Whats happening with Betnomi?

[ryzaadit]

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They think and hope (Betnomi) come back because of their money on the site.

Not, because of waiting for the development. Even if they are comeback with the biggest, good, highest development do you think people are gonna still to play in their casinos after these? I think not, even myself they're gonna have a problem with liquidity assets because people will withdraw all of their money from the site (small chance they're coming back.

I watched these thread over 2-3 weeks, it's look like not gonna back anymore. In telegram they have over 4K members, not many user is a forum geek playing on betnomi maybe suggested them to created a thread on. Fun-fact they make the group telegram have limited messages by hours.

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I think maybe we are still waiting for some people to report the problem of their money being left on the betnomi site, at this time it hasn't been seen that many users have complained about their money in this forum, I also want to know more about how many victims from this forum community have money there who left behind, it seems it is necessary to start a topic in the investigative board to know about them.

There are quite a number of complaint's if you look around, mostly on Casinoguru and Trustpilot (Focus on the recent one start reviews after going radio silent). Absence of a number of complaints in this forum does not mean the victims were not there.

There is a scam accusation where some has $20K locked up in casino while another use just declined to create a scam accusation based on grounds that it's not worth his time since they have already exit-scammed. So they will not come back according to him.

[ryzaadit]

Fun-fact about these.

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

It's just a clear indicator, they are online watching their group but don't just want to respond (especially for admin/mod).

[Mahdirakib]

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Betnomi team is deleting the messages from their telegram group since so long. I have noticed a good number of complaints in their telegram group since 2nd July, but those were not available when I was trying to check them after a day or two. Even one of their admin messages aren't available where the admin said Betnomi will relaunch with in-house games.



Betnomi's telegram group users are decreasing gradually. And they are trying to clean their reputation on the telegram group, no complain there .

[ryzaadit]

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Yap, sadly no one really knows about the forum.

Offline with a few hours already made customers mad especially on (Casino/Exchange) for a service related to (money). Their reputation is already over, even they can comeback. Most users will try to withdraw all of their money, made the withdraw delay with several reason & will got liquidity problems.

If they are really want to develop the site, they should opened only for (withdraw) interface and only stop the service. Can't imagine, someone losing a lot and have money left on the site (can't even withdraw it/access).

[piebeyb]

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They think and hope (Betnomi) come back because of their money on the site.

Not, because of waiting for the development. Even if they are comeback with the biggest, good, highest development do you think people are gonna still to play in their casinos after these? I think not, even myself they're gonna have a problem with liquidity assets because people will withdraw all of their money from the site (small chance they're coming back.

I watched these thread over 2-3 weeks, it's look like not gonna back anymore. In telegram they have over 4K members, not many user is a forum geek playing on betnomi maybe suggested them to created a thread on. Fun-fact they make the group telegram have limited messages by hours.

Yeah right it seems that even though they are back of course people will withdraw money from the site then leave, because it's hard to believe in a platform site that has disappeared for several weeks without clarity, that's why I think it's time to put a sign and a flag for this problem, because it seems Betnomi not coming back for all its users waiting for them to come back.

Of course it will be in vain because there is really no good intention of them to clarify what actually happened to their business and also what made them stop leaving this business, I can't predict the problem, many say their site was hacked and some are say they went bankrupt and took the user's money away, but it's really sad when a user put big money in the casino and haven't withdrawn it.

Fun-fact about these.

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

It's just a clear indicator, they are online watching their group but don't just want to respond (especially for admin/mod).

I often comment on the group on a scam project, the same thing is I was kicked from the group and they restricted messages there, it seems you are experiencing the same thing, I'm sure and confirmed that they really seem to be running away from this problem

[Docnaster]

Fun-fact about these.

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

It's just a clear indicator, they are online watching their group but don't just want to respond (especially for admin/mod).

I am sorry I didn't understand this, even if it is a nice comment which have recieved merits.
I will like you to clarify this to me so that I can understand. What I understood that you meant cannot happen in the forum
I understood that, if anyone create a flag against betnomi, their account will be banned .
If they write against betnomi, their posts will.be deleted. I know this is not possible in the forum
If Betnomi wants to return, we shouldn't discourage them. Let us allow them to open withdrawal first and people withdraw their money before we talk about reputation.

[ryzaadit]

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I wrote a message on their telegram-group (for the victim, at least created a thread) but the message are getting deleted by the admin. Not even more than 24 hours for the message, basically they have time to delete & banned people's account who are complain to them but don't have time or give clarification for the issue.
What do you mean by "wants & discourage them"? Off-course they should back because money people are stuck in their site & can't withdraw it. We discourage them because they deserve it, and no need to talk about the reputation because what they did already ruin their reputation:
- Closing a site without a warning first
- Not giving customer choice for have time to withdraw their money before make update
- Not giving any information at all
- Stay silence with really a long time
- Deleted message on their community group & banned account, that's mean they have a time to do that but don't have any time for make clarification?

[notblox1]

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

So this is a clear evidence there are moderators or owner in that telegram group.
There is no reasonable explanation why would they delete your message and ban you without any explanation, but I think they want to to make group more dead than it really is.
It is only a matter of time when more people will come to bitcointalk forum and open scam accusation against them.

[Casdinyard]

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

So this is a clear evidence there are moderators or owner in that telegram group.
There is no reasonable explanation why would they delete your message and ban you without any explanation, but I think they want to to make group more dead than it really is.
It is only a matter of time when more people will come to bitcointalk forum and open scam accusation against them.

Well there is a reasonable explanation, and of course there will be moderators in that telegram channel, otherwise that channel would've been a massive cesspool of scams and all that from the get-go. Although this banning and deleting of messages is either damage control to make it seem as though they are still operational and lure in more people/investors that they'd dip out of in the future, or they are outright doing something, but I'm leaning towards the first one cause it's been a whole month now and no matter what you tell me creating a working website shouldn't take that long, and even if it did the least you could do is to remain communicative to your users all throughout the journey so they don't think you're scamming them. Seeing as they never did both it's safe to assume they're trying to one up on the people.

[Ayebabara]

Let's hope they are having some temporary hardship.

Exactly, I would have believed that they are facing some challenges but they would have informed the community so there would be no panic but with their muting respond it is very clear that they are not coming back again and they have gone which is very bad of them because they really invested a lot to broadcast that company in the community and beyond.

I trusted that casino company because it was trusted campaign manager was with them and the participants were good and they were pulling growd so why would they leave the business or is it that they are facing problem with their government and if it is something like that the representative would informwd the community what is happening so everyone would be informed.

[holydarkness]

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If Betnomi wants to return, we shouldn't discourage them. Let us allow them to open withdrawal first and people withdraw their money before we talk about reputation.

If you follow the threads, no one is discouraging them, the forum is encouraging them to return, urging them to solve the issues, where their [in]action itself has spoken for them and their reputation.

[3kpk3]

If Betnomi wants to return, we shouldn't discourage them. Let us allow them to open withdrawal first and people withdraw their money before we talk about reputation.

Which world are you living in? A single mistake is enough to screw hard earned reputation in this scary world which is why Betnomi is done. Do you have any idea how much money some of the victims lost? Think!

If you follow the threads, no one is discouraging them, the forum is encouraging them to return, urging them to solve the issues, where their [in]action itself has spoken for them and their reputation.

The only thing that Betnomi can do now is to release all the funds that they stole and ride off into the sunset.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

Yeah right it seems that even though they are back of course people will withdraw money from the site then leave, because it's hard to believe in a platform site that has disappeared for several weeks without clarity, that's why I think it's time to put a sign and a flag for this problem, because it seems Betnomi not coming back for all its users waiting for them to come back.

That's the problem I think. Even if we give them the benefit of the doubt, if they come back trying to run the site, they'll be drained of customers, and it's almost easier for them to set up a new from scratch as rumour has it they may be doing.

I wrote a message on their telegram-group (for the victim, at least created a thread) but the message are getting deleted by the admin. Not even more than 24 hours for the message, basically they have time to delete & banned people's account who are complain to them but don't have time or give clarification for the issue.

That is a very bad sign. I feel sorry for all of you who have money there.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

If Betnomi wants to return, we shouldn't discourage them. Let us allow them to open withdrawal first and people withdraw their money before we talk about reputation.

Which world are you living in? A single mistake is enough to screw hard earned reputation in this scary world which is why Betnomi is done. Do you have any idea how much money some of the victims lost? Think!

If you follow the threads, no one is discouraging them, the forum is encouraging them to return, urging them to solve the issues, where their [in]action itself has spoken for them and their reputation.

The only thing that Betnomi can do now is to release all the funds that they stole and ride off into the sunset.

Well, in as much as i believe and agree with you that we live in a world where a single and simple mistake is enough to ruin the reputation of a person or organization, and that once reputation is gone, it is very hard to rebuild, but then, i still believe that we live in a world of second chances, yeah, some of us have made mistakes in the past and were given the liberty of a second chance, we amended our ways, corrected our wrongs and today, we are doing very well..

If Betnomi somehow realizes their mistakes and decide to they are coming back to amend and put everything is the perspective that is good, then for the sake of those who they are owing money, i think we should give them a second chance, they come pay, people everyone they are owing, continue with their business as before, and even if you are not going to be playing there due to lack of trust, i believe they are those who will still trust them enough to play there, allow those to play and lets see how it goes from there.

But anyways, i don't think this guys are ever coming back, it is unheard of that any company after rugging customers returned under the same title or name and continued their business.

[Crypt0Gore]

Fun-fact about these.

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

It's just a clear indicator, they are online watching their group but don't just want to respond (especially for admin/mod).

So there are loads of people using Betnomi casino and none know about Bitcointalk forum? There are other ways to deal with these people, but it's going to take a load of work, I am not a victim and I feel sorry for those who fell into this scam.

I am sure that there are many users of Betnomi Casino using Reddit because I have seen a thread open on the platform where some people are talking about the experience at the casino, The reputation is gone and there is no coming back from that, if you have money on this casino I am sorry it's gone, because I don't think they are coming back with the way they are behaving.

[FatFork]

I told them yesterday on telegram group, for the person who is victims or at-least has a balance left on (Betnomi) to create a flag/scam assumption on the bitcointalk. The message is getting deleted, and my account getting banned.

So this is a clear evidence there are moderators or owner in that telegram group.
There is no reasonable explanation why would they delete your message and ban you without any explanation, but I think they want to to make group more dead than it really is.
It is only a matter of time when more people will come to bitcointalk forum and open scam accusation against them.

Yes, I can confirm this because I tried to post a similar message. I asked if there were any members with active balances on Betnomi accounts to step forward and share their cases in the forum. However, my message was deleted almost instantly. This indicates that there are admins and mods who are actively monitoring their Telegram group. Among them, @sorsis (admin), @Betnomoon (mod), @alex_dzen (admin), @betnomi1 (admin), @pedalar (admin), and @RobsBRK (admin) have all displayed recent activity on Telegram. Despite this, none of them have provided any useful information since this issue began.

[Learn Bitcoin]

Yes, I can confirm this because I tried to post a similar message. I asked if there were any members with active balances on Betnomi accounts to step forward and share their cases in the forum. However, my message was deleted almost instantly. This indicates that there are admins and mods who are actively monitoring their Telegram group. Among them, @sorsis (admin), @Betnomoon (mod), @alex_dzen (admin), @betnomi1 (admin), @pedalar (admin), and @RobsBRK (admin) have all displayed recent activity on Telegram. Despite this, none of them have provided any useful information since this issue began.

This is strange! They closed their website and scammed people but actively monitored their group so people could not speak against them. Do they plan to relaunch that platform, or maybe they want to use those members for a different purpose, like affiliate marketing, or forward them to a new platform? I wonder if the admin is paying their moderators to monitor the group.

I don't think anyone would work for free. Or maybe they were promised to get paid later. Or perhaps they are planning to relaunch the platform under a new brand? How long do we have to wait for the result? How long will they monitor the group and keep their reputation untouched?

[yahoo62278]

Despite this, none of them have provided any useful information since this issue began.

The only people who has any knowledge is likely sorsis and possibly robs. The rest probably have no clue and are hoping that if they keep working, they might get paid. They cannot give you information they probably don't have.

Of course i'm just speculating but would make sense. I'm kinda shocked the telegram is still open unless sorsis wasn't the creator. If someone else created the group, he may not be able to delete it.

[Mahdirakib]

However, my message was deleted almost instantly. This indicates that there are admins and mods who are actively monitoring their Telegram group. Among them, ~snip~

I think they have kept a moderator to do the job and promised him to pay something if he/she can keep their reputation good there. I believe that a lot of messages have been deleted by Betnomi team from the telegram group. But they aren't deleting those messages where people are praising for Betnomi and giving positive hopes (screenshot).

~ I'm kinda shocked the telegram is still open unless sorsis wasn't the creator. If someone else created the group, he may not be able to delete it.

The group was created on January 2019, and the first message was from Sorsis which is still available in the group (check it). I believe that Sorsis was the creator of the group. Anyway, Betnomi have a telegram channel too: Betnomi Official.