⚽ Premier League 2023/2024 Discussion Thread ⚽

[ILuckyGuyI]

It is a season defining game for Arsenal as they have got bigger gons to play in the premier league while also playing Bayern Munich in the champions league as well. Who do you reckon Arsnela would defeat amongst their top fixtures? Chelsea? City? or Manchester United?

Add the Aston Villa game also there. Because it can also be a tricky one depending on Emery's strategies. They beat Arsenal once home as a reminder. 

Yeah, there are really tough games waiting for Arsenal in the remaining part of their fixture. Combining the tough PL games with the CL games against Bayern Munich makes things really terrifying for them.

I don't feel like Arsenal will collect maximum points in those big games in the PL. But I would really like to see them surprising me. Because it has been just 20 years since they became the champions here. I wouldn't say no to their breaking a leg and finally lifting the trophy! 

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[pawel7777]

Having games like;

Tottenham Hotspur against Manchester City and  Aston Villa against Manchester City is reason enough why nobody should write off Manchester United from qualifying for that top four position.

You should also notice that Man United will also be playing against tough opponents like Liverpool and Arsenal, but with their current disposition, they might trip on much easier teams.
I think Aston Villa is probably already beyond United's reach, but, luckily, if the below source is correct, they only need to get to 5th place to play in the UCL next season:

Apparently 5 EPL teams will be able to qualify for the Champions League next season through league position. This had something to do with West Ham eliminating Freiburg in Europa League, which boosted England's coefficient rank and moved them above Germany, meaning EPL will earn an additional UCL spot.
This is explained in this article:
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12940385/five-champions-league-places-for-premier-league-how-extra-team-can-qualify-in-2024

So there's still some hope for Man United and Ten Hag.

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

[aylabadia05]

There is nothing impossible for Arsenal and Liverpool to win the EPL title this season, because Manchester City could make a mistake at the end of the season, no one knows but anything can happen, so both clubs still have a chance to win the EPL title this season Arsenal have certainly learned a lot from the previous season where they always failed in the EPL title race, and Liverpool also want this season's EPL as a special gift for Klopp before leaving Liverpool after this season.

Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City still have a big chance of winning the EPL title this season and they also have the opportunity to make mistakes that will make one fail to realize their dreams at the end of the season.
The level of consistency of the three of them will determine success or failure in their efforts to win the title in each remaining match.

The competition to win the title starts this week. Arsenal will visit the Etihad. This is the first match to see which of them will maintain their chances of leading the standings until the end of the season.
They will probably lose against a bottom team and that is what I mean by the blame that will fall on them.

[Falconer]

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Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City still have a big chance of winning the EPL title this season and they also have the opportunity to make mistakes that will make one fail to realize their dreams at the end of the season.
The level of consistency of the three of them will determine success or failure in their efforts to win the title in each remaining match.

The competition to win the title starts this week. Arsenal will visit the Etihad. This is the first match to see which of them will maintain their chances of leading the standings until the end of the season.
They will probably lose against a bottom team and that is what I mean by the blame that will fall on them.

This is a difficult away game for Arsenal, but it is not impossible for them to win. Manchester City are certainly favorites at home, they also hold a good home record against Arsenal but the outcome of the match is still very difficult to predict. Arsenal have beaten Manchester City in the last two games, so this should be a difficult away game to predict instead of saying Manchester City have a higher chance of winning.

Arsenal's ambition is of course about 3 points at the Etihad and leading the standings, but Manchester City's ambition is to try to defend their title and win every game. Arsenal will lead the standings if they win, but if Manchester City wins then Liverpool will be in the lead, especially if Liverpool can beat Brighton.

[Xxmodded]

Arsenal's ambition is of course about 3 points at the Etihad and leading the standings, but Manchester City's ambition is to try to defend their title and win every game. Arsenal will lead the standings if they win, but if Manchester City wins then Liverpool will be in the lead, especially if Liverpool can beat Brighton.

Arsenal huge ambition for beating Manchester City in front of their fans and has opportunity for premier league trophy this season, but Manchester City won't loss any point yet when playing on their home with one point left from Arsenal and Liverpool has chance return to 1st or 2nd place depend on Liverpool match result.
Liverpool can beat Brighton Albion and Manchester City or Arsenal don't make match result draw, its give advantage for Liverpool if can win from Brighton has two points from Arsenal and three points from Manchester City.
Premier League format with goal difference and not matter with lead head to head home and away match, Liverpool lack goal productivities must scoring many goals on every matches left.

[beerlover]

these three teams do have a chance to win the season title and I wouldn't be surprised if anyone would favor these three teams, but for some reason I still doubt Arsenal and exclude Arsenal from the list of candidates for the EPL title this season.
the reason is quite simple, since several seasons ago, Arsenal have always failed in terms of competing with popular teams towards the end of the season and the example that was clearly visible at the end of last season clearly showed that Arsenal was very close to getting the EPL title but in fact Arsenal failed to maintain their consistency and ended with failure.
and on the one hand I actually think that Liverpool can get this opportunity even though they still have to fight against Man City, but from experience I know that Liverpool is able to take advantage of the end of the season to finish at the top of the standings.

One of the three will win that is for sure, and fans of each team will want their team to win and will claim to be the better team. I think Arsenal is not that great, not as good as the other two, they are "looking" good there is no doubt about that because everything worked well for them so far, but I think they are not the team that can finish a season strong, we will probably see them crack under the pressure, this is only the second time they are in this place.

Liverpool and City on the other hand has been here for many times and they could probably finish stronger, I am guessing that we are going to end up with something that will change a lot, that should be the most important thing and I am guessing it won't be that weird.

[tusandii]

There is nothing impossible for Arsenal and Liverpool to win the EPL title this season, because Manchester City could make a mistake at the end of the season, no one knows but anything can happen, so both clubs still have a chance to win the EPL title this season Arsenal have certainly learned a lot from the previous season where they always failed in the EPL title race, and Liverpool also want this season's EPL as a special gift for Klopp before leaving Liverpool after this season.

Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City still have a big chance of winning the EPL title this season and they also have the opportunity to make mistakes that will make one fail to realize their dreams at the end of the season.
The level of consistency of the three of them will determine success or failure in their efforts to win the title in each remaining match.

The competition to win the title starts this week. Arsenal will visit the Etihad. This is the first match to see which of them will maintain their chances of leading the standings until the end of the season.
They will probably lose against a bottom team and that is what I mean by the blame that will fall on them.

Talking about Manchester City's chances of winning the match against Arsenal, Pep Guardiola is very sure that he is ready to embarrass Arsenal's troops with a defeat score that Arsenal will take home.
If we talk about the chances of getting the premier league title this season, it looks like Manchester City will be in the lead at the end of the season without a doubt, while Manchester City's players are still the same as last season, they have very solid cooperation between players and I am willing to bet on Manchester City success at the end of the season is in first place on the points table to get rid of Liverpool and Arsenal.

Edit :
I was too ambitious to judge the results of Manchester City's match which would win against Arsenal but it was all in vain when Manchester City's performance was less aggressive while playing at home should have greater enthusiasm.
It is clear from the appearance of the mainstay players who can be expected to score but fail to score, such as Haaland and de Bruyne, as if they lack confidence.
Rodri also looked enthusiastic at first, but as the match progressed, Rodri seemed to be performing less than optimally.
What was even more frightening was that Gabriel Jesus almost scored against Manchester City several times and if that happened I couldn't say anything.

[arimamib]

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Talking about Manchester City's chances of winning the match against Arsenal, Pep Guardiola is very sure that he is ready to embarrass Arsenal's troops with a defeat score that Arsenal will take home.
If we talk about the chances of getting the premier league title this season, it looks like Manchester City will be in the lead at the end of the season without a doubt, while Manchester City's players are still the same as last season, they have very solid cooperation between players and I am willing to bet on Manchester City success at the end of the season is in first place on the points table to get rid of Liverpool and Arsenal.

Guardiola being confidence in beating Arsenal is reasonable if we look at how Manchester City reacted to ending season games. They were always so strong in the ending phase of a season. Manchester City's consistency teamwork indeed make them favorite to the title race. The familiarity and synergy among the players from the previous season can be a significant advantage in maintaining momentum and pushing for success.

Competitors like Liverpool and Arsenal have their own strengths and aspirations, and the title race is likely to be fiercely contested until the final whistle of the last match. Placing confidence in Manchester City's prospects to win the league is just common sense given their track record and current form. Three horses race till the end makes things complicated for each team, because one mistake can cost big by being overtaken by the other two.

[Abu-Naim]

Arsenal's ambition is of course about 3 points at the Etihad and leading the standings, but Manchester City's ambition is to try to defend their title and win every game. Arsenal will lead the standings if they win, but if Manchester City wins then Liverpool will be in the lead, especially if Liverpool can beat Brighton.

Arsenal huge ambition for beating Manchester City in front of their fans and has opportunity for premier league trophy this season, but Manchester City won't loss any point yet when playing on their home with one point left from Arsenal and Liverpool has chance return to 1st or 2nd place depend on Liverpool match result.
Liverpool can beat Brighton Albion and Manchester City or Arsenal don't make match result draw, its give advantage for Liverpool if can win from Brighton has two points from Arsenal and three points from Manchester City.
Premier League format with goal difference and not matter with lead head to head home and away match, Liverpool lack goal productivities must scoring many goals on every matches left.

Arsenal ambition to get the complete three points at Etihad stadium which will be difficult for them because Manchester City haven’t lost any match at Etihad stadium this season; for this reason, I am also thinking that Manchester City will win the match because if they lose the match, they will slightly lose their chance of winning the Premier League this season. Nevertheless, Arsenal will not also let them beat them easily because they knew what Manchester City did to them last season; they (Arsenal) will want to make history by defeating Manchester City to give them more hope of winning the league. Therefore, I am expecting a draw in the match.

[poodle63]

Arsenal's ambition is of course about 3 points at the Etihad and leading the standings, but Manchester City's ambition is to try to defend their title and win every game. Arsenal will lead the standings if they win, but if Manchester City wins then Liverpool will be in the lead, especially if Liverpool can beat Brighton.

Arsenal huge ambition for beating Manchester City in front of their fans and has opportunity for premier league trophy this season, but Manchester City won't loss any point yet when playing on their home with one point left from Arsenal and Liverpool has chance return to 1st or 2nd place depend on Liverpool match result.
Liverpool can beat Brighton Albion and Manchester City or Arsenal don't make match result draw, its give advantage for Liverpool if can win from Brighton has two points from Arsenal and three points from Manchester City.
Premier League format with goal difference and not matter with lead head to head home and away match, Liverpool lack goal productivities must scoring many goals on every matches left.

Arsenal ambition to get the complete three points at Etihad stadium which will be difficult for them because Manchester City haven’t lost any match at Etihad stadium this season; for this reason, I am also thinking that Manchester City will win the match because if they lose the match, they will slightly lose their chance of winning the Premier League this season. Nevertheless, Arsenal will not also let them beat them easily because they knew what Manchester City did to them last season; they (Arsenal) will want to make history by defeating Manchester City to give them more hope of winning the league. Therefore, I am expecting a draw in the match.

It's better the arsenal tries to learn from its experiences last season when it was bottling PL trophy at the end of season. Arsenal lost last season because it lost all of its games to Manchester City and bottling some games against mediocre teams. City cannot perform with its best squad now which is my main reason to recall the possibility of arsenal that may also win against City at Etihad Stadium but who knows if club will be bottling it again soon. Many people believed that this will be another easy game against City at Etihad Stadium, but the outcome may differ from our expectations (probably) and it will surprise many people. Manchester City will undoubtedly be missing some key players such as Stone and Walker, who were getting injured during the international break. It means that City's defensive line has been further weakened with the addition of defenders from the secondary squad, who will face Arsenal soon and this must the major problem owned by manchester city consider that the quality compared to the main players are too far. There are so many injured players.

You shouldn't have high expectations for the outcome of this game because Arsenal can blow it like when it bottled the EPL trophy last season. Arsenal and Manchester City are unlikely to play defensively in this game because both of clubs wanted three points from each other, as this is the only thing that has helped the club get closer to Liverpool, which can defend its position.
I don't doubt the quality of either club, but I believe Manchester City has a stronger mentality than Arsenal. Some details have yet to be confirmed, such as whether De Bruyne and Martinelli will play in this game.

It is obvious that if those players were injured and have not yet confirmed their participation in the upcoming game. Having them play for both clubs will also increase the tension from this match, considering the fact that

[klidex]

Arsenal ambition to get the complete three points at Etihad stadium which will be difficult for them because Manchester City haven’t lost any match at Etihad stadium this season; for this reason, I am also thinking that Manchester City will win the match because if they lose the match, they will slightly lose their chance of winning the Premier League this season. Nevertheless, Arsenal will not also let them beat them easily because they knew what Manchester City did to them last season; they (Arsenal) will want to make history by defeating Manchester City to give them more hope of winning the league. Therefore, I am expecting a draw in the match.

In their last meeting, Arsenal were able to get the full 3 points against Manchester City, but it was held at the Emirates Stadium, so Arsenal had the advantage because they played as hosts. So they were able to make it difficult for the guests club and managed to win the match even with a narrow score. In this second meeting, Arsenal also really want to beat Manchester City again but it seems like they are facing difficulties because Manchester City is playing as host while Arsenal is coming as a guest so Arsenal's chance of winning is not as big as Manchester City's. But with Arsenal's current performance, even though it is difficult to get 3 points, at least Arsenal can maximize the draw and share points together to continue competing for the Premier League title.

Manchester City and Arsenal are in good form at the moment so it is quite difficult to determine who will win the match even though statistically Manchester City has the advantage of playing at home, but this is the injury problem that Manchester City must overcome so that they are not overwhelmed when they face Arsenal later.

[Hanadawa]

Arsenal, Liverpool and Manchester City still have a big chance of winning the EPL title this season and they also have the opportunity to make mistakes that will make one fail to realize their dreams at the end of the season.
The level of consistency of the three of them will determine success or failure in their efforts to win the title in each remaining match.

The competition to win the title starts this week. Arsenal will visit the Etihad. This is the first match to see which of them will maintain their chances of leading the standings until the end of the season.
They will probably lose against a bottom team and that is what I mean by the blame that will fall on them.

Yes of course. The Premier League is unpredictable. Lower ranked teams can give you surprises and that is a mistake that City, Arsenal and Liverpool should not make. One mistake will make the competition for the championship even tougher. The Arsenal vs City match will provide an opportunity for Liverpool to take first place. But Liverpool still has 1 match against Arsenal on matchday 37. I think this competition will last until the end of the league. City have the biggest chances, but the three teams are not that different. This is really very exciting to watch.

[JeffBrad12]

People are now putting all of their focus on the clash between the city and Many people are doubting the performance of the city and Arsenal because there have been several players who have been rumored to be injured. It will be obviously impacting the performance from city and arsenal
There have been also latest update regarding the list of injury players in manchester city and arsenal.

Manchester city



Arsenal


Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-vs-arsenal-injuries-every-player-ruled-premier-league
 
It can be seen that Timber has been officially out of the squad against Manchester City. Several reports have said that some players, such as De Bruyne, Grealish, and Saka, will be coming back in the clash between Arsenal and Manchester City. We shall wait for a further update regarding this.
We may be seeing some surprises once the official line up will be officially published by EPL.

[len01]

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One of the three will win that is for sure, and fans of each team will want their team to win and will claim to be the better team. I think Arsenal is not that great, not as good as the other two, they are "looking" good there is no doubt about that because everything worked well for them so far, but I think they are not the team that can finish a season strong, we will probably see them crack under the pressure, this is only the second time they are in this place.

Liverpool and City on the other hand has been here for many times and they could probably finish stronger, I am guessing that we are going to end up with something that will change a lot, that should be the most important thing and I am guessing it won't be that weird.

certainly one of them will lead at the end of the season but it won't be that easy because last season there is only competition between Arsenal and Man City, but this season Liverpool have returned to participate in the EPL title this season so that the competition becomes very interesting but I still say there is no Arsenal opportunities because as you say that Arsenal who have too heavy pressure this season when they have to compete in the quarter finals of the UCL after a long time never managed strong from the Bundesliga.
well, this is the difficulty that must be faced by Arteta when they have to rotate the Arsenal players perfectly to maintain the quality of Arsenal performance and I am sure that Arsenal still fail.
TBH, I want to see Liverpool who will later become a leader at the end of the season and we can see the odds given by the bookie for the EPL winner this season Liverpool became the second favorite team after Man City with Odds @3.00 and Man City @2.20

[emrecemsan]

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

It is probably due to reaching thousands of pages on the old Premier League thread. It is a mega thread now and spam is much more common there. Maybe you will question why it isn't locked, I don't know.  


Romeo Lavia's last condition has been announced and it looks like he won't be able to play in the remaining part of the season either. Chelsea are really unlucky with their transfers. They have been struggling with many injuries for a long time. If the injury problem wasn't this serious would they be better? I can't be confident about it as well.  


_{Lavia injury source: Transfermarkt}

It is like all that money spent is for nothing. They are still in the middle of the league standings. Zero difference between last 2 seasons...

[HajiBagi]

People are now putting all of their focus on the clash between the city and Many people are doubting the performance of the city and Arsenal because there have been several players who have been rumored to be injured. It will be obviously impacting the performance from city and arsenal
There have been also latest update regarding the list of injury players in manchester city and arsenal.

Manchester city



Arsenal


Source: https://www.90min.com/posts/man-city-vs-arsenal-injuries-every-player-ruled-premier-league
 
It can be seen that Timber has been officially out of the squad against Manchester City. Several reports have said that some players, such as De Bruyne, Grealish, and Saka, will be coming back in the clash between Arsenal and Manchester City. We shall wait for a further update regarding this.
We may be seeing some surprises once the official line up will be officially published by EPL.

Based on my observations, certain players are on the injury list but will still participate in this match. For example, De Bruyne, a player for Manchester City, will play because his injury is not too serious and, as far as I can tell, nothing will happen to him—the team simply doesn't want him to travel to international competitions in order to avoid getting hurt. De Bruyne, a key player for Manchester City, recently returned from an injury that had not lasted more than two months. The team knows that losing him would make it extremely difficult for them to win any leagues this season, even though Walker's injury is not serious, and they don't want anything to happen to him because they have important matches after international matches.

Regarding Arsenal, Bukayo Saka will play the game. His injury is not too serious, as we recall; prior to the injury, Saka had not participated in any international matches, not even in training. I have noticed that teams these days are smart and do not want to risk having one of their key players injured. Every team is hiding their players, which is a good thing because if we look at these international matches, many players who will return later on will return with injuries.

[TastyChillySauce00]

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

It is probably due to reaching thousands of pages on the old Premier League thread. It is a mega thread now and spam is much more common there. Maybe you will question why it isn't locked, I don't know.  


Romeo Lavia's last condition has been announced and it looks like he won't be able to play in the remaining part of the season either. Chelsea are really unlucky with their transfers. They have been struggling with many injuries for a long time. If the injury problem wasn't this serious would they be better? I can't be confident about it as well.  


_{Lavia injury source: Transfermarkt}

It is like all that money spent is for nothing. They are still in the middle of the league standings. Zero difference between last 2 seasons...

Buying Lavio is clearly the stupidest mistake made by Chelsea when it needs a good midfielder. Lavia was prone often to get injuries and will be out of the club for several months again which is very bad for the club. The injury has destroyed his career, and I'm not sure if Lavia will be able to play for Chelsea next season. It means that Chelsea will work hard to make the situation even better by selling him to another club since it sounds impossible to happen but i hope he will out even he has not yet made his debut in chelsea.

That is a terrible recruitment by Chelsea's scouting team, and I have no idea what is going on with them these days. They appeared to be inexperienced in recruiting new talent, and Chelsea has yet again delivered bad news. Lavia's career is probably over this time.

His tendency to injure himself appears to be difficult to overcome. It appears that God has decided Chelsea's fate to play without Lavio for the upcoming season. What a terrible signing from the club. Chelsea can do better than recruit him.
Very disappointed with Lavia's injury; it will take even longer than expected.

[Oluwa-btc]

You should also notice that Man United will also be playing against tough opponents like Liverpool and Arsenal, but with their current disposition, they might trip on much easier teams.
I think Aston Villa is probably already beyond United's reach, but, luckily, if the below source is correct, they only need to get to 5th place to play in the UCL next season:

ps. why do we have 2 EPL threads?

Manchester United hasn't lost to Liverpool though during the games they have played this season, but this final straw would mean alot since they'd be having players like Alexander Arnold and Diogo Jota returning and to be fit for the game against Manchester United, we will definitely come to that on the 7th of April.

For Arsenal, they have always got the better of Manchester United firbsine seasons, maybe Manchester United can try to challenge them this second leg. They lose the first game so I see no ho they'd want to repeat same lose against Arsenal. Anyways, Gunner's still remains my favorite club to win the Premier League Competition even if I'm fond of Manchester United.

I can't give a response to that honestly, but since it's kickin' smoothly without spammers, good then. We'd hope Manchester United overtakes Aston Villa then. Lol

[Smack That Ace]

Arsenal ambition to get the complete three points at Etihad stadium which will be difficult for them because Manchester City haven’t lost any match at Etihad stadium this season; for this reason, I am also thinking that Manchester City will win the match because if they lose the match, they will slightly lose their chance of winning the Premier League this season. Nevertheless, Arsenal will not also let them beat them easily because they knew what Manchester City did to them last season; they (Arsenal) will want to make history by defeating Manchester City to give them more hope of winning the league. Therefore, I am expecting a draw in the match.

In their last meeting, Arsenal were able to get the full 3 points against Manchester City, but it was held at the Emirates Stadium, so Arsenal had the advantage because they played as hosts. So they were able to make it difficult for the guests club and managed to win the match even with a narrow score. In this second meeting, Arsenal also really want to beat Manchester City again but it seems like they are facing difficulties because Manchester City is playing as host while Arsenal is coming as a guest so Arsenal's chance of winning is not as big as Manchester City's. But with Arsenal's current performance, even though it is difficult to get 3 points, at least Arsenal can maximize the draw and share points together to continue competing for the Premier League title.

Manchester City and Arsenal are in good form at the moment so it is quite difficult to determine who will win the match even though statistically Manchester City has the advantage of playing at home, but this is the injury problem that Manchester City must overcome so that they are not overwhelmed when they face Arsenal later.

This is definitely an ambitious target for Arsenal to get three points from this match. But what else are they going to do? They have to go for a win. Because that is going to be the difference maker. If Arsenal wants to win the English Premier League competition, they will have to win this one. And it is the same for Manchester City as well. They will have to get an upper hand if they actually want to win the English Premier League title. But Manchester City is going to be under more pressure because they also have to think about the Champions League competition as well.

If we just talk about the match between Arsenal and Manchester City, I think there is a big chance that the match ends in a draw. And I think there is a very less chance of being a goalless draw in this match. I am pretty sure there are going to be multiple goals in this match

Regards

Duke

[Velvet78]

Why does it have to be Gareth Southgate? Gareth Southgate might be considered an experienced coach and as we know he has coached the England national team for quite a long time but until now he has not had any good achievements that he can present. So I think Gareth Southgate is not the coach that Man United needs right now. Maybe it would be better if Man United tried to sign Xabi Alonso. He may not have much experience, but what I see is that he is a coach who has a winning mentality and I think this is the kind of coach that Man United should get.

Of course it doesn't have to be Southgate. I just talked about it because of the recent rumours going around.    There are surely better options with really good careers.

I have already mentioned Conte as an example. He is familiar with the Premier League already you know. He has a nice history with Chelsea like winning a Premier League and an FA Cup titles. Maybe he would be considered as one of the candidates in case of deciding to sack Erik ten Hag. However there are new rumours like Sir Jim Ratcliffe can give another chance to Erik ten Hag for next season. If this happens they had better make their transfers properly in the summer.