⚽ Premier League 2024/2025 Discussion Thread ⚽

[Mr.right85]

Chelsea again throwing money buying players here and there but if they are actually serious and building up the youngsters there, primier league could be seeing prime Chelsea in next few years.

It's unlikely to happen. Chelsea bought lots of players because they are gonna flip them for more money. If you see the club's composition, there are many inexperienced youths there. And it makes me think that if we're not going to see prime Chelsea in the coming years.

The current line-up does not show we care about the title race.  But we care about buying a young talent, developing him well, then selling him. And that's straight with Boehly's vision that sees football as a business.

Todd Boehly is a business minded man. He’s seeing players as commodities and investing largely on them. But the rate at which the club is signing players and giving them a long contract  is becoming scary at this point.

What happens when you have these so many kids on 100,000/weekly wages who cannot justify their value because they can’t get enough playing time or because they simply aren’t good enough even when they play, and they have 5/6/7 years left on their contracts?

I don’t know what Boehly is up to but so far his actions has been beyond footballing reasons. I think they’re exploiting some transfer loopholes. And the fact that they are selling their players at the same time for good prices gives him more zeal to invest more.

I read somewhere that the whole amount goes into the accounts for that year, rather than the first payment of a transfer fee, which is mostly amortized.
Chelsea are not looking to challenge for the league title anytime soon, they’re not stable .

[dezoel]

Manchester United's attention to defense has been much needed for a long time, but it is big news that they have signed a defender to their club. They have always relied on their old defenders who have never done anything good for the team. The defender, who they bought from Bayern Munich in December, will surely be a member of their club's starting XI and they will be able to save a lot of their defense with this player. 

Manchester United's midfielders are experienced enough and their performance is good enough so I have no complaints about the midfield. The team that is there now if the manager can plan properly with this team and perform on the field according to the right plan then this team will do well in the Premier League competition again. I don't expect title from this team, I am happy if this team is between one and four position in the points table.

I have said that for like nearly three seasons now, while they were spending 150+ on Hojlund and Antony duo, I said they could have gotten some amazing defenders for that price, like 40 million for 4 players, two centre back and two backs for each side, and they would have finished much better last season as well.

Thankfully they are doing it this season, with this new back from Bayern and this Yoro dude, I am sure that they are going to be doing fine. I am not saying it will show right away, Yoro is even out, I am just saying overall they are looking much better and will get good result at the end of the season as well. This should be something they care about, and if they keep putting their money into defense, the results will come. Because if you have good defense and midfield, you hold the ball and pass well, then the offense only has to find one chance to score that's it, if they get this good defense then they should be fine for a long time.

[mammusu]

Alvarez is a wonderful talent. Manchester City must be sad to lose him. Maybe Haaland has always been the priority. But Alvarez has still been showing impressive performances in every chance he gets. 

I think his void should definitely be filled immediately. They are said to be preparing for a big move to sign Rodrygo. But I don't think Rodrygo is leaving Real Madrid. He is still important for Ancelotti. He is in the starting eleven currently in the UEFA Super Cup game also. The Manchester club needs to make a record-breaking offer to increase their chance. But I'm not sure if they have an intention for such a big move.

Alvarez has been a backup for Haaland and he is able to answer every challenge when trusted to play in Manchester City front line so far, Losing Alvarez will of course create a gap in Manchester City front line next season considering that they only have Haaland who is the only player who plays as CF and ST at the squad, but it is reported that Guardiola is currently no longer looking for another striker as a replacement for Alvarez because he is more dominant want to maximizing the potential of young players to become Haalaand backup next season.

Manchester City current transfer movement is very passive and they have only just brought in 1 player  currently is Savinho, Ancelotti and Madrid have big ambitions in building their squad and they want to see Los Galaticos bounce back at this time, so it might be a bit difficult to see any of their main players being to sell at this time, especially as Rodrygo is one of the young players who have talent and have been quite consistent so far in Madrid attack line, so it seems impossible that they will let Rodrygo go to Manchester City.

[SmartCharpa]

Jose Mourinho, once said that what wins titles for any club is the defense and with proven records, Jose was right. Manchester United has not yet got that solid defence to enable them win the English Premier League title.

Manchester United has dealt with their poor defending by hiring three extra defenders to improve their performances. The defense is not my issue with Manchester United but Onana is. I'm wondering if Ten Hags isn't seeing his mistakes in some games, the season has not even begun, and he has conceded a lot of goals. I saw in the news that he stated that he will take any challenge for Manchester United this season, however, I don't believe Onana will be able to take any risks for the club because he is not the best goalkeeper, Ten Hag should have given Altay Bayindir a chance even in pre-season games that are not important. If Ten Hag relies on him next season, Manchester United will not finish in the top four.

It's unlikely to happen. Chelsea bought lots of players because they are gonna flip them for more money. If you see the club's composition, there are many inexperienced youths there. And it makes me think that if we're not going to see prime Chelsea in the coming years.

The current line-up does not show we care about the title race.  But we care about buying a young talent, developing him well, then selling him. And that's straight with Boehly's vision that sees football as a business.

You are right, it will be difficult to see the best Chelsea in the coming years because the club is not recruiting new players to win trophies or compete with other top clubs for trophies. Chelsea is recruiting players intending to develop them and sell them at higher prices. Todd Boehly, in my opinion, is just here for business purposes, he does not want to win a trophy, Chelsea can't win a trophy with their current players, if they're trying to be like Real Madrid, who has young players and wins a trophy every season, it's impossible because Chelsea has sold their old players believing that they might achieve their goals by selling out their old players with the age of 30 and upwards.

[HajiBagi]

Chelsea again throwing money buying players here and there but if they are actually serious and building up the youngsters there, primier league could be seeing prime Chelsea in next few years.

It's unlikely to happen. Chelsea bought lots of players because they are gonna flip them for more money. If you see the club's composition, there are many inexperienced youths there. And it makes me think that if we're not going to see prime Chelsea in the coming years.

The current line-up does not show we care about the title race.  But we care about buying a young talent, developing him well, then selling him. And that's straight with Boehly's vision that sees football as a business.

All the players Chelsea is are buying is waste of money because next season now Chelsea will sell them if the team doesn’t win any trophy, those players will be sold for the less amount they spent on signing the players, Chelsea is wasting money to sign players and those players performance is not good even in the pre-season match we have seen what they can do this season, I know that we can’t judge them by their preseason performance but Chelsea played their best players in a pre-season game and they still lose many matches.

Chelsea's current players are more than 40 players. Chelsea is still buying players even the ones that will not help the team, I just wish Chelsea would be able to play well and win a trophy this season if not the fans will be mad at the owners of the team because buying many players in the team without no seeing a positive result is like wasting of money to buy players.

[Velvet78]

The new season is underway as of the game tomorrow: Manchester United - Fulham. What are your thoughts on this game? Will the Red Devils start the season with a positive score? 

My personal opinion is that they will win this one way or another. I just can't guess whether it would be a comfortable one. de Ligt and Mazraoui have arrived. The thing I wonder is whether we will see them in the starting lineup directly or not. Mazraoui played in friendlies, he has match fitness. We can see him as a result but I'm not sure about de Ligt. Because he hasn't played in any friendly so far.

I hope they manage to win without conceding a goal. It would be a good motivation. 

[samuraijin]

Chelsea's current players are more than 40 players. Chelsea is still buying players even the ones that will not help the team, I just wish Chelsea would be able to play well and win a trophy this season if not the fans will be mad at the owners of the team because buying many players in the team without no seeing a positive result is like wasting of money to buy players.

Mixing players with poor management conditions has indeed made it difficult for Chelsea in recent seasons, it is no wonder that Chelsea has so many players and even seems to be throwing money away, even so Chelsea always tries to shape players to be better in every season at least to have consistency in building the team so that everything is good this season, at least Chelsea must have a good target this season to be able to compete with other top teams.

[Helena Yu]

Mixing players with poor management conditions has indeed made it difficult for Chelsea in recent seasons, it is no wonder that Chelsea has so many players and even seems to be throwing money away, even so Chelsea always tries to shape players to be better in every season at least to have consistency in building the team so that everything is good this season, at least Chelsea must have a good target this season to be able to compete with other top teams.

It's the same problem like in Manchester United, they have poor management and they still not want to reshuffle their management to become better team. They will always stuck in this circle, they will not able to become a champion and at the same time they will not be relegated.

I predict Chelsea will finish below 7 positions.

[Iranus]

It's unlikely to happen. Chelsea bought lots of players because they are gonna flip them for more money. If you see the club's composition, there are many inexperienced youths there. And it makes me think that if we're not going to see prime Chelsea in the coming years.

The current line-up does not show we care about the title race.  But we care about buying a young talent, developing him well, then selling him. And that's straight with Boehly's vision that sees football as a business.

Todd Boehly is a business minded man. He’s seeing players as commodities and investing largely on them. But the rate at which the club is signing players and giving them a long contract  is becoming scary at this point.
What happens when you have these so many kids on 100,000/weekly wages who cannot justify their value because they can’t get enough playing time or because they simply aren’t good enough even when they play, and they have 5/6/7 years left on their contracts?

I don’t know what Boehly is up to but so far his actions has been beyond footballing reasons. I think they’re exploiting some transfer loopholes. And the fact that they are selling their players at the same time for good prices gives him more zeal to invest more.

I read somewhere that the whole amount goes into the accounts for that year, rather than the first payment of a transfer fee, which is mostly amortized.
Chelsea are not looking to challenge for the league title anytime soon, they’re not stable .

Chelsea are doing a lot of things at the same time, management wise. They are buying players, selling players, renewing contracts, so on and so forth. They have also changed their manager for no reason. All in all, they look lost.

With the amount of players they have, I am curious to find out how Enzo Maresca manages to do his job. How will they even form a matchday squad? Insane things. But they are finding young talents with a high ceiling, whom they can sell later on when they get the right price. Probably how they are selling Gallagher now. Maybe that's what Boehly wants, and not trophies? He is a proper businessman and came here looking for good business. If he loses interest after a few seasons, he may sell the club and look for better businesses. We don't know any of that.

Chelsea may succeed in getting Top 4, or reclaim their Big 6 name. But it will be difficult. Apart from City, Arsenal, and Liverpool, 5 big clubs are fighting for 2 CL spots now. And mid-table clubs are doing great too. Tough times inbound for Chelsea.

[Marvelockg]

The new season is underway as of the game tomorrow: Manchester United - Fulham. What are your thoughts on this game? Will the Red Devils start the season with a positive score? 

it certainly would have been a smooth win for the red devils but after seeing a Mixed results in pre-season - which featured three defeats from five matches, including a 3-0 loss to Liverpool in the USA, it certainly begs the question wether Manchester United is ready to start the season on a good note. They tend to be more disorganized midway into the season and after experience one of thier worse season in Thier last outing, it's certain that fans are hoping they stand top of the table from the first match again Fulham.

From a look at thier past head to head matches, out of the  36 matches played, they've only managed to win 4 while Manchester United won all the remaining 32. It's a buster for the red devils and they will certainly come into the game as the big player but if they allow those carelessness that disturbed them during last season to come with them into this current season, it's going to be desaster for them right from the start.

[emrecemsan]

The new season is underway as of the game tomorrow: Manchester United - Fulham. What are your thoughts on this game? Will the Red Devils start the season with a positive score? 

My personal opinion is that they will win this one way or another. I just can't guess whether it would be a comfortable one. de Ligt and Mazraoui have arrived. The thing I wonder is whether we will see them in the starting lineup directly or not. Mazraoui played in friendlies, he has match fitness. We can see him as a result but I'm not sure about de Ligt. Because he hasn't played in any friendly so far.

I hope they manage to win without conceding a goal. It would be a good motivation. 

My expectation is a Manchester United victory. Erik ten Hag has been making good transfer moves. Especially with the most recent transfers to the defense area, I believe we will watch a much more different team this season. 

You know that defending was their biggest problem in the previous season. They conceded too many goals that they had to make changes in the squad. It is nice to see them taking it serious. This is probably Erik ten Hag's last chance so he had better do his best for success. By saying success I actually mean like to qualify for the Champions League. That would be a good start, right?  I don't think they would be in the title race yet.

[Palakka]

Mixing players with poor management conditions has indeed made it difficult for Chelsea in recent seasons, it is no wonder that Chelsea has so many players and even seems to be throwing money away, even so Chelsea always tries to shape players to be better in every season at least to have consistency in building the team so that everything is good this season, at least Chelsea must have a good target this season to be able to compete with other top teams.

It's the same problem like in Manchester United, they have poor management and they still not want to reshuffle their management to become better team. They will always stuck in this circle, they will not able to become a champion and at the same time they will not be relegated.

I predict Chelsea will finish below 7 positions.

Chelsea is the most aggressive team currently in the transfer market, but if we look at their performance in pre-season matches, it is clear that there has been no improvement in their current performance and game, last season Chelsea was quite slow in the league and this make they had to end the season outside the big four, So what happened last season should be a lesson for Enzo Maresca to start the season better next season, the competition next season will definitely increase considering that many clubs have currently optimized their squads and Chelsea must be able to try better than what they did from other teams, to be honest, although currently Chelsea has completely overhauled the squad they have,  but for some reason I doubt that they will be able to get a place in the top 4 zone next season.

Manchester United also experienced a fate that was no different from Chelsea last season and they are also starting to improve the quality of the squad they currently have, although it is not as extravagant as Chelsea, but we can also say that the recruitment of Leny yoro at a high price was very reckless.

[Oluwa-btc]

Alvarez is a wonderful talent. Manchester City must be sad to lose him. Maybe Haaland has always been the priority. But Alvarez has still been showing impressive performances in every chance he gets. 

I think his void should definitely be filled immediately. They are said to be preparing for a big move to sign Rodrygo. But I don't think Rodrygo is leaving Real Madrid. He is still important for Ancelotti. He is in the starting eleven currently in the UEFA Super Cup game also. The Manchester club needs to make a record-breaking offer to increase their chance. But I'm not sure if they have an intention for such a big move.

Above is the list of trophies and silverwares Julian Alvarez has already at the current statiof his career and it's super amazing. They'll definitely miss his services but then, he made he demands clear that he wants to play more game having won all. I'm sure they'll be fighting for La Liga this season. ( Atletico Madrid )

They having Internal discussions honestly about who to bring in or who to not. Rodrygo?!  I don't believe that. Could it be speculations? I honestly do not see such happening.
They Manchester City are currently charged with a whole lot right, let's wait to see if they can win it. Manchester City do not have such plans to make crazy things happen.

[TelolettOm]

Palmer was indeed one of Chelsea's best players last season with his contribution as a midfielder. Because of his love, Chelsea immediately extended his contract for 9 years, valid until 2033. I think yesterday was the longest with Pedro Neto, now Cole Palmer is 9 years. This is Chelsea.

This is so unreal.    It is the longest contract I have ever seen. Chelsea is just doing their best not to lose Palmer to anyone. After having such a season I assume any team would do the same as long as there is financial power.

Yes, Chelsea is a bit unique in that regard. Maybe because it is Chelsea, which is sometimes quite unique in the decisions it makes, both in terms of player purchases and contract extensions. Do they not think about what will happen to the player for the next 9 years? hmmm... exactly, unreal.  

Chelsea is the most aggressive team currently in the transfer market, but if we look at their performance in pre-season matches, it is clear that there has been no improvement in their current performance and game,

As you said, Chelsea is very aggressive in this transfer market, spending a lot of money to buy mediacore players, young players, and who knows, what else they are looking for. While they don't want to be too insistent on getting Osimhen who clearly has a good reputation. Again, maybe because of thinking of the overprice.

Do you like this Chelsea lineup?

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