⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Velvet78]

In today's friendly match Manchester United was defeated by Arsenal, it seems that Man United's performance is still the same as last season, they have not been able to perform better than the top clubs in the Premier League (Arsenal and Manchester City) I think Man United will still have difficulty competing in the top 3 EPL if their performance does not improve. Even though I thought Man United could win the match after Rasmus Hojlund scored a quick goal in the first 10 minutes and they could add more goals in the remaining minutes, it turned out that was the only goal scored.



I see the line-up of both clubs are their mainstay players so I think they take this match quite seriously to see how well they are prepared so far.

Source : arsenal vs man utd https://g.co/kgs/s5CW1kt

Oh, how did I miss this game?    It is like a nice preparation for the new season in the Premier League. There weren't exactly all of their main players as it seems. Some not well-known players also were starters. I see Leny Yoro also played which is nice. I'm quite curious about how long it will take him to be a part of the starting lineup during regular season.

Considering the current CBs in the squad, I feel like seeing Yoro as a starter even at the beginning of the season wouldn't be surprising.    Probably a duo like Yoro - Martinez would be seen. But it depends on whether they will sign another solid CB like de Ligt too though.

[Woodie]

In today's friendly match Manchester United was defeated by Arsenal, it seems that Man United's performance is still the same as last season, they have not been able to perform better than the top clubs in the Premier League

Come on you can't go with past performances of a team and think they will keep loosing, and besides this was a friendly game and I don't think it will always be like this...trust me Manu will shock alot of people with good performances!

Oh, how did I miss this game?    It is like a nice preparation for the new season in the Premier League. There weren't exactly all of their main players as it seems. Some not well-known players also were starters. I see Leny Yoro also played which is nice. I'm quite curious about how long it will take him to be a part of the starting lineup during regular season.

Exact question am asking myself, how did I miss this game because these fixtures are exciting to watch regardless of this being a friendly match and am certain this would keep us on the edge of our seat!

Talking of Yoro, I would like to see Leny Yoro partner with Martinez and Left back Luke Shaw which should provide a solid back line, but for now am certain they will experiment a little more to find the perfect combination.

[Popkon6]

In today's friendly match Manchester United was defeated by Arsenal, it seems that Man United's performance is still the same as last season, they have not been able to perform better than the top clubs in the Premier League (Arsenal and Manchester City) I think Man United will still have difficulty competing in the top 3 EPL if their performance does not improve.



Source : arsenal vs man utd https://g.co/kgs/s5CW1kt

Arsenal team and Manchester team is the most competitive game between these two teams, although it is a friendly match but losing this match shows very bad signs and failures. Although Manchester United scored in the beginning of this match, no more goals were seen later. But the Arsenal team did not give up and continued to attack after attack. Although this match was filled with enough competition, Manchester United had a chance to score in the last minute, but they could not succeed.

Arsenal team has stronger squad of players than Manchester United team, because Arsenal team wins earlier this season. Performed very well in this friendly match especially their coach is more experienced.

[naira]

In today's friendly match Manchester United was defeated by Arsenal, it seems that Man United's performance is still the same as last season, they have not been able to perform better than the top clubs in the Premier League

Come on you can't go with past performances of a team and think they will keep loosing, and besides this was a friendly game and I don't think it will always be like this...trust me Manu will shock alot of people with good performances!

Friendly matches do not need to be taken seriously, the final result is just a bonus. Because what every coach is looking for in a friendly match is an experiment with his strategy. Whether it is effective or not is natural because it is still in the trial stage and will continue to be developed in the future. I am not interested in watching friendly matches because I do not expect too much. Although on paper Arsenal is still above Manchester United, it does not mean that when the League starts we will judge the same result. The EPL is the most unpredictable match, sometimes you can be surprised by a top team losing to a lower team. This is what makes the EPL interesting where stability cannot always be shown in every match.

Manchester United must work harder, fight, and evaluate. Player purchases in the transfer market have been made several times so the final results cannot be seen yet. Let's just wait if after the Premier League starts next season.

[mammusu]

In today's friendly match Manchester United was defeated by Arsenal, it seems that Man United's performance is still the same as last season, they have not been able to perform better than the top clubs in the Premier League (Arsenal and Manchester City) I think Man United will still have difficulty competing in the top 3 EPL if their performance does not improve. Even though I thought Man United could win the match after Rasmus Hojlund scored a quick goal in the first 10 minutes and they could add more goals in the remaining minutes, it turned out that was the only goal scored.

I think you can't make a conclusion too quickly while this is just a friendly match not a real match.
The new season has not started and the club coaches will give warm-ups to all the club players and what Man Utd experienced is not something to be ashamed of because even though it was just a match that was not serious in fact Man Utd only lost by a difference of 1 score.
Everyone will say that the match was not interesting because in terms of performance it was not optimal like just trying a new strategy and testing the physicality of the players who had rested for a while to relax their leg muscles before the new season started.

From what I see, these two clubs actually have equal performance and are ready to face the new season that will start soon.

The friendly match cannot be a reference for us to see the performance and strength of the two teams for the official match next season, but I think in the Manchester United vs Arsenal match, we can at least see and assess the strengths and weaknesses of the two teams because most of the players those who played in that match were actually the main squad players from both teams, I saw that in that match several Arsenal players actually performed quite well even though it looked like they didn't give 100% of their abilities in that match, but not  with Manchester United who started the match well, however, it looked like they were starting to weaken when the score became 1-1, apart from Hojlund who played well in that match, I saw that the other Manchester United players were quite bad in that match and had poor passing accuracy and poor communication between players, ten Hag still seems must to increase their team current performance and in particular he must emphasize and create good chemistry between players in order to have a solid squad next season.

[Marykeller]

Manchester United have always been a very big team, right now they have a very good team, I think they have enough material to be champions, even if they don't find more players I think they're doing great

I don’t really understand you, do you really mean Manchester United have a very good team right now? I don’t really think so, because if they have a very good team, then they won’t have ended last season in the position in which they ended it. I am sure it would have been in a better position. and I don’t thing with the players that Manchester United are having currently, they are going to perform well next season.
 
If Manchester City wants to perform well next season, then there are some things that are supposed to be done. If Manchester maintains their last season squad, then they are still going to disappoint most of their fans because they won’t be able to achieve anything serious by next season. Ten Hag really has lots to work on.

Without being told, Ten Hag has a lot to work on this time. I don't see Manchester United going far with the current squad. If nothing is still not done, sign new players and let the old ones go. Ten Hag will be the one to blame not the players afterwards, if Manchester United didn't appear at the top of the table again. That could even lead to his sack as being an incompetent coach who can get his team players in good playing positions to top the PL table.

I don't know whether Ten Heg needs to be reminded again that, he will be the only one to be held responsible(not the management of the team) if Manchester United doesn't perform well again. However, for Ten Hag to avoid a sack not to happen towards him, he should do the necessary thing by telling the Manchester United management to sign new players and let go of the old ones, if they want the team's performance to be good compared to last season

[Litzki1990]

Manchester United have always been a very big team, right now they have a very good team, I think they have enough material to be champions, even if they don't find more players I think they're doing great

I don’t really understand you, do you really mean Manchester United have a very good team right now? I don’t really think so, because if they have a very good team, then they won’t have ended last season in the position in which they ended it. I am sure it would have been in a better position. and I don’t thing with the players that Manchester United are having currently, they are going to perform well next season.
 
If Manchester City wants to perform well next season, then there are some things that are supposed to be done. If Manchester maintains their last season squad, then they are still going to disappoint most of their fans because they won’t be able to achieve anything serious by next season. Ten Hag really has lots to work on.

What I always say is that Manchester United is a very old club and this club has a lot of tradition but in terms of performance this club is not in a good position at all. Their performance may have been a bit better in the previous seasons but in the latest season they have performed very poorly which is why they failed to qualify for the Champions League next season. There were rumors of a change in the manager of the team but the management is keeping faith with their old manager and do not see any significant changes in the team so the next season is expected to be the same performance.

At the end of the next season, if Manchester United's point table position is behind number four to number five, then we will reduce the discussion about this team from the next season.

Now it's just a matter of how they perform in the Premier League next season.

[AirtelBuzz]

What I always say is that Manchester United is a very old club and this club has a lot of tradition but in terms of performance this club is not in a good position at all.

Yes it is true that Manchester United is a very old club even they have a lot of tradition. During the game tradition and old clubs have to play well on the field to win the match. We enjoyed a friendly match between Arsenal and Manchester United where Arsenal players performed best. If we take a complete overview of this match, we can see that Arsenal progressed in ball positions and passing the ball perhaps proving that they worked hard today even got their hard work rewarded. However, in today's match, Manchester United scored first and then they started playing sloppy football and Arsenal players took advantage of that opportunity to score two goals in Manchester United's net to bring their team to the brink of victory.

Scored a Goal for Manchester United team
R. Hojlund

Scored goal for Arsenal.
Jesus and Martinelli

[abhiseshakana]

I don’t really understand you, do you really mean Manchester United have a very good team right now? I don’t really think so, because if they have a very good team, then they won’t have ended last season in the position in which they ended it. I am sure it would have been in a better position. and I don’t thing with the players that Manchester United are having currently, they are going to perform well next season.
 
If Manchester City wants to perform well next season, then there are some things that are supposed to be done. If Manchester maintains their last season squad, then they are still going to disappoint most of their fans because they won’t be able to achieve anything serious by next season. Ten Hag really has lots to work on.

You speak as if you understand Man United but what you say is just nonsense. Didn't you see that Man United is very active in the transfer window right now? they did it like that because Man United wants change and you can be sure they will face next season with all the changes. Even now, Man United is still working on their plans, and in the near time, it is very likely that they will soon get a new defensive midfielder and right-back.

[Despairo]

Columbus Crew 4 - 1 Aston Villa
Vissel Kobe 2 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 1 - 4 Celtic
Hull City 0 - 2 Newcastle United
Arsenal 2 - 1 Manchester United
Liverpool 1 - 0 Real Betis
Manchester City 2 - 3 AC Milan

Have you notice the pattern? the strong teams are losing in friendly match!

It means Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester United, and Manchester City are strong teams in this season because they're lose.

While Tottenham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool are weak, so don't be surprised if we wouldn't see Arsenal and Liverpool in top 2 and 3 positions.

[emrecemsan]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

[Iranus]

I don’t really understand you, do you really mean Manchester United have a very good team right now? I don’t really think so, because if they have a very good team, then they won’t have ended last season in the position in which they ended it. I am sure it would have been in a better position. and I don’t thing with the players that Manchester United are having currently, they are going to perform well next season.
 
If Manchester City wants to perform well next season, then there are some things that are supposed to be done. If Manchester maintains their last season squad, then they are still going to disappoint most of their fans because they won’t be able to achieve anything serious by next season. Ten Hag really has lots to work on.

You speak as if you understand Man United but what you say is just nonsense. Didn't you see that Man United is very active in the transfer window right now? they did it like that because Man United wants change and you can be sure they will face next season with all the changes. Even now, Man United is still working on their plans, and in the near time, it is very likely that they will soon get a new defensive midfielder and right-back.

Manchester United has a decent team. I don’t know if I can call it a very good one or not. Because calling the current Manchester United squad very good one is probably not right. let’s compare them with actually those teams who have very good squads. Let’s compare them to Manchester City, or Real Madrid. I don’t think they have a squad anywhere near those two teams. And those two teams are probably the best right now. The current Red Devils squad is decent. But expecting from Erik Ten Hag to win the English premier league title with this squad is probably not going to be a wise thing to do. Because they are probably not going to be able to perform well enough against squad like Arsenal, Manchester City and others who are consistently in the title race.

I have a feeling that the next season for Red Devils is also not going to be satisfying for the fans, yes they are very active on transfer window let's see how much ETH can do upcoming  season.

[Oluwa-btc]

Columbus Crew 4 - 1 Aston Villa
Vissel Kobe 2 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 1 - 4 Celtic
Hull City 0 - 2 Newcastle United
Arsenal 2 - 1 Manchester United
Liverpool 1 - 0 Real Betis
Manchester City 2 - 3 AC Milan

Have you notice the pattern? the strong teams are losing in friendly match!

It means Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester United, and Manchester City are strong teams in this season because they're lose.

While Tottenham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool are weak, so don't be surprised if we wouldn't see Arsenal and Liverpool in top 2 and 3 positions.

What are you saying? Lol! Arsenal is weak? They was obviously the better side earlier this morning, I don't know if you saw the game but they don't look weak but still, good enough and opened for more improvement within themselves ahead of a new season. They remain my favorite to win the Premier League Competition this season.

For the game between Chelsea and Celtic, I feel like the things obviously seen in that game has got to be both the selection and finally the  defenders, they committed a whole lotta blunders, go take a proper look at Fofana,you'd regret why they brought him in for such figures. No regrets now, cool it's just a friendly.

Arsenal deserves the win you see, and they have earned it themselves. They was the better side in between. Manchester City has lost both pre-season games, I'm yet to see sky sports and the media dragging them. These people are disgusting. I wonder and ponder why the so much hate on Man United.

[asriloni]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

It's a setback for Chelsea. They had beaten Wrexham 5-0 last season, but Chelsea drew against them now. A big setback for Chelsea. I know the decision to replace Pochettino with Maresca is very bad. It's still just a pre-season game. But this seems like a bad scoreline no matter what. Also, Chelsea owners Todd Boehly and Beghdad Eghbali bet too much on Maresca.
I'm really nervous about how Maresca managing Chelsea in the Prem. If he doesn't change his tactics, Chelsea will have a terrible season.And again, Maresca can't keep playing without a talented squad.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

To be honest, Chelsea's pre-season under Maresca is worse than under Pochettino. I think Chelsea is now at a very low point compared to when Pochettino managed them. Maresca's unbalanced squad will be a disaster. Boehly must tell Lampard to be ready as Chelsea's interim manager. I expect Lampard to replace Maresca in the middle of the season.
Cole Palmer has a lot of hard carrying to do this season. His club has been consistently horrendous. Palmer probabl chelsea's hope, and that's pretty much the same like last season.

[hahay]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

Losing in friendly matches is not a big problem because after all, it would be dangerous if Enzo Maresca forced his players to play optimally because this would also be dangerous for injury. Therefore, I don't think it's a problem about Chelsea not getting good results in friendly matches because after all, friendly matches are just to get players or teams back to fitness.

Because for me, friendly matches are not about winning results, because with friendly matches at least the coach will have his own assessment for each player in his squad. Therefore, instead of aiming for victory just in friendly matches that have risks about injury, then I think it is enough to play appropriately and not to overpower.

[Palakka]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

Losing in friendly matches is not a big problem because after all, it would be dangerous if Enzo Maresca forced his players to play optimally because this would also be dangerous for injury. Therefore, I don't think it's a problem about Chelsea not getting good results in friendly matches because after all, friendly matches are just to get players or teams back to fitness.

Because for me, friendly matches are not about winning results, because with friendly matches at least the coach will have his own assessment for each player in his squad. Therefore, instead of aiming for victory just in friendly matches that have risks about injury, then I think it is enough to play appropriately and not to overpower.

The friendly match is actually a match intended to see the fitness and performance of the players and is also an opportunity for the coach to experiment with the strategy and framework of the main team he has formed, but in chelsea case I don't know whether we should judge the two negative results achieved by Chelsea as fair or bad result in their get current friendly match, because if we look at the negative results obtained by Manchester United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal in friendly matches, it is very natural because some of the players they have fielded are young players and reserves, but if we look at Chelsea next season it will be relying on young players, isn't there a worry that the negative results obtained now not difference with their performance next season?
Honestly, If looking at the young squad that Chelsea currently has, I hope that their will be able to develop well to be able to compete in the English league, but for next season it looks like we will not see Chelsea best performance yet.

[Franctoshi]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Because there isn't a long time period left for the season to start officially. Pochettino was sacked for no reason and now they have to experience the same process again. Enzo Maresca will need to adapt to the team to make things better. The worst case scenario would be his not being able to meet the expectations at all. In that case, I presume that Boehly would regret sacking Pochettino while things were getting better actually.

Losing in friendly matches is not a big problem because after all, it would be dangerous if Enzo Maresca forced his players to play optimally because this would also be dangerous for injury. Therefore, I don't think it's a problem about Chelsea not getting good results in friendly matches because after all, friendly matches are just to get players or teams back to fitness.

Because for me, friendly matches are not about winning results, because with friendly matches at least the coach will have his own assessment for each player in his squad. Therefore, instead of aiming for victory just in friendly matches that have risks about injury, then I think it is enough to play appropriately and not to overpower.

The friendly match is actually a match intended to see the fitness and performance of the players and is also an opportunity for the coach to experiment with the strategy and framework of the main team he has formed, but in chelsea case I don't know whether we should judge the two negative results achieved by Chelsea as fair or bad result in their get current friendly match, because if we look at the negative results obtained by Manchester United, City, Liverpool and Arsenal in friendly matches,

it is very natural because some of the players they have fielded are young players and reserves, but if we look at Chelsea next season it will be relying on young players, isn't there a worry that the negative results obtained now not difference with their performance next season?
Honestly, If looking at the young squad that Chelsea currently has, I hope that their will be able to develop well to be able to compete in the English league, but for next season it looks like we will not see Chelsea best performance yet.

You are correct about your perspective on the current Chelsea's team performance come this season base on the increasing number of young players in their right now, and secondly, from the perspective of a new manager in place, they're going to find it a bit of difficulty to get to do better this season, reason being that the new manager Enzo Maresca needs to study and get to understand his players and formation that best suits this current Chelsea's squad.

[Josefjix]

I'm afraid Chelsea couldn't start the friendly matches well.    First a draw against Wrexham and now a huge defeat by Celtic, 4-1.  Maresca is new around here of course but hopefully he manages to find the right system for the team soon.

Defeats and losing points is definitely not the direction of any elite club and watching the Blues easily getting thrashed by other oppositions, it's bad news. The EPL 2024/2025 is around the corner and this is crucially not the time to start losing irrelevant games, we need a formidable clubs that's balance and confident of games victory. Chelsea continuous defeats in the pre-season, definitely not balance for the club. Perhaps the new manager, Enzo Maresca have big plans for the club.

[Egii Nna]

Columbus Crew 4 - 1 Aston Villa
Vissel Kobe 2 - 3 Tottenham Hotspur
Chelsea 1 - 4 Celtic
Hull City 0 - 2 Newcastle United
Arsenal 2 - 1 Manchester United
Liverpool 1 - 0 Real Betis
Manchester City 2 - 3 AC Milan

Have you notice the pattern? the strong teams are losing in friendly match!

It means Aston Villa, Chelsea, Manchester United, and Manchester City are strong teams in this season because they're lose.

While Tottenham, Newcastle, Arsenal and Liverpool are weak, so don't be surprised if we wouldn't see Arsenal and Liverpool in top 2 and 3 positions.

I will say this is funny. This is just a friendly match. As we all know, many strong teams tend to play without putting in more effort. I think that is why the results came this way, but your saying that Liverpool and Arsenal will not be strong this season will not be accepted by me, although the future will tell, so let not overemphasise because we see those strong teams losing at first. A lot of this might happen along the way, so let focus and stop thinking about anything else and wait for the main game to start so that we can see those teams that will be strong and ready to display their talents. 

[Amphenomenon]

Without being told, Ten Hag has a lot to work on this time. I don't see Manchester United going far with the current squad. If nothing is still not done, sign new players and let the old ones go. Ten Hag will be the one to blame not the players afterwards, if Manchester United didn't appear at the top of the table again. That could even lead to his sack as being an incompetent coach who can get his team players in good playing positions to top the PL table.

I don't know whether Ten Heg needs to be reminded again that, he will be the only one to be held responsible(not the management of the team) if Manchester United doesn't perform well again. However, for Ten Hag to avoid a sack not to happen towards him, he should do the necessary thing by telling the Manchester United management to sign new players and let go of the old ones, if they want the team's performance to be good compared to last season

Good thing that he is facing this issues now, I think Manchester United will still be much more active this transfer windows especially from the fact that Rasmund and Yoro who they just recently signed where injured in the friendly match against Arsenal, with Yoro injured and Martinez past injuries record it is obvious they will have to sign more Cb while they already going for another Rb since Aron Wan Bissaka is open for sale.

I think Ten Hag will be spending much still to improve his squad though it will be quite Ironic if he fail to at least get to EPL top 4 or win a better trophy possibly the Europa league.  Though I`m thinking if United won`t consider getting a competitor for Onana as main goalie.