what I say It is due to the experience that I have seen in casinos when I am present, in fact in physical casinos is when this behavior is seen, in online casinos it is difficult to see the casinos, if we go to the level of enthusiast, of entertainment And for fun, it's obvious that this is there, but on the general level, what people are looking for is to win, but it has to be said like that, win or lose, there is no other way to Smooth it out.

In addition, the issue is success or failure, ironically one has to say or not say, it is obvious that as an income it is difficult, or whoever tells me that he uses the casino as an income and that he is profitable or that he lives on it, wow the truth I won't believe you, because not even the richest can use a casino as income, because I'm sure they would have a high failure rate, but the fact that they have enough money to Repay losses is something Else.

How else can you see it? as an income? Regarding Bitcoin, a rich person can see it as a token, as a player I see it as a fraction of bitcoin to bet  , but I see any Altcoin as a token, especially if it has a value of 1 or 2 USD, or even less. From this point of view, I think that any player sees it as I do and he doesn't, I really admire it , obviously when playing with bitconi you should be more careful, because if you win, uff is the best, but if you win It is losing, little by little we become decapitalized, unfortunately in a casino there are losers, winners, it is like sports, there is always a winner or loser, winners or losers if it is in a team, not everyone can be winners, and in a casino things It boils down to that, I don't know how else it can be softened, to educate a rich person is difficult , normally those who want to learn know these things and more, because their culture on financial education is generally high, those who are wasteful are few , but still, there are, when you spend more time on the street one can realize these behaviors, when you share with them, when you talk to them, one can read them, because you share with them, my experience is based on owners of companies, of company workers, of a person on the common Street , I believe that this Experience is Valid.

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August 22, 2023, 06:21:44 AM
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If we want to advance our careers from work, that is doable, but if we want to make gambling our main source of income, we will have difficulties because before we can earn money from gambling, we have lost several rounds. And we will indeed experience big losses, especially when we keep trying it because we might experience bigger losses.

Those who can make gambling their main source of income are very lucky because they already have a source of income from gambling. But they must remember that they cannot use gambling as their main source of income forever, so they must be able to find other ways that can become other sources of income. It will be better for them because they already have the capital they collect from gambling, so they can use it to get other sources of income.
We have goof jobs, I see no reason why we should beckoned on gambling for making extensive amounts of money, which is probably not on the same level we earn from our various professions. There's alot to learn concerning the system, stick to a profitable plan and hits whenever there's good entry. Losses and profits are made daily, we should to be on the winning sides for every minute we spend in the space is worth it. Making gambling as a main source of income is very risky and unreliable for gamblers, they tend to face severe losses that might have a chance to liquidate their accounts.

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August 22, 2023, 04:54:33 PM
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We have goof jobs, I see no reason why we should beckoned on gambling for making extensive amounts of money, which is probably not on the same level we earn from our various professions. There's alot to learn concerning the system, stick to a profitable plan and hits whenever there's good entry. Losses and profits are made daily, we should to be on the winning sides for every minute we spend in the space is worth it. Making gambling as a main source of income is very risky and unreliable for gamblers, they tend to face severe losses that might have a chance to liquidate their accounts.
And if indeed our work is good, we should prefer to continue our work rather than expecting to make money from gambling and want to make it our main source of income. We will find it difficult to get the money because of the defeat factor that will come to us every time we gamble, and we can't win too often, so we will experience more losses than wins. That is why we must be able to choose which one is best for us, and because we already know that gambling cannot be used as the main source of income, we must have any job to make money. That's what we need so that if we want to play gambling and consider gambling as entertainment, we already have the money. And perhaps we can win some money that can add to the money we had before.

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And if indeed our work is good, we should prefer to continue our work rather than expecting to make money from gambling and want to make it our main source of income. We will find it difficult to get the money because of the defeat factor that will come to us every time we gamble, and we can't win too often, so we will experience more losses than wins. That is why we must be able to choose which one is best for us, and because we already know that gambling cannot be used as the main source of income, we must have any job to make money. That's what we need so that if we want to play gambling and consider gambling as entertainment, we already have the money. And perhaps we can win some money that can add to the money we had before.

The work is most important one in our life apart from other things.Because after earning from the work,one can play the gambling using the money from income.If you don't have the work,then you will not have funds to survive.Then how it's possible one to play the gambling.The gambling is based on the money deposit,the free gambling game will not be more thrill one.The gambling can't be used as the source of the income because we can't get continuous winnings from the gambling.It can be used as the second income, if you don't have any other option for the second income.

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