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June 14, 2024, 08:24:31 PM
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Keep focusing on the Premier League as the main target and downplay other competitions.? Obviously that is not a solution for a team like Arsenal which already has a mature squad. The goal of every team taking part in the competition is to win the title, Arsenal also really wants to achieve success in the Champions League. Arsenal just need to appear consistently in the Premier League, this season they are able to provide fierce competition to Manchester City which means the title race must be completed until the last match. Arsenal has quality, the depth of their squad cannot be underestimated by any team. They could surprise with the young squad that Arteta has, if they can concentrate more on each match, maybe Arsenal will be among the top teams in every competition they play.
I feel like that wouldn't be really a terrible idea, I am not saying that we are going to end up with a great result or anything like that, I am just saying that if they rest their players at FA cup and other English/British cups, and even the champions league, just ignore those and rest as many player as possible, then they would have a chance to make it work some other way at premier league.

This would allow them to have something that will get a lot different and we should consider that as something that will be calm and better in the end. I believe that we should consider how to get better in the end at premier league because what Arsenal really needs is to win that one, if they can do that then they could do whatever else.

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June 14, 2024, 08:25:46 PM
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Manchester United have left a really worrying season behind. Yeah, maybe they won an FA Cup title anyway but their performance in the PL was just horrible.  Sad

38 games; 57 goals scored and 58 conceded. Offense and defense both in bad situation. They had better start their transfer attempts as soon as possible. It looks like Erik ten Hag is staying also. Manchester United is expected to offer him a new contract soon. It is expected to be 2 more years. I hope they have a good transfer policy by listening to his wishes too.

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June 14, 2024, 08:32:11 PM
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I really didn't like what I saw from Liverpool last season. They gave up on the Premier League title so early. I wouldn't expect to see that in Klopp's goodbye season at least.  Sad

Now they are facing the danger of losing skilled players this summer and they have a new manager at the same time. It is like a fresh start after all those seasons with Klopp. I'm really curious about what kind of Liverpool we will see. I hope to see them back in the title race but for now I don't have any reason to trust Arne Slot for that. He will need to prove himself here first and it might even take some quite much time.

Even Klopp wasn't amazing in his first times.  Smiley

Liverpool failed to win the derby against the Toffees ( Everton ) Sean Dyche and his lads made it possible to continue the damage done to Liverpool by Atalanta during the midweek games as they lost one goal to nil at Anfield. You could see the Everton fans saying you lost the Premier League here and stuff. Lol, it was a day to remember for all Everton fans.

He is just joining Liverpool, he might or may not get quick and immediate impact but we will see, that don't mean he is a bad coach. I'm not sure Liverpool will finish top four though next season.

Back in the tittle race? They'll have to do that with quality incomings like tackling the defense issues and then that of the defensive midfielder role because Endo can't do it enough.

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June 14, 2024, 08:46:28 PM
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Manchester United have left a really worrying season behind. Yeah, maybe they won an FA Cup title anyway but their performance in the PL was just horrible.  Sad
Even if they didn't win the FA Cup, Man United won't even be able to enter the Europa League next season. This is really dropped. Meanwhile, in the previous season, Man United had a position at least in the top 3 and entered the UCL in the 2022/2023 season, only they failed and entered the Europa League qualification at that time. To be honest, this season, their procedures are quite horrible and there is a lot of ridicule aimed at them. It's just that they won the FA Cup, at least this is one remedy for their downturn this season.

And in the end, Man United still retained Ten Hag as their main coach. Yes, however, who else can replace Man United's coach besides Ten Hag in the current conditions? Even though his decisions are often quite controversial, in addition, he is quite good at formulating strategies. only, it's actually not that good. Yes, later we will try to see how ten Hags will change various things at the club this season. Because Man United certainly also has certain targets here as to why they are still keeping Ten Hag and why Ten Hag still wants to stay at Man United.

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June 15, 2024, 05:55:23 AM
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Aston Villa completely understood the assignment of retaining their position on the table, any slight lose from them might send them to the 5th position which means they wouldn't be qualified for the coming Champions league so they really needed to step up their game by securing that win yet it is no excuse for Arsenal because they really needed that win to become the Premier league winners but unfortunate how Aston villa outplayed them. Everything has ended and the trophy already awarded, coming season should be another chance for them to make up for their mistake this season, no doubt Arsenal still have the potential to win the Premier league competing again with City.

Aston Villa have performed very well this season. And finally the team qualified for the Champions League. But in the last few matches of the season we don't see good performances from Aston Villa players.

Aston Villa have the ability to challenge for the Premier League title. This team is strong and the players are very confident. However, several weaknesses in the Aston Villa squad are quite visible. Aston Villa's defenders have not fared well this season. .The team has conceded 61 goals in 38 games. If Aston Villa wants to do well in the next season, then the defense must be strengthened by the Aston Villa team. If the defense is not strong, Aston Villa will not be able to be in the top four of the table next season.
Atleast they were far more better than Chelsea and Manchester United, I appreciate their efforts. Aston Villa fully understood that they can't win the title or end the season as a runner up, so instead they maintained their 4th position on the table just to qualify for the Champions league. The team should try to improve, it is not just all about qualifying for the Champions league, are they competent enough to compete in the league because it will be very tough as most Champions from other leagues will us be competing, just as you said about their defence line, they should kick off enhancing it, I really want to see them do better coming season.
Expectations from United are always higher than ours but they cannot perform as much as we expect them to. We haven't seen Manchester United perform as well as Aston Villa last season. Manchester United did well last season due to which they qualified for the Champions League tournament in the last season but just finished the English Premier League this season Manchester United's performance was very poor. Due to this poor performance, Manchester United did not qualify for the Champions League and they also finished in a very poor position in the English Premier League. Manchester United have faith in their current manager so hopefully this team will perform well again next season.

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June 15, 2024, 06:33:01 AM
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Manchester United have left a really worrying season behind. Yeah, maybe they won an FA Cup title anyway but their performance in the PL was just horrible.  Sad

38 games; 57 goals scored and 58 conceded. Offense and defense both in bad situation. They had better start their transfer attempts as soon as possible. It looks like Erik ten Hag is staying also. Manchester United is expected to offer him a new contract soon. It is expected to be 2 more years. I hope they have a good transfer policy by listening to his wishes too.

One mustn't overlook their manager while making transfers otherwise it would be more difficult to make the system work.
They are one of the EPL clubs that have the worst productivity this season especially since they are a big club even if you look at their current condition in terms of goals scored comparable to Crystal Palace which value for players and levels should be far different Smiley

And with this Manchester United will still continue to keep Ten Hag for his performance and only see 1 trophy which is unexpected?  I think the risk is too great if you force a coach like this to be at Manchester United.
Indeed, in the end there will be a situation where the new coach will also have a transitional condition that may not be expected in terms of performance and adaptation at the beginning of the season but seeing the condition of Ten Hag staying in the squad with all the problems and dilapidation at this time I think it is also not a good decision for Manchester United.

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June 15, 2024, 06:42:56 AM
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I really didn't like what I saw from Liverpool last season. They gave up on the Premier League title so early. I wouldn't expect to see that in Klopp's goodbye season at least. (:
Now they are facing the danger of losing skilled players this summer and they have a new manager at the same time. It is like a fresh start after all those seasons with Klopp. I'm really curious about what kind of Liverpool we will see. I hope to see them back in the title race but for now I don't have any reason to trust Arne Slot for that. He will need to prove himself here first and it might even take some quite much time.

Even Klopp wasn't amazing in his first times.  Smiley

I think, Liverpool managements need to replace their manager in this season so that what happened last season will not repeat itself again, because Liverpool have the opportunity to win the premier league title but they started experiencing some challenges that made them to draw down to third position. If Liverpool players can still remain in the team in this season, I think it will be easy for their new manager to get it right to improve the team, because their players are still good in premier League competition. Liverpool will going to improve through their new manager because he is a talented manager and skillful in football, but anything that will make their strikers to leave the team to another team in this season, it will be difficult for Liverpool to dominate in this season.

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June 15, 2024, 09:27:29 AM
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I think, Liverpool managements need to replace their manager in this season so that what happened last season will not repeat itself again, because Liverpool have the opportunity to win the premier league title but they started experiencing some challenges that made them to draw down to third position. If Liverpool players can still remain in the team in this season, I think it will be easy for their new manager to get it right to improve the team, because their players are still good in premier League competition. Liverpool will going to improve through their new manager because he is a talented manager and skillful in football, but anything that will make their strikers to leave the team to another team in this season, it will be difficult for Liverpool to dominate in this season.
Liverpool this season has replaced their manager because previously Klopp has decided to resign and quit his position as Liverpool coach, Klopp has spent almost 9 years of his career with Liverpool and he is one of the most successful coaches in bringing glory to Liverpool, during 9 years with Liverpool, Klopp has succeeded and successfully won the Premier League,  Champions League, FA Cup, and two EFL Cups, this season Liverpool is of course in poor condition and even their performance often shows inconsistencies that indeed make them have to be eliminated from the title race for the English league, FA and also the European league this season, actually the beginning and middle of the season Liverpool were able to perform impressively but for some reason towards the end of the season Liverpool performance decreased drastically.

Arne slot next season will be Liverpool new coach and he is reportedly trying to maintain the current framework rather than doing a complete overhaul in the squad, not to mention that the style and philosophy of the game between Klopp and Slot are of course almost similar, so that way maybe we will not see a significant change in Liverpool playing style next season.

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June 15, 2024, 09:35:48 AM
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Quote from: Velvet78
I really didn't like what I saw from Liverpool last season. They gave up on the Premier League title so early. I wouldn't expect to see that in Klopp's goodbye season at least. (:
Now they are facing the danger of losing skilled players this summer and they have a new manager at the same time. It is like a fresh start after all those seasons with Klopp. I'm really curious about what kind of Liverpool we will see. I hope to see them back in the title race but for now I don't have any reason to trust Arne Slot for that. He will need to prove himself here first and it might even take some quite much time.

Even Klopp wasn't amazing in his first times.  Smiley

I think, Liverpool managements need to replace their manager in this season so that what happened last season will not repeat itself again, because Liverpool have the opportunity to win the premier league title but they started experiencing some challenges that made them to draw down to third position. If Liverpool players can still remain in the team in this season, I think it will be easy for their new manager to get it right to improve the team, because their players are still good in premier League competition. Liverpool will going to improve through their new manager because he is a talented manager and skillful in football, but anything that will make their strikers to leave the team to another team in this season, it will be difficult for Liverpool to dominate in this season.
The team will have to suffer the loss for one times because some players that are important to the team will leave as Klopp is also leaving and also some the new coach will have his own tactics that will require the management to sign some players for the coach which clearly show that some players will have to leave in that aspect, and if the players he signed are not from Premier League teams, they will also need to adapt to the Premier League style of play before they can be stable.

I am very sure Liverpool will missed out of the title race next season because it will be a difficult work for Arne Slot the new Liverpool manager because they will also be playing in the Champions League and some local leagues like FA Cup and Carabao Cup.

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June 15, 2024, 11:10:50 AM
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Manchester United have left a really worrying season behind. Yeah, maybe they won an FA Cup title anyway but their performance in the PL was just horrible.  Sad

38 games; 57 goals scored and 58 conceded. Offense and defense both in bad situation. They had better start their transfer attempts as soon as possible. It looks like Erik ten Hag is staying also. Manchester United is expected to offer him a new contract soon. It is expected to be 2 more years. I hope they have a good transfer policy by listening to his wishes too.

One mustn't overlook their manager while making transfers otherwise it would be more difficult to make the system work.

Yep, that's true, indeed they can win the FA Cup title by beating strong Manchester City in the Premier League. but it cannot be hidden that their performance in the Premier League was quite disappointing, with them finishing in a poor ranking, one could even say bad. with the decision made to retain Ten Hag, of course Manchester United must be able to provide full support to Ten Hag and it may still take time for Ten Hag to find Manchester United's best performance so that it is not like the previous season where they performed inconsistently.

Even though if you look closely, Manchester United is a big club known for its fierce performance with the nickname Red Devils. Manchester United must be able to fix the problems that plagued them which made them perform poorly in the Premier League. Next season I hope Manchester United can provide tough competition and finish in a fairly good ranking.

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June 15, 2024, 01:35:42 PM
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Yep, that's true, indeed they can win the FA Cup title by beating strong Manchester City in the Premier League. but it cannot be hidden that their performance in the Premier League was quite disappointing, with them finishing in a poor ranking, one could even say bad. with the decision made to retain Ten Hag, of course Manchester United must be able to provide full support to Ten Hag and it may still take time for Ten Hag to find Manchester United's best performance so that it is not like the previous season where they performed inconsistently.

Even though if you look closely, Manchester United is a big club known for its fierce performance with the nickname Red Devils. Manchester United must be able to fix the problems that plagued them which made them perform poorly in the Premier League. Next season I hope Manchester United can provide tough competition and finish in a fairly good ranking.

If the right kind of players are assembled, Erik Ten Hag will definitely do well with the lads and the club. It's okay to judge him but make sure use his first season or last season to judge him alone. He was brilliant in his first season because he had squad depth. I don't know why it hasn't been that way for them though.

Manchester United will have to invest in the defense and the defensive midfied role before any other thing else. Bad defense lead to all these golas scored a d conceded, if they're sorted out fully before the season kicks off, Manchester United will have a god backline. The name Victor Lindelof is also open to leaving Manchester United as he is being reported to be joining Jose Mourinho in the Turkish League Competition.

They will do better and Erik Ten Hag will not be sacked. If these two areas are sorted them they can now go on to another position to buy!

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June 15, 2024, 01:47:49 PM
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The team will have to suffer the loss for one times because some players that are important to the team will leave as Klopp is also leaving and also some the new coach will have his own tactics that will require the management to sign some players for the coach which clearly show that some players will have to leave in that aspect, and if the players he signed are not from Premier League teams, they will also need to adapt to the Premier League style of play before they can be stable.

I am very sure Liverpool will missed out of the title race next season because it will be a difficult work for Arne Slot the new Liverpool manager because they will also be playing in the Champions League and some local leagues like FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
Things dont work that way guy, just becuase Klopp has left the team doesnt mean some players will have to leave the team immediately. It is the new coach to choose which player he will keep for the season and any playr that does not ift his standard he will let go as well. If any player decide to leave the team then it is their choice but i have never seen a situation where a player tries to leave a team when he is not due or the team dont want him anymore.

Most fans dont undertand these things, that Klopp leaving Lierpool doesnt mean the downfall of the team. They do not expect him to stay with the team for the rest of his life. Changes must come and the changes starts now. Who knows this knew coach is going do wonders for the team.

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June 15, 2024, 04:04:27 PM
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Things dont work that way guy, just becuase Klopp has left the team doesnt mean some players will have to leave the team immediately. It is the new coach to choose which player he will keep for the season and any playr that does not ift his standard he will let go as well. If any player decide to leave the team then it is their choice but i have never seen a situation where a player tries to leave a team when he is not due or the team dont want him anymore.

Most fans dont undertand these things, that Klopp leaving Lierpool doesnt mean the downfall of the team. They do not expect him to stay with the team for the rest of his life. Changes must come and the changes starts now. Who knows this knew coach is going do wonders for the team.
I didn’t said that if he left, the club will fall. I am saying what I analyzed based on what has been happening to several teams. Liverpool is a team that have players that are about to leave since last season, and some of these players didn’t have enough active contract at hand and I am not sure some of them will renew their contracts.
Some of the players will definitely leave the team, and most of them will be important players that the club depend on.
Slot might make it in his first season, but he will face a lot of challenges because he have to employ his strategies to the players with will look new to some of them, and he have to get used to the Premier League style of play.

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June 15, 2024, 04:33:18 PM
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The team will have to suffer the loss for one times because some players that are important to the team will leave as Klopp is also leaving and also some the new coach will have his own tactics that will require the management to sign some players for the coach which clearly show that some players will have to leave in that aspect, and if the players he signed are not from Premier League teams, they will also need to adapt to the Premier League style of play before they can be stable.

I am very sure Liverpool will missed out of the title race next season because it will be a difficult work for Arne Slot the new Liverpool manager because they will also be playing in the Champions League and some local leagues like FA Cup and Carabao Cup.
Things dont work that way guy, just becuase Klopp has left the team doesnt mean some players will have to leave the team immediately. It is the new coach to choose which player he will keep for the season and any playr that does not ift his standard he will let go as well. If any player decide to leave the team then it is their choice but i have never seen a situation where a player tries to leave a team when he is not due or the team dont want him anymore.

Most fans dont undertand these things, that Klopp leaving Lierpool doesnt mean the downfall of the team. They do not expect him to stay with the team for the rest of his life. Changes must come and the changes starts now. Who knows this knew coach is going do wonders for the team.

Nothing is really certain, because of course the new manager will have two chances about the results, whether it will succeed or will also fail in his first season. Because anyway, at least if Arne Slot has a large level of luck then of course Arne Slot will succeed in making Liverpool a strong candidate in the title race. But yes, I'm sure even though Arne Slot didn't manage to make Liverpool a title candidate team, but it looks like Arne Slot is still able to make his best efforts at least for Liverpool to stay in the competition in the top four. But indeed, all possibilities will definitely happen, but because I also consider about the squad that Liverpool has, then I believe Liverpool will still have a good performance next season despite changing managers.

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June 15, 2024, 04:55:09 PM
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Manchester United is said to be after de Ligt this summer. I hope it is true. Because it would be one of the best transfers to strengthen the defense line.

But would Bayern Munich like to let him go that easy? I don't think so.  Sad  He is a really young defender. Even if they think of selling him it would be for quite high amount of money. They bought him for around 70 million euros. I wouldn't expect them to sell without making a solid profit. Instead of spending 70-80 million euros on Jarrad Branthwaite, I believe they should prioritize de Ligt as a target. They really need to secure the line with a reliable defender.

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June 15, 2024, 09:15:17 PM
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Manchester United is said to be after de Ligt this summer. I hope it is true. Because it would be one of the best transfers to strengthen the defense line.

But would Bayern Munich like to let him go that easy? I don't think so.  Sad  He is a really young defender. Even if they think of selling him it would be for quite high amount of money. They bought him for around 70 million euros. I wouldn't expect them to sell without making a solid profit. Instead of spending 70-80 million euros on Jarrad Branthwaite, I believe they should prioritize de Ligt as a target. They really need to secure the line with a reliable defender.
Fans will definitely agree that Man Utd will really recruit de Ligt because he is a very great defender and in fact he is one of the best defenders that Bayern Munich has who can always be relied on in any competition and this can all be seen from Bayern Munich's current performance de Ligt suffered an injury and was absent from the match, Bayern Munich's performance became very bad looking very weak.
When de Ligt returned to appear with Bayern Munich, the performance of Bayern Munich's defense changed to become stronger.

The problem is that it is difficult to bring in de Ligt because he is still very reliable at Bayern Munich even though there is still Joshua Kimmich but de Ligt is one of the complementary defensive forces who always works with Joshua Kimmich and Bayern Munich really understands that losing de Ligt will make Joshua Kimmich less Their performance decreased because these two players often worked together to defend Bayern Munich's defense.
Maybe Man Utd could get this player if they made an offer of more than 70 million and Bayern Munich could consider it again.

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June 16, 2024, 10:04:15 AM
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Manchester United have left a really worrying season behind. Yeah, maybe they won an FA Cup title anyway but their performance in the PL was just horrible.  Sad
Even if they didn't win the FA Cup, Man United won't even be able to enter the Europa League next season. This is really dropped. Meanwhile, in the previous season, Man United had a position at least in the top 3 and entered the UCL in the 2022/2023 season, only they failed and entered the Europa League qualification at that time. To be honest, this season, their procedures are quite horrible and there is a lot of ridicule aimed at them. It's just that they won the FA Cup, at least this is one remedy for their downturn this season.

And in the end, Man United still retained Ten Hag as their main coach. Yes, however, who else can replace Man United's coach besides Ten Hag in the current conditions? Even though his decisions are often quite controversial, in addition, he is quite good at formulating strategies. only, it's actually not that good. Yes, later we will try to see how ten Hags will change various things at the club this season. Because Man United certainly also has certain targets here as to why they are still keeping Ten Hag and why Ten Hag still wants to stay at Man United.
Manchester United has extended Erik Ten Hag's remaining contract for another year. However, the club wants to limit Ten Hag's influence, especially with regard to player transfers. The club seems to want to maximize players from the academy. What we know is that Ten Hag is able to polish Alejandro Garnacho and Kobbie Mainoo. These two young players were mainstays last season and contributed to winning the FA Cup title. After a long evaluation, the club management currently led by Sir Jim Ratcliffe finally decided to continue using Ten Hag next season. This commitment was also shown through the offer to increase the coach's tenure at Old Trafford. There are two crucial things discussed in the new contract negotiations, namely the coach's power over player recruitment and also the structure of Ten Hag's coaching team. Ten Hag will still be given the right to propose player transfers, but his duties are now more focused on handling the squad formed for him. Ten Hag has been a coach for two seasons, with an up and down performance graph. However, he succeeded in contributing one trophy each in each season. After winning the 2023 Carabao Cup, he won the 2024 FA Cup.
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June 16, 2024, 11:42:51 AM
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Manchester United is said to be after de Ligt this summer. I hope it is true. Because it would be one of the best transfers to strengthen the defense line.

But would Bayern Munich like to let him go that easy? I don't think so.  Sad  He is a really young defender. Even if they think of selling him it would be for quite high amount of money. They bought him for around 70 million euros. I wouldn't expect them to sell without making a solid profit. Instead of spending 70-80 million euros on Jarrad Branthwaite, I believe they should prioritize de Ligt as a target. They really need to secure the line with a reliable defender.

I don't if he would be a good defender for Manchester United without injuries, which has mostly affected his game since leaving Ajax for Juventus. I know this move for this player has to do with Erik Ten Hag, this is one of the defenders that partnered with Lisandro Martinez season after season.

Yeah, Vincent Kompany already has plans of bringing in Jonathan Tah from Bayern Leverkusen to Bayern Munich. They'll have sell a defender to accommodate another defender.
We will definitely see how it moves with the next few weeks. Right now, He us currency focused on the Euros. Manchester United should make sure they don't miss out on the yougin from Everton.

I don't know what might be the issue, but the player seems to be excited about the switch to Manchester United. They should make it happen if the fee for the lad has to be paid but by bit.

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June 18, 2024, 03:43:42 PM
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It looks like Manchester United wants to develop players from the academy to build a great squad for the future. I haven't heard about such restrictions from other coaches but I think this means the club board is not targeting Manchester United to win the EPL or UC next season. They want Ten Hag to be able to develop players from the academy and shape them into great players in the future. To be honest, Ten Hag is quite good at making strategies, that's why he managed to give the club the FA Cup trophy.

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June 18, 2024, 04:09:20 PM
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Expectations from United are always higher than ours but they cannot perform as much as we expect them to. We haven't seen Manchester United perform as well as Aston Villa last season. Manchester United did well last season due to which they qualified for the Champions League tournament in the last season but just finished the English Premier League this season Manchester United's performance was very poor. Due to this poor performance, Manchester United did not qualify for the Champions League and they also finished in a very poor position in the English Premier League. Manchester United have faith in their current manager so hopefully this team will perform well again next season.
The only achievement that Manchester United can be proud of this season is winning the FA Cup, apart from that there is no achievement that can make Ten Hag a coach who can help Manchester United out of difficulties. Manchester United performance throughout this season has been very unstable, their defense is very fragile and their front line is also very dull.

Finishing in 8th position was never expected by the Manchester United board of directors, they wanted something better from this team. Ten Hag position is increasingly insecure after leading Manchester United to qualify for the Champions League. Next season there will be greater demands than those imposed this season. If he fails to meet the expectations of the club's board of directors, perhaps his position will be replaced by another coach.

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