⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[QueenVera]

The final match will be played at the Etihad stadium. It would be a great place to celebrate a championship. City are in the best position to win the EPL this season. They will play West Ham and it is not a difficult opponent for them. I don't expect any surprises as City will be very motivated to win. And you're right City won't have any pressure in the final game. The reason is because they are playing at home. With the support of fans, I am sure City will be able to beat West Ham. It looks like we can congratulate City on winning the EPL title this season.

Lol, I wonder why still hoping Arsenal has a chance to lift the EPL this season because after that display of City at the Tottenham stadium, where they were behind in passes and everything but still were able to get a 2-0 victory, how much more in front of their own fans for the las match of the season. Arsenal too might not be under much pressure except that they’ll be under the pressure of making sure they get a victory and Everton aren’t to be overlooked.

 Yes they fought through relegation battle and points deduction and were able to make it to this stage, so they will sure be putting up a hard fight on the last day. West Ham are Arsenal’s fellow Londoners and you know when the hope of your victory is in your hardcore enemy, you know what to expect. ⁠Funny enough the repeat of the Tottenham game might play down but this time Man City could win with a 3-1 margin or maybe 4-1 if possible.

 So I think Arsenal fans shouldn’t have high hopes because it’s season over already and it’s bizzare to expect City to lose on last day in fromt of her fans who will fill the stadium to cheer the players up. Congratulations can start coming in for Man City and for Arsenal I think they should take this improvement into next season and be very consistent next season and try not to lose as much games as they did this season, who knows they could win the league next season.

[pawel7777]

The bookies have spoken:



Odds for the outright winner:



They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.

[len01]

Lol, I wonder why still hoping Arsenal has a chance to lift the EPL this season because after that display of City at the Tottenham stadium, where they were behind in passes and everything but still were able to get a 2-0 victory, how much more in front of their own fans for the las match of the season. Arsenal too might not be under much pressure except that they’ll be under the pressure of making sure they get a victory and Everton aren’t to be overlooked.

however, Arsenal fans should hope that Arsenal will win the EPL title this season, even though it is clear that Man City will not give up the title this season and will still get 3 points, but we also have to appreciate the surprises that could happen.
this is just speculation from me which doesn't make sense, for example the Man City match ends in a draw and Arsenal can get 3 points from Everton and that means both teams have the same points but it depends on the total scores of the two teams and if these two teams Arsenal can score more big, I think Arsenal deserves to be at the top of the standings because of the advantage of having more scores.
It is very difficult to predict the final result of this season even though it is really clear that Man City can win and get 3 points, but as a bettor you will definitely think about this.

It could be that Man City ends in a draw with a score of, for example, 2-2 against West Ham and Arsenal ends with 1-0 against Everton.
this means that the total score obtained by Man City is around 95 scores, while Arsenal only has 90 scores, while both teams have the same points and it is Man City who ends up at the top of the standings because of their superiority in calculating the total score.
so as a bettor you have to really consider this.

[pawel7777]

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It could be that Man City ends in a draw with a score of, for example, 2-2 against West Ham and Arsenal ends with 1-0 against Everton.
this means that the total score obtained by Man City is around 95 scores, while Arsenal only has 90 scores, while both teams have the same points and it is Man City who ends up at the top of the standings because of their superiority in calculating the total score.
so as a bettor you have to really consider this.

I think you got a bit confused about the rules. The first deciding factor that is consider in case both teams have the same points is not the goals scored, but the GOAL DIFFERENCE.
From the Premier League booklet itself:

If any two or more Clubs have scored the same number of points their position in the League Table shall be determined on goal difference, that is to say, the difference between the total number of goals scored by and against a Club in League Matches in the Competition during that Season (“Goal Difference”), and the higher or
highest placed Club shall be the Club with the higher or highest Goal Difference

But IF two clubs had the same number of points and the same goal difference then the team that scored more goals overall would be ranked higher.

So long story short, if Man City were to lose or draw on Sunday and if Arsenal were to win their game, Arsenal would win the league.

source: EPL Handbook pdf page 111

[Abu-Naim]

The bookies have spoken:



Odds for the outright winner:



They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.

A good time to bet if the support is real.

I will go with West Ham to draw in one of my slip and I will play West Ham to win on another slip just to show my support to Arsenal because I don’t want Manchester City to win this League this time.

[ginsan]

A good time to bet if the support is real.

I will go with West Ham to draw in one of my slip and I will play West Ham to win on another slip just to show my support to Arsenal because I don’t want Manchester City to win this League this time.

I have no doubt that Manchester City will win easily against West Ham. Fans will fill the Etihad Stadium for the final match and welcome Manchester City to become champions. I will bet on Manchester City winning because in terms of strength, Manchester City is stronger and also Manchester City dominates the victory when facing West Ham. Of course I know you are an Arsenal fan and of course you will bet on West Ham winning. I hope your decision brings you luck because the opponent West Ham is facing is the strongest team who will play more aggressively to find victory.

So I think Haaland will be able to score goals and bring the EPL trophy for the 4th time in a row. Even though football is always full of surprises, it will be difficult to happen and we know that Pep is a genius coach, he will definitely set the best strategy because one more match they will break record.

[Antotena]

A good time to bet if the support is real.

I will go with West Ham to draw in one of my slip and I will play West Ham to win on another slip just to show my support to Arsenal because I don’t want Manchester City to win this League this time.

I will say that you are making a blind support here because you want Arsenal to win badly but emotions doesn't determine the outcome of a match. Deep down, you know well that Manchester united will not allow West ham to disgrace them in Old Stamford bridge but you want them to lose. I'm not even sure if West Ham can do that right now, the bookies that gave them high odd knows they can't but you want to enter their bait but it's cool.

I have said it before, the moment Arsenal loss that match to Aston Villa, they have lost the Premier League trophy right from that moment, you don't do a mistake and then expect another team to make the same mistake you did, you can expect that from other teams but not from Manchester City because they will feast on their last match and nothing will change after for Arsenal.

[Issa56]

Lol, I wonder why still hoping Arsenal has a chance to lift the EPL this season because after that display of City at the Tottenham stadium, where they were behind in passes and everything but still were able to get a 2-0 victory, how much more in front of their own fans for the las match of the season.

Arsenal fans are hoping Manchester City will lose their last match which is against West Ham, but i how is that even going to be possible, I know premier league is unpredictable, but Manchester City can’t afford to lose a match like this, pep will do everything in his power to make sure that he gets 3 points in the match, I think Arsenal fans should just stop having high hope that they can still win the premier league this season. The match which everyone was thinking will be difficult for Manchester City was their last match against Tottenham, it wasn’t really easy for Manchester City but they were able to score two goals in the match.

So I think Arsenal fans shouldn’t have high hopes because it’s season over already and it’s bizzare to expect City to lose on last day in fromt of her fans who will fill the stadium to cheer the players up.

All what Arsenal should focus on currently is how they will improve their performance next season, if they can try harder next season, they might be able to win the premier league, but it’s just better they stop thinking Manchester City will lose their last match, I know it’s possible, but I don’t think something like that is going to happen.

[pawel7777]

Arsenal fans are hoping Manchester City will lose their last match which is against West Ham, but i how is that even going to be possible, I know premier league is unpredictable, but Manchester City can’t afford to lose a match like this, pep will do everything in his power to make sure that he gets 3 points in the match, I think Arsenal fans should just stop having high hope that they can still win the premier league this season. The match which everyone was thinking will be difficult for Manchester City was their last match against Tottenham, it wasn’t really easy for Manchester City but they were able to score two goals in the match.

Arsenal's fans are probably hoping that Man City will be eaten by the huge pressure of the game, and that would be the only reason they could possibly not win the game. Having over 50 thousand fans expecting nothing but a win could be intimidating to some clubs, but I don't believe that, at this level, Man City would have players cracking under the pressure.
If anything, they've proven plenty of times this season that the support of their fans has an uplifting effect on the team. They haven't lost a single game at home this season and noted 5 draws at home, but mostly against the teams from the very top. And again, West Ham have nothing at stake other than a rivalry for its own sake.
City not winning is simply not an option.

[arimamib]

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Arsenal's fans are probably hoping that Man City will be eaten by the huge pressure of the game, and that would be the only reason they could possibly not win the game. Having over 50 thousand fans expecting nothing but a win could be intimidating to some clubs, but I don't believe that, at this level, Man City would have players cracking under the pressure.
If anything, they've proven plenty of times this season that the support of their fans has an uplifting effect on the team. They haven't lost a single game at home this season and noted 5 draws at home, but mostly against the teams from the very top. And again, West Ham have nothing at stake other than a rivalry for its own sake.
City not winning is simply not an option.

Handling pressure in the title race has become a common circumstance for Manchester City for the last 7 years. It's Arsenal that feel more pressure in this situation. Their loss against Aston Villa have costed their lead over Manchester City. Arsenal have themself to blame, because competing with Guardiola's Manchester City need a perfect form without dropping points when closing to the ending of the season.

Hoping Manchester City to lose at their home in crucial game is like hoping a miracle to happen. They have quality and mentality to win a game in crucial circumstance, even if they concede first like it happened two season ago in the last game when they competed against Liverpool. Beating West Ham won't be a tough task for Manchester City, and we will just see Manchester City lifting the trophy in the end. 

[makishart]

Honestly speaking Chelsea players have really improved they won 4 match in a row, but for me it seems that this their improvement was a bit late for them because if they were be able to perform very well in their past 10 matches like they are performing now I think by now they would have been in 4 or 5 possion in the premier league.

Yes, Chelsea owner seems to have given the manager and players an ultimatum so that they must qualify for any Europa competition, considering Chelsea has spent 494M Euros in this season.
They failed to get any trophy in this season, only the Europa league or Conference league is the only hope left for Chelsea now.

Chelsea could still advance to the two finals. It demonstrated that if a club has potential to compete with the big clubs, but it may take more time to develop the squad considering the blues was starting from the bottom. The decision to reverse Chelsea's pre-season strategy has demonstrated the club's consistency in rebuilding itself and as long as chelsea can keep consistently in doing it and i strongly believe they will able to do that to enter the top clubs competition again.
Pochettino needs to maintain the momentum. Chelsea may be able to enter the conference league as a minimum achievement this season. I'm sure they'll start cooking in the upcoming season.

Pochettino has planned some important things for the summer transfer season. I am hoping Chelsea can bring at least one veteran player to the club in order to help him to develop the young player. It would be fantastic if Chelsea could bring Mbappe to the club, but that appears unlikely caused by mbappe has very expensive price at this time.
Being qualified for the conference league or the Europa League is still preferable to not getting anything this season.

Chelsea has tried everything they can to climb back up. Finishing in the top ten is already a good achievement for Chelsea, as opposed to finishing outside of the top ten last season.

[teamsherry]

This weekend would determine everything in the premier league, but for the winners I think we already know who that would be, man United has lost their position as 6th for good living the spot for either Chelsea or Newcastle, Chelsea is typing the spot with 3 points but it's also possible they lose their match against Bournemouth, right now I expect all the big teams to take home this last match.

[Litzki1990]

The bookies have spoken:



Odds for the outright winner:



They don't believe Man City will trip in the final game. Especially knowing West Ham have absolutely at stake here. Win or lose, they will finish in the 9th place.
So if anyone still truly believes that Arsenal can win the league, here's a good time to back it up with a wager. I don't.

This is definitely a positive aspect for Manchester City as they will be going up against a relatively less formidable opponent in their last match. If Manchester City's opponent was a strong team in the last match of the Premier League competition, they would have lost the title in the last match. Considering the way they are currently performing and the consistency of their performances, I think Manchester City will win the last Premier League match against West Ham. If Manchester City somehow wins the match against West Ham, Arsenal will have no chance of securing the title this season.

On the other hand, if Manchester City make a mistake, Arsenal will take the chance and take that chance to secure the title this season because Arsenal's next opponent is Everton against whom Arsenal must win in the last match. However, whichever team wins the title, I would definitely be betting on Manchester City in both of these matches, and Arsenal in the other match.

[emrecemsan]

It is over for Manchester United in the Premier League. The final week matches don't matter for them as they don't have any chance left for top 6. 

However there is still a chance to qualify for the Europa League. But they have to win the FA Cup trophy for that. Does anyone believe in them to do it against Manchester City? To tell the truth, I have near zero faith in them. Because Guardiola is really unstoppable now. I think he will start with winning the Premier League first and then it is going to be the turn of FA Cup.

I'm wondering what Manchester United is planning to do this summer. Will they continue with Erik ten Hag? No matter they do or not, they need to work hard on player signings certainly.

[Hanadawa]

But IF two clubs had the same number of points and the same goal difference then the team that scored more goals overall would be ranked higher.

So long story short, if Man City were to lose or draw on Sunday and if Arsenal were to win their game, Arsenal would win the league.

source: EPL Handbook pdf page 111

Yes this is absolutely true. I'm also confused when someone says that if two teams have the same points then what counts is the number of goals scored. As far as I know, the second factor is the goal difference. If City draw, whatever the score, then Arsenal will be champions if they win. Because even though they both have 89 points, Arsenal will be superior in terms of goal difference. But I just found out that goals scored are also a consideration. Because as far as I know, if both teams have the same goals and goal difference then the next reference is head-to-head. CMIIW.

[Google+]

It is over for Manchester United in the Premier League. The final week matches don't matter for them as they don't have any chance left for top 6. 

However there is still a chance to qualify for the Europa League. But they have to win the FA Cup trophy for that. Does anyone believe in them to do it against Manchester City? To tell the truth, I have near zero faith in them. Because Guardiola is really unstoppable now. I think he will start with winning the Premier League first and then it is going to be the turn of FA Cup.

I'm wondering what Manchester United is planning to do this summer. Will they continue with Erik ten Hag? No matter they do or not, they need to work hard on player signings certainly.

Manchester United's only hope to play in the Europa League is only by winning the FA Cup, but it is not an easy thing for Manchester United to be able to beat Manchester City in the final match later, for now Manchester City, who have lost the opportunity to win the Champions League trophy, naturally do not want to lose the remaining trophies they can achieve,  Manchester City now only need to wait for time and undergo one more game with a victory to win the Premier League trophy, as well as the FA which is still a priority for Guardiola to get after the Premier League trophy has been in hand, this season Manchester United performance is so bad that it is difficult for us to see they can beat Manchester City in the final match later.

Ten Hag future is still a difficult puzzle to solve, because indeed there seems to be no confirmation and certainty from Manchester United's current management, indeed it has been speculated if Manchester United are looking for a new coach next season but so far Ten Hag still has enough confidence to coach Manchester United next season,  It is even reported that Ten Hag already has several names of players that they might prioritise signing next season so I think it is very likely that next season Ten Hag will remain at Old Trafford.

[Ondekinecakabilirim]

This weekend would determine everything in the premier league, but for the winners I think we already know who that would be, man United has lost their position as 6th for good living the spot for either Chelsea or Newcastle, Chelsea is typing the spot with 3 points but it's also possible they lose their match against Bournemouth, right now I expect all the big teams to take home this last match.

Chelsea have won their last 4 games and are on a great streak. They have only lost to Arsenal, Manchester City and Liverpool in the last period. With their good performance in the last games, they have a chance to finish the season among the top 5 teams. But Tottenham will play their last game against Sheffield United, the last team in the league and they will probably win this game and finish the season in 5th place. Chelsea have had a good run in the last few weeks but it's a bit late. I expect Chelsea to win their last game, but I think the chances of them finishing in 5th place are very slim. Tottenham will beat Sheffield United and finish 5th in the league. Also, I would like to bet on Tottenham vs Sheffield United with both teams scoring goals. Sheffield United usually manage to score goals even if they don't win.

[QueenVera]

Chelsea could still advance to the two finals. It demonstrated that if a club has potential to compete with the big clubs, but it may take more time to develop the squad considering the blues was starting from the bottom. The decision to reverse Chelsea's pre-season strategy has demonstrated the club's consistency in rebuilding itself and as long as chelsea can keep consistently in doing it and i strongly believe they will able to do that to enter the top clubs competition again.
Pochettino needs to maintain the momentum. Chelsea may be able to enter the conference league as a minimum achievement this season. I'm sure they'll start cooking in the upcoming season.

Pochettino has planned some important things for the summer transfer season. I am hoping Chelsea can bring at least one veteran player to the club in order to help him to develop the young player. It would be fantastic if Chelsea could bring Mbappe to the club, but that appears unlikely caused by mbappe has very expensive price at this time.
Being qualified for the conference league or the Europa League is still preferable to not getting anything this season.

Chelsea has tried everything they can to climb back up. Finishing in the top ten is already a good achievement for Chelsea, as opposed to finishing outside of the top ten last season.

Well at this point I think this Chelsea team are now beginning to find their feet and with this performance then I can believe it will really be fierce for rival teams next season. This team just needs to be free from injury at least half of the season and you can expect nothing but at least top 4 finish from this team. Well I think they will be on fire in the pre season and I can’t wait to look forward to that time already because sincerely this team is fire at this point.

 Pochettino needs to keep up with the good maintenance of players relationship as that’s helped him to keep these young players together up till this time.⁠ Talking about additional players, yes I think it’s key to bring in at least one very key striker who is sharp and can score goals coming in from the wings and midfield. The club needs a veteran so fast and yes Mbappe might be too costly and I wouldn’t even advise for Kylian Mbappe yet, rather they can get other strikers who are ready to play and fight.

 ⁠The club will sure be in the Europa League because there are chances they could finish 5th and for 6th the chances is real high and you can be so sure of Man City winning the FA Cup, so it’s a place in Europa which is signals great progress in this Chelsea sqaud and I think this spirit should be kept up by the players whilst the mew season resumes.
 

[Velvet78]

Fifth or sixth, Chelsea give hope for next season. Pochettino and all the players must be grateful for Palmer's incredible contribution so far too (22 goals, 10 assists). I'm curious about whether he will get offers this summer and how things will go on after that.

This should be Cole Palmer? Not Mauricio Pochetino, Yes? When they had some of them best players Injured, even when they had Jackson misbehaving with scoring goals, Cole Palmer was there carrying the club on his shoulder and advancing and progressing forward with them. Qualifications for the European Competitions is all they're after, maybe next season they go hard on qualifying for the Champions League Competition.

Yes, I said exactly that. They must be thankful for Palmer for this whole season. Because he has made the biggest contribution like I said. Guardiola stated before that he tried to stop him from leaving the team but couldn't do it. It is totally normal though. Why would Palmer want to stay there while it is a far possibility for him to play regularly? 

When it comes to Pochettino I really am curious about his future. I think he would be retained. Chelsea have made a great progress and we can see its continuation by next season hopefully. They just need consistency.

[bitgolden]

Chelsea could still advance to the two finals. It demonstrated that if a club has potential to compete with the big clubs, but it may take more time to develop the squad considering the blues was starting from the bottom. The decision to reverse Chelsea's pre-season strategy has demonstrated the club's consistency in rebuilding itself and as long as chelsea can keep consistently in doing it and i strongly believe they will able to do that to enter the top clubs competition again.
Pochettino needs to maintain the momentum. Chelsea may be able to enter the conference league as a minimum achievement this season. I'm sure they'll start cooking in the upcoming season.

I do agree that Chelsea has a good potential for the future, with the young players that they have, and definitely lead by Palmer as well, we are going to keep thinking that we are going to do better. That doesn't mean that we are going to see them win the title, of course that is not going to be easy, but we are not going to see anything worse than that.

We should probably consider how to get better with time, and that means that we are going to end up with a result that will not be all that simple. Obviously this is going to take some time, but that doesn't mean that they can't wait. Think about it this way, if they can be great in 3-4 years, that would be good enough waiting, I can see them be great again with time for sure.