⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[arimamib]

... So Liverpool and Chelsea will face each other in the Carabao Cup final this season. These two teams are both so great that I think it will be difficult to determine who will win the Carabao Cup trophy this season. I want to see Chelsea performance more impressive in the final match because the opponent they face is not a team that they can easily beat so Pochettino has to come up with more effective tactics to be able to beat Liverpool.

The prospect of Liverpool and Chelsea facing off in the Carabao Cup final promises an exciting and highly competitive match. Despite Chelsea having a struggling phase, they have never lost to Liverpool in last few years. It's worth to expect an impressive performance from Chelsea in the final, especially considering the formidable opponent in Liverpool. It will also be another final for Pochettino to face Liverpool after UCL 2019.

Pochettino needs to devise effective tactics to face Liverpool, because the final could be a turning point for Chelsea to improve their form and mentality, if they win of course. The anticipation of a closely contested match adds to the excitement, as both teams boast talented squads and successful histories. The outcome will likely hinge on the teams' performances on the day, the effectiveness of tactical approaches, and the ability of individual players to make a decisive impact.

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[Godday]

The prospect of Liverpool and Chelsea facing off in the Carabao Cup final promises an exciting and highly competitive match. Despite Chelsea having a struggling phase, they have never lost to Liverpool in last few years. It's worth to expect an impressive performance from Chelsea in the final, especially considering the formidable opponent in Liverpool. It will also be another final for Pochettino to face Liverpool after UCL 2019.

I think even though Chelsea is not in good form this season, even I saw H2H where all their last 5 matches ended in a draw. So I think even though Chelsea are in bad form, they are quite superior to Liverpool.

[makishart]

What do you think about Ceferin's statement "We know we were right"?

Aleksander Ceferin insists UEFA ‘knew we were right’ over allege Financial Fair Play breaches by Manchester City.

City were banned from the Champions League for two seasons and fined £25m in January 2020 after they were found to have seriously misled UEFA and broken Financial Fair Play rules.

However, the Court of Arbitration overturned the ban seven months later and reduced the fine to £10m.

But City have faced similar charges on domestic grounds, with the Premier League finding 115 breaches in February 2023 that spanned over nine seasons.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/24/man-city-premier-league-charges-uefa-knew-right-champions-league-ban-says-aleksander-ceferin-20162943/

When an official of such a high level makes such statements, it means that he already approximately knows how the matter will end. Will the Premier League really be able to punish City for cheating? Sounds incredible, but maybe it's time to punish the real scammers and not Everton?
I would like to see how City will be seriously punished: they will take away their titles and send them to the Championship.
And suddenly it turns out that Solskjaer with United were able to achieve gold! 

City is still having another chance to turn back the sanction. I will not even expect city to get big sanctions caused by that. The reason why it will not be a problem for the city is that the club is always financially supported by oil money, which acts as a protective shield against any potential major sanctions that may come their way.

It sounds impossible to punish city and money has protected it from any of serious sanction is going to be received by manchester city. City will be sanctioned but court of arbitration will help it again.

This is just another similar pattern repeated. Nothing surprise if i will see city to get light sanctions.

[SeriouslyGiveaway]

In the EFL leg 2 semi-final, Chelsea put in a great performance to beat Middlesbrough to reach the final. Although Chelsea lost against Middlesbrough in the 1st leg, Chelsea's strong attack came in the 2nd leg and scored 6-1. Middlesbrough's own player conceded an own goal at the start of the game and from then on their game began to deteriorate and Chelsea took advantage of this weakness to score 6 goals at the end of the game. Chelsea led by 4 goals in the first half and 2 more after half time, all in all they played a great game against Middlesbrough. Now the Chelsea team is entering the final and they are probably more likely to play the final match against Liverpool I think.

This was an explosive match for Chelsea with Cole Palmer shining. Even though I knew Chelsea would easily win against Middlesbrough when playing at home, this was a result that surprised me quite a bit. This big victory was partly due to Middlesbrough losing the game quite early with an own goal from Middlesbrough midfielder Jonny Howson.
This early goal gave Chelsea more confidence and spirit to score more next goals. If we can defeat Liverpool in the final, it can be said that this is an extremely important trophy for Chelsea in a season when they played poorly.

[klidex]

This should be important to note that we are talking about a team that has reached semi finals of FA cup while being a championship level team. And when we are talking about a "championship level team", do not consider them as some amazing team leading the league, nearly there at premier league already or something like that.

Middlesbrough is 11th right now in championship, so they are not even good at their league, it is 90% guaranteed that they are not going to be at premier league next season, that's the level they are in right now and still somehow managed to get to semi finals of the fa cup. This means that they did all the best they could do, and even though they ended up losing, we should still consider them as doing fine.

In domestic competitions, sometimes "Championship level teams" can put up more resistance when facing premier league clubs, especially if they are clubs that are not from the premier league, but still they can reach the semi-finals and beat the majority of premier league clubs, even Middlesbrough beat Chelsea, which is a league club the main event was quite tough so that his success in reaching the semi-finals could be appreciated even though he failed to reach the final because he was defeated by Chelsea in the second leg.

In the Championship League Middlesbrough are not in a good ranking but they are quite good in the league cup competition so that make them quite confident and have shown their best and as best they can, I hoped one day this club can take part in the main league competition and improved the team performanced so that they can appearing in the main competition, I am sure that over time Middlesbrough can do that and can further advance the club.

[tusandii]

Yes, I admit that Brighton has many opportunities to score and beat Wolves, but as you said, Wolves have a different strategy and I saw from yesterday's performance that Wolves focus more on their defense so that the central midfielders and attacking players always help each player's defense line. Brighton tried to attack and this strategy was successful with the aim of Wolves not wanting to lose points and also wanting to maintain their position to improve their consistency.
I know that we weren't the only ones who lost betting on Brighton but there were a lot of people who lost their bets because Wolves can't be taken lightly this time so there's no need to regret losing the bet.

Brighton team could not score any goal in this match. I thought that Brighton team might score and win the match, for which I bet in support of Brighton team, but Brighton team players did not score any goal. Brighton team goalkeeper J. Steele played well in this match. However, J. Pedro  And F. Buonanotte didn't play well. F. Buonanotte played well in the previous matches. Wolves team players played very well which made this match draw but Wolves goal keeper J. Sá performed very well in this game.

Your expectation was too high for brighton. I have seen the previous game of this club and brighton played like shit. This club keeps repeat the pathetic strategy which is always focusing on how to passing the ball one to each other.
I must be honest if the attacking line of brighton was toothless. I didn't even see any fight from all of them , nothing. No passion, no quality.

I knew there was no quality owned by the attacking line of brighton from the beginning. Brighton's squad was not good enough to be watched. The defensive line was not that strong combined with terrible attackers.
It was a complete garbage club. If brighton keep losing the points and it's not good enough for the club. This is not acceptable result for all of bettors.

Brighton needs to do better in upcoming game. It shall never be wasting any opportunity again in the future. It's really unacceptable result.

Maybe everyone has a different opinion, but I respect your opinion because I admit that compare to other clubs in the Premier League, Brighton doesn't have a strongs attack line, just players who don't have good quality.
The problem is that we are talking about two clubs, Wolves and Brighton, which both have almost equal performance in the middle club class.
I think that these two club have quite an interesting match, giving each other a fight, even though they are not as attractive as the big clubs in appearance, but the problem is that this is a club that is in the middle of the points table which only has standar performance.
So that doesn't mean I have high hope, but I'm just giving my opinion about what I see because it's true that Brighton actually has a much higher chances of winnings than Wolves, it just that Wolves have a fairly tight defensive strategy.

[Distraction]

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To be fair, they are not a team that has been great for many years, last year was a good year, and this year they looked good for a while before starting to be bad, and that's about it, a year before last year was a terrible start and they got better eventually but they still didn't end up being all that great.

So all in all, for a team that has been decent only for a while, we can't really say that they are the leaders in the candidate for the title winner. I think they are the third best team so they should finish third in the league, I would put them there, and that makes sense, but I wouldn't put them beyond Liverpool and city, those two teams has dominated the last ten years, and they will end up being better than everyone else.

Arsenal fans must have really missed the times with players like Henry.    Because those times were the brightest for this team. Since then I don't remember a single Premier League title achieved by Arsenal... The last time they won this title was in the 2003/04 season. It has been 20 years since then, time flies. 

Now Arteta has a big responsibility. Maybe the board wasn't expecting Arsenal to improve this much when they first brought him. However Arsenal can't still reach the championship.

Like I said they would really benefit from having some more experienced players with a leader character. Signing a player such as Mbappe would also change things a lot but I wouldn't expect Mbappe to choose Arsenal while there are better alternatives.

[Kristiyana]

I think even though Chelsea is not in good form this season, even I saw H2H where all their last 5 matches ended in a draw. So I think even though Chelsea are in bad form, they are quite superior to Liverpool.

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

[makishart]

I think even though Chelsea is not in good form this season, even I saw H2H where all their last 5 matches ended in a draw. So I think even though Chelsea are in bad form, they are quite superior to Liverpool.

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

I think that any prediction will be useless to measuring how strong chelsea is. Im concerning about the situation of chelsea, the club is always up and down. It was making it very difficult to compare chelsea to the liverpool. Look at the first leg against middlesbourgh. Chelsea played like a shitty club but the second leg was far different compared to the first leg. It means that chelsea can also perform as good as liverpool. We are still one month away from the final of carabao cup. There will be so many things to happen.

Liverpool can also go down to the bottom again. Im expecting salah to play in the final of carabao cup. Chelsea needs to put salah and diaz as the main attention. The club needs to use good RB and LB to prevent liverpool deadliest winger.
Chelsea has enough time to make preparation against liverpool. It will be so good if chelsea will win the carabao cup. Assuming that Chelsea performs with the correct strategy and line up, everything should go according to plan.

The blues have chance to beat liverpool even when its opponent will be on the peak performance. I will be waiting for what plan wll be using by pochettino in the final of carabao cup.

[emrecemsan]

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

Agreed. Liverpool and Chelsea look technically no match in performance now. They got a draw against each other at Stamford Bridge before though. But it was the 1st week of the season at the same time. It isn't sensible to make assumptions from that week as a result.

But Salah won't be able to play against Chelsea in their upcoming duel - which is only 6 days away. This changes things a lot as Salah is a crucial member of the team. I think Liverpool might have more problems on scoring multiple goals depending on Chelsea's defense.

What do you think?

[Popkon6]

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

Agreed. Liverpool and Chelsea look technically no match in performance now. They got a draw against each other at Stamford Bridge before though. But it was the 1st week of the season at the same time. It isn't sensible to make assumptions from that week as a result.

But Salah won't be able to play against Chelsea in their upcoming duel - which is only 6 days away. This changes things a lot as Salah is a crucial member of the team. I think Liverpool might have more problems on scoring multiple goals depending on Chelsea's defense.

What do you think?

Liverpool are a very good and important team at the moment, and Liverpool have performed well throughout the season. Liverpool most important player at the moment is Mohamed Salah, if Mohamed Salah does not participate in the game, Liverpool team will definitely face danger. Because Mohamed Salah, the most important player in the attacking department, can't do it properly if he doesn't get into the team. No matter how strong Liverpool goalkeepers and defenders are, Liverpool are in danger when their attack department is weak.

[QueenVera]

Arsenal fans must have really missed the times with players like Henry.    Because those times were the brightest for this team. Since then I don't remember a single Premier League title achieved by Arsenal... The last time they won this title was in the 2003/04 season. It has been 20 years since then, time flies.  

Now Arteta has a big responsibility. Maybe the board wasn't expecting Arsenal to improve this much when they first brought him. However Arsenal can't still reach the championship.

Like I said they would really benefit from having some more experienced players with a leader character. Signing a player such as Mbappe would also change things a lot but I wouldn't expect Mbappe to choose Arsenal while there are better alternatives.

Arsenal are really now turning to a team that’s dependent on past glory as the last time they got the EPL title is over 20 Years ago and not just that, you can see how they get eliminated from the FA Cup which they’ve got the highest, they get eliminated so fast and quick which is unlike the Arsenal of old. Mikel Arteta has got some muh a task to do with this Arsenal team, especially as yes he’s improved the way the team is shaped and have also taken them back to the UCL. Now he’s got a challenge of winning the league and this seems much a heavy task for him.

 I think he’ll need a big name addition to this squad and if you’re thinking Mbappé, I think you’ve got to think well because I don’t think Arsenal will have that amount of money to spend on him and besides Arsenal are a building project and Mbappé needs an already established project where he’ll easily fit in and get the European titles he needs.

[onecall123]

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

Agreed. Liverpool and Chelsea look technically no match in performance now. They got a draw against each other at Stamford Bridge before though. But it was the 1st week of the season at the same time. It isn't sensible to make assumptions from that week as a result.

But Salah won't be able to play against Chelsea in their upcoming duel - which is only 6 days away. This changes things a lot as Salah is a crucial member of the team. I think Liverpool might have more problems on scoring multiple goals depending on Chelsea's defense.

What do you think?

Liverpool are a very good and important team at the moment, and Liverpool have performed well throughout the season. Liverpool most important player at the moment is Mohamed Salah, if Mohamed Salah does not participate in the game, Liverpool team will definitely face danger. Because Mohamed Salah, the most important player in the attacking department, can't do it properly if he doesn't get into the team. No matter how strong Liverpool goalkeepers and defenders are, Liverpool are in danger when their attack department is weak.

Excited about this upcoming game! Both Liverpool and Chelsea bring class, flair, and the true essence of football to their fans. Liverpool has a good chance of winning if their key players are available, but it won't be a walk in the park. Interestingly, Chelsea tends to perform well against Liverpool but often ends up with a draw or a loss. As a football fan, I hope this time the outcome will different. I won't jump to congratulate Liverpool just yet; matchday scenarios can always bring surprises.

[KTChampions]

What do you think about Ceferin's statement "We know we were right"?

Aleksander Ceferin insists UEFA ‘knew we were right’ over allege Financial Fair Play breaches by Manchester City.

City were banned from the Champions League for two seasons and fined £25m in January 2020 after they were found to have seriously misled UEFA and broken Financial Fair Play rules.

However, the Court of Arbitration overturned the ban seven months later and reduced the fine to £10m.

But City have faced similar charges on domestic grounds, with the Premier League finding 115 breaches in February 2023 that spanned over nine seasons.

https://metro.co.uk/2024/01/24/man-city-premier-league-charges-uefa-knew-right-champions-league-ban-says-aleksander-ceferin-20162943/

When an official of such a high level makes such statements, it means that he already approximately knows how the matter will end. Will the Premier League really be able to punish City for cheating? Sounds incredible, but maybe it's time to punish the real scammers and not Everton?
I would like to see how City will be seriously punished: they will take away their titles and send them to the Championship.
And suddenly it turns out that Solskjaer with United were able to achieve gold! 

City is still having another chance to turn back the sanction. I will not even expect city to get big sanctions caused by that. The reason why it will not be a problem for the city is that the club is always financially supported by oil money, which acts as a protective shield against any potential major sanctions that may come their way.

It sounds impossible to punish city and money has protected it from any of serious sanction is going to be received by manchester city. City will be sanctioned but court of arbitration will help it again.

This is just another similar pattern repeated. Nothing surprise if i will see city to get light sanctions.

These are exactly my thoughts, but why did Ceferin suddenly make this attack towards the City? How to explain this? If we talk formally, then the City can sue him for damage to its business reputation and all that. Therefore, these events encourage me and allow me to dream a little about how City will be punished and this will break the actual history of the Premier League (Solskjaer’s gold with United! Ahahahaha!). Theoretically, if all the other clubs in the league feel cheated (and they have every reason to believe so), then they can punish City, regardless of how City managed to evade punishment from UEFA.

[tusandii]

I doubt it honestly because there is no way Liverpool performance can be compare with Chelsea when it has become obvious that Chelsea is very inconsistent on this season while Liverpool has been able to have been leading the premier League, so if perhaps Chelsea was better than Liverpool on this premier League they would have been leading the table instead of Liverpool.

Agreed. Liverpool and Chelsea look technically no match in performance now. They got a draw against each other at Stamford Bridge before though. But it was the 1st week of the season at the same time. It isn't sensible to make assumptions from that week as a result.

But Salah won't be able to play against Chelsea in their upcoming duel - which is only 6 days away. This changes things a lot as Salah is a crucial member of the team. I think Liverpool might have more problems on scoring multiple goals depending on Chelsea's defense.

What do you think?

Liverpool are a very good and important team at the moment, and Liverpool have performed well throughout the season. Liverpool most important player at the moment is Mohamed Salah, if Mohamed Salah does not participate in the game, Liverpool team will definitely face danger. Because Mohamed Salah, the most important player in the attacking department, can't do it properly if he doesn't get into the team. No matter how strong Liverpool goalkeepers and defenders are, Liverpool are in danger when their attack department is weak.

Excited about this upcoming game! Both Liverpool and Chelsea bring class, flair, and the true essence of football to their fans. Liverpool has a good chance of winning if their key players are available, but it won't be a walk in the park. Interestingly, Chelsea tends to perform well against Liverpool but often ends up with a draw or a loss. As a football fan, I hope this time the outcome will different. I won't jump to congratulate Liverpool just yet; matchday scenarios can always bring surprises.

Yes, it is very bad to competen at home, even twice almost losing its reputations when play against Bremen, finally Bayern lost point and yesterday when playing against Union, it was very clears that the club was very weak at the moments but Bayern Munich was unable to scores in big number and even almost finish draws.
The only questions is where is the performances of Harry Kane and the other players?
It's very strange that Bayern Munich doesn't have problems with players and looks fine, but somehow Bayern Munich is experiences a very deeps decline in performances and it is necessary to ask why this club is so bad.
For Bayer Leverkusen, it seem that they are very enthusiastic and have the desire to survive and lead the Bundesliga until the end of the season, but I'am worried that Leverkusen will lose their consistency because it is impossible for a club to survive undefeated until the end the seasons.

[Distraction]

Manchester United's downfall is continuing. After getting very poor results for weeks they have dropped to 8th position. I mean Chelsea started the season much worse but they are right behind the Red Devils by only 1 point.   

Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the ownership deal with Manchester United on December 24, 2023. Since then there isn't much change in Manchester United's form. It has been only a month though so I really wonder his actions in the future. Do you think he would sack Erik ten Hag soon? Truthfully I don't feel like Erik ten Hag can maintain his job if the placement of the team in the EPL continues to be terrible like now.

[Godday]

Liverpool are a very good and important team at the moment, and Liverpool have performed well throughout the season. Liverpool most important player at the moment is Mohamed Salah, if Mohamed Salah does not participate in the game, Liverpool team will definitely face danger. Because Mohamed Salah, the most important player in the attacking department, can't do it properly if he doesn't get into the team. No matter how strong Liverpool goalkeepers and defenders are, Liverpool are in danger when their attack department is weak.

Salah plays an important role in all Liverpool matches. Salah not only scored goals, but he also provided assists and opened up space for other Liverpool players. Without Salah, of course Klopp has to change the strategy and tactics of their game because there is no player who can replace Salah's role at Liverpool. I think Salah will miss Liverpool's two important EPL matches, namely against Chelsea and Arsenal. And I can say that their chances of winning decreased when Salah was injured.

[Oluwa-btc]

Manchester United's downfall is continuing. After getting very poor results for weeks they have dropped to 8th position. I mean Chelsea started the season much worse but they are right behind the Red Devils by only 1 point.   

Sir Jim Ratcliffe completed the ownership deal with Manchester United on December 24, 2023. Since then there isn't much change in Manchester United's form. It has been only a month though so I really wonder his actions in the future. Do you think he would sack Erik ten Hag soon? Truthfully I don't feel like Erik ten Hag can maintain his job if the placement of the team in the EPL continues to be terrible like now.

There's no change that happened immediately, you'll have to wait until they resume next week fully back to the Premier League Competition against Wolverampton which I believe will be a hard game for them yet again.

Manchester United and Chelsea are no doubts two poor sides so far and has taken forever before they bounce back to the top for good. Meanwhile Manchester United jas nothing clearly to boast of this season, Chelsea has the Carabao Cup Competition finals ahead next month. A good chance to see them winning against Liverpool and also Pochetino Mauricio winning a trophy for the first time. I hope they do through coz they've suffered from last season and this very season.

[QueenVera]

These are exactly my thoughts, but why did Ceferin suddenly make this attack towards the City? How to explain this? If we talk formally, then the City can sue him for damage to its business reputation and all that. Therefore, these events encourage me and allow me to dream a little about how City will be punished and this will break the actual history of the Premier League (Solskjaer’s gold with United! Ahahahaha!). Theoretically, if all the other clubs in the league feel cheated (and they have every reason to believe so), then they can punish City, regardless of how City managed to evade punishment from UEFA.

City been affected by FFP seems really impossible because they’re heavily backed with oil money and that’s backings outside the nation. So the Saudis won’t want to dent their name thereby they wouldn’t mind spending behind closed doors to avoid the FFP, they've got the funds and would do everything possible to avoid deduction of points like Everton, so as to win the trophy this season.

 Another side to the story is what if they were just one of these teams to fall victim of cheap blackmail by a Journalist. Well if that’s the cast, then I think they’ve got every right to sue the journalist for trying to spoil the name of the club. In all I think FFP should be more serious when investigating a matter and should try to be neutral amd charge anyone found guilty no matter the caliber of persons involved.

[Onyeeze]

Chelsea and Aston villa, Chelsea is missing their chance of winning the match and I taught that before now that Aston villa will even score Chelsea before now due to their performance already starting from this match, so what I was expecting from the match is goal goal but no goal has being scored and secondly I was even thinking that Chelsea will not get draw in this match, what I seen here is showing me that this match is already draw, because its already getting to an end, and assuming Aston villa defeated Chelsea now they would have clamped up in table