⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[ginsan]

Amorim was brought in for longterm and he will have 2-3 seasons at least. He got the position in the worst possible time and with this kind of players he is doing the maximum. If he is able to win the europa league this season will be a good season for them. This is the only thing that can save their season so far. Even if he dosent win it i dont think he will be sacked.

Well, if given a long time, of course Amorim will succeed in bringing change to the Manchester United squad. So far, Amorim's performance has certainly not been good, but we must also look at the depth of the squad because the existing squad cannot perform well so that management needs to make changes to the squad in the upcoming transfer window.

The position in the standings does not reflect good performance because until week 29, Manchester United is still stuck in 13th place. There is no target that they will pursue in the Premier League because they don't have much time left. But Amorim's focus is of course on the European League so they have to play well to be able to reach the final.

[AmaGold70]

We can't really say anything shocking would happen though? Can we? Look at the league situation, plus Liverpool is out of everything else, so they only have the league games which means they are going to rest, Arsenal still has some games left outside of the league.

There is no way that a very well rested Liverpool would lose that many points whereas Arsenal would end up with all wins, so we can easily say that Liverpool will win the league. Sure it looks like we are not going to see that becoming a mathematical reality for a while longer, we need it to become mathematically possible first. However, just because math doesn't say it is done, doesn't make it any more competitive, we could see how the league is already done.

If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.

Indeed it's a big shame to Liverpool the season, after all their efforts in the beginning of season they couldn't make it in the champions league round 8, even though the Carabao Cup that they are supposed to win easily they still couldn't make. However, I think their only hope lies in the premier league right now so is quite sating that this season title would surely be in their favor because Arsenal doesn't have what is takes to compete with them.

[Stable090]

Well, if given a long time, of course Amorim will succeed in bringing change to the Manchester United squad. So far, Amorim's performance has certainly not been good, but we must also look at the depth of the squad because the existing squad cannot perform well so that management needs to make changes to the squad in the upcoming transfer window.

Manchester United fans are disappointed in Amorim performance currently, but I expected what’s happening currently to happen, Manchester United fan’s expectations were just too high when Amorim was about to join Manchester United, they were thing immediately Amorim joined the club, then everything is going to change, but they don’t know that things doesn’t work like that, Manchester United problem wasn’t from the coach alone before Amorim joined, the players are the main problem which Manchester United are having, and it’s going to take time before Amorim correct that, you don’t just expect Amorim to sign all the players which he wants at once.

Am sure Amorim will be able to improve Manchester United’s performance, but it’s going to be with time, we don’t expect that to happen within a short period of time, it’s definitely going to take time.

[Moreno233]

Give Amorin plenty of opportunities I think he can fix the squad, but if judged now it might be too early because the coach also needs a long adaptation.

Ruben Amorim have actually made some progress in Manchester United and I feel he has what it takes to fix the team and make them as strong as they use to be. If he is given more time and freedom to bring more players of his choice into the club, I'm sure he will be able to replicate what he did at Sporting in Manchester United.

Including I once said Amorin was bad because he did not bring his team in the premier league much better but at least there is hope in the European league tournament where he can continue to fight.
Maybe next season it can be fixed from the whole.

I will not conclude that Manchester United have become the dream team we all hope for neither will I assume that Amorim have gotten the right team for Manchester United. I still think he is work in progress although there is serious improvements in the team even though the results is not too big to match that statement. From the way Manchester plays, we can see that for sure.

[liuka]

Indeed it's a big shame to Liverpool the season, after all their efforts in the beginning of season they couldn't make it in the champions league round 8, even though the Carabao Cup that they are supposed to win easily they still couldn't make. However, I think their only hope lies in the premier league right now so is quite sating that this season title would surely be in their favor because Arsenal doesn't have what is takes to compete with them.

Liverpool players loss their spirit when they were eliminated from the Champions League because in the qualifying round they performed quite well where they won 7 matches with only one defeat. But in the last 16 they had to admit that PSG was the strongest team that buried their hopes in the Champions League. In the Carabao Cup, Liverpool's performance was not very good, they even lost their sharpness as they had in previous matches so that Newcastle United managed to beat them.

Losing two hopes, even one of which was one step away from winning the trophy, was certainly a big disappointment that Liverpool players had to accept. For now they have to focus on the domestic league, even their current advantage does not guarantee that they will be safe because there are still many matches left. So it's better to focus than to experience the same disappointment at the end of the season.

[skarais]

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If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.

Of course, Arsenal can only hope and try to continue to perform well and secure their position in the Champions League zone. They can no longer hope to win the title, unless Liverpool really experiences a very significant decline in performance. I don't think Liverpool will experience that, they will definitely fight hard to win the Premier League title this season.

There is nothing to distract Liverpool anymore, I mean they just need to keep their focus on one competition which is the Premier League. They have been eliminated from all other competitions and now Liverpool will only secure the Premier League. Arsenal of course still have other competitions they need to fight for, but their chances of continuing to the semifinals are probably very low considering their opponent is Real Madrid.

[Adams0001]

I definitely did not expected Newcastle to manage to beat Liverpool here. I expected Liverpool to be far greater and have an easy win, turns out I was wrong and they lost it. Newcastle isn't a great team and they do not look that much better neither, no idea how they managed to get that kind of win. If we can see Liverpool keep failing like this in the upcoming games, then maybe even premier league title would be at risk, so they need to recalibre whatever is wrong with them and manage to get easier wins instead.

Newcastle as a team not doing as well as expected since the takeover, but at the very least they managed to get a cup, which is important, Spurs still do not have one lol. I remember Newcastle from like 5-6 years ago, like with Saint Maximin being great times and all that, and after the takeover, people expected a lot more from them. This could be a start, maybe?

Liverpool played quite well against Newcastle; it's only that they weren't fortunate enough to win the title. And Newcastle didn't waste their chances on the pitch. Even I didn't believe Newcastle would have the potential to defeat Liverpool in the final, and I was quite startled by the game. Liverpool did everything they could to win the trophy, but they didn't have the luck in the game. And PSG has eliminated them from the Champions League this season, and I don't see Liverpool winning any titles this season other than the Premier League. M. Salah is no longer in contention for the Ballon d'Or, and I think he won't win. since he lost the UCL this season. They will concentrate solely on the Premier League. I believe he will be pleased if Newcastle wins trophies this season, and they will do everything they can to achieve that. What an excellent performance by Newcastle's coach. Isak is a key player, and I am confident that big clubs will begin to show interest in signing him.

[el kaka22]

Liverpool winning the title is almost guaranteed, people who still have hopes for Arsenal should not have any hopes, they are not going to win and we are not going to see them get any good results. The fact that Arsenal will lose points and we all know they will, makes Liverpool even easier title winner because they won't be getting a good result neither but at least Arsenal won't neither.

The gap between them is too huge for Arsenal to close, it would require Arsenal to lose very few points or even none when Liverpool is losing, and we all know that won't happen. I agree with mathematical discussion, PSG is not mathematically champions neither, but we do not doubt them, same goes for Liverpool at premier league too.

[Spack17]

Arsenal are once again about to watch someone else lifting the trophy over their shoulders...



I wonder whether they prepared one of these for the 2024-25 season as well. 

All kidding aside, I'm sorry for Arteta in the first place. This guy is a really good manager. He saved this team from the deeps as you can remember. He made Arsenal a title challenger again.

However they are able to chase the title only until a point which is not even the final moments of a season. As of now, I want to see the same thing many other people want to - a great finisher. Arteta also wants to sign a credible striker this summer. I hope they don't make a bad choice.

[sokani]

But, if we compare Amorim with another coach who successfully managed the team in half a season, Amorim looks like he failed to manage MU based what on he did before. If we talk about players who can't compact on his strategy, Amorim should quickly adaption to the current squad. he was expected by many people to lift MU position from the bottom rank, but he can't do that so far so make many people are disappointed in his performance, and perhaps recruit a new coach to replace him. If he can't recruit a new player to fill up the gap position, I think he will not be long, and will be replaced soon by a coach who is targeted such as Xavi Hernandez.

And who would you compare Amorim with, Van Nistelrooy? You can see how Leicester is struggling, is he doing any better? How about Ivan Juric who took over from Russell Martin, is Southampton having it easy? Y'all should cut him some slack. He's not a magician that would come in and immediately fix all United problems. The team was already in a mess when he took over and it will take some time to turn things around.

[Zaguru12]

The gap between them is too huge for Arsenal to close, it would require Arsenal to lose very few points or even none when Liverpool is losing, and we all know that won't happen. I agree with mathematical discussion, PSG is not mathematically champions neither, but we do not doubt them, same goes for Liverpool at premier league too.

This is actually what my point is, we aren’t saying that Liverpool can actually sustain or win every game they have left but first of all the point gap is mind boggling and to many yes I have actually witnessed Liverpool bottling a league with more than 10 points gap before but the difference then was the team chasing them. Then it was almost a three to four horse race but right now we have only Arsenal at their tail, this same Arsenal aren’t themselves consistent to win every game, in fact the way it is now there is possibility that Arsenal will drop more point moving forward than Liverpool.

Liverpool played quite well against Newcastle; it's only that they weren't fortunate enough to win the title. And Newcastle didn't waste their chances on the pitch. Even I didn't believe Newcastle would have the potential to defeat Liverpool in the final, and I was quite startled by the game.

Liverpool only grew into the game after the second Newcastle goal. From the start of the game Newcastle were the better team and in honesty they truly deserved the win. Many actually ruled them out even before the game but in honesty they are solid side, if there is any club in the league on the mid table that can defeat any top team in the premier league it is always Newcastle for me because they are packed up with so much energetic players that can play more than even the regular minutes and it was this energy that actually caused Liverpool the problems they had in the game

[pawel7777]

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However they are able to chase the title only until a point which is not even the final moments of a season. As of now, I want to see the same thing many other people want to - a great finisher. Arteta also wants to sign a credible striker this summer. I hope they don't make a bad choice.

Even though Arsenal still have mathematical chances, I think it's fair to say they won't win the Premier League this season. The 12-point gap is just too big. Even though Liverpool is showing some signs of season fatigue and they haven't been performing great recently, I don't see them losing that many points in only 9 games. Even assuming Arsenal beats Liverpool on 10th May, that still wouldn't do the trick.
I think Arsenal has a higher chance of winning the Champions League than winning the Premier League, and that's what they should focus on.

[blue Snow]

Liverpool winning the title is almost guaranteed, people who still have hopes for Arsenal should not have any hopes, they are not going to win and we are not going to see them get any good results. The fact that Arsenal will lose points and we all know they will, makes Liverpool even easier title winner because they won't be getting a good result neither but at least Arsenal won't neither.

The gap between them is too huge for Arsenal to close, it would require Arsenal to lose very few points or even none when Liverpool is losing, and we all know that won't happen. I agree with mathematical discussion, PSG is not mathematically champions neither, but we do not doubt them, same goes for Liverpool at premier league too.

It is most likely impossible for Arsenal to close the gap points because they have to win all the remaining matches, while Liverpool only needs 5 wins and 1 draw to lock the title. I think the fans must be realistic and don't expect the Premier League title. It's more relevant if Arsenal expects the next step in the Champions League tournament than the Premier League when we compare their performance. Arteta can focus on that tournament and does not split concentration many tournaments to strengthen the solidarity. both teams will also meet on may which possibility Liverpool can win the match, and embarrass Arsenal at Anfield.

[shinratensei_]

Arsenal are once again about to watch someone else lifting the trophy over their shoulders...



I wonder whether they prepared one of these for the 2024-25 season as well.  

All kidding aside, I'm sorry for Arteta in the first place. This guy is a really good manager. He saved this team from the deeps as you can remember. He made Arsenal a title challenger again.

However they are able to chase the title only until a point which is not even the final moments of a season. As of now, I want to see the same thing many other people want to - a great finisher. Arteta also wants to sign a credible striker this summer. I hope they don't make a bad choice.

I hope Arsenal prepares another one for the current season.  Their gap to the liverpool isn't that big, and worthy to prepare a new one.

As for the club. i think they completely failed under arteta. What's he point for them to always become title challenger while they never won it? So much money wasted for nothing. I feel their owner, Kroenke is also getting reluctant in spending more money. He's not satisfied with his club's result.

It's also obvious how they have to sell some before they able to sign a quality striker. However the problem is considering their history. i don't think they can sign quality striker because they're not a proven club.

Let's imagine if i was Osimhen, i'd rather pick Chelsea instead of them consider the chance to win the trophy is bigger.

[tygeade]

If we look at EPL table then it's clear that Liverpool has played exceptionally well throughout this season, they have lost only one game and won 21 games this season. Arsenal was out of EPL title race when they lost there games against WHU, Arsenal likely to finish second on points table third time in a row provided they perform well in upcoming matches else they might go down on points table. It's strange to see that Liverpool who has done so good in EPL was not able to perform well in other competitions.

Liverpool wasn't a team anyone expected to be this good this season. With a new manager coming in, everyone assumed they would have to give a year or two before Arne Slot could make the team better, but he took it over and made it great overnight. Klopp of course left a great team, and Slot didn't had to get many players to make the team better, Salah was the one that provided the most and that helped Arne Slot a lot.

Arsenal is unlucky in this sense, because normally they failed to win the league because of Manchester City twice, now that City is bad, they could have been title winners if Liverpool didn't win this many games. Three times in a row being placed second place is making the fans a little bit angry, so Arsenal has to make some changes for next year.

[ITExpert]

It is most likely impossible for Arsenal to close the gap points because they have to win all the remaining matches, while Liverpool only needs 5 wins and 1 draw to lock the title. I think the fans must be realistic and don't expect the Premier League title. It's more relevant if Arsenal expects the next step in the Champions League tournament than the Premier League when we compare their performance. Arteta can focus on that tournament and does not split concentration many tournaments to strengthen the solidarity. both teams will also meet on may which possibility Liverpool can win the match, and embarrass Arsenal at Anfield.

Arsenal have destroyed themselves if they had played well and picked up the points because of their strength they wouldn't have had to win all the matches in the end. Arsenal is a very good team but it doesn't have the strength to win all the matches at the moment, that's why Arsenal is going to be weak now.  It's easy for Liverpool because they are stronger and faster so they can do it and win this title too. Arsenal need a lot of hard work and good performance in which they may find it difficult in the next matches which makes it difficult for Arsenal to win. This match will be awaited as we will see three teams in this match in which I see Liverpool as the best.We've got a lot of interest in this league because it's going to be tough for Arsenal, so if they work hard and make themselves a winner, we'll get a lot of interest.

[Velvet78]

I'm wondering where Forest are going to finish the season. They are still keeping the 3rd position safely from much competition. Chelsea and Manchester City are in a distance of at least 5 points.

There are still 9 more games to be played. It is a gap that can be closed in this time period. However how good will these two teams play for top 4? 

That's the prize question. They are both keeping a really bad form. With this statistics, it would be easy for Forest to keep even their current position. They still have some tough games waiting for them too so let's see...

[DubemIfedigbo001]

But, if we compare Amorim with another coach who successfully managed the team in half a season, Amorim looks like he failed to manage MU based what on he did before. If we talk about players who can't compact on his strategy, Amorim should quickly adaption to the current squad. he was expected by many people to lift MU position from the bottom rank, but he can't do that so far so make many people are disappointed in his performance, and perhaps recruit a new coach to replace him. If he can't recruit a new player to fill up the gap position, I think he will not be long, and will be replaced soon by a coach who is targeted such as Xavi Hernandez.

And who would you compare Amorim with, Van Nistelrooy? You can see how Leicester is struggling, is he doing any better? How about Ivan Juric who took over from Russell Martin, is Southampton having it easy? Y'all should cut him some slack. He's not a magician that would come in and immediately fix all United problems. The team was already in a mess when he took over and it will take some time to turn things around.

For me, Van Nistelrooy was doing very better at old Trafford than Amorim, yes I know his performance at Leicester isn't that much impressive reason being that Leicester has more midfielders and fewer attackers than Manchester United and Van Nistelrooy was better at attacking football which is the reason he performed very well in his first four matches at old Trafford. The only forward at Leicester is Vardy who isn't enough tho provide his magic up front. I believe with more strikers, he'll do better. My only fear is if he would make it past the relegation zone this season.

[Altryist]

For me, Van Nistelrooy was doing very better at old Trafford than Amorim, yes I know his performance at Leicester isn't that much impressive reason being that Leicester has more midfielders and fewer attackers than Manchester United and Van Nistelrooy was better at attacking football which is the reason he performed very well in his first four matches at old Trafford. The only forward at Leicester is Vardy who isn't enough tho provide his magic up front. I believe with more strikers, he'll do better. My only fear is if he would make it past the relegation zone this season.

Four games is too little to draw conclusions about how good a manager Van Nistelrooy could have been at Manchester United. It matters who their opponents were, and it was a time of change, the players knew there would be a change of manager, maybe there was some positivity in that too, because they saw that they couldn't achieve anything good with ten Hag, by the way, something similar might be happening with Amorim.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

For me, Van Nistelrooy was doing very better at old Trafford than Amorim, yes I know his performance at Leicester isn't that much impressive reason being that Leicester has more midfielders and fewer attackers than Manchester United and Van Nistelrooy was better at attacking football which is the reason he performed very well in his first four matches at old Trafford. The only forward at Leicester is Vardy who isn't enough tho provide his magic up front. I believe with more strikers, he'll do better. My only fear is if he would make it past the relegation zone this season.

Four games is too little to draw conclusions about how good a manager Van Nistelrooy could have been at Manchester United. It matters who their opponents were, and it was a time of change, the players knew there would be a change of manager, maybe there was some positivity in that too, because they saw that they couldn't achieve anything good with ten Hag, by the way, something similar might be happening with Amorim.

Four games was too little I agree but starting with a good performance is a plus. You could bear witness to the fact that the players showed high enthusiasm then than now. If you watch Leicester play, you'll enjoy their games more than Manchester United. The only thing that prevents can Nistelrooy from excelling there is lack of competent strikers, they miss lots of chances, and in return concede and loose. I think can Nistelrooy coaching style carries more optimism than Amorim although I'll like to mention that Amad's absence really weakened Amorim, just like Rodri's absence weakened Guardiola.